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Speaker 1: It has been a couple of weeks since we last

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Speaker 1: we saw the Four Corners report about security operating in

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Speaker 1: the top end make national headlines. Joining me on the

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Speaker 1: line right now is the Lord Mayor of Darwin, convat Scarless.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you. Con.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and I'm absolutely jealous you're out there

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Speaker 3: and I'm stuck in the bloody office.

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Speaker 2: Ah sucks to be you today. Con. You should be

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Speaker 2: here at the very spring staven with us. Mate. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: The crocodile races will get under way a bit later

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Speaker 1: this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: And that's fantastic. That's really really good. I'm glad you

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Speaker 3: did it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is good. It's good.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly a good time out here at the Berry

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Speaker 1: Springs Tavern. Now, Con, I do want to get your

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Speaker 1: reaction to the Four Corners report about a week and

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Speaker 1: a half ago vit Rana about a week ago into

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Speaker 1: security guards across the Northern Territory but specifically in the

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Speaker 1: top end. A lot of the vision as well did

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Speaker 1: show the security operating in our CBJ.

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Speaker 2: What was your reaction.

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Speaker 3: Once again, Four Corners very good at presenting one side

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Speaker 3: of the story and one side only. We heard from

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Speaker 3: a lot of people in Dowwin that actually they were

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Speaker 3: four Corners want to hear, so they were cut off

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Speaker 3: the program. The reality is they came and saw me.

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Speaker 3: They spoke to me about the patrol ofsers. I told

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Speaker 3: them that actually we do have problems in Darwin and

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Speaker 3: this people do a good job. They saw me video

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Speaker 3: telling me how there these people pulling that woman away

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Speaker 3: and in the glass and when I see when I

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Speaker 3: asked them to see the video, the video had no sound,

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Speaker 3: so I couldn't really make an informed decision. But then

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Speaker 3: and push him aside, and one of the patroloss just

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Speaker 3: pull you back. And my point was this people trying

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Speaker 3: the fear with their work. If it was me there

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Speaker 3: would have done exactly the same thing. That did not

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Speaker 3: go into the Four Corners either.

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Speaker 1: So con do you feel as though the security have

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Speaker 1: made a difference, particularly you know in places like the CBD,

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Speaker 1: places like Karama where you have had people report and

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Speaker 1: indeed complain about anti social behavior and various criminal issues.

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Speaker 3: I believe so, I believe they made a difference, and

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Speaker 3: not only in Karama, not only the CBD, but also

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Speaker 3: in Bandilla Bits where we had a localized at all

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Speaker 3: that worked really well, and the people actually they frequent there,

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Speaker 3: or the people they operated the businesses there, they have

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Speaker 3: said that they have made a difference. Yes, they're not perfect.

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Speaker 3: We understand that. One probably sometimes they've done things they

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Speaker 3: should have done, and our be first to criticize them

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Speaker 3: and draw their attention to that. But at the same

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Speaker 3: time we should look at the positive things. Four Corners

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Speaker 3: highlighted every single negative thing that people living down South

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Speaker 3: believe about Darwin. I would like to point out that

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Speaker 3: they're so good pointing out how bad the territory is.

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Speaker 3: But I recall very well a situation where minister from

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Speaker 3: and ask me if I can get them back, So

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Speaker 3: it's good to leave the inner Adelaide of Melbourne complain

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Speaker 3: the reality is.

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Speaker 1: So hang on a say, con So, what you're saying

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Speaker 3: In Adelaide it was a minister of the of the

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Speaker 3: your police and whatever powers you've got to make sure

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will say some of the vision that

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Speaker 1: something that well, firstly, I guess when does the current

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Speaker 3: Has to ry new this year and we're in negotiation

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Speaker 3: this kind of operations if we're not satisfied that they've

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Speaker 3: got beneficial effect on our city. Council will discuss with

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Speaker 3: the government ask certain parameters to be kept the caning

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Speaker 3: force our by laws because they're not authorized officers. But

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Speaker 3: the mere presence of these people in the city it

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Speaker 3: gives an air of confidence to our citizens. And also

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Speaker 3: the tears potential people are the social behavior retentions of

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Speaker 3: doing stupid things. They when you help the camera, you

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Speaker 3: can actually feel whever you like, can cut and paste

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Speaker 3: back in the studio. But the reality is they haven't

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Speaker 3: sold the rubbish they have saw. The domestic violence occures

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Speaker 3: because of alcohol. They keep talking about homeless people. We

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Speaker 3: know our homeless people, our social outreage. The team knows

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Speaker 3: every single of them that they come here and they

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Speaker 1: Con Can I ask when exactly does that funding for

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Speaker 1: the security Guard's end? And you said that you're in

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Speaker 3: My understanding is at the end of this year. So

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Speaker 3: we have to renew it or not renew it, and

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Speaker 3: that depends on the government and the council. But I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty sure the government.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to be pushing for it? Are you

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Speaker 3: We support it, We supported because we see the benefits,

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Speaker 3: But certainly we support anything but the gun will do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ken to you from.

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Speaker 1: Our listeners this morning, because I know that a lot

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Speaker 1: So if you want to send us a message and

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Speaker 1: that oc spray is going to be used by crowd controllers.

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Speaker 1: It was an announcement that was made earlier in the

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Speaker 1: called for a timeline. Do you want to know when

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Speaker 3: Still, well, look that's a government decision that we don't

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Speaker 3: have any input on that. One. I said, believe you're

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Speaker 3: There should be some limitation, should be appropriate training, and

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Speaker 3: That applies not only on crowd controllers, applied to everybody,

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Speaker 3: even to the police. The police got sertain guidelines whether

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Speaker 3: they can use tasers or pepper spray, and if crowd

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Speaker 3: clear guidelines and clear training.

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Speaker 1: Corn Just lastly, because we are fast running out of time,

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Speaker 1: but the Darwin Christmas Pageant, it's happening again. This year,

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Speaker 1: forty floats already signing up to take part. It's a

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Speaker 1: it does seem to really benefit our CBD in terms

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Kate, and it was on my dream and

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Speaker 3: became a reality last year, and after we've seen how

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Speaker 3: successful it was, will continued this year. The Christmas pageant

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Speaker 3: will be on Saturday, eighteenth of November. It will be

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Speaker 3: followed by the lighting of our Christmas list in the mall.

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Speaker 3: As you said, we've got forty clothes already and they're

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Speaker 3: getting bigger and better. Sundral Village will open on Friday

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Speaker 3: twenty fourth of November. Yes, it draws a lot of

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Speaker 3: last year you didn't, so you lost a lot of clients.

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Speaker 3: So this time we're going to have the same or

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Speaker 3: even bigger crowd. You were going to hear about ten

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Speaker 3: a coffee, for food, So the local business should stay

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Speaker 3: open and get some benefits out of Christmas parade. The

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Speaker 3: rest of us were the pleasure of seeing Christmas in

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a bit of a call out there to

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Speaker 2: You want to see them stay open.

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Speaker 1: You want to see everybody celebrating Christmas and maybe even

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Speaker 3: Everybody's complaining how slow November and December is. Well, here

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Speaker 3: it is. We bring you ten thousand people at least

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Speaker 3: in the city. It's up to you now to make

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Speaker 3: the best of it. Don't just complain, just do something well.

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Speaker 1: Convat Scarlets, the Lord Mayor of Darwin always good to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you. I appreciate your time. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you again next week.

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Speaker 3: Next week in the studio, so it will be two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to tell you, Connor.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely having a bit of a lend today.

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Speaker 1: I think having a bit more fun than actually getting

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Speaker 3: Enjoy while it lasts.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mike,