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Speaker 2: I've got a legend of a guest right now.

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Speaker 3: I've never been on this show before, actually, Woods, which

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Speaker 3: is a shame because you were my big fans. Josh

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Speaker 3: Thomas joins the boys. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Josh, Hey baby, how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Very well?

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Speaker 2: Very very well?

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Speaker 3: How are you? I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 3: your new podcast, How to Be Gay, which is out

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Speaker 3: now on Audible, because I've got a question for you

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Speaker 3: that I did a tediously predictable question. But do you

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Speaker 3: remember the moment that you knew you were gay? Is

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Speaker 3: there a moment? Is there a seminal moment or is.

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Speaker 2: It like a sliding scale sort of a thing.

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Speaker 1: I'd say it's a prosass. It's not like a Pephany moment,

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Speaker 1: I have been like when I was a teenager, I

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Speaker 2: When you're a teenager to like like it's good fun.

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Speaker 1: And then I hooked up with Tom Ballard, who was

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Speaker 2: That was the big thing. But I'm sorry that it's

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Speaker 2: a bit like cute, no, no, no, we love cute.

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Speaker 4: We love cute and adorable. And actually, interestingly, Tom Ballard

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Speaker 4: is one of your guests on your new podcast How

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Speaker 4: to Be Gay? How does that go? Talking you know,

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Speaker 1: The truth is I had him, mom, because I've always

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Speaker 1: and he was out gay and I wasn't out gay, right,

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Speaker 1: So this was like when was this like season one of.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't come out for like a few reasons that

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Speaker 2: But that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: We were both grown ups. We had like a very

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Speaker 3: Nice but a beautiful conclusion to come to. And it

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Speaker 1: So I used to do this joke in my coming

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Speaker 2: But also when I was fourteen, I tried to watermelon.

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Speaker 3: It's just you don't know exactly what that thing is,

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Speaker 1: Sure once reading Cosmo magazine and the silled section.

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Speaker 1: Said that man sometimes jarck off by using a plastic bag.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll leave up there just for now. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna go to a someone come back with more. Josh

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Speaker 3: Thomas right up next to Buddy. We've got Josh Thomas

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Speaker 3: who joins the boys right now. He's got a brand

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Speaker 3: new podcast. It's called How to Be Gay. It is

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Speaker 3: involving talking to to other writers comedians that you know

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Speaker 2: I mean, the dumbest thing I've ever done is tape

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Speaker 1: You're asking the question you're probably gay.

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Speaker 4: History the questions in the answer, isn't it what's my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, means a lot about rooftop tents, and really focused

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Speaker 1: I'm not in the market. I just got obsessed with

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Speaker 4: I thought you wanted to camp on your house or

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Speaker 2: Sound pretty fun?

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Speaker 4: Now I have started something here.

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Speaker 3: Hey, joj I really want to ask you something because

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Speaker 3: obviously you're a stand up comedian, or you've certainly been

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Speaker 1: like I think the company is bad. I think it's offensive.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a bad idea. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: And sometimes I get a bit sick of gay activism

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Speaker 2: Outrage when actually.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 1: Actually that like being gay teaches you is you get

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Speaker 2: And you get really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so old. Yeah, honestly I do that stand up

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Speaker 1: It's just like watching it reminds me of the memes

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Speaker 2: I just think it's so sad. Yeah, to see him

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Speaker 3: He's almost he's almost sort of like tipping into that

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Speaker 2: Time, you've made a lot of money, you.

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Speaker 3: Don't hang out with anyone normal at all. You probably

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Speaker 1: Exactly, someone who got rich and famous and he's never

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Speaker 1: like had to work to reconsider it. But he's never

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Speaker 2: Right, it's just going to.

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Speaker 1: His own arenas and being in his echo Tramer and

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Speaker 4: But speaking of rich and famous lifestyles, Josh, you are

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Speaker 2: I'm single and living in LA's Well, it's shit. It's

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Speaker 2: at Alie.

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Speaker 1: It's not good, you know, like Americans they just like

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Speaker 1: lie to you all the time. They're doing fake compliments

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Speaker 1: or like they're always like braank or like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: everything's just not as like an Alley. Everything's really like fake.

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Speaker 1: And I really miss an Australia that people are like

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Speaker 1: very direct.

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Like if I were to say terrible shirt, Josh,

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Speaker 4: like that's feeling that's feeling good and.

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Speaker 2: It's a good chart. So I don't really know if

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Speaker 2: I know what you mean. Josh, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: You've got a brand new podcast, How to Be Gay.

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Speaker 3: It is out now and audible. If you want to

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Speaker 3: hear more of Josh Thomas, if you want him in

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Speaker 3: your life, more than download it on audible. How to

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Speaker 3: Be Gay. Mate, it's a pleasure to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks coming on the show. Hopefully we get another chance

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Speaker 3: to talk to you again.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: I hope this is really helpful on your journey into

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Speaker 1: working out how to be gay.

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Speaker 4: Hear more of the boys on the full show podcast.

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Speaker 2: You know you want to