Speaker 1: Get a Peter Kelly here. Welcome to you.
Speaker 2: Ain't Seen Nothing Yet the podcast where I chat to
Speaker 2: a movie lover about a classic or beloved movie they
Speaker 2: haven't quite got around to watching until now. And today's
Speaker 2: guest from Anie Donner Broden Kelly.
Speaker 3: That's smarter.
Speaker 4: Wax on, wax off.
Speaker 3: I do wish we could chat Latiner, but.
Speaker 5: I'm having an old friend for dinner.
Speaker 1: Haven't right now?
Speaker 4: Don't see nothing here?
Speaker 2: Broden Kelly drained of being a real professional actor, So
Speaker 2: what the bloody hell happened?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: He went to baller at.
Speaker 2: UNI, where he studied arts and fell into a crowd
Speaker 2: which included future mates and collaborator Zach and Mark. He'll
Speaker 2: go on to create comedy supergroup Arntie Donner, who took
Speaker 2: YouTube by storm and are now currently taking the world
Speaker 2: by an even bigger storm with their Netflix sketch series
Speaker 2: Artie Donner's Big Old House of Fun and what fun
Speaker 2: it is. It is hilarious, genuine laugh out lab comedy.
Speaker 2: See it as soon as you can so you can
Speaker 2: impress everyone around a Christmas table by saying, hey, have
Speaker 2: you guys seen Annie Donna? Everyone will be impressed. Broden
Speaker 2: is a natural performer whose impressive acting range is on
Speaker 2: full display here. He's hilarious, hugely talented, and just a
Speaker 2: downright toplight. Let's see if Broden Kelly can get his wings.
Speaker 1: On today's episode. If you ain't seen.
Speaker 3: Nothing, Hello, my name's Broden Kelly. I'm from comedy group
Speaker 3: Antie Donna. My three favorite films are Moneyball, if he's
Speaker 3: a good hitter?
Speaker 4: Does you here?
Speaker 5: Good Whiplash, Not Quite make Temple, and Paddington.
Speaker 3: I hit a Marmaline sandwich, and up until this morning
Speaker 3: literally once the time an hour ago, I hadn't watched
Speaker 3: It's a Wonderful Life.
Speaker 2: Frank Capra's nineteen forty six masterpiece, It's a Wonderful Life.
Speaker 2: Sea's Jimmy Stewart's kind hearted small town kid with wonderlust.
Speaker 2: George Bailey, never quite being able to escape his small
Speaker 2: town Bedford, falls to the majestic trails of Europe and
Speaker 2: Africa that he said desperately craves. It all catches up
Speaker 2: with George after being told he's worth more dead than alive.
Speaker 2: But the arrival of Guardian Angel Clarence may provide George
Speaker 2: with the clarity to find the perspective he so desperately
Speaker 2: needs Roden Kelley.
Speaker 1: Did you get your wings?
Speaker 3: Mister Helly you No, I didn't. I was a blubbering
Speaker 3: mess this morning. Legitimately, I was just watching it. I thought,
Speaker 3: there's no way this is going to connect with me.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm thirty one, I'm dead inside. But I
Speaker 3: was genuinely moved by the end of the film. It's
Speaker 3: such a weirdly structured film, or so different to how
Speaker 3: films are made now, but like, not only does it
Speaker 3: just open with this weird existential the stars angels and
Speaker 3: they're talking to one another.
Speaker 4: Hello, Joseph, trouble looks like we'll have to send someone down.
Speaker 4: A lot of people asking for help for a man
Speaker 4: named George Bailey. George Bailey, Yes.
Speaker 1: Tonight's crucial night.
Speaker 4: You're right, we'll have to send someone down immediately. Whose
Speaker 4: turn is it? That's why I came to see you, sir.
Speaker 4: It's a clockmaker's turn again. Oh Clarence hasn't got his
Speaker 4: wings yet, has he?
Speaker 3: Which was weird at seven am this morning, But no,
Speaker 3: I had an absence.
Speaker 5: I loved it. I really loved it.
Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about those three films you
Speaker 2: mentioned before. We get too deeply into into It's a
Speaker 2: wonderful life. But when I saw and I'd forgotten about that,
Speaker 2: start like it almost were you surprised to see It's
Speaker 2: almost if Arnie Donna did a Christmas special, you can
Speaker 2: imagine them being some kind of version of this.
Speaker 3: It's breaking some weird boundaries, man like or like just
Speaker 3: talking about angels finding wings and it's start and it
Speaker 3: sits on it for like a good five six minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh, there are jokes in there as well, like what
Speaker 2: what do they wear these days? And the book Tom
Speaker 2: saw Yer, which is like I think I worked out
Speaker 2: as like seventy years old by that point, so it's
Speaker 2: like that was happening now. It would be like Catching
Speaker 2: the Rye or Charlotte's Web. Yeah, you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: really funny.
Speaker 3: It's a yeah, it's a real I was like, this
Speaker 3: is not how I expected this film to start, and
Speaker 3: it was the film. It was awesome watching it this morning,
Speaker 3: or watching it for the first time. Being my age,
Speaker 3: being a kid who grew up in the nineties, we
Speaker 3: have the great joy of thinking that the Simpsons invented everything,
Speaker 3: and then as you get older you realize how many
Speaker 3: things they were referencing, and the amount of Simpsons in
Speaker 3: It's a Wonderful Life is so funny. I felt such
Speaker 3: an enjoyable layer for me.
Speaker 2: Simpsons comes up a lot in this podcast, watching like
Speaker 2: The Godfather and going oh, now I understand, I.
Speaker 3: Want I want his wife dead, I want his cat
Speaker 3: and his dog dead. Oh wait, wait, wait wait? What
Speaker 3: was before the cat.
Speaker 1: Just killed?
Speaker 6: In me.
Speaker 2: To three great films, Moneyball has come up before, as
Speaker 2: has Whiplash. Moneyball was one of the most surprising, despite
Speaker 2: the fact that it was I think maybe ben a
Speaker 2: Miller and written by Aaron Sorkin and featuring Brad Pitts,
Speaker 2: so it shouldn't come as a surprise that that was
Speaker 2: a really good film. But it was a surprise because
Speaker 2: he thought, this is like, can you imagine an AFL
Speaker 2: film where it was like Jeff Walsh and Derek Heine
Speaker 2: Colin were going through exact selection.
Speaker 1: I mean, this year collin Wood may be able to
Speaker 1: make a film.
Speaker 3: I want to see a film about the cap space
Speaker 3: of Collingwood this year. That is a film I do
Speaker 3: actually want to see, Peter, but that's a different podcast
Speaker 3: for a different time.
Speaker 1: You can play Adam Lau.
Speaker 3: But no, absolutely, it's it's a film that whenever you
Speaker 3: put it on, whenever I put it on, it locks
Speaker 3: you in immediately, and it's got so many things going
Speaker 3: against it. It's a film about data, it's a film
Speaker 3: about sport, which you know, sport films are hard to do,
Speaker 3: I think. But it's just outstanding. It's got It's Bennett Miller.
Speaker 3: It's got this this way of telling stories that Capodi.
Speaker 3: And the other one which is called I'm going to
Speaker 3: say it, it's got we got Moneyball the one and.
Speaker 1: What's the other one?
Speaker 3: Fox Catcher three of my favorite films generally speaking. He's
Speaker 3: absolutely outstanding. Uh.
Speaker 2: And the daughter in that and that that lovely touch
Speaker 2: on the song is talk about bank for your back
Speaker 2: as far as you know, like some sports films, a
Speaker 2: lot of sports films we'll get, you know, we'll go
Speaker 2: to a family in the personal side.
Speaker 1: But like she's not in it a lot.
Speaker 2: No, but that song when they when it gets when
Speaker 2: he plays it, it's great. When she's well by the way,
Speaker 2: it's like must have been written by Lord or someone
Speaker 2: like it's.
Speaker 3: I think it really was. I think it was written
Speaker 3: by someone something like that. It's got this weird lineage.
Speaker 3: That's that song, But it's The family story is not
Speaker 3: a huge part of the film, but it like completely
Speaker 3: anchors this this story.
Speaker 5: It's really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whiplash has come up once or twice before. It
Speaker 2: is such a great film. My older sons have watched
Speaker 2: it and loved it.
Speaker 1: It is. It is just tense from the get going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's this drama school in Ballarat was ten percent
Speaker 3: of this. But the idea of just being a young
Speaker 3: person who's trying to figure out who they are and
Speaker 3: just decides that they are an art form or they
Speaker 3: are something and give themselves whole, you know, wholeheartedly to it.
Speaker 3: And the ending is just outstanding and such a good
Speaker 3: encapsulation of it. But also I really love that the
Speaker 3: main guy is just a prick and you're and you
Speaker 3: go and you're kind of rooting for him even though
Speaker 3: he's making the wrong decisions and he's an asshole.
Speaker 5: I yeah, And the music is just awesome.
Speaker 2: This is ex awesome, And I think you're expecting JK.
Speaker 2: Simmons and the young lead actor in that role whose
Speaker 2: name bank Early in the morning. We usually don't record
Speaker 2: this early in the morning to at some point kind
Speaker 2: of you know, understand each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Miles Teller, Miles Teller, you're particularly good in
Speaker 3: that role.
Speaker 2: We don't have to mention we have maybe some googling
Speaker 2: going on, but yeah, you kind of expect that they
Speaker 2: might at some point understand each other and that just
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, which is great.
Speaker 5: No, No, it's yeah that thing of like, yeah, the music,
Speaker 5: the way it's.
Speaker 3: Just stream of consciousness almost And yeah, Damien Chazelle, I think,
Speaker 3: is the director of that movie, and he went on
Speaker 3: and some other cool things. Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 2: I love that that final, the third act in it
Speaker 2: because it kind of goes in a you know, in
Speaker 2: the direction that you just with a car accent you
Speaker 2: just did not literally do not see coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's the ending of that film, you know,
Speaker 3: not to give it away, but the idea that it
Speaker 3: just ends in passion, or it ends in just the
Speaker 3: feeling that he's looking for this whole time. But that
Speaker 3: says not great things about that person and suggests that
Speaker 3: he's going to have.
Speaker 5: A bad life. But he's reached that.
Speaker 3: But he's reached this place he wanted to get to,
Speaker 3: and that's self destructive. And but he's happy there. It's
Speaker 3: you really feel it. It's like being a creative person
Speaker 3: and trying to get to a place and knowing it's
Speaker 3: going to cost stuff, but it being worth it to you.
Speaker 5: It's it's really cool.
Speaker 2: It's it's interesting, isn't it, because usually your protagonists will
Speaker 2: go on a journey that they don't necessarily get what
Speaker 2: they want, but they get what they need.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: With Miles Tallow in Whiplash, it's it's it's kind of
Speaker 2: it's kind a bit warped, isn't it, because exactly what
Speaker 2: you just said. It's it's it gets to this place
Speaker 2: where it's like, this is actually really what you wanted.
Speaker 3: And yeah, his dad Paul Buckman from Man About You,
Speaker 3: he's Paul Paul. He He's I think you're supposed to represent, like,
Speaker 3: you know, a nice life, a happy life, a person
Speaker 3: you know, you know where you have family and your
Speaker 3: connections and you appreciate everything. And like there's this moment
Speaker 3: where he literally just hugs him and pushes him away
Speaker 3: and walks back onto stage.
Speaker 5: You know JK.
Speaker 3: Simmons, who represents you know, solitude and and pursuit of
Speaker 3: this thing and being a prick And it's just it's
Speaker 3: really cool, a really really nice visual representation of it,
Speaker 3: just next.
Speaker 5: To sick jazz, just awesome jazz for two hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is that thing of you know, it's
Speaker 2: an interesting study into do you have to suffer for
Speaker 2: your for the art? You know, and I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean your your story is really interesting, you know with
Speaker 2: the Arnie Donner. So you guys have worked really hard
Speaker 2: for a long time, Yeah, to get to you know,
Speaker 2: where you are.
Speaker 3: So it's yeah, there's a lot of it I see
Speaker 3: in man, like the idea of being in your mid
Speaker 3: twenties and working really hard and sacrificing everything. I say
Speaker 3: it all the time, but like, if you want to
Speaker 3: sort of break through and do something interesting with your life,
Speaker 3: you've got to kind of accept that for a lot
Speaker 3: of your twenties you're going to look like, you know,
Speaker 3: a piece of crap to your parents and to your
Speaker 3: girlfriend and stuff that you know, he's not doing anything
Speaker 3: but you kind of are. But it's not showing dividends
Speaker 3: at that time. And that idea that you have to
Speaker 3: do that you have to kind of have no weekends
Speaker 3: and no friendships and all this. You know, you've got
Speaker 3: to really focus everything to it, and it's to an
Speaker 3: extent true, but I think it's also like to be
Speaker 3: the best creative person, and you know, to be the
Speaker 3: best creative person, you have to have this layer of
Speaker 3: also being calm and being open and reflexive, and and
Speaker 3: being having family and friends around you. Like, being a
Speaker 3: good creative person is about balance as well, I think,
Speaker 3: and that's something I've had to learn, Like after eight
Speaker 3: years of doing this and making and making sketches and
Speaker 3: TV and things with Auntie.
Speaker 2: Donner, when I started stand up in ninety six, and
Speaker 2: it wasn't until I did a guest spot on TV
Speaker 2: on a show called IMT in Melbourne Tonight which was
Speaker 2: st No, it was Frankie J.
Speaker 1: Holden Tonight Live with Steve Iza.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I was at school when Steve I's I
Speaker 2: was doing and that was like, you know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of hero worship going on with Steve I's Tonight Live.
Speaker 5: And what was the Graham Kennedy one?
Speaker 2: Then Graham Kennedy was IMT and they rebooted it with
Speaker 2: Frankie J. Holden for a couple of years and I
Speaker 2: got a stand up spot on that so I could
Speaker 2: say to my parents, could see it and kind of go, oh,
Speaker 2: we get it now. They weren't coming to the s
Speaker 2: B to watch me do no Stand up on a
Speaker 2: Sunday or a Tuesday night, but they could see that
Speaker 2: and they could like say to their friends, yeah, oh
Speaker 2: he's doing well, and they could they could feel comfortable that,
Speaker 2: you know, I was getting somewhere. The kind of things
Speaker 2: I could tell them didn't mean anything, Like I could
Speaker 2: say the fleety you know, I said, he liked.
Speaker 1: My joke, you know, and well that means nothing.
Speaker 2: When you were doing sketches on like YouTube, when did
Speaker 2: your parents get what you were doing.
Speaker 3: It's that thing as well, where you want your parents
Speaker 3: to know that you're doing well, but at the same
Speaker 3: time they they get invested in a way that other
Speaker 3: people don't. So like since this Netflix show has come out,
Speaker 3: both of them, I don't think I've said I watched
Speaker 3: the show and enjoyed it, but they've just said peripheral
Speaker 3: stuff around it. Like Dad the day that the show
Speaker 3: was announced, just sat on his googling Auntie Donner and
Speaker 3: looking at every article and every person and comes back
Speaker 3: and tells me, do you know that you were mentioned
Speaker 3: on this? But like just like that they're writing and
Speaker 3: as much as I am, but so like I think
Speaker 3: they just like and they and they definitely like seeing
Speaker 3: like triple M means more to them than YouTube, even
Speaker 3: though we just collaborated with a YouTuber in Melbourne who
Speaker 3: has sixteen million subscribers, and you know, it's just one
Speaker 3: of the you know, one of the big I don't
Speaker 3: care about that, but hey, you were on Melloy Kennedy,
Speaker 3: you were on Drive, which is a great show. But
Speaker 3: just in comparison to the audience size, is you know different.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. Paddington too.
Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed because I haven't seen it and it's a
Speaker 2: film that's been on my must watch list for so
Speaker 2: long because I loved Paddington One. Talk about surprising films.
Speaker 2: Paddington was an incredible film and I've only heard the
Speaker 2: only thing I've heard about Padington's two is that it's
Speaker 2: better than Padington One.
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, it's I think it well for a long time.
Speaker 3: I think it had one hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes
Speaker 3: review and audience response, which is impossible. But it actually
Speaker 3: is the director of these films whose name escapes me,
Speaker 3: which is the theme of today's podcast is from Mighty Boosh.
Speaker 3: I think he directed all the Mighty Boosh stuff, and
Speaker 3: he's got this great sense for comedy, but it's what
Speaker 3: comedy often needs, which is his great comedic adventure, which is,
Speaker 3: you know, for everyone, there's jokes for adults, there's jokes
Speaker 3: for kids. It's got this great ensemble because the director
Speaker 3: understands comedic actors and their importance. But then more than
Speaker 3: any more important than anything else. It has just immense
Speaker 3: heart and like these films can break break me like
Speaker 3: no other. But also Hugh Grant and Nicole Kimmen in
Speaker 3: the first one, but Hugh Grant in the second one
Speaker 3: as the villain is so so fantastic. Yeah, it's one
Speaker 3: of those films that's just about perfect. And you know,
Speaker 3: if I want to have kids, just so I can
Speaker 3: show them that film because it's super super fun.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying old older Hugh Grant. I was watching The
Speaker 1: Gentleman the other night.
Speaker 2: I only watch it for the first time with Matthew
Speaker 2: McConaughey to Guy Richie film. Yeah, and he's so good
Speaker 2: in that is I haven't made my way all the
Speaker 2: way through the underdoing, but he's he's great in that
Speaker 2: even like Florence.
Speaker 3: Florence Florence Foster Jenkins Jenkins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great in that.
Speaker 5: How great lead.
Speaker 3: Actor turns in their fifties where they start to do
Speaker 3: other stuff.
Speaker 5: Rusty Crow's doing it as well. With interesting films you.
Speaker 2: Feel like they can they particularly those have had big
Speaker 2: success in a certain genre. Like you, Grant was always
Speaker 2: a romantic comedy guy, like in some of the best
Speaker 2: comedies of all time, Notting Hill and Four Winnings in particular.
Speaker 2: And so he took so long, and I think he
Speaker 2: kind of hate like I think he kind of began
Speaker 2: to hate it and dread it. So you need to
Speaker 2: get some wrinkles or something to kind of go, I
Speaker 2: can do I can do this now. I don't have
Speaker 2: to be in American because he never worked in an
Speaker 2: American Yeah, romcom.
Speaker 3: And I think audiences, if they're a fan of someone,
Speaker 3: generally speaking, just like to see them going and have
Speaker 3: having fun.
Speaker 5: In our show. There's this big one of the biggest
Speaker 5: TV shows.
Speaker 3: In the world at the moment is this Amazon Prime
Speaker 3: original show called.
Speaker 1: The Boys, which is instead of watching it at.
Speaker 3: The adaptation of a comic book about if superheroes were
Speaker 3: privatized pretty much if they work for a private company
Speaker 3: and it's the lead. The guy who play is the
Speaker 3: supermany type role in it is this key we actor
Speaker 3: called Anthony Starr, and he just turned out to be
Speaker 3: a Donna fan. And when we were making our show,
Speaker 3: we asked if he wanted to come to a cameo
Speaker 3: and he was more than happy to. And you know,
Speaker 3: he's been awesome because a lot of people his audience
Speaker 3: are just really excited to see this guy who plays
Speaker 3: such an iconic role in this TV show come and
Speaker 3: be stupid.
Speaker 1: With us people.
Speaker 3: If people become fans of someone, they like to just
Speaker 3: see them be silly and have fun. They're appreciating the
Speaker 3: actor as much as they're appreciating the role they're playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You mentioned early on that you've got
Speaker 2: an emotional watch against a wonderful life. Yes, people might
Speaker 2: be surprised that you Paddington Too was on your list.
Speaker 2: Do you are you aware that you would you would
Speaker 2: be surprising people by its. You know, if you watch
Speaker 2: any Donna that you were a weeping mess watching the films.
Speaker 3: It's probably those two films, the ones that break me in.
Speaker 3: There's probably a few others. But yeah, if a story
Speaker 3: is told well and it's saying something nice and I
Speaker 3: get it, then I'm gone, you know, and it's a thing.
Speaker 3: There's definitely an age. I don't know what the age is,
Speaker 3: but there was some age. And often I hear it
Speaker 3: with people who have kids. As soon as you have kids,
Speaker 3: you start.
Speaker 1: So soon you have kids, man, you it gets messy,
Speaker 1: just connects.
Speaker 5: You start to connect with things you didn't connect with before.
Speaker 2: I imagine, particularly anything that involves a child being hurt
Speaker 2: or in danger that that kind of sets you up.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't have to be that. You do just
Speaker 2: become more. I've always been pretty emotional watching films, but
Speaker 2: we went up tenfold when I had kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: So that's something to look forward to.
Speaker 2: It is something to look forward to. Let's chat about
Speaker 2: it's a wonderful life. Actually, before we get onto that
Speaker 2: you studied, I mentioned in the intro you studied and
Speaker 2: your dream was to be a serious actor. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: obviously is too far gone.
Speaker 3: Now that's never happening unless I do one of those turns.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why you're just planning that seed. Yeah, that's right. Hey,
Speaker 7: did you know Broden can do serious? He plays his
Speaker 7: drug addict, who's the president in this film? And Oscar buzz.
Speaker 2: I think, I think we have to readdress your reboot,
Speaker 2: your your cameo from It's a Day at the Heart
Speaker 2: the Hunter. What's that Hunter up to these days? But
Speaker 2: when you were, you know, dreaming that dream, did you
Speaker 2: have like films like what would have been the film
Speaker 2: that you maybe dreamt of being in? Like where I
Speaker 2: know a lot you know a lot of actresses. I
Speaker 2: know look at Sophet's choice as being one of the
Speaker 2: ones and gone like that, the Meryl Stream in that film?
Speaker 3: Yeah, was there one at all that you kind of
Speaker 3: There was never any film. But all I wanted to
Speaker 3: do all from like fifteen to the first time I
Speaker 3: stepped on stage in Anti Donna was. I just wanted
Speaker 3: to be at the Art Center in Melbourne performing the
Speaker 3: lead in a Shakespeare That's all I wanted to really,
Speaker 3: So I would have loved to have been Macbeth or
Speaker 3: Hamlet or any any big or Benedict in much ado
Speaker 3: about nothing. All I wanted to do is I love Shakespeare.
Speaker 3: I like I feel like I can translate what he says.
Speaker 3: I used to feel like I could translate what he
Speaker 3: said into a way that people understood all I wanted
Speaker 3: to do and never happened.
Speaker 1: But that I mean, and I joke that.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously that's that's gone a right, but that's
Speaker 2: that's clearly still you know, in your in your future,
Speaker 2: there's like there's no Ani. Donna is a spectacular show
Speaker 2: and group and you're but you're anyone watching that sees
Speaker 2: the range that you all actually have. You know, if
Speaker 2: you don't know any Donna, you know as far as
Speaker 2: the history, you're You're met Melbourne Uni, Ballert Uni Balerte Union.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Melbourne UNI's best friend.
Speaker 2: Distant cousin of Melbourne Uni, and you know, or dreaming
Speaker 2: of being you know, serious actors and then you you
Speaker 2: kind of found each other and became Anti Done. It's
Speaker 2: it's a fantastic story. And then you know you really
Speaker 2: worked hard and made really tough choices to get to
Speaker 2: where you are, you know, and the sacrifices. But anyone
Speaker 2: who watches Only Done you can see that it's not
Speaker 2: You're not just being silly in sketches. There are your
Speaker 2: ability to turn from being you know, for me, the
Speaker 2: being heightened or silly into like quite you know, threatening,
Speaker 2: you know, like you know when you bringing the drone
Speaker 2: music on, you know, there's a there's this you know,
Speaker 2: the one that I've mentioned to you the in the
Speaker 2: latest series on Netflix is you're playing Ellen de Generous,
Speaker 2: which is uncanny resemblance ridiculous how much so, but that
Speaker 2: kind of that turn you have of going from you know,
Speaker 2: being kind of up and about and excited to kind.
Speaker 1: Of like, you know, this is serious, now this is
Speaker 1: you know you are Ben Mendelssohn.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I think it's almost the same thing when
Speaker 3: you're doing Shakespeare, going how can I make an audience
Speaker 3: understand this? So you've got to kind of show yourself
Speaker 3: and say, I'm saying this even though you're doing a
Speaker 3: man who who's recently passed in Shakespeare and sketch like
Speaker 3: doing what we do is the same is you have
Speaker 3: a dumb little idea in your head and you find
Speaker 3: it funny, and the boys might find it funny, and
Speaker 3: it's just about going, how can I express this in
Speaker 3: a way that people are going to understand? And how
Speaker 3: can I show myself in this? So it's the same stuff, really,
Speaker 3: it's just with a much worse writer in me and.
Speaker 1: Not true, not true.
Speaker 2: I'm putting you on the same level as I appreciate
Speaker 2: William the Bard Shakespeare. Hey, let's talk into one of
Speaker 2: a life. So you got emotional. You watch it this morning,
Speaker 2: it's fresh in your mind. What did you know of
Speaker 2: this film coming into it?
Speaker 3: I knew what did I know? I knew it was Christmas,
Speaker 3: which I was watching, watching it for an hour and
Speaker 3: a half, and I was like, is this the right one?
Speaker 3: Did I watch? Did I watch the right one?
Speaker 2: I got twelve ydd on the weekend said can we
Speaker 2: watch a Christmas film? So funny enough, I'm going to
Speaker 2: watch it as wonderful life, watch it, watch it with me,
Speaker 2: And the same thing I just said to him. And
Speaker 2: at the same point I said to him, trust me,
Speaker 2: it is a Christmas film.
Speaker 3: I know it's that thing. If I think Christmas just
Speaker 3: means family and happiness and you and there's I reckon
Speaker 3: ten percent of films end with and it's Christmas. Films
Speaker 3: always just wrap up at Christmas because it's such a
Speaker 3: great point to be able to put a book end
Speaker 3: on so many things. Yeah, that surprised me. I knew
Speaker 3: it was Christmas, but Yeah, it didn't come for a
Speaker 3: long time. I knew James Stewart, and I knew that
Speaker 3: he was happy at the end, and that's all I knew.
Speaker 2: Mary Grays, Oh goodness short.
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas for me, Marry.
Speaker 4: Christmas, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3: You wonderful belling alone?
Speaker 1: Did you know?
Speaker 2: Had you heard about like every time a bell rings?
Speaker 2: And angel when you never heard that?
Speaker 3: I thought angel gets his wings. I knew that phrase,
Speaker 3: but I didn't know it came from this. There was
Speaker 3: a lot of things I went, oh, that's from that, yeah,
Speaker 3: which was which was.
Speaker 5: Lovely it felt.
Speaker 3: I thought it might have been an adaptation of Christmas Carol,
Speaker 3: Christmas Carol. Maybe it feels like it's from the same world,
Speaker 3: but they're not the same film.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I didn't even know what You was made.
Speaker 5: And when this film was set.
Speaker 3: When it says it's set in nineteen twenty eight, I
Speaker 3: was surely this couldn't have been made in the twenties,
Speaker 3: And then obviously it wasn't. It's almost an epic. It
Speaker 3: goes over twenty thirty years or something.
Speaker 2: That's That's one of the things that I'd kind of
Speaker 2: forgotten when I was rewatching it.
Speaker 1: That how long.
Speaker 2: It's almost Forrest Gump like as far as it spans decades.
Speaker 2: We see young George Bailey and young Violent and young Mary.
Speaker 2: I think, why it's at a bit less slush shaming
Speaker 2: going on, and maybe all the way through to be honest.
Speaker 2: And then then James Stewart becomes George Bailey and we
Speaker 2: see him and none of the other characters or besides
Speaker 2: the two women, viol and Mary, but no one else
Speaker 2: seems to age.
Speaker 1: Like you got Potter the old man, He's like, how
Speaker 1: has he not died in this?
Speaker 3: And he gets a pair at some point you get
Speaker 3: it's yeah, I've thought James Stewart as a young guy.
Speaker 3: I bought it that he was young there, and then
Speaker 3: I bought it all the way to yeah to what
Speaker 3: is he forty fifty?
Speaker 2: At the end, it didn't like, it didn't bother me.
Speaker 2: And like I said, this is probably the fourth or
Speaker 2: fifth time i'd seen this film. I've watched it, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: quite a while ago, and I had never thought of it.
Speaker 2: So it's only when I knew I was probably gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about it, I thought, you know, you start
Speaker 2: looking for things, do you think, why is Potter and
Speaker 2: the pharmacy gow why why, well, they're not aging.
Speaker 3: It's true. You get to a certain age and then
Speaker 3: you then you just stay the same for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the which is, you know, maybe possibly true the chemists.
Speaker 1: So so Joe Bailey's working at.
Speaker 2: The chemists, he reads the you got the girls there
Speaker 2: and and Mary tells him that she in his bad ear,
Speaker 2: that he's gonna she'll always love him. I'm surprised that
Speaker 2: George didn't hear that for me. She was pretty close
Speaker 2: the other year. He does work.
Speaker 3: It's very true, very true.
Speaker 2: And then he sees the telegram that the Gou's son
Speaker 2: had died, which we assume.
Speaker 1: It was the Spanish flu.
Speaker 2: Funnily enough that, yeah, well if it died from influenza,
Speaker 2: and it's like nineteen at that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Spanish flu.
Speaker 1: If John does, it's a Spanish flu.
Speaker 2: And then he goes in and cops an absolute beating,
Speaker 2: which apparently the guy who played Gao was drunk at
Speaker 2: the time and.
Speaker 3: Really hitting the actor was drunk.
Speaker 2: The actor was drunk and really hitting that little boy,
Speaker 2: little boy, and apparently now apparently the blood in his
Speaker 2: ear was real. No, Now, oh my gosh, I feel
Speaker 2: like he must have really gone for a few takes.
Speaker 2: And I really whagged because that scene when I was
Speaker 2: watching it, that seemed like a prop blood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you never know with black and white. But also,
Speaker 3: this is the Shirley Temple Studios buying children age, so
Speaker 3: it's not beyond the bounds of conceivable that.
Speaker 5: They would have just helped the crap out of this kid.
Speaker 3: We've got ten more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, yeah, it was strange. And then so
Speaker 2: George Bailey and they said up. They do a good
Speaker 2: job in that kind of almost grandhog Day way of
Speaker 2: like setting up these little things like town Dog in
Speaker 2: the town and Burton Ernie, who apparently not did not
Speaker 2: inspire the the sesame street icons. They're just Burton Ernie's coincidence.
Speaker 2: Apparently they're good old people names for sure, great old
Speaker 2: people names.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the turn, the turn of the old man from
Speaker 3: whacking to just complete love and appreciation is pretty outstanding.
Speaker 3: Just complete just that's pretty much. And that kid is
Speaker 3: an incredible performer. I thought he was young George Bailey
Speaker 3: as a young actor. I don't know who he ended
Speaker 3: up being, or if he did anything, or whether he
Speaker 3: didn't survive the year.
Speaker 5: The blows to their head.
Speaker 2: I think after a pretty rough on set, he probably
Speaker 2: gave it, gave it the game enough of this, but no,
Speaker 2: he was outstanding.
Speaker 1: I thought he was good.
Speaker 2: And did you have you ever tasted poison to find
Speaker 2: out if it was poison?
Speaker 5: That was good as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I think one of the main I found this out
Speaker 3: the other day watching ABC's Australian Story. But one of
Speaker 3: the main medications for the Spanish flu was a little
Speaker 3: bit of strychnine. Oh, which was supposed to just like
Speaker 3: pep you up a little bit. Obviously, strychnine is bad
Speaker 3: for you, and don't drink strychnine. But in Australia when
Speaker 3: they when people had the Spanish flu when they were
Speaker 3: coming back from the war, one of the main medications
Speaker 3: was a little bit of strychnine.
Speaker 2: I think Trump still follows, Yes, that's right, whatever you got.
Speaker 1: Have you so many Jimmy, Jimmy stewartt films.
Speaker 3: I know I've on Rear Window was the only one
Speaker 3: i'd seen as well. He and I said it to Annie,
Speaker 3: my partner, when we were watching it. He's a kind
Speaker 3: of actor that I think films really miss, where he
Speaker 3: is clearly a leading man. He's clearly he runs that
Speaker 3: film so much, but he's also really funny, he's really quirky.
Speaker 3: He's and he's so and this isn't a film's not
Speaker 3: that old when this movie is being made. But he's
Speaker 3: so open and he's got he's still he's got all
Speaker 3: this technique is outstanding, but he's also a leading man
Speaker 3: who's a bit funny, and I don't think people get
Speaker 3: the chance to do that anymore. I think the last
Speaker 3: I watched Back to the Future the other week as well,
Speaker 3: and Michael J. Fox is the same where you trust
Speaker 3: him with the movie, but he's also almost like the
Speaker 3: comedic foil at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the closest I can think of Jimmy Stewart now
Speaker 2: is like Tom Hanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as far as being somebody.
Speaker 2: You you trust, and just the presence and there's a
Speaker 2: goodness that seems to be in him, whether he's playing
Speaker 2: that with the character or it seems to come from
Speaker 2: the man himself. Yeah, it's in when you go to
Speaker 2: the freeze frame when he first appears and he freeze frames,
Speaker 2: like you wonder. I think this podcast I kind of
Speaker 2: go some of these techniques. Sometimes I sit down and
Speaker 2: watch a classic film and I and I try to
Speaker 2: tell myself, no, this is you know, this is going
Speaker 2: to be great, you know, and it can feel like
Speaker 2: a chore getting pressing play. And then I realized, of course,
Speaker 2: this is a great film. This is why people talk
Speaker 2: about this film.
Speaker 3: I felt that That's why I didn't watch it till
Speaker 3: this morning, because I was putting it off. And that's
Speaker 3: why I never watch old films. Like very occasionally watch
Speaker 3: old films, but it's one hundred percent. You stay with
Speaker 3: the film. It's never boring, it's never lull, it has
Speaker 3: awesome film techniques, it's it's I was really really happy
Speaker 3: I was forced to watch it.
Speaker 1: Absolute my absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2: When Jimmy Stewart when he kisses somebody, he kisses their
Speaker 2: whole face.
Speaker 3: This is around cheats in the fact. Yeah, that when
Speaker 3: he's he goes over to a house and he's grumpy
Speaker 3: that he has to get married or whatever that whole
Speaker 3: scene is about, and he just kissing on the face
Speaker 3: and the cheeks and the hugs.
Speaker 5: It really is an embrace, like a full embrace.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it is not COVID safe.
Speaker 3: No, that's right.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: Let's I'll talk about that scene you just mentioned. But
Speaker 2: Donna Reid plays Mary, right, how did you find it?
Speaker 2: I found it quite She felt contemporary to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one or two others that escaping me in now, but
Speaker 2: she a little while back for season one and Ingrid
Speaker 2: Bergmann's in that, and Ingri Bergmann felt like she was
Speaker 2: in a film from you know, the nineteen forties.
Speaker 1: You know, it felt like she was great, but it
Speaker 1: felt where Donna Reid felt like.
Speaker 2: There was a not just a look but despite the fainting,
Speaker 2: and there was some moments where but.
Speaker 3: That's when she's an old maid.
Speaker 1: The fainting is you know, of its era. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I really loved Donna reading this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, she's she's super open and yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I thought she was really lovely too. And you you
Speaker 3: you you fall in love with that character a bit
Speaker 3: as well, and you you know, but when it's unbelievable
Speaker 3: that when she's a maid and she comes oh she's
Speaker 3: a oh disgusting old maid, it's just the same beautiful
Speaker 3: woman with.
Speaker 5: Glasses on and her hair up, the old glasses and
Speaker 5: hair up.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, yeah, I'd love to see more of her
Speaker 3: films to be honest, did she do much else she.
Speaker 1: Wanted to ask her for from here to eternity?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, she she was had a great few years
Speaker 2: around this film, this film, and died in eighty nine,
Speaker 2: eighty four. I think I think she was doing Dynasty
Speaker 2: or Dallas one of those. Really, Yeah, that's where she
Speaker 2: she ended up.
Speaker 1: But she was great.
Speaker 2: So that scene, which is a bit weird, when when
Speaker 2: George Bailey his mom, who also enjoys a bit of
Speaker 2: open mouth kissing.
Speaker 3: His mom kisses his mom at one point, but.
Speaker 2: It's like almost a looking like really brings her in
Speaker 2: for for you know, like eye contact and kiss on
Speaker 2: the mouth, which looks for me to be open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he's very open with it's probably yes. I
Speaker 3: do remember that the actors who.
Speaker 2: Played his mom has weirdly played his mum on five
Speaker 2: different occasions in films.
Speaker 3: You're joking, is this a is this a is RGM
Speaker 3: or what was the I think it was RGM, yes,
Speaker 3: because I saw I looked up where it was shot
Speaker 3: and was shot down in Culver City, which is yeah,
Speaker 3: the old r GM, which is not in Hollywood. It's
Speaker 3: like an hour's drive away. But it's I think I
Speaker 3: think Citizen Kane was also done there. I think Morris
Speaker 3: and Wells was an RGM guy. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, but they've just gone now. I
Speaker 3: think it's Sony Studios. But some of the greatest films
Speaker 3: were made in this one studio that's no longer. You
Speaker 3: can go and do tours. I lived there for six months.
Speaker 3: I went and did it sort of universal and paramount
Speaker 3: and you know all of them, and they're all the
Speaker 3: most incredible places where so much history is. And I
Speaker 3: would love to go to RGM as well, because I imagine
Speaker 3: Bedford Falls is that what Bedford Falls would still be
Speaker 3: there and to some extent or you would have been
Speaker 3: able to see where it was shot. But like at Fox,
Speaker 3: you can go and have a look with the house
Speaker 3: they made Shirley Temple to live in so that she
Speaker 3: could never leave the Fox studios.
Speaker 2: There there it is just the one bedroom another time
Speaker 2: another time it's so it was this was shut during
Speaker 2: a heat wave. Yeah, so despite the snow, and they
Speaker 2: had it. They developed a new snow technique. Up until
Speaker 2: this point, they shows snow. They would literally paint corn
Speaker 2: flakes white. Right, and but and the problem with that
Speaker 2: was it made noise, so they would have to do
Speaker 2: the audio afterwards. So Frank Capra, who made this film,
Speaker 2: decided he wanted to record the you know, the audio live,
Speaker 2: so they couldn't have the corn flex dropping to the ground.
Speaker 2: So they came up with this technique which used it
Speaker 2: was like a fire fighting kind of chemical mixed with
Speaker 2: water and then to a win machine. And that was
Speaker 2: and that kind of is the first time they actually
Speaker 2: won an Oscar for the scientific and technical contribution, Right.
Speaker 2: I imagine that would have been during the off air broadcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's early in the day.
Speaker 2: But but there you go. So that scene, so he
Speaker 2: kisses his mum in the mouth. His mum encourages him
Speaker 2: to cut his mates lunch and don't worry Sam, which
Speaker 2: we were all on board because we see Sam on
Speaker 2: the telephone and he's got another woman. He seems to
Speaker 2: be bad, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: The one that opens up the pool basketball court. No,
Speaker 3: that's another guy.
Speaker 2: Sam is e or e Or who will not let
Speaker 2: go of that joke?
Speaker 3: Is he the one that goes to England? Yes and
Speaker 3: makes yes right, Okay, that makes sense because I'm awful
Speaker 3: with names in movies. Yeah, and it's so important as
Speaker 3: a twenty five thousand dollars from Sam Wainwright or wherever.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm googling that. I don't know who the
Speaker 3: hell that is? Yeah, so she so who the ex
Speaker 3: of Mary?
Speaker 2: So there's a bit of a look where George Bailey
Speaker 2: is still not letting it go like being cut. But yes,
Speaker 2: so okay, let's talk about the mano man moment with
Speaker 2: the pool. So that's kind of weird in itself, but
Speaker 2: that was a real that just existed.
Speaker 1: In that high school where they shot that.
Speaker 2: Really, so I think they'd this go one listen as well,
Speaker 2: let's do it because it makes no real sense.
Speaker 5: It's one of those things that I was watching.
Speaker 3: I was going, if this was if you were writing
Speaker 3: a film, now, this would be cut because it's such
Speaker 3: a divergence. It's completely unnecessary. But it's a cool moment.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of moments in this movie where for
Speaker 3: time things would have been driven to the point because
Speaker 3: you don't get to the supernatural element of this movie
Speaker 3: until twenty minutes before the ending, So there's an hour
Speaker 3: and a half where they're just kind of hanging out
Speaker 3: doing stuff, and that film that's just a lovely little
Speaker 3: fifteen minute section where they have a nice dance and
Speaker 3: fall in a pool and then they put on some
Speaker 3: football clothes and go for a walk and it's just
Speaker 3: really lovely and sweet.
Speaker 2: But I don't think you'd see that in films much anymore.
Speaker 2: You When I was watching it, I'm thinking, because obviously
Speaker 2: he came over. Now he asked Mary to dance, and
Speaker 2: she was chatting to somebody, but you know he's having
Speaker 2: a chat. Doesn't mean if she wants to dance with
Speaker 2: this and other bloke. She gets to dance with that
Speaker 2: bloke and then he cuts up a bit rough about it.
Speaker 2: And then there's another bloke. I don't know why, what
Speaker 2: investment this bloke has They that's send to me mates,
Speaker 2: and he says, you know, they're dancing over and I've
Speaker 2: got the key to this.
Speaker 5: I gave him the key as well, who are you?
Speaker 2: And then they start dancing and everyone else has noticed
Speaker 2: is this gaping chasm opening up in the middle of
Speaker 2: the dance? Law except George and Mary, and nobody tells it.
Speaker 3: They just keep clapping along. Yeah, that is that was
Speaker 3: a lot of okay. The director is that you guys
Speaker 3: have to buy in a bit here. Everyone has to
Speaker 3: buy in a bit and have really clear objectives.
Speaker 2: I wonder if this was the first movie, speaking of tropes,
Speaker 2: the first movie where it was the first all in
Speaker 2: dive into a swimming pool scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting, and that obviously is a big party
Speaker 3: boy trope in movies. Absolutely, yeah, almost famous I can
Speaker 3: think of, and there's many others. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: in suits. And Annie who was watching with her, she
Speaker 3: was like, oh, no, your phones, your your phones in
Speaker 3: your pockets.
Speaker 2: That's why you see less of those scenes there because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: people to get stuff out of their pockets. So then
Speaker 2: they go to they go for a walk and she's
Speaker 2: in the robe, and they go to that house where
Speaker 2: they're eventually going to Dubai. Did you there is there is?
Speaker 2: You know, we're not canceling. It's a wonderful life and
Speaker 2: or it's a wonderful film. Everyone should watch it. It's
Speaker 2: in inspiring. But there's a weirdness when Mary's naked in
Speaker 2: the bushes.
Speaker 5: And refuses to give it make a dressing gown.
Speaker 1: There's a power play going on from George Baileyan.
Speaker 6: That was a very interesting situation. Please give me my robe.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 6: Man doesn't get in a situation like this every day.
Speaker 6: I'd like to have my robe, not in Bedford Falls anyway. Ouch,
Speaker 6: George fires a little fun here, give me my robe.
Speaker 6: I've read about things like this, but I never.
Speaker 3: Shame on you.
Speaker 6: I'm going to tell your mother on you. My mother's
Speaker 6: way up in the corner there. I called their way downtown.
Speaker 6: They'd be on my side too. Maybe I could sell
Speaker 6: kick it.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 6: All the point is in order to get this robe.
Speaker 1: I've got it. I'll make a deal with you.
Speaker 4: Mary.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You just thank god his dad had a stroke and died,
Speaker 3: because otherwise he could have taken a very dark turn
Speaker 3: that film. But yeah, they just his brother just happened
Speaker 3: to know exactly where he'd be, which potentially suggests this
Speaker 3: is all a ruse and he does this all the time.
Speaker 5: But he's got Yeah, it's she's just shaking the.
Speaker 3: Bush and the and the angry man across the road
Speaker 3: who ends up being their neighbor. I imagine he just
Speaker 3: keeps yelling at them for being loud.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then because he has a goal at them,
Speaker 2: he says kiss kiss her for Christ's sake, And then
Speaker 2: George Bailey instead of just going okay, I Will gets
Speaker 2: mad of him. It's like, you know, you got some
Speaker 2: you got some flirting issues going on here, George.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a hanging out film. It's just it's the
Speaker 3: pool to this scene where it's just kind of hanging out.
Speaker 3: It's very Judd Apatow he you know, like just sort
Speaker 3: of walking around doing stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is interesting like that that moment
Speaker 2: where George Bailey is decide whether they give he's.
Speaker 1: You know, the gown back.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: You know, you can make the argument that by that
Speaker 1: stage is it friendly. I don't you know.
Speaker 2: If you just seriously look at canceling this film as
Speaker 2: a result of that, I think you would make the
Speaker 2: argument that George Bailey is we assume, based on what
Speaker 2: we know of him, he's not really taking advantage of this.
Speaker 2: He's just having some fun and eventually he's going to
Speaker 2: give the bound back.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's right. It doesn't expect that it'll take his
Speaker 3: father dying to go back. But that's the circumstances.
Speaker 2: The building you got, so you got the So they
Speaker 2: go there and then they throw rocks at the apparently
Speaker 2: Donna reed. Actually they got a baseball player in to
Speaker 2: throw the stone and they gave her a shot and
Speaker 2: she actually she made the break the window.
Speaker 1: Great good on, Donna Reed, good arm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you think in the film she has a
Speaker 5: good throw. She has a good.
Speaker 1: Pitch, so Donna Reed. Sorry.
Speaker 2: George Bailey, open mouthed, kisses his mum. She says, go
Speaker 2: cut Sam's lunch. He goes over, he bumps into Violet
Speaker 2: and gets, you know, he pictures this kind of weird
Speaker 2: kind of night with her going hiking or something, and
Speaker 2: she cracks the shits with him. And then and then
Speaker 2: it gets weird because we assume he's going after Mary,
Speaker 2: but he just happens to bump in the Violet and
Speaker 2: that happens, and then he goes to see Mary and
Speaker 2: he's he's shitty, yeah, and she's up. She's playing the
Speaker 2: Buffalo Girls when you come out to night song, and
Speaker 2: and then he can down the gates herumpy, yeah, grumpy.
Speaker 3: These little grumpy moments throughout the film. What these films
Speaker 3: are cool in retrospect to look back at is just
Speaker 3: like the importance of marriage to people's lives, and like
Speaker 3: you hear about it with your grandparents and things where
Speaker 3: you just had to find your wife or your husband
Speaker 3: quick and start your life married. It was so important.
Speaker 3: I think also because there was a chastity was potentially
Speaker 3: still a bigger deal back then. There's lots of other things,
Speaker 3: but yeah, there you had to lock down and you
Speaker 3: had to make some big calls in your early twenties
Speaker 3: about who you're going to be spending.
Speaker 5: The rest of your life with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And obviously George Bailey wants to go
Speaker 3: and do things with his life, and constant thing for
Speaker 3: the film is he's always being held back. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a funny, it's a funny moment, and it's a
Speaker 3: you know, she's very nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very nice.
Speaker 2: You got mom on the stairs who you know, she's
Speaker 2: all about Sam in New York. Yeah, in the dressing
Speaker 2: gown and he goes over and he's got his grumpy
Speaker 2: on and she's doing her best to you know, not
Speaker 2: quite seduce him, but you know, like.
Speaker 3: Just be nice, be nice.
Speaker 2: And then so they think that that phone call scene
Speaker 2: happens where Sam does call after he leaves and she's
Speaker 2: broken the vinyl, not realizing how expensive, how much will
Speaker 2: how expensive vinyl will be in the future.
Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah, exact Buffalo girls sell for a huge, huge money.
Speaker 2: Hundreds of dollars, and he comes back and then she
Speaker 2: gets on he gets on the phone. This scene was
Speaker 2: shot and Jimmy Stewart is apparently extremely nervous about shooting this.
Speaker 2: It was the first kind of intimate scene he had
Speaker 2: shot because he.
Speaker 1: When served in the war.
Speaker 2: In World War Two, he was a pilot and served
Speaker 2: in the war, and I think I'm not sure it
Speaker 2: was his first film back from post war, but it
Speaker 2: was his first intimate scene he had shot. So he
Speaker 2: was extremely nervous about this, and I think I think
Speaker 2: they may have done anthing one in one take.
Speaker 3: It the weird kissing. He hadn't kissed anyone for years.
Speaker 3: I hate doing it too. There was a bit in
Speaker 3: our show where one of my best friends, Michelle Brazier
Speaker 3: is in the show and I had to kiss her
Speaker 3: on the hand, like, you know, like to seduce her.
Speaker 3: And I hate it, particularly if it's a friend. I
Speaker 3: can't even like, I can't even imagine having to be
Speaker 3: sincere on camera and do an emotional kiss like I
Speaker 3: would be like that, exactly the same as Jimmy. I have.
Speaker 2: So I do a serious card how to say married,
Speaker 2: and in that I married Lisa mcewn. It all started
Speaker 2: on the episode of It's a Date, and that was
Speaker 2: we enjoyed working together so much. We spun it off
Speaker 2: into they married and and writing It's.
Speaker 1: A Date episode. At the end, they was supposed to
Speaker 1: be a kiss.
Speaker 2: There's going to be a kiss, and I because I've
Speaker 2: come to acting, I feel like through a side door. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I've always kind of thought, you know, acting,
Speaker 2: you know, I like the idea of acting, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily the first thing I wanted to do. I'm
Speaker 2: not trained, and I just, you know, I just have
Speaker 2: been lucky enough to do it. So my wife didn't
Speaker 2: marry an actor. Yeah, she married a guy who tells
Speaker 2: dick jokes on stage.
Speaker 3: She's just he's moved his career towards kissing kissing people.
Speaker 3: She's seen that happen exactly.
Speaker 1: She knows. She knows.
Speaker 2: I created the show, I directs some of the episodes.
Speaker 2: I produced the show, and I'm you know, I'm the
Speaker 2: lead in the show.
Speaker 3: I was talking to Luke McGregor about this the other day,
Speaker 3: about when you write a show and do exactly that
Speaker 3: and then you've got kissing in it and you're you
Speaker 3: feel so particularly as a comedian as well, where yes,
Speaker 3: where you run your empire, essentially you feel like such
Speaker 3: a grub. And but all actors, like real actors like
Speaker 3: Lisa mchune are just so professional and it does doesn't
Speaker 3: matter what.
Speaker 2: Something Lisa who will suggest it. She goes, we should
Speaker 2: they should kiss here, like and even once in the
Speaker 2: first season it happened a couple of times where it
Speaker 2: was like on set Lisa would say, I think they
Speaker 2: should kiss.
Speaker 3: Here, and I was like, oh, I think they would
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: I have so in the series of its to date
Speaker 2: instead of at the end. I was trying to avoid
Speaker 2: because it's like a one off show. So I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, I was handled this moment and then I
Speaker 2: won't have to worry about it again. And so it
Speaker 2: worked out well because Lisa's character was drunk, so we went,
Speaker 2: we go to kiss, and then she throws up on
Speaker 2: me and it's like a really funny she did.
Speaker 1: Lisa was amazing.
Speaker 2: It was a great kind of you know, explanation point
Speaker 2: to the episode.
Speaker 1: And then without knowing that it was going.
Speaker 2: To go to series so often mus in the house
Speaker 2: they married, there's about to be a kiss and it
Speaker 2: gets it gets thwarted.
Speaker 1: By by something. But we have also discussed that.
Speaker 2: You know, like if you watch something modern family, you're
Speaker 2: not like you're seeing those characters kiss all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's something.
Speaker 5: So if it's a marriage, so they're never kissing.
Speaker 2: There's a bit of that, and and also that when
Speaker 2: you eventually if they do, it should mean something.
Speaker 1: Sure it should have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Brady Bunch is too much kissing, you know,
Speaker 3: like that's you know, the aspirational seventies family, like it's
Speaker 3: too happy.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I I get Jimmy in that moment,
Speaker 3: and like I can see him potentially going I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna have to go for it. And that's why it's
Speaker 3: so like just overly passionate and like there's a he
Speaker 3: went through a war energy to that to that embrace
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: I wonder what Sam was thinking on the other end
Speaker 1: because they just dropped the phone on the other end.
Speaker 2: So and then they basically they get married. They get married,
Speaker 2: and yeah, and they hop in a taxi hopping a taxi.
Speaker 2: They've got the world in front of them. They do
Speaker 2: a good job. I mean, it's it's a little bit
Speaker 2: HAMPI is at times. You know, Jimmy's the travel brochures
Speaker 2: that he gets out occasionally to show Egypt or you know,
Speaker 2: Italy that he keeps.
Speaker 1: But you know it is it is effective.
Speaker 2: It does remind me of It reminded me of if
Speaker 2: you've seen Waiting for Guffman. Yeah, is it Waiting for Guffman?
Speaker 2: Or best when when the travel agents who have never
Speaker 2: left town, isn't it they never left town? It's so good,
Speaker 2: they're great. Yes, the two things I like. That scene
Speaker 2: for me felt like when you have a.
Speaker 3: Bad dream or a nightmare where you're doing something and
Speaker 3: then you look to the right and you know, the
Speaker 3: entire cast of the Netflix my Netflix show is here
Speaker 3: and you've got to shoot it now and we haven't
Speaker 3: written the lines, you know, like it's got that you're
Speaker 3: on your honeymoon. You turn to the right and the
Speaker 3: great Depression is happening and you've got to go to
Speaker 3: work and give people money.
Speaker 5: It felt it feels like a nightmare.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really affected and upset me that whole run, like,
Speaker 3: oh oh no.
Speaker 2: He's never going to get out of the Bedford Falls
Speaker 2: and so yeah, he goes there to the Building and
Speaker 2: Loan company, which is not necessarily an effective business, but
Speaker 2: it plays an important role in the community. I would say,
Speaker 2: maybe don't have a raven at the front desk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's baby business.
Speaker 2: Apparently a raven that I think that raven. I think
Speaker 2: he's called Jimmy. The raven appears in all of Frank
Speaker 2: Capra's film Post nineteen thirty eight.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 1: It's an Easter egg involved.
Speaker 3: That's really fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This is also the scene where the Simpsons reference that
Speaker 3: I didn't realize was a it's a wonderful life reference,
Speaker 3: which is, I don't have your money. It's earned the
Speaker 3: Bell's house, When's house, which is in some episode Jimmy
Speaker 3: Stewart just shows up at a bank when Bart's put
Speaker 3: out the rumor that the bank's run out of money,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 5: Jimmy show, I don't have a remind just out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it's a Yes, there's all these little
Speaker 3: like little things in this film, and it's why it's such.
Speaker 3: It made me cry then, as all these great things
Speaker 3: have a reason for existing. These minis Is it a
Speaker 3: book is?
Speaker 2: Apparently it was based on a Christmas card. Funnily enough, yeah,
Speaker 2: a Christmas Christmas card. But what I've read, there's a
Speaker 2: couple of conflicting stories about what I read. It was
Speaker 2: like a it was almost like a twenty one page
Speaker 2: Christmas card. So it's almost like, yeah, like a fable
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, yeah, so, uh, it was based on that.
Speaker 2: So what moment did made you made you tear up?
Speaker 2: Was it just was it the old length sign at
Speaker 2: the end or was it.
Speaker 3: It's that idea? I think it was just looking at
Speaker 3: what the film is saying, because I think the film
Speaker 3: is obviously saying, and it's I think it's a film
Speaker 3: about potentially it's about America and looking at this year
Speaker 3: in Australia, you know, in the world in twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: and the feeling that we all have forgetting through this
Speaker 3: year and we all feel like we've survived something. Can
Speaker 3: you imagine being a human being who lived through World
Speaker 3: War One, Spanish Flu, Great Depression, World War two and
Speaker 3: you get to the other side of it and you say,
Speaker 3: we made it, and here we are and we've survived.
Speaker 3: And I think the film is saying, look what we've
Speaker 3: been through. And if you're a good person, if you're
Speaker 3: a nice person, and you look after people, we will
Speaker 3: all be okay. So essentially what the film's saying. And
Speaker 3: when I and that message, I thought was I think
Speaker 3: what brought me that lovely thought that if you are
Speaker 3: nice to people, and you are selfless and you care
Speaker 3: for people, then people will be nice.
Speaker 1: Back to you.
Speaker 3: That's just a lovely, lovely thought. But hell me, current.
Speaker 6: Got me back, got me back, I don't care what
Speaker 6: happens to me, got me back to my wife and kids.
Speaker 3: He retires, Please please, I wouldn't live again. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: live again.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't live again. Please God, let me live again.
Speaker 4: Hey, George, George, you all right?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 4: What's the matter?
Speaker 6: I get out of here? Bert, I'll hit you again.
Speaker 1: Get out of here? What the same hell you yelling for?
Speaker 6: George, George? Bert?
Speaker 1: You know me, know you you're kidding.
Speaker 6: I've been looking all over town trying to find you.
Speaker 1: I saw your car pile into.
Speaker 6: That tree down there, and I thought, maybe you Hey,
Speaker 6: your mouse bleeding?
Speaker 1: Are you sure you are right?
Speaker 4: What you My mouse bleeding bird?
Speaker 3: My mouse bleeding zuzuo pedals? There they are?
Speaker 4: Bird?
Speaker 3: What do you know about that?
Speaker 1: Rry christ Well Mary Chris Woods?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And yeah, and the impact of the individual,
Speaker 2: you know, the individual can have is is really it's
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, it is extremely timely. It has been
Speaker 2: interesting watching movies in twenty twenty and realize and making
Speaker 2: you know, dots that obviously you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: you weren't there when they made the film, like Jaws
Speaker 2: is an example of Jaws is almost an example underlie
Speaker 2: the corola of like twenty twenty and how to respond
Speaker 2: to the tragedy. Do you close the beach for the
Speaker 2: sake of the economy or health? Is health versus the economy?
Speaker 2: It's exactly yes, of course.
Speaker 3: I think we've had a long time of having it
Speaker 3: pretty good, you know, at least in Australia. And it's
Speaker 3: these moments that are bigger than you are. You know,
Speaker 3: they what they do to you and the community and
Speaker 3: you as a person like profound.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what do you think of Clarence.
Speaker 5: Well, he had a big impact on me because I
Speaker 5: don't know who that.
Speaker 1: Is Clarence is.
Speaker 2: Clarence played the reasoningly important role of the Angel.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, I thought he was cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought at this I wasn't buying him when
Speaker 3: he first came in and then I came around to him.
Speaker 3: I thought, actually, as I was watching it, the scene
Speaker 3: in the bar where he doesn't know a toater, I
Speaker 3: thought was a really cool performance. I really enjoyed that,
Speaker 3: that whole performance. If you if you're doing this movie now,
Speaker 3: it would be or not. You know, he's a will Smith,
Speaker 3: Robin Williams, you know, like wacky sidekick, but it's just
Speaker 3: a pleasant kind of old man. Was kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because at first, when you know they're drying their
Speaker 2: clothes and he's just telling them, you know everything, I.
Speaker 1: Thought, Oh, is that the way to go? Is that?
Speaker 2: And I thought he's tactic of jumping in the water
Speaker 2: was a slightly strange one. And I do wonder George
Speaker 2: Bailey is about to end his life by jumping off
Speaker 2: the bridge. What's the difference between jumping off with the
Speaker 2: intention of ending your life and jumping in to save somebody?
Speaker 2: There's the water, no that you're going with better into
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 3: Well, I thought the idea of not to get too
Speaker 3: dark but to offer bridge is that you impact kills you, yes,
Speaker 3: And if you can just jump in and swim around,
Speaker 3: is that.
Speaker 5: The best way to do it?
Speaker 3: Because you know the bridge is clearly only a couple
Speaker 3: of meters and he goes he does a beautiful dive.
Speaker 2: It's a lovely points, no splash. He goes in with
Speaker 2: the hands together. Yeah, maybe maybe that's it.
Speaker 3: Did It did occur to me it later not to
Speaker 3: get too grim and they should have frozen to death.
Speaker 3: He shouldn't have been able to he would have frozen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: surely if it was if it was that cold, that
Speaker 3: it's you know, a blizzard or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's in the end up at this watchhouse where the
Speaker 2: watchman who was there, he wasn't looking out for George
Speaker 2: Bayley on the.
Speaker 1: Bridge moments earlier. But it is nicer to go back
Speaker 1: actually to the tott.
Speaker 2: One of the things they do set up is the
Speaker 2: him being deaf in one ear, because you kind of go, well, okay,
Speaker 2: that's just the little detail, and that's some stages through
Speaker 2: the film you kind of realize that maybe that he's
Speaker 2: just he's just having fun with that. But then there's
Speaker 2: a reason for there's a reason, and you can't you
Speaker 2: can't go to war. It kind of reminded me of
Speaker 2: a little mis Sunshine with Pordino's character. You can't become
Speaker 2: a pilot because he's color blind.
Speaker 5: That's yes, yes, no, that's that's off right.
Speaker 3: I thought it was just because it's a thing that
Speaker 3: they can, you know, very clearly get rid of when
Speaker 3: he becomes, when he doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, it is a lovely thing
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, all those things that do happen are really
Speaker 2: nicely nice.
Speaker 3: It's a nice symbol of selflessness as well. I think
Speaker 3: because he's definitely one here because he saved his brother. Yes, ye,
Speaker 3: shovel the shovel sledding looked awesome. Yeah, it would have
Speaker 3: would have hurt your bum, but.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to gone too many times on it.
Speaker 2: I think it's a one off kind of right.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Once Sam Sam nearly drowns, he's a brother, Harry, Harry,
Speaker 2: Harry SAMs the bloke New York. Once Harry nearly drowns,
Speaker 2: Mumpody calls everyone in. Yeah, all right, that's enough, that's enough.
Speaker 2: I told you no more.
Speaker 3: In the Frozen Lake.
Speaker 2: So George we find out that George's it works is
Speaker 2: when he finds out that you know, did did you
Speaker 2: think he took the right amount of time to believe
Speaker 2: what was going on?
Speaker 5: It's a long it was along of not buying in.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in these movies you want them to just buy
Speaker 3: in because we you know, you want you want to
Speaker 3: buy in pretty quickly back to the Future the other day,
Speaker 3: it was exactly the same way. He's walking around for
Speaker 3: a long time not buying in, Like Michael, you're in
Speaker 3: nineteen fifty five, all right, okay, just accept it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: he has gone for a long time. But it's fine.
Speaker 3: That's fine because yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Like in you know, if you're writing it, of course
Speaker 2: you're not going to make him believe it straight away.
Speaker 2: I mean it is wasting some good you know, some
Speaker 2: good scenes, I think. But yeah, the scene in the
Speaker 2: bar is at formerly Martinez now Nix and Nick the bartender.
Speaker 3: Is who is that actor? Because he's impersonated in lots
Speaker 3: of things. I feel like that, like.
Speaker 1: That get out there, Yeah calls them.
Speaker 2: He is a producer by the name of Sheldon Turner,
Speaker 2: I believe right Weirdly, funnily enough, Berton Ernie did not
Speaker 2: inspire those names for Sesame Street, but Sheldon Turner inspired
Speaker 2: two of the names in The Big Bang Theory. In
Speaker 2: Sheldon and I Believe there's a watch Big Bang Theory
Speaker 2: but there you go, there you go.
Speaker 3: So it's really fun.
Speaker 2: It is, and then you know and you find out
Speaker 2: that chemist comes in and you find out that if
Speaker 2: George Bailey wouldn't have young, George wouldn't have said.
Speaker 1: Those catlets are poison going out. So there's another This
Speaker 1: is the box.
Speaker 3: There's thirty minutes left in the film. I remember looking
Speaker 3: at it and going, this huge part of the film.
Speaker 3: If you were to make this film now, they would
Speaker 3: have made this have to have to happen at the
Speaker 3: end of the first act. Yeah, this moment, but it
Speaker 3: doesn't you And it's so rewarding because you have this.
Speaker 3: I feel like it kept you engaged enough in these
Speaker 3: just little moments and stories through George's life that when
Speaker 3: you have this fun, really awesome turn, you get all
Speaker 3: this reward from grounding it in the real world. I
Speaker 3: thought it was fun. Yeah, the payoffs are huge.
Speaker 2: I kind of thought when he got to the car,
Speaker 2: or that the car wasn't there and the tree hadn't
Speaker 2: been hit, that was probably the moment where you thought, Okay,
Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm on board here.
Speaker 3: This is when the car when he hits the car
Speaker 3: into the tree and the guy goes, this is a
Speaker 3: good you ruin my good tree. I was like, this
Speaker 3: is a very like nineteen forties, you know, things are
Speaker 3: okay kind of time, like.
Speaker 2: Great grandfather planted that he ruined my good tree, and
Speaker 2: we you know, and Potter Bedford falls in that is
Speaker 2: Pottersville and the buildings and loans is no more.
Speaker 3: Why was it called Pottersville? Now I missed that well,
Speaker 3: I imagine because Potter he now owns the town. He owns,
Speaker 3: you know, owns it all right, So he's become a
Speaker 3: super super villain.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's mister Burns.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I keep going back to Back to the future,
Speaker 3: but he's become biff Land.
Speaker 1: There is nothing wrong with going back to the back
Speaker 1: of the future.
Speaker 2: And I think Mark Bailey doesn't recognize him. Harry Harry
Speaker 2: died because he wasn't there to rescue him from the
Speaker 2: you know. In he goes to the cemetery, there's a
Speaker 2: nice little easter egg. The movie that's playing is The
Speaker 2: Bells of Saint Mary, which started being crosby Ingrid Bergman
Speaker 2: and Henry Travers.
Speaker 1: Henry Travers is Clarence the angel in the movie.
Speaker 5: Is that in Pottersville? Or is that in when it's
Speaker 5: Bedford Falls.
Speaker 1: That is. I think it's actually when it becomes Bedford
Speaker 1: Falls again.
Speaker 3: Right, because I was going to say when he goes
Speaker 3: through the town and everything's a everything's.
Speaker 1: A strip club or a launch shop or.
Speaker 3: The place really takes a really bad time just you know,
Speaker 3: it's just very sex positive. You could argue that, you know,
Speaker 3: Pottersville has just really open the sexuality now and you
Speaker 3: know it's just it's.
Speaker 2: So, is there something you would revisit again? Is there
Speaker 2: something you were going to go back to, you know,
Speaker 2: you know when you have kids, or.
Speaker 3: Is it never? Never the uncle never take eight grand
Speaker 3: in an envelope and then just start picking up newspapers
Speaker 3: and stuff and then give it to the most evil
Speaker 3: man in town. Never do that.
Speaker 2: It is it is a warning against nepotism. Uncle Billy
Speaker 2: should not be trusted. Interestingly, it never gets resolved, does it, No,
Speaker 2: Like you don't, he never gets his come up.
Speaker 3: And no, I thought it was interesting that the last
Speaker 3: time you see him is George just saying and it's
Speaker 3: probably a nice message if you were to show it
Speaker 3: to kids. Is just he just says Merry Christmas to
Speaker 3: him through the window, And that's it just ends on
Speaker 3: all the best to you. Yeah, And I think that's
Speaker 3: the nicest thing is so often through the film, just
Speaker 3: the way that James Stewart handles himself as just this pleasant,
Speaker 3: lovely man who just wants to help people, and that
Speaker 3: he you know, is the nice message of the film.
Speaker 3: But also that film that the bank scene just like
Speaker 3: deeply deeply upset me. Oh no, no, no, just the.
Speaker 1: Uncle Billy loses the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, and he took him a while to
Speaker 2: realize too.
Speaker 4: Is it that?
Speaker 2: And he never quite clicked that. He went back and
Speaker 2: he's looking under the desk and he never quite clicked. Okay,
Speaker 2: I did speak to that. I never mentioned it to anyone.
Speaker 2: I spoke the potter. Maybe that was clearly when you're
Speaker 2: a newspaper you should he's going down the street. The
Speaker 2: one thing I was curious about, and maybe it's result
Speaker 2: in the film, but I missed it, is he does
Speaker 2: James Stewart just have like because he needs eight grand
Speaker 2: to cover the loss, and then I feel like people
Speaker 2: bring him more than enough like money, so like maybe
Speaker 2: like say they the town brought like five grand.
Speaker 5: Let's be safe, right.
Speaker 3: And then the Sam Wainwright gives him twenty five grands,
Speaker 3: So now he's what, he's twenty two grand up, making
Speaker 3: a killer, he's in twenty two and then the does
Speaker 3: the bank man come over and he rips up the
Speaker 3: debt as well, So now he's thirty grand up? Is
Speaker 3: that right? And why if he was going to jail
Speaker 3: for something as serious as being eight grand in debt,
Speaker 3: why why is he so he just has friends come
Speaker 3: over and the guy's are, oh, may as well just
Speaker 3: not have eight grand? Is that what happened?
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened.
Speaker 5: So he ends up thirty grand up.
Speaker 3: Like if all the people who are being generous, they're
Speaker 3: generalerosity was enough for them to tear up the debts,
Speaker 3: so you should all just take your money home again mate,
Speaker 3: And he's twenty five grand up from the ex boyfriend, Like,
Speaker 3: so is that what happened?
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened.
Speaker 3: That's great, Well, that's awesome that he's just rich.
Speaker 1: Now that's why you should you should host Christmas parties.
Speaker 3: But he should have been more careful, like just like,
Speaker 3: don't tell him about the twenty five grand yet, wait
Speaker 3: till everyone leaves, because we'll get all this money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't read out the twenty five grand and say, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just a note from Sam. He just wants to
Speaker 2: say Merry Christmas. Yeah, let's put it in my pocket.
Speaker 2: That's really good. That's twenty five grand in nineteen forty six,
Speaker 2: is what like?
Speaker 1: Well, the when Potter offers him, what is Potter offer him?
Speaker 5: He obfers him. Is it what he offers him? At
Speaker 5: twenty grand?
Speaker 1: Job a year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a year, and that I think works out to be,
Speaker 2: judging with inflation, something like three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Good job, good job.
Speaker 2: So Sam has just given him three hundred He owes
Speaker 2: he eighth grand, which might have been fifty ground these days,
Speaker 2: and he ends up with around just from Sam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's done very well.
Speaker 5: Yes, but he's been selfless.
Speaker 3: He took his two grand that he was going to
Speaker 3: have on his entire holiday and gave it back to
Speaker 3: the community and everything.
Speaker 2: So he does deserve a good break. Nobody feels bad
Speaker 2: about George landing on his feet. The old Lang sign
Speaker 2: is that song. I have an emotional reaction to it.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Yeah, but that song, more than
Speaker 2: any of the carols or the older songs, gets me
Speaker 2: for some reason.
Speaker 3: When Harry met Sally. It's the end of When Harry
Speaker 3: Met Sally as well, And.
Speaker 2: It's in a little movie I used to watch a lot,
Speaker 2: Can't Buy Me Love with Patrick Dempsey, and there's just
Speaker 2: a scene where everything is hit kind of rock bottom.
Speaker 2: He's been kind of found out and he's walking around
Speaker 2: looking into other New Year's Eve parties and with a
Speaker 2: little bit misty eyed and old Lang signs playing. And
Speaker 2: maybe that was the first time I saw it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was.
Speaker 2: It's a Wonderful life actually because I watched it when
Speaker 2: I was quite I was quite young, But that that song.
Speaker 5: It's Christmas as well, all Christmas.
Speaker 3: It's why Christmas is so special, is it's nostalgia and
Speaker 3: connection and family and these song songs and pieces of art,
Speaker 3: it just like really bottle them. Yeah, the closest we
Speaker 3: can get to bottling moments, and so, yeah, songs like
Speaker 3: that just bring up so many things. Every Christmas song, yeah,
Speaker 3: even and often it can just be from an ad
Speaker 3: or something like that, and you carry it forever.
Speaker 1: So definitely you understand why it's a classic.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent. I thought it was.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, what would you do if you remade
Speaker 3: this film, how would you go about it? But I
Speaker 3: think it genuinely just holds up and you wouldn't even dare.
Speaker 3: I think it's huge testament to I think James Stewart
Speaker 3: is an actor, and how much longevity it has and
Speaker 3: and but yeah, I thought it was really really cool
Speaker 3: and it's I was surprised at how interesting the storytelling
Speaker 3: was and how different the storytelling was and how often
Speaker 3: you just don't see films that anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we let you go Arnie Donald's Big Old
Speaker 2: House of Fun. Congratulations. I know we had used on it,
Speaker 2: but it is.
Speaker 1: We do it.
Speaker 3: We do a Christmas turn. I was just thinking like
Speaker 3: this film as well, where one episode we just end
Speaker 3: and it's Christmas, so you know, we're just like, it's
Speaker 3: a wonderful life.
Speaker 2: What was what was the experience like going over there?
Speaker 2: I know it was it was to have this experience.
Speaker 2: I know you had to keep it quiet. Yeah, for
Speaker 2: a long time, but.
Speaker 5: That's yeah, that you'll you'll appreciate this.
Speaker 3: But we we've got the call from Netflix like two
Speaker 3: years ago saying hey, this is on, and we couldn't
Speaker 3: tell people. Took a year to start happening. And then
Speaker 3: another year to make it and we couldn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: I couldn't talk about it till November, so a month ago,
Speaker 3: and just being able to not walk around. Our fan
Speaker 3: base is going whit you're making content anymore. We're going mate.
Speaker 3: We have so much content about to come out. But
Speaker 3: it was an incredible experience. Like all we've wanted to
Speaker 3: do since we start was make a TV show. We
Speaker 3: grew up loving comedy shows and you know, Ski House
Speaker 3: and other shows, and and that's all we've ever wanted
Speaker 3: to do, and it's been hard to try and get
Speaker 3: to that point. And this was the best version of it.
Speaker 3: We've got flown to America who were given houses and
Speaker 3: cars and like just wrote comedy and put it on
Speaker 3: and had a really nice budget for it.
Speaker 5: We got to do exactly what we wanted.
Speaker 3: We had a weird Ol Yankovic and all these other
Speaker 3: idols we looked up to in the show, and it
Speaker 3: was it was sometimes when you make a TV show,
Speaker 3: you've got to kind of change your voice or broaden it,
Speaker 3: or do something a little bit different than what you've
Speaker 3: done in the past. And we were allowed to just
Speaker 3: make like our show that was really just our voice
Speaker 3: and that was the coolest thing to do. So we
Speaker 3: have the show out now and you know, the response
Speaker 3: has been really lovely and positive and I'm proud to
Speaker 3: say that it's I'm proud of it too, and I
Speaker 3: like what we made.
Speaker 2: You should be anything and then talk about making it
Speaker 2: keeping it in Arnie Donna's voice, even though you know
Speaker 2: you're making it for Netflix and it's going to go
Speaker 2: out around the world. Still you know, Nain jobbing, Grant DNA. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's all these obviously very Australian references that.
Speaker 3: You've kept, Yeah, because like it matters to people from
Speaker 3: Australia that we are Australian and it matters that they
Speaker 3: hear their voice in comedy. And for people ever sees,
Speaker 3: they're just like, I don't know what they're talking about,
Speaker 3: but I like the energy of it. A lot of
Speaker 3: the time we've been talking out for there's there's a
Speaker 3: thing that maybe you'll only understand, but we throw away
Speaker 3: to a prize. You know what prizes does this person get?
Speaker 3: And it's literally just doing the Sunday Morning Footy Show,
Speaker 3: lose handball prizes like a quilla shoes four and twenty
Speaker 3: pive and it's literally for like dorks who watched the
Speaker 3: handball competition on Sunday mornings on the Footy Show in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: It is so great.
Speaker 2: It is great that, you know, despite the pandemic and
Speaker 2: despite you know, often I have experience experience, but you've
Speaker 2: got the phone call saying we make Netflix's you know,
Speaker 2: we're doing this. I had a similar call with it's
Speaker 2: a date that HBO like HBO we're taking it on
Speaker 2: and with Sarah Jessica Parker's production company.
Speaker 1: So I remember where I was.
Speaker 2: I was on the way to the project and I
Speaker 2: pulled over and you know, I had I had, you know,
Speaker 2: the one of the producers from that company say, you know,
Speaker 2: you're you're welcome to HBO.
Speaker 1: You're we're doing a HBO show. And I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't really go and tell everyone because
Speaker 2: you know, he's still you know, it's yeah, of course,
Speaker 2: and they just through, we got writers on board and
Speaker 2: and they just we couldn't quite agree on the script.
Speaker 2: And then then there's a changing of the guard of
Speaker 2: HBO and it kind of just kind of it got
Speaker 2: and eventually and they you know, we there was all
Speaker 2: these cuts at HBO as far as like projects that
Speaker 2: they kind of whenever a new person comes on, it's
Speaker 2: it's dangerous because they want they want to kind of
Speaker 2: clear the slate to an extent. And so they were like, listen,
Speaker 2: we already have you know, Vice Principles and Veep and
Speaker 2: Silicon Valley shows. We think are going to run for
Speaker 2: the next few years. We don't think it's a date.
Speaker 2: We'll be up in the next two years, so go explore, yeah,
Speaker 2: other options, and we you know, we had we had
Speaker 2: interests were popped for a little while, which does shit's
Speaker 2: creak and it just and it just has like ping
Speaker 2: balled around and it's like that for that moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'm so stoked for you guys to have that
Speaker 2: moment and the spider pandemic actually go and do it.
Speaker 1: Incredible.
Speaker 3: We were very, very very lucky. It was It literally
Speaker 3: is with Hollywood. It's such a up in the air,
Speaker 3: one in a million chants with those people sometimes and
Speaker 3: like exactly that like we had moments where I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe it might not happen now, and then it was
Speaker 3: back on and it was literally two years of gut
Speaker 3: gut clenched, like churning of just like, hope this just
Speaker 3: falls somewhere and we can do this. So yeah, people
Speaker 3: are like to us, like, oh, you're going to make
Speaker 3: a season two is like mate, getting to this point
Speaker 3: was that's I'm just happy we got to this point.
Speaker 1: It's sometimes that's with how to stay married.
Speaker 2: Like we got on, you know, a commercial network with
Speaker 2: a half hour sitcom, which hasn't happened in so long,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I just want to get
Speaker 2: you know, if we get a second season. I mean,
Speaker 2: I did one a second season, but I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm grateful that we got a first one.
Speaker 2: We kind of had a weird kind of first season
Speaker 2: where we were at the end of rating, so we
Speaker 2: kind of the first few weeks were great and then
Speaker 2: rating so we lost all our support around the show,
Speaker 2: like mass Chef kind of wasn't on anymore, and we
Speaker 2: kind of dipped a bit, and.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, we're going to get the second season.
Speaker 2: We got one the second season, and I said my manager,
Speaker 2: there's no expectation of a third season because the sitcom
Speaker 2: on a strained television on the network just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: And we got and and we second season went really well.
Speaker 2: So we're now shooting in feb for a third season. Awesome,
Speaker 2: and it's and again it's like, I can't quite believe
Speaker 2: it's happening because the last Austraiants sitcom on a commercial.
Speaker 1: Network and it was it was a crop I think
Speaker 1: it was a cropliss.
Speaker 5: Now that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Which is like, which is I was doing a joke
Speaker 3: and my joke was maybe three years old.
Speaker 2: Jo, it really was, and those around that time. And
Speaker 2: this is not including Kathin King, which went from the
Speaker 2: ABC and then with the Channel seven for a year
Speaker 2: or two. Like that's not including that, but as far
Speaker 2: as starting on a commercial network and you had because
Speaker 2: you had Hey Dad, and then altogether now and the
Speaker 2: Cropolis now and then like nothing after that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's I would love to see us make more scripted comedy.
Speaker 3: That would be awesome.
Speaker 1: But congratulates, but it is.
Speaker 2: It is a fantastic Serieseter get on Netflix only done
Speaker 2: his big old House of Fun. You've got celebrity cameos
Speaker 2: from Jerry Seinfeld and generous.
Speaker 1: It is Razario.
Speaker 2: Dawson, who is one always awesome but has had a
Speaker 2: big week because you appeared in the Mandalorian and nailed it.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're a Mandalorian. No, but in a
Speaker 2: big in a big role, which is highly anticipated by fans.
Speaker 2: She smashed it.
Speaker 5: Oh really, I do want to watch Magdala, a.
Speaker 2: Character who has only been in the animated series of
Speaker 2: Star Wars has never been in live action.
Speaker 3: Which which series animated series? We just one of the
Speaker 3: animated One of the comic writers of Star Wars reached
Speaker 3: out and said he was a fan the other day,
Speaker 3: so we're.
Speaker 1: Trying to right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's it's because I don't watch the animation
Speaker 2: is either it's either rebels or clone walks.
Speaker 3: So I think that's gonna be my Christmas watch Mandalorian
Speaker 3: because there's new good movies coming out, and usually I
Speaker 3: want to watch something cooler.
Speaker 2: In Mandlorian is great. Thank you mate for watching, you
Speaker 2: for doing your homework. You got it interesting time.
Speaker 3: If you haven't watched it, watch it at Christmas. Is
Speaker 3: an awesome watch. I'm really happy I did.
Speaker 2: Thanks mate, that was a whole bunch of fun with
Speaker 2: Browden CALLI. Oh there you go, he got his wings.
Speaker 2: Congratulations Broden. Thanks for joining us. That's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a reward for doing your homework and watching It's
Speaker 2: a Wonderful Life for us on you ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2: I just want to also point out I forgot to
Speaker 2: mention it when I was chatting the broad and that
Speaker 2: It's a Wonderful Life actually bombed tanked at the box
Speaker 2: office when it opened in nineteen forty six, and it
Speaker 2: kind of disappeared for a while from public consciousness because
Speaker 2: it had all these copyright issues and as a result,
Speaker 2: it was didn't really appear much until the copyright issues
Speaker 2: were kind of resolved and it became available in the
Speaker 2: seventies and PBS I think we're the first to jump
Speaker 2: jump in on it, and because it was basically free,
Speaker 2: the other networks were you know, buying up more expensive
Speaker 2: fair and they were able to play It's a Wonderful Life,
Speaker 2: and slowly it kind of kind of found its audience
Speaker 2: and people started discovering it, and the word of mouth
Speaker 2: grew and then eventually, you know, all the networks were
Speaker 2: playing it until of the nineties. I think it was
Speaker 2: where NBC officially purchased the rights for its A Wonderful
Speaker 2: Life and now played I think twice a year between
Speaker 2: Christmas and year.
Speaker 1: Also, there's another bit of information. It was interesting.
Speaker 2: I thought, which I forgot to mention, was that in
Speaker 2: the original script there was actually no Potter character. When
Speaker 2: George Bailey went back, he actually it wasn't Potter. It
Speaker 2: was like an evil version of himself. It was like
Speaker 2: an evil George Bailey. So that was I also thought
Speaker 2: it was interesting. I want to thank everyone for your letters.
Speaker 2: I had a wonderful letter from cath Upham and I
Speaker 2: just want to read some of this out. Hey, Pete,
Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying your Yasny podcast.
Speaker 1: Recently.
Speaker 2: I was listening to an episode while I was walking
Speaker 2: my dog as I usually do, and I was around
Speaker 2: a time of the twelvemonth anniversary of my mum's death,
Speaker 2: which got me thinking of my movie experiences with mum.
Speaker 2: One I thought Old Share is a classic sibling tale.
Speaker 2: The first movie I ever saw at a cinema was
Speaker 2: Et I was eight years old. It was in regional Queensland.
Speaker 2: It was a big deal because she graub in regional
Speaker 2: Queensland on the sugar cane farm, and there were so
Speaker 2: many hurdles to overcome from being allowed to go, who
Speaker 2: would take me, how to get into town? Very common
Speaker 2: themes growing up in regional Australia. So one of my
Speaker 2: older brothers was home from college at the time and
Speaker 2: he volunteered to take me to see the movie. It
Speaker 2: was a Friday night. Our town of Childers only showed
Speaker 2: movies on a Friday night, always a double feature, usually
Speaker 2: a kid's movie first, followed by an adult movie so
Speaker 2: the younger kids could get collected at intermission. So off
Speaker 2: I go with my brother. He was under strict instructions
Speaker 2: from my parents to look after me, so he takes
Speaker 2: me to the cinema, walks around until I point out
Speaker 2: some kids I know from school, so he takes the
Speaker 2: opportunity and deposits me with them and says, I'm going
Speaker 2: to the pub now, I'll meet you at the front
Speaker 2: at intermission. Never breathe a word of this to Mum
Speaker 2: if she asked, I was with you the whole time,
Speaker 2: and I never did tell Mum because it was the
Speaker 2: best night ever being left unsupervised. And why would you
Speaker 2: ever risk that happening again if you ever find yourself
Speaker 2: doing a road tip in Queensland. That theater we saw
Speaker 2: my first movie and every movie there after until I
Speaker 2: left home for UNI. It's the nineteen twenties heritage classic
Speaker 2: that you should visit. It still has the canvas seats
Speaker 2: and a slope wooden floor that we did use to
Speaker 2: roll jaffers and coke bottles down during the movies. It's
Speaker 2: called the Paragon Theater. It's in Childers, which you may
Speaker 2: know from the Tragic Backpack of Fire and for movie fans,
Speaker 2: it is a pretty amazing piece of history. You can
Speaker 2: check it out at Paragontheater dot com dot au. It
Speaker 2: does look absolutely beautiful. I would love to visit there.
Speaker 2: Thanks for doing the podcast. It sparks joy cheers, Kat.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Kat.
Speaker 2: That is a wonderful email to get. You can get
Speaker 2: me at Yasney Podcast at gmail dot com. I hope
Speaker 2: you're enjoying it. I'm loving the reaction and the community
Speaker 2: we are building with this. Yes, I think Derek Mai
Speaker 2: is my podcast manager Caswaystudios dot com dot au. If
Speaker 2: you trying to get that podcast up and running, Derek
Speaker 2: is the man to speak to. And lastly, I just
Speaker 2: want to wish everyone a very merry Christmas. What a
Speaker 2: dumpster fire of a year it has been, but I
Speaker 2: just want to say we got through it and we
Speaker 2: deserve to be around at Christmas table together with our
Speaker 2: families and friends and loved ones. So let's have a
Speaker 2: big one. I was really keen to do its Wonderful
Speaker 2: Life for Christmas. So I'm glad we've done that, and yeah,
Speaker 2: have the best Christmas imaginable. And the podcast will be
Speaker 2: going through. It will be another episode next week, So
Speaker 2: this is not wrapping up, but I just want to say,
Speaker 2: in case I forget to say next week, have a
Speaker 2: great Christmas period and keep safe. Next week on You
Speaker 2: Ain't Seen Nothing Yet, this is the one we've been
Speaker 2: waiting for. I know a lot of fans of the
Speaker 2: show and fans of this man have been requesting him,
Speaker 2: and we have done it.
Speaker 1: Next week on You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet.
Speaker 2: Mister Tony Martin, he is a film nerd an encyclopedic
Speaker 2: knowledge of film history. Many people said, I'm sure, I'm
Speaker 2: sure he's seen every film. It'll be impossible for him
Speaker 2: to nominate one. Well, he has and the film Tony
Speaker 2: Martin will be discussing next week on this very podcast
Speaker 2: is nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 1: Is top Gun?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: How will Tony Martin go with MAV and Goose? Will
Speaker 2: he feel the need the need for speed will find
Speaker 2: out on the next episode of You Ain't Seen Nothing
Speaker 2: Yet until then having to everyone and take care of yourselves.
Speaker 2: And so we leave all Pete save fan Sul and
Speaker 2: to our friends of the radio audience, we've been a
Speaker 2: pleasant good night.
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Happen you here?
Speaker 3: Christmas? Christmas, Christmas Christmas.
Speaker 6: It's Christmas Eve, It's Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3: I'm very merry Christmas.
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas, you mother, Christmas