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Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with Jones. The new season of

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Speaker 1: The Crown is about to drop on November ninth. This

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Speaker 1: is season five, and this is the one. This is

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Speaker 1: why it's interesting to wonder how people are feeling about it.

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Speaker 1: This is the one that will cover the nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 1: This was the darkest decades for the royal family in

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Speaker 1: recent memory. And this is the one that many of

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Speaker 1: us at our age have lived through the divorce of

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Speaker 1: Charles and Diana, the affair with Camilla Parker Bowls, Diana's

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Speaker 1: death far at Windsor Castle, or the Annis Horribilis. People

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Speaker 1: are feeling conflicted about this series because it is now

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Speaker 1: entering the timeline of the stuff we know and is

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Speaker 1: it true? Is it made up? How do we feel

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Speaker 1: about this in the light of the queen passing recently.

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Speaker 1: Here's some of the trailer. In light the events of

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Speaker 1: the last twelve months. Perhaps I have more to reflect

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Speaker 1: on than most. The Royal Farmer is in genuine crisis.

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Speaker 2: I have royal channels damaged, the country's reputation. The House

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Speaker 2: of Wincess should be finding the nation together, setting an

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Speaker 2: example of idealized family life. It's a situation that can't

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Speaker 2: help but affect the stability is a country.

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Speaker 1: For years, I've called for a more modern monarchy that

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Speaker 1: reflects the world outside. I don't think it's my behavior

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Speaker 1: that's threatening its survival. You as future king duty people.

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Speaker 2: Won't never understand how it's really been.

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Speaker 1: Sounds great, as she says at the end, I never

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Speaker 1: stood a jam. I got so much catching up to do. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm still when he's getting these lung ripped

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Speaker 1: out in the castle. The first seasons were very historically interesting.

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Speaker 1: That's when I loved it. I've stopped watching since it's

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Speaker 1: moved into stuff that's in my timeline. Judy Dench, she's

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Speaker 1: not in it. Only production ever that she hasn't been in,

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Speaker 1: but she was in it. Now she's in my wedding video,

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Speaker 1: but she's not in this. And she has said the

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Speaker 1: closer the drama comes to our recent times or present times,

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Speaker 1: the more freely it seems willing to blur the lines

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Speaker 1: between historical accuracy and crude sensationalism. So this is the

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Speaker 1: first time ever Netflix has responded to some criticisms of

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Speaker 1: the made up bits and has put the word fictional

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Speaker 1: as a disclaimer on the show. This is the first

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Speaker 1: of the seasons where they've said fictional, but people are saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's a friend who's close to the palace. Has a

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Speaker 1: friend of the queen hasn't been named, has said it's

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Speaker 1: vicious and would have destroyed the queen because of how

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Speaker 1: vicious the dramatized plotlines are. One of her close friends

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Speaker 1: has read watch it. I don't know. There's mixed stories

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Speaker 1: as to whether the royals have ever watched it, because

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Speaker 1: it'll be weird, wouldn't it. It would be weird because

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Speaker 1: some of it would be how do they know that?

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Speaker 1: And some of it would be as if that happened.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to see this stuff? Do you want

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Speaker 1: to see the horror of what we live through? And

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Speaker 1: I'm I wish we were a republic, But I have

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Speaker 1: effect for the Queen and of affection for Harry and William,

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Speaker 1: and I feel bad for them watching the awfulness of

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Speaker 1: their parents' marriage play out. This is an interesting quote.

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Speaker 1: Someone said, what gets me about Dame Judy's crankiness at

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Speaker 1: the Crown is Charles is such a ghastly creature, rampant fornicator,

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Speaker 1: conspicuous adulterer, wanted his mistresses to be a feminine hygiene products.

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Speaker 1: Then should be demanding the queen make stuff up and

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Speaker 1: not tell the truth. The truth was horrific, a rampant fornicator.

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Speaker 1: But we expect more from the royal family. That's been

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Speaker 1: a pr job. They were under surveillance in a way

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Speaker 1: they've never been before, and it showed them not in

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Speaker 1: a great light. Well, I'm happy. I'm happy to see it.

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Speaker 1: I paid to see a dive in act. I want

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Speaker 1: to seize me a dive and act. It's interesting. It

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Speaker 1: makes me uncomfortable. The old historical so the crown has

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Speaker 1: never been boring, It's been historically fascinating. And make stuff up.

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Speaker 2: Don't transport the rock into it or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: you know, just.

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Speaker 1: Stick to he plays the role of the tampon. Actually

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Speaker 1: that'd be dreadful. Camilla has backed out of all the people,

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Speaker 1: not him. A should I put this to the pub tests?

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Speaker 1: As the crown enters into the stuff we know and

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Speaker 1: the Queen's recent passing, how are you feeling about it?

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that for the pub test. We're really

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Speaker 1: getting ahead of ourselves, aren't we Just