WEBVTT - RODGER CORSER - THE FLOOR - CHANNEL NINE 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.680 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.120 TV Reload, the podcast last week Their Life. Hey guys, 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.080 welcome back to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:09.840 and I want to thank you for clicking on my 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.480 podcast today where I go behind the scenes with the 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:16.320 biggest players in Australian television. This week, I'm joined by 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.200 the one and only Roger Corser, a name you would 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:23.279 definitely recognize from say Doctor, Doctor, Underbelly and pretty much 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.400 every major Australian drama that has been made over the 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:30.240 last two decades. He is a powerhouse in scripted television, 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.120 but more recently we have seen him take the leap 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.560 into the world of TV hosting. You might remember him 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.120 as the mysterious front man of The Traders, where let's 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.879 be honest, he was playing more of a character than 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:46.160 just being Roger Corser. But in Channel nine's new primetime 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.640 game show The Floor, we're finally seeing the real Roger 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.680 and it turns out that was a bit of a 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.160 challenge for him. Now, if you're wondering how The Floor works, 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.520 here's the gist. Eighty one contestants stand on a massive 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.040 led grid, each occupying a square representing their area of 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.520 trivial expertise. In each round, a contestant is randomly selected 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.200 to challenge a neighbour's player in the neighbour's specialty. They 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.320 face off in a rapid fire forty five second duel, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.760 answering visually based questions. The winner claims the losers square 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.840 and category, expanding their territory, the ultimate goal being to 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.320 conquer the entire floor and take home a grand prize 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.399 of two hundred thousand dollars. In our chat today, Roger 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.080 opens up about the shift from being an actor to 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.360 a presenter and a very different way audiences seem to 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.280 perceive you. In each of those roles. We'll also get 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.399 the scoop on filming the Floor in Amsterdam, why they 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.920 took so many Australians across the globe, and how the 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.320 hell that even seemed to work logistically. Plus, we will 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.760 hear Roger's thoughts on Roblow, who hosted the US version, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.720 and whether or not he felt the pressure of stepping 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.400 into those very polished shoes. So guys, sit back and 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.080 relax and enjoy as we dive into the wild, wonderful 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.800 and slightly chaotic world of the Floor with Roger Corser. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.040 Benjamin, Hi, mate, how are you very good? 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.720 I'm in my son's room and it's away from the 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.640 school holidays, you see, so there's there's a ruckus downstairs. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.119 So I thought I'd find a corner of the house 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:16.519 that might be a little bit more quiet. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.120 I remember once Hughesy was doing one of these chats 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.240 and he had the kids home from school holidays. But 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.400 he had to run away because there was an incident 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.440 and it turned out one of his kids had put 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:31.360 the toaster in the kitchen underneath like a shelf, which 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.080 had basically set to his kitchen. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:35.640 And he continued to the interview. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.239 He stayed doing the interview because I mean, you've would 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.919 have met Dave hughes over the years. I mean, he's committed. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.040 He will give you the content, you know what I mean. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.880 So he's he's sitting there rabbiting on about I don't 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.720 know what shoul it was. It was Hughesy, we have 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.320 a problem, yeah, rat choe, but yeah he was his house. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.400 Now he burned down, and he let it happen just 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:55.720 to talk. 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.000 I mean, I'd probably say can I call you back? 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.400 That my kids, my kids might be slightly threatened. But 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.560 I'll tell you what. He's committed to promoting a show, 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.239 isn't he? Yeah. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.760 Absolutely, I'm so excited to have this chat with you 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.160 because I am so invested in this show. I watched 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.760 it with my best friend and we became so competitive 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.440 because this show is so interactive, like nothing we've ever 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:22.320 seen before. Talk to me about how this came across 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:22.760 your desk. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.520 I'd actually heard about it coming out through my publicist actually, 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:32.240 and you know, she'd heard about the US version the 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.200 robb Blow hosts, and she actually gave me a heads 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.880 up and said, why didn't you see who's doing it? 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.920 We didn't even know that Nima was doing it, so 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.080 we made I made some inquiries through my agent and 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.400 they asked me questions and we. 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.360 Found out so we actually, I want to say it 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:47.960 wasn't chasing, but it was just like, oh that could 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.960 be interesting because I think after doing you know, doing 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.520 The Traders, and I mean it was nine that first 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.360 got me onto just a feeling today extra, which was 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.720 sort of you know, sort of got me into oh, okay, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:03:59.960 maybe I can do something. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.760 It's different to acting on the Telly. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.040 So so yeah, it's just a bit more open to 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.040 maybe presenting shows. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.080 You know, some of the acting work was getting a 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:10.040 little slower. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.920 And still, I mean, I'm just in a different category 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.960 now that I'm over fifty, so you know that work 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.200 is in, you know, there's not as much of it 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.719 right now for me at the moment, so you just 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.880 sort of open up and look at look a different thing. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.400 So so, yeah, I'd heard about it and I was interested, 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.440 and then you know, they had some other people in mind, 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.040 and then we started chatting and eventually I think I 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.000 went through a couple of meetings and we all sort 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.120 of spoke about what, you know, where the show was sitting, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:37.680 and I kind of liked it. I'm a dad, and 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.880 it's a good you know, it's it's broad in a 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.520 great way. Sometimes people can use the word broad as 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.440 it's too broad. It doesn't sort of hit one genre 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.000 or anything. I think the fact that this is something 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.920 your primary school kids can kick your butt in a category. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.320 Or you can have someone with four degrees, you know, 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.679 university degrees, you know, excel in something, and then someone 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.440 who just throlls their phone, you know, for all. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.280 Their information excel as well. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:09.000 Any any sort of walk of life can find their 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:10.880 category that they're good at. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.920 But sometimes you hear oh, you see a category coming up, 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.200 and you go, oh, I can't wait for eighties movies, 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.960 and you think, yeah, that's what I'm going to be 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.039 really good at. But I found that some of the 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.200 categories that I thought I'd have absolutely no shot whatsoever, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.800 I would beat my best mate, who is the smartest 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.760 person I know. She's a female engineer. I've never been 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.040 smarter in a room with her ever, except some categories 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.200 of the floor. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:36.320 You're welcome, you know what I mean. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.480 I thought we're here to boost people's ego, make them, 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:40.800 you know, walk away from the show and go I 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.440 feel a little better about myself, you know. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.520 But it's great. It's a great leveler. I've said this 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:46.320 before about the show. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.440 We had the periodic table on as one of our categories, 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.800 and people avoided it, like the play was so scared 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.560 of it. And we were saying in production that, well, 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.440 you know, we're not going to be asking really the 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.640 super you know, in depth questions about period of table. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.839 I think, just go and basically learn learn the period 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:04.920 of table, which is finite. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.360 It's finite. It's basically if you could just go in 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.200 in one night or two nights kind of learn eighty 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:10.680 percent of it. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.240 You probably do pretty well as opposed to the person 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.719 who is very science based knowing nothing about pop culture. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.000 And then where do you start with the celebrity. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.160 Couples if you have no prior prior knowledge, I mean, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:24.239 where do you start? 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:24.960 Where do you end? 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.320 Like I think that's a harder thing if you have 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.599 no sort of pop culture references. Where you start is 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.800 harder learn than some of the other ones. And the 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.479 one let's just go and do you know this for dummies? 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.000 You know, you go and pick up the Geography for 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:39.920 Dummies or something like that and go, well, I could 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:41.920 probably do a lot. You do do a lot to 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.320 do it at least help myself, you know, in one 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.080 night with capital cities or something like that, because you're 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:47.640 going to know a. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.880 Few just to sort of top up. Because the X 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.440 factor here is that you. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.520 Could have two people that it isn't there that the 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.600 category has been passed down because you know, someone lost it. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.600 You know it's been passed down, and so you've got 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.280 two people it's not their number one choice. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:08.480 So you're equally got like novices at it. So a 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.560 little bit of study. You know you can you can 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.000 get on, you can get on quite well. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.200 I started screaming about like pick the ones that are 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:15.840 left of center, like do you know what I mean? 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.960 Like pick the ones that are like babies, because they're 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.000 really basic. Like you started off thinking I don't want 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.920 to do babies. I don't even have any children, So 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.800 I was like, I can't do that one. But then 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.040 babies was a category that I could actually do. It 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:28.680 was bizarre. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.720 Yeah, we at the kitchen draw was the one that 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.520 when I saw that, I thought that was absolutely anything. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.800 You know, they just throw absolutely anything in there. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.000 I mean, and the pressure of having to do it 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.160 up there, you know, under all the studio lights, and 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.200 we've got you know, eighty one contestants. 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.440 When we start, We've got a studio audience as well. 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.160 Some people who you know probably spoke, you talked a 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.040 good game, you know. I want to chat to everyone 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.720 on the floor, you know, and not all that made 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.120 that and made it. But I'm to the final cut, 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.720 but I'm having the conversations in between and getting to 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.520 know people, and they certain amounts of that. Some people 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.200 were super confident, super cocky, I mean, perhaps to try 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.480 and throw people off and intimidate other people and did 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:07.120 they get up there? 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.240 And you know, basically think about our game. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.560 If you don't know what passed straight away, you know 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.520 and gone to something else. But people forget that one 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.560 thing and well I'm and r for ten plus seconds 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:18.480 just draining there. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.440 Why it's just doesn't matter how much you know you did. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.600 We've hit the one you know, the one spot, you know, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.880 blind spot in your knowledge of this category. And because 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.520 you're desperate to get the right answer out, you won't 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.160 pass quickly. And then some people let fifteen seconds go 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:35.559 past and then they're shot. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.720 You like, why would you do that to yourself? Did 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.720 you watch the Rob Low version? Because you know what 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.000 I did was that I watched the Roger cors version first, 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.560 and then I went to the Rob Low version, which 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.280 I think will be strange for people to hear. But 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.360 because I wasn't really that, I wasn't as drawn to 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.000 this idea and this concept as much. When I liked 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.080 this Australian version, I needed to go and see the 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.760 Rob Loan version. 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:58.240 Yeah. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.640 Well, I mean, you know, hit the job and I mean, 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.800 I tell you what, he's a very attractive sixty year 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:03.640 old man you got to say. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.559 I mean, I'm tend almost a decade behind him, and. 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.880 Roger, you sound a bit like him. This is going 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.280 to sound strange because he's obviously a really accent, but 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.920 there's times of your intonation of your voice where I'm like, 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.760 that's kind of because Rob Low, you can't help a 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.760 kind of you know, we've been watching him in movies 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.200 for years. I'm forty five, so like he kind of 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.880 has this way of talking. Anyway, I started looking at 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.480 it and being like, I think Roger Corsa is one 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.880 hundred percent the Australian version of Rob Low. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.200 Well, you know, you know, he's had a great career. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.439 I like that half of his career, but thank you, 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:35.920 but he does a great job. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.720 We had we look, we had some We have one 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:40.520 of the same producers on. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.520 The show can come over and help help us out. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.000 Just with the format, it's a pretty fast paced sort 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.840 of show with lots of moving parts and lots of people. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.920 You know, there's a little bit of people wrangling and involved, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:57.000 and the jewels go past pretty quickly and obviously there's 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.240 got to be someone there giving the tick all the 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.680 cross so there's a lot of moving parts going on 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.360 in the production you know, sort of in the with 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.280 the production team, and it was a little bit of 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.199 a learning curve for me to sort of get amongst 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.319 this sort of crazy kind of live you know, shiny. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:15.000 Game show kind of format. But I enjoyed it. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.320 I enjoyed it in the end, and I definitely sort 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.400 of warmed into feeling more comfortable on stage. I sort 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.240 of just you know, by about halfway through is I 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:24.960 started to just really sort of find my feet. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.720 I just love it when they get they can't guess 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.319 the answers that you are the answer. It's always funny 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.000 because I always think, you know, like under Belly, this 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.920 is a promo, so like, forgive me channel nine. I'm 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.120 not giving this away, but I think it's it's on 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.800 TV at the moment. But someone under Belly wrong. Oh my, 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.200 that show is so goddamn iconic. Like one that doesn't 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:48.840 get that show needs to be immediately eliminated because that's. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:51.160 You just dropped your right. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:55.000 You're forty five and fifty two, and you know, I've 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.520 got I've got a twenty two year old daughter and 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.640 a fifteen year old son, and you know, at thirteen 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.040 and down to nine, but you know, for the twenty 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.520 two year old under it was eighteen years ago, there 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:11.440 were four you know, so I mean for anyone between 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.720 maybe twenty and thirty, a big chunk of television viewers 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.880 or you know, people who were watching media in some form, 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.640 it's an whole show. It's like me thinking about you know, 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.880 a nineen sixties cop show that were like homicide or 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:25.520 something like that. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.040 You know that we made so. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.920 Then and there would have been released reruns of that 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.400 on a Telly where I don't know, you know, well, 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.040 I suppose Underbelly is available to stream, but where the 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.040 people are drawn to do that. But for a different 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:39.439 generation like your own, it was big because it was 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.560 an Underbelly was a time where I think we were 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.720 used to watching a lot of overseas shows and someone 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.120 swung back to some Aussie content. I think Underbelly was 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:49.760 a big part of that. 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.599 I know friends that had Underbelly parties during COVID and 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.560 they would watch the first series. Oh wow, it was 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.720 like it had a second coming, like hearing that with 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.880 people were like they were ordering in Italian food like 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:06.720 mobster style, and we're rewatching this show. And the weird 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.480 thing about it was when I heard that. I went 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.440 back to watch it as well, and it still stands 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:12.720 up that show, do you know what I mean? Like 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.720 it's such a bizarre time capsule, and it was like 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.680 lightning in a bottle because it didn't matter how many 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.079 times I tried to remake it. 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.560 Well, I think it was. I mean everything about IP. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.320 You look a look at Hollywood and everyone, you know, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.880 the top of ten grossing films over the last couple 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.040 of years, they're mounted them that. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:29.680 Have you know, pre existing IP. 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.280 They're either a sequel so it's their own IP, or 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.680 it's Barbie, or it's you know, it's based on something 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.880 else where. So true true crime has a version of 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.440 that because you're familiar with the people and the stories 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.280 and the headlines, so the audience you're not sort of 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.839 having to explain, you know, from ground zero, exactly what 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.520 it is. And with Underbelly, in one way, it was 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.440 a detriment for a sequel. We couldn't have a sequel 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.559 all the all the pending court cases, they're all the 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.520 pending court cases, and you couldn't continue the story where 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.360 we'd finished it because it was locked up in court 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.080 and you couldn't influence a jury so you can't you know, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.760 doing a dramatized version or something, you know, and that 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.440 might influence a jury. But the good thing about about 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.080 being in the zeitgeist, especially in Melbourne, I mean especially 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:20.360 in Victoria where these people were front page news so often, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.640 so it became infamous because we got banned. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.040 I don't even remember what we were banned. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.520 My mum is a primary school teacher and she was 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.920 making I shouldn't say this, my mom's going to come 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.960 for me now, I copy. He was making pirated copies 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.600 at school and handing them out to the teachers. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.400 People were driving up to the border, yes Aubury Ordonga, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:39.079 passing it. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.680 Over and passing it over, and like people going up 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.040 and getting their DVD burnt copies. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.560 Which is the irony of someone different black market, you know, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.040 sort of on a bunch of show about gangsters. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:52.200 And your kids. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.440 Would think that he's so bizarre telling them about the 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.840 floppy disk and the hard disk, you know what, they're like, 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.959 Oh my god. Anyway, we're going off on a tangent. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.480 I need to ask you about the rationale as to 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.520 why a show like this, because it would have been 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.320 expensive to fly everyone overseas, so far away? Why are 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.840 you shooting so far away? It certainly wasn't to keep 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.320 it under wraps because most of the cast ended up 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.720 blabbing about being on the show anyway, so we found 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.160 out before time. But why be shooting over? It was Amsterdam, 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:18.600 wasn't it. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.600 Yeah, it's just in my contract. I just I just 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.600 needed it to be in you know good. Yeah. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.240 Now, look, yes, it is expensive for a cast to 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.440 come over, but a lot were sourced from Europe, so 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.800 expats in the UK and the Netherlands and you know, 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.520 adjoining European countries where you know, I suppose it's a 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.240 one hundred and fifty pounds easy jet flight and you 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.440 know it's only we shot it in the weeks weeks 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.280 accommodation and some people were flying from Australia because I 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.120 did want the right mix of people. Yeah, so you know, 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.760 you're going to have probably a lot of twenty and 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:56.800 thirty somethings that are in Europe because it's kind of 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.400 their time when they're traveling. Not all, but like that's 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.240 you know, a good chunk of people you probably find 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.680 that demographic touring and traveling in Europe, and then some 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.120 other people you know, so we could make sure we 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.320 sort of know, ticked the boxes and had people from 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.200 different parts of Australia in rural as well, not just 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.120 see people and you know, all backgrounds and all kind 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.320 of vocations and different categories that were their expertise and age. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:19.760 Groups and everything. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.640 So some people were flown from Australia, but I think 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.920 that was only probably ten to fifteen percent. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:29.280 Actually, okay, well that's because the set is huge. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.760 I mean, the things as big as a basketball court. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.520 That the screen, that the floor they're standing on. You know, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.680 that's not something you're just you know, putting you you know, 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.400 in your ludgage and sent back over to Australia. It's 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.240 a big bit of kit. And it's nine episodes. So look, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.360 if we were a five times a week game show, 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.480 thirty five forty weeks the year, maybe that's worth building 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.520 the studio for for nine episodes. And even we have 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.720 a rope cam which is a bit like a spider cam, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.640 but just on the one access back and forth, like 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.560 just to have the operator like he's just done the 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.760 German version, just done the next second season of the 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.720 Netherlands version, you know, just done some other European versions. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.960 He you know, they were a well oiled machine. So 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.640 we got over there, we had two days tech and 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.840 we're into it. You know, we've obviously done a lot 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.600 of pre production back here in Australia and they had 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.440 a great team doing that, screening all the testants and 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.800 and you know, working at aly categories and everything. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.840 So we hit the ground running. So yes, I'm sure 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.000 it's expensive. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.400 To do it over there, but the amount of time 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.400 we spent there, it was a well oiled machine and 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:29.880 we sort of get in and get out. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.160 It's something about the way in which the production of 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.840 this show shows contestants on a game show that we've 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.640 never seen before. Like I can't even explain this to you, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.120 and I don't know whether or not you and the 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.200 accountless interviews you've done have been able to do it. 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.960 But we get to know these people in a way 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.160 that I don't think has ever been done. Like Deal 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.520 or Nodeal Grant Dania. He might ask them one question, 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.880 but for some reason we are connecting through to these 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.640 personalities and wanting to follow them. We choose, oh, we 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.320 want that person to lose. Like it's a really strange 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.080 concept because we for these people in a way that 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.160 I've never seen on a game show before. Why do 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:04.119 you think that is the case? 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.040 Well, that's the thing about you for and what why 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.240 foremots some work and some don't. And it's a magic source, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.080 isn't it? And I think you know you've got some 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:14.800 great elements put together. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.160 And the things you really like about a game. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.280 Show like Quick Essentially it's an easy to get battle 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.760 when we have our duel, you know, to break it 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.840 down to it, it's visual and it's a one on 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.239 one take turns and basically you can just yell out 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.080 at the screen. And that's why it's so great to 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.080 play at home. Getting to know our contestants, our characters. 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.800 Over nine episodes is a longer run than even a 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.200 the classic carryover champ a thirteenth century or something. Five 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:43.240 nights was at the top there. But we're also getting 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.880