1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: land on which this episode is being recorded, the Combomb 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Merry people. They've been having conversations and telling stories on 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: this land for thousands of years, and we show our 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: gratitude and respect for their contribution to our environment and culture. 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: This is Rise and Copper, the podcast where we strive 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: to become the highest version of ourselves through curious conversations, 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: healthy mindsets, laughter, connection, and a deep desire to evolve. 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. Join me as we explore parenthood, 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: business manifestation, and so much more. It's positive, it's practical, 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: and it's about putting you in the driver's seat of 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: your own life. Are you ready? Hello, my loves, Welcome 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: back to the podcast. Today I have an exciting guest 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: for you. Her name is Margot Miller. She is a 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: business strategist and a mindset coach who's all about helping 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: you upgrade your identity when it comes to money and business. 17 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: So in this episode, Margo is sharing how to navigate 18 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: the challenges that come with pivoting in business, stepping into 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: a new version of yourself and aligning your actions with 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: financial success. So you're ready to claim it all. So 21 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: whether you're in a season of growth, a period of transition, 22 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: or just feeling a little bit stuck, Margo's insights are 23 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: going to help you rise to the next level with 24 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: clarity and confidence. She is a short one, she is 25 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: a sweet one. Let's get into it. Margo, Welcome to 26 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer Podcast. 27 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for having me. 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: So so welcome. I'm so excited we could get you 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: on the show. I know it is about six pm 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: your time there in La, so thank you for making 31 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: the time. Before we get into the juicy questions, I 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: would love for you to just introduce yourself to the 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: n C community. Who is Margo, What does she do? 34 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: How did everything come about? 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, I'm Margot. I'm a mindset mentor and I've 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: been working with people for almost two decades, so I've 37 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: been on this journey for a long time. It's basically 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: my soul's purpose why I incarnated into planet Earth is 39 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: to help eemil entrepreneurs quantum leave their impact and income amazing. 40 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: And so, Margo, I found you through Instagram, probably on 41 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: my for you page kind of thing, and I instantly 42 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: just had the energetic pool to your content, into your 43 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: vibration and to your frequency. And you know, I'm an entrepreneur, 44 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm a businesswoman, so I'm very much your target market. 45 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: And the way that you spoke to me it was 46 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: a very much like non bullshit approach. But we were 47 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: talking energetics, we were talking about you know, identity work, 48 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: and yeah, it really spoke to me. I would love 49 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: for you to kind of touch on the topic of 50 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: how success isn't just strategy because I feel like a 51 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: lot of women, you know, they get into business and 52 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: they think it's this framework of like, well, I just 53 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: need the right strategy. I just need like the bro strategy, 54 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: and then I'll make the money and then I'll be 55 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: really happy. And sometimes that works, but then it becomes unsustainable. 56 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: They find like I'm not really happy, like I'm making 57 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: this money, but I'm like hustling and et cetera, et cetera. 58 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Can you kind of just touch on like why success 59 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: isn't just about strategy? 60 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you nailed it on head, Like we 61 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: can create success when we're in survival mode and we're 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: just taking action and we're fucking hustling to death, right, 63 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: But at some point that's just not sustainable. Right. What 64 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: I found from working with so many women is this 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: is the number one thing comes up. People go, who 66 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: am I to do this? Right? And so anytime that 67 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: program is running, people are a they're either going to 68 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: waywork themselves to death like the bro marketing thing, right, 69 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: they're just go, go, go all the strategies, and it's 70 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: coming from a place of like, usually we're trying to 71 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: prove ourselves on an unconscious level, right, And so if 72 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: we're just doing we're missing out on I think the 73 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: whole premise of entrepreneurship, which is the evolution of our 74 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: soul and our existence. So yeah, if you just want 75 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: to go out there and fucking make shit happen and 76 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: go make money, fuck yeah, But like women, A aren't 77 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: designed to do that long term. And then b if 78 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: you have a higher calling and you want to create 79 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: impact and purpose, you have to go beyond strategy. 80 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: And so if someone's listening and they're like, yes, you know, 81 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: I've been doing the strategy. The strategy somewhat works. What 82 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: should they be doing? What else should they be looking 83 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: for and touching on? 84 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, two things to look at. Number One, what's like 85 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: your first thought when you get out of bed, right, Like, 86 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: I feel like that is going to tell you a 87 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: lot about what's going through your mind most of the day. 88 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: Is it like oh fuck, I have to post now? 89 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: Is it like oh are they going to think of me? Like? 90 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: Oh god? You know, it's like what are you saying 91 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: to yourself throughout the day, and then also what's the 92 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: predominant emotion that you're operating under, Like we carry these 93 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: sort of collective programs from our past, right, Like our 94 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: emotions kind of become anchors if we're not doing work 95 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: on ourselves. And so if you want to look at 96 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: what you could be doing differently, the first thing is 97 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: to become aware of what you're saying to yourself on 98 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: a daily basis and what with emotion on a daily basis. 99 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: So I love that you said about like, oh my god, 100 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: I've got a post today because I definitely went through 101 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: a period. I have been on social media for you know, 102 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: ten years, and I went through a period where I 103 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to post on social media anymore, 104 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm so exhausted from showing up for being this 105 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: like continuous person, and I felt so stuck. I felt 106 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: like a victim. I felt like, oh my god, it's 107 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: so annoying that I have to do this thing in 108 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: order to get this thing, Like what would you say 109 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: and kind of coach old Georgie through. 110 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so first of all valid, like I don't know 111 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: if anyone goes, oh my god, I'm so excited to 112 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: post today like love this, Like anyone does that? Right? 113 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: Like what is our bigger vision? What's our bigger purpose? 114 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: And so were either committed to it or we've lost 115 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: sight of our why So I would go to her 116 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: and be like maybe the younger her was building a 117 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: foundation off of her survival self, or she doing things 118 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: that she wasn't connected to because how I look at 119 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: it is like, yeah, every single thing we do is 120 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: going to have a shadow side. But if the shadow 121 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: side is posting once a day when you're committed to 122 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: your vision and your purpose and your mission, to me, 123 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: that's a lot better than having to show up at 124 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: a nine to five and to be in a cubicle 125 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: all day, Like I'm that to me, it takes my soul. 126 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: So it's like hitting the post every day and having 127 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: to show up. Yeah, it is a job. It's a 128 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: literal job. Content creation takes a lot, So I'm curious 129 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: for you at that time, where was the disconnect to 130 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: your purpose? 131 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: I love that question. It was really around for me. 132 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: I have, you know, my self development business, you know 133 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: Rise and Concer, the podcast, the courses, that sort of thing, 134 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: and then I have my product based business, Naked Harvest, 135 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: which is like you know, supple it's products. And the 136 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: disconnect back then was I felt like when I was 137 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: showing up, I had to like pick which person I 138 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: had to be and like which cause I was like 139 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: feeding into. And that felt disconnected because as a managen 140 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: and someone who is so multi passionate, it never feels 141 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: good for me if you try and put me in 142 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: a box. And so for me, I had lost vision 143 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: of like, well, I'm not here to sell self development 144 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: or I'm not here to sell a supplement. I'm here 145 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: to be Georgy and to inspire other people to live 146 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: on their own terms, which is what I'm doing by 147 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: having a social media where I have two different things. 148 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: But it's like I didn't even feel a need to have, 149 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, split myself because it's like the whole person 150 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: is both those things. So I feel like personally, that's 151 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: what the disconnect was for me back back then. 152 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: Wow, And once you kind of found your rhythm to 153 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: kind of merge them as like a hybrid, did you 154 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: find that there was less resistance or more energy to 155 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: showing up? 156 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, like for the process I had to work 157 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: through was for me to think that I have to 158 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: fit in a box or be this or that goes 159 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: completely against what I preach and teach my community. So like, 160 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: how dare I, you know, think that? And I wasn't 161 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: aware that that's what was happening. And even I love 162 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: what you said about the shadow side of something because 163 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: when I really thought about it, like I went into 164 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: the oh my god, like poor me, I have to 165 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: post on social media, you know, as I get into 166 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: like my Porsche car and show up to my warehouse 167 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: that you do you know what I mean? Like poor me, 168 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: I have to post like on social media and I'm 169 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: literally living like the life of my dreams, Like shut up, Geordy. 170 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: And we do we get like we get into these 171 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: victims mentalities. And even going back to like you said, though, 172 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure all of us, if we're business women, we've 173 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: worked the nine to five, we've done the thing that 174 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: we don't want to do and we have evidence, and 175 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: we have like the previous version of us, and it's 176 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: like we forget that. Like I used to work law 177 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: and wake up at four am, start work at seven 178 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: point thirty, not get home till seven pm. And now 179 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: I literally get to choose when I start work. I 180 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: have a whole team that helps me with everything in 181 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: my business. I always get home by four pm to 182 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: my daughter, so I'm like, poor me, I have to 183 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: post on social media like shut up. 184 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I love that you're so transparent about that 185 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: because I think that that's really valid and it's great 186 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: because you're showing that people there like are a lot 187 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: of our desires and what we're doing and what we 188 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: feel pulled toward. It's our north star. But it's not 189 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: like you things like a walk in the park. I 190 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: think it's just you commit to the mission, and when 191 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: we're disconnected, we're going to resent what we're doing. And 192 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: when we reconnect and we show up more, you know, 193 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: in alignment with who we are, we have the freedom 194 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: to be whatever the fuck we want to be online. 195 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: It just frees us up and makes it easier. 196 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: So so true, and like it really did take me 197 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: reconnecting to that vision of like, well, I'm here to 198 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: show other women that they don't have to fit themselves 199 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: into a box. So why am I trying to do that? 200 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 201 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: I love that we just had like a mini coaching session. 202 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: I love that you talk a lot about like an 203 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: identity upgrade and really leaning into that for someone who 204 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: doesn't really understand what does that mean. 205 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if we just break it down to the 206 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: very basics, our identity is what we think, what we do, 207 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: and how we are on a day to day basis, right, 208 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: And so for example, we'll go back to your example, 209 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: when we are when we feel disconnected or we feel 210 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: like we have to be in in separate ways, right, 211 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: like parts of us have to do this thing or 212 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: it's unconscious, right, A lot of it's unconscious. It makes 213 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: it challenging to create the impact and do the thing 214 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: that we came here to do right way of being 215 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: in the world. And so once we become aware of 216 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: our identity, we're aware that we can start to change 217 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: things and we have a lot more freedom with our reality. 218 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: And so someone who's struggling with their current identity, what's 219 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: like the first step that they could take to shift 220 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,479 Speaker 1: and change their identity. 221 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of identity challenges stem from visibility wounds. 222 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: So even the point we just used, right, so part 223 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 2: of that was the obligations or what you were allowed 224 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: to be on social media, and so a lot of 225 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: our identity is constructed by the fear of being seen, 226 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: by the fear of rejection, and so we unconsciously take 227 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: on these survival roles as a way to protect ourselves. 228 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: And so if we want to shift our identity, we 229 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: have to really look at where our survival self has 230 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 2: kind of come in as a mask, so we can 231 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: start to shift it and shift into who we are, 232 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: which is like a more authentic version of us. 233 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: So when we're upgrading our identity, it's not necessarily like 234 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: oh I want to be and just making up like 235 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: a random identity. Would you say, it's more of how 236 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: can I uncover? How can I unmosk myself and step 237 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: more into that person? 238 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? I love getting specific, Like I love being like, 239 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: if you want to get rich, be like, what is 240 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: my seven figure self? Study her, like, get about her, 241 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: give yourself something to focus on other than your fears, 242 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: and like what's holding you back? Right? I think if 243 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: you just literally brainwash yourself constantly into the new character. 244 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: Eventually you'll merge with her. So I think getting specific 245 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: is the best way to do it. But a lot 246 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: of us, when we've been in survival for so long, 247 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: can't even connect to that, Like that feels too much stretch. 248 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: So sometimes the first step is to be like, well, 249 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: what do we fucking hate? Right? Oh, you're like this 250 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: ain't it? You know, like, okay, showing up and trying 251 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: to do two things and not be myself. This ain't 252 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: it either. Like that's most of our journey is figuring 253 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: out what the fuck we hate so that we can 254 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: move closer towards who we want to be. 255 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: M I love that because sometimes it does feel overwhelming 256 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: to try and be clear on our next level and 257 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: our next identity, and so it's like, well, what do 258 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: I just not want to be? 259 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? That's like the learning point, it really is. It 260 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: gives you, I think, more information than what you want. 261 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: So true, because what we we're just kind of like, Okay, 262 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: onto the next thing, right. I Mean it's a great target. 263 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: It's good to have desires and follow them, but yeah, 264 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: but the recognizing what isn't working is really powerful. 265 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: I love that, and so something that you help female 266 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs with is really quantum, you know, their impact and 267 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: their income. What would you say out of your clients 268 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: is like the biggest shift that they usually need to 269 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: actually make or do to see that. 270 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I work with a lot of advanced souls 271 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: like yourself. How you were like, Oh, I found the 272 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: content and I just was gravitated towards it. And so 273 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: it usually ends up being one of two things. One 274 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: people are too focused on energetics and they're not strong 275 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: enough foundation. Right, they're kind of like highly gifted, but 276 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: maybe like just tuning into the money all day but 277 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: not actually building the business or hyper fixated on the 278 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: strategy and the action and doing things from a sort 279 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: of desperation proving energy. So that's kind of what I found. 280 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: It's like one way or the other. It's usually how 281 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: people kind of start off the gate. 282 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: So that person who's in that like proving energy, that 283 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: desperation like I need this, I need to get this done, 284 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: I need to succeed. What do you usually do with 285 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: that sort of client? 286 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So a lot of that usually comes from either 287 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: a childhood wound or it's coming from a lineage level 288 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: where it's like the lineage believes that in order to 289 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: be successful, this is who you have to be. So 290 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: it's kind of like peeling back the layers of the 291 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: onion there. And I think it's a little bit different 292 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: for everyone. Everyone's source of motivation is different, and a 293 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: lot of people fear that if they get rid of 294 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: the wound that they'll become lazy and unmotivated. And to 295 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: some extent, if the worst thing you're doing is trying 296 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: to prove yourself and you're building an amazing empire, that's 297 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: actually not that bad. You could be like on drugs. 298 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: There's plenty of other things that you could be doing 299 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: that's a worse than that, but eventually it's going to 300 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: kind of crumble. So you're going to want to build 301 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: from a stronger foundation than that. 302 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: And so how does someone kind of shift into that 303 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: stronger foundation to then, you know, stop making more money 304 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: and start seeing that success. 305 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: To be honest, it's usually that people hit a bottom, 306 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: either emotional physically, or a significant event happens in their 307 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: life and they're like, I want something deeper, I want more, 308 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: meaning this isn't like putting me in any way, And 309 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: so sometimes it's a combination of things, but that's usually 310 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: it's some sort of bottom internally or externally. 311 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: And then so on the flip side, you know the 312 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: other person who is like just like sitting in the 313 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: energetics and that like very feminine, like you know, doing 314 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: all the mindset work but not necessarily taking the action. 315 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Is it just more about like taking the action for 316 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: them or. 317 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a lot to be said that 318 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: sometimes we just need real clarity. Sometimes people literally don't 319 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: know how to start making content. People sometimes don't know 320 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: what their messaging is or how to speak to problem 321 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: awareness content that makes it clear that you're running a business. 322 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: Some people don't know how to sell, and so I 323 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: think that there's actually some really practical skill sets that 324 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: can help people feel more confident to actually start taking 325 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: some moves and swinging bigger in their life. But again, 326 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: I think that a lot of times people kind of 327 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: have to be like, Okay, I want it now, I 328 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: want it, and I'm willing to get in the game 329 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: and willing to get things messy and tuning into the 330 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: energetics is great, but it's not getting me what I 331 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: want all the way. What's missed? How I go fill 332 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: the gap. 333 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: And so for you personally in your business, do you 334 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: have like a set amount of like time where you 335 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: do like strategy and then the energetic or like kind 336 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: of how have you set up your business to combine 337 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: the both. 338 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So one of my biggest things is I've hired 339 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: up right, So I didn't just start with like, okay, 340 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: I need support here, I need this. I hired someone 341 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: who has built out seven eight figure brands, and so 342 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: strategy wise, she's like, okay, well this is what I've 343 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: seen works right, and then she was just like here's 344 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: the three and you just stick to this. I'm like great. 345 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: So I don't really sit around strategizing. I just kind 346 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: of mastered my niche and then I just intuitively tune 347 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: in every day and create content for them. But I 348 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: hire people because that's you know, I know my zone 349 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: of genius and I know where I need support. So 350 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: for me, it's like I'm I'm not going to just 351 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: wake up one day and be like, oh, I feel 352 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: like doing this and feel like I wanted a really 353 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: simplified business strategy that I could stick to for the 354 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: rest of my life. And that was just my own 355 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: personal preference. 356 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: I very much resonate with that. Like I remember when 357 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I had left my law job and so I was 358 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: only earning about like sixty thousand dollars a year and 359 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: I hired a coach for like forty thousand dollars US. 360 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 1: And it really came from this place of, well, I 361 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: quit law, and I am going to like make this 362 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: business work. So I'm going to hire someone who has 363 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: done the thing I want to do, and like, I'm 364 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: just going to do it. I'm not going to like 365 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: sit around and try and figure it out and like 366 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: look at random free content. I'm just going to go 367 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: straight to the end. 368 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: That was literally what blew up my business. I love 369 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: that when and I, yeah, I did join the Mastermind, 370 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: like when I didn't when I like technically didn't have 371 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: the money, and I was like, fuck it, I'm doing 372 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: it because I just knew. I knew it was going 373 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: to work. And you're right, replicate a formula that is 374 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: proven to be successful. It's not like some crazy math 375 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: experiment like it worked. No. 376 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also understanding that it's like if you're in 377 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: this for the long run, if you want to be 378 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: doing this business, you know, for the foreseeable future. It's 379 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: like that amount of money is like a blip, like 380 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: it's it's not going to matter. 381 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 2: That's where the identity work comes in, because when you 382 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: start moving like your multi six, multi seven, multi eight self, 383 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: you're not using your current circumstances to make moves. You're 384 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: moving from a higher version of you and that wantum leave, 385 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: and that's how things move faster. 386 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: I love that we're just pausing this episode for a 387 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: second to tell you about the Abundance Academy. This is 388 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: our signature thirty day money mindset and energetics course that 389 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: is going to change everything about how you show up 390 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: with money. Imagine never being stressed out about bills or 391 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: spending money ever again. Imagine feeling like money's actually got 392 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: your back. Like abundance is your natural state. This isn't 393 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: about budgeting or saving. 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And then like, how 415 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: do we move through this as we're feeling it in 416 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: our business? 417 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, first of all, I love when people have 418 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: imposter syndrome when it comes up, because if you didn't 419 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: care about what you were doing, you wouldn't care if 420 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: you turned out to like, you know, what other people 421 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: thought of you, or like oh, she's coming off like 422 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: a fraud. It's a sign that you actually are doing 423 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: something that's vulnerable at that on some level. We can 424 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: all have unworthiness and we can all feel like an 425 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: impostor on some level. But when it really kicks up 426 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: is usually when people come into the arena of what 427 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: they care about the most. So I don't know if 428 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: you when you were doing law, if you felt like 429 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: this huge, massive imposter syndrome, or if you felt it 430 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: more when you started your business. And I have seen 431 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: a lot of the times when you get closer to 432 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: the thing that you care about, it ramps up. So 433 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: first of all, it can be feedback that you're doing 434 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: the thing that you want to do. And then second 435 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: of all, a lot of us mistake imposter syndrome for 436 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 2: just feeling fucking uncomfortable and new at something. So if 437 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: imposter syndrome, if you start a business and five years 438 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: later you still feel like a fraud, then yeah, like that, 439 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: you maybe you want to get a training or you 440 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: want to work on your mindset. Of course, you know, 441 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: it's like a brain's trying to protect you on some level. 442 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: But for most of us, we're just new starting off 443 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: and we're just getting comfortable with the unknown, and we 444 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: feel like a fraud, but we're just beginners and that's okay. 445 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 1: I love that so much. And I'm like resonating with that, 446 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: because you know, I have had my business for five 447 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: years now, and I feel very comfortable and like I 448 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: could walk into any room and tell you about my 449 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: business and tell you about the strategy and feel very like, well, 450 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: this is what has worked for me, and very confident 451 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: in that. And I think that's so true. Like so 452 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: I'll have so many conversations with you know, clients or 453 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: even friends and family about well, it's like they want 454 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: to jump into this new identity. They want to jump 455 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: into this new version of themselves and they're like, oh, 456 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: but you know, but what do I do when things 457 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: feel tough, when you know, things start coming up, when 458 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: people are saying things, and I have to really explain 459 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: if it was really easy to just jump timelines to 460 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: step into new identities, Like if it was really easy 461 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: to just step into a seven figure identity, we would 462 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: all be earning seven figures. And it's not easy. But 463 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: it's like there will be this lag period where you 464 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: need to hold the discomfort of that new identity, but 465 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: not everyone's going to do it, So who are you 466 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: going to be? And I think we have ear all 467 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: quite you know, we are wired to be comfortable, want 468 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: to be comfortable, So I get it. But it's like, 469 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: well that's going to like I don't know if this 470 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: is a wild thing to say, but it's like, well, 471 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: it's just like if you can't get uncomfortable, well that's 472 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: going to show you the people who will never have 473 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: this seven big business, cause it's like it's such a 474 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: small thing really in reality, to feel uncomfortable. 475 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: You nailed it. Something intuitively that I used to tell myself. 476 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: I had a neurological disease for ten years. I was 477 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: really sick in bed, and intuitively, I always felt like 478 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: I was gonna make a difference on some level or 479 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: have a community someday. And I would tell myself, I'm like, 480 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: if I can't handle this, if I can't handle this trigger, 481 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: how the fuck am I going to like guide a 482 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: community one day? How the fuck am I going to 483 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: like be on stages or make it act in the 484 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: world if I can't handle like this thing that came 485 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: up right now. So every time I enter a new level, 486 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm like if I can't handle this, how much handle that? 487 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: And then immediately I just get bigger than it. And 488 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: it's always been my kind of go to in my 489 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: back pocket where I'm just like, this is no big deal, 490 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: like I got this, I know how to get bigger 491 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: than things, and it would help me move through my 492 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: timelines faster and faster. But you're right, we all have 493 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: moments where we're going to fall and feel defeated and 494 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 2: feel let down and feel discouraged. It's just how quickly 495 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: we get back in it and hold the vision and 496 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: hold that identity before our reality matches. 497 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: It So true. And that's even like I went through 498 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: something recently where I had to hold something financially and 499 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, I was complaining about it and to my husband, 500 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: and it is funny because he like pointed out, He's like, oh, Georgia, 501 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: like you know, like we really we're complaining about having 502 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: like this huge property portfoilo folio, like millions and million dollars, 503 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: and he's like, really, if this is our problem in 504 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: the world, like if this is really what we have 505 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: to deal with, like we're doing pretty well, Like it's fine, 506 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: We'll hold the discomfort, We'll move through it, It's going 507 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: to work out. And I thought, wow, that is so 508 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: funny because even I think a lot of people would think, 509 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: I just need to get to the seven figure business 510 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: and I'll never worry about money again. I just need 511 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: to get to the eight you know, figurbits, I just 512 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: need to get this. I just need to do this. 513 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: I just need to make that sale my business and 514 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: then I won't feel the imposter syndrome. But what you 515 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: don't realize is you will constantly feel imposter syndrome. You 516 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: will constantly, but it's not so much oh my god, 517 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm here again. I also, you know, deeply believe in 518 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: like new level, new devil. And it's like when I'm 519 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: feeling it, I really lean into Wow, this is so 520 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: exciting because I must be up leveling my identity, like 521 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: I must be moving into a new life level. And 522 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: like changing the anxiety to excitement really helps her meet to. 523 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: That is such a valid point. I think people just 524 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: assume when you get to a certain stage, you're like 525 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: you're you're fine whatever. And I think our psyche is 526 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: looking for relief from challenges. In some way, our primal 527 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: brain is like we want the problems to be gone. 528 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: But it's just better and better challenges, right, like challenges, 529 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: but we never escape it. We're in the game till 530 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: the day we die. It's just the game is getting 531 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: higher quality problems basically. 532 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's well, it's funny going back to that 533 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: same problem. My my husband's like a while back, he's like, well, 534 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: why don't we just because we have like a large 535 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: property portfolio. And he was like, well, why don't we 536 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: just sell all our properties and we won't have the 537 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: stress of the properties. And then I'm like, but then 538 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: we don't have like a property portfolio. We don't have 539 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: like our future thing. And he's like, well, what. 540 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: Do you want from me? 541 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like and then I'm like, yeah, true, then 542 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have the stress of not having that in 543 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: the future and not setting myself up in the future. 544 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: So it's like, what would you rather the stress and 545 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: discomfort now or the stress and discomfort in the future 546 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: for like the opposite thing. And I really had to 547 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: take that on and be like, and I personally use 548 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: a lot of nervous system regulation tools like EFT tapping, hypnosis, meditation, 549 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. And so I went and 550 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: did some EFT tapping and I felt so much better 551 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, it's fine, I don't have to stress. 552 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's such a good point too, because you can 553 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: feel an intense trigger and get yourself out of it. 554 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: And I think entrepreneurship trains you to be that way, 555 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: constantly getting uncomfortable, so you're constantly shifting and then you're 556 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: just you just get good at it. You get good 557 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: at pulling yourself out. 558 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you have to be that's like, you 559 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: just have to get better at being uncomfortable pulling yourself out. 560 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 561 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: Let's chat about because I love that you did touch 562 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: on like that sort of like identity piece of like 563 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: a seven figure entrepreneur, And I'd really love to know 564 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: your thoughts on do you think money and success requires 565 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: a certain identity Like I know we touched on like 566 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: even the identities you need to be comfortable with the uncomfortable, 567 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: But what sort of like other identity pieces do we 568 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: need to be a successful, you know, seven figure entrepreneur. 569 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: Let's say, yeah, well, if we think about the consciousness 570 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: of a seven figure entrepreneur, that is the consciousness of abundance, right, 571 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: and so if we're trying to become that and we 572 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: are in scarcity twenty four to seven, or we are 573 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: super triggered around money, or we have hard programmed beliefs 574 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: that it's hard to come by or that it easy 575 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: kind of easy. Go you have it all, you lose 576 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: it all. If we're running that we're not a match 577 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: match and so you don't have to be perfect. We 578 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: all have limiting beliefs. You can take them along for 579 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: the ride at some point. It's just what's the predominant 580 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: system running? And if you're predominantly in scarcity and you're 581 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: trying to be abundant, you have to upgrade to that 582 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: consciousness in order to create it. Or you could spend 583 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 2: your whole life working your ass off and saving and 584 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: problem maybe get there. But why would you want to 585 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: do it that way? When we have the tools to 586 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: quantum li and so can you run us. 587 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: Through a couple more of those like what's the match? 588 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: What's like? 589 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: You know? 590 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: Because I find a lot of people like okay, cool, 591 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: yet well I want that, but I've never been that, 592 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 1: so I don't know what their you know, belief system is. 593 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: So obviously I love that you touched on like abundance 594 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: and like not having scarcity what are some other ones 595 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: that people can lock into if they don't know. 596 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think a big piece of the seven 597 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: figure consciousness is visibility relationship to being seen in the world. 598 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: Seven figure consciousness takes up space. Seven figure consciousness knows 599 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: how to bring their triggers along for the ride. They 600 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: know how to get beyond themselves. They know how to 601 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: show up and serve. They can have fears and still 602 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: do the damn thing right. So so much of it 603 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: is the value that we bring to the world and 604 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: what we feel worthy receiving for it. And so if 605 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: we're hiding out, if we're playing small on some level 606 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: of our being, we also won't be a match to it. 607 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: So it's a stepping into that abundance mindset. B it's 608 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: feeling worthy to be in the world and feel comfortable 609 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: on some level of your being, to feel safe and 610 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: out there with your message, your voice, or your business. 611 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: Right like, visibility is required in pretty much every field 612 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 2: of that bigger consciousness. So those are kind of like 613 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: the two pieces I would really work on is the 614 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: mindset and the visibility piece, And I think if you 615 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: can kind of merge those together, I think you could 616 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: make a lot of moves in the right direction. 617 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: So with the visibility piece, because I actually I do 618 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: this thing on TikTok where I call them like Pep 619 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: talked about I'll just like ran to my car, and 620 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: I literally did one this morning, and it was basically 621 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that you know, we are so 622 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: scared of what people will think and the judgments and 623 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: the criticism that we will literally live in untapped life, 624 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: a duller life to make other people not talk about 625 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: us or like to feel comfortable. And basically I said, 626 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: like it kind of comes with the territory, like when 627 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: you are fully being yourself, when you are fully out there, 628 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: you're not, you know, dulling yourself. You're making yourself smaller. 629 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: You will have judgments and criticism because that is triggering 630 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: for other people who cannot do that, who cannot hold you. 631 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: So it's like we're always going to get criticized and 632 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: judge when we are being our bigger, most vivrant, you know, 633 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: best selves and being visible. So how would someone you know, like, 634 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: what do you kind of teach your clients of like 635 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: how to work through that? And someone who feels like 636 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: pretty much like debilitated with not moving forward because they 637 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be visible. 638 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, most of us are debilitated for a valid reason, 639 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: like most of us have experienced some kind of trauma 640 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: related to our appearance, related to our personality, or maybe 641 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: just in our family we felt like the black sheep 642 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: or something. So a lot of the times there's a 643 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: reason for that. But part of our journey here is 644 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 2: like the soul came here to live the other side 645 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: of the spectrum. You didn't sign up to come here 646 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: to be rejected, CRITICEDI and not experience the other side 647 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: of the coin, right, And so there's always a turning 648 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: point for the soul where when they get back out 649 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: there it's the opposite. And yeah, you are going to 650 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: be criticized on some level, but oftentimes it's really small. 651 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: Like I think when people come into their gifts and 652 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 2: build the brands and the businesses that they came here 653 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: to build, the majority of the time, it's not like 654 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: people are shitting on you every second of the day. 655 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: It's actually a pretty small percent. It's just that our 656 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: brains hyper fixate on it. We just usually take the 657 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 2: childhood bad experiences and we magnify the shit out of that. 658 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: But I don't know about you I mean, I'll get 659 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: Joe from here to some mother's basement shitting on my love. 660 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't It literally does nothing, you know, So it's 661 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: like it's not actually that big of a percentage on 662 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 2: a day to day basis. Of course, once in a 663 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 2: while you get it and you're like, oh, ouch, like 664 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: that was that one didn't feel good? But it's actually 665 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: pretty rare if we look at on a day to 666 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: day you're right, when you're in the arena, you're gonna 667 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: get but every second of every it's not like that. 668 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 2: It's just not no, And so you just have to 669 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: program yourself to be like this actually is more connected 670 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: with money, abundance, property is like you have to drill 671 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: your brain to believe that that's going to be the 672 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 2: primary reality and that you have all of it through 673 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: your mind. You can control your reality. 674 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: Yes, so true, And I think we do. We get 675 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: so hyper fixated on the negatives, on the judgments, on 676 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: the criticism, and do you think it's just about like constantly, 677 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 1: you know, changing those neuropathways and looking for the good, 678 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: looking for our community who resonates, looking for our passion 679 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: in this feels really good to show up in that way. 680 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would even go a step deeper. Sometimes I 681 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: have gotten hate and it's been my best feedback. And 682 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm not about the Joe's and my grandma basement people, 683 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, not like a man. But sometimes I've gotten 684 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: really harsh feedback and I was like, damn, they're right, 685 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: I could have done that better. 686 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: But delah. 687 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 2: Like, I think some of my my harsh feedback because 688 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: once in a while, like maybe a couple times a year, 689 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, fuck, like that shifted the way I 690 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: did something. Okay, cool, I'm nuance something the next time 691 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 2: I did a piece of content, Like there's value in it. 692 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: So I mean, unless it's just someone knocking you down 693 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: because they're miserable, but who gives a fuck about that? 694 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: Like that's not gonna in serving the people I came 695 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 2: here to serve. And yeah, like feedback sucks sometimes when 696 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: it's it's always gonna not be fun to hear. But 697 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 2: sometimes there's so much value there's gold in it. 698 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, even I've noticed some of the greatest criticism 699 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: have oh like just like the greatest judgments have really 700 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: showed me what I need to heal. Yeah, and like 701 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: where I need to look and be like, oh, fuck, 702 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: that person saying that about me? It did actually really hurt. 703 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: And so what's in that that I need to heal? 704 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: What's in that that I need to I guess like 705 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: reframed with myself because it's never actually about the other person, 706 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: And it has been very helpful to be like more 707 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: accepting of myself almost exactly. 708 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: And so we don't get the opportunity to build that 709 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: muscle of thickness, or to have our wounds be magnified, 710 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: or to get feedback that actually might be helpful in 711 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: a very bad delivery if we're not in the arena 712 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: being seen, like, we miss out opportunity. So while our 713 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: brain is like this is we don't want this, we 714 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: don't want this, there's there's so much value in it 715 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: this for our you know. 716 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's so true. And also it's like I 717 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: would rather be getting the criticisms and the judgments and 718 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: growing as a human and moving through that evolution then 719 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: like being this same person and being stuck in the 720 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: same you know, reality for the rest of my life. 721 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 2: I hardcore agree. I actually think fearing criticism is more 722 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 2: painful than actually being in the experience of receiving it. 723 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what I mean? 724 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 2: There's been times where I was too scared to like 725 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: do something and the fear of it was just comparalyzing, 726 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,240 Speaker 2: But then actually getting it once you're in it, you're like, Okay, 727 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: I can I can handle this. You know, it's not 728 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: like gonna kill me. 729 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: No, It's literally just words. 730 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: From a stranger on the internet. 731 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: So so true. Well, Margot, I have just loved this chat. 732 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: Thank you for being so raw, so real and so 733 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: honest and giving us so many insights. Could you let 734 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: everyone know where they can find you, where they can 735 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: find your incredible activating you know, social media and how 736 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: to work with you. 737 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 2: Of course you can buy me at Margot Miller a fish. 738 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: I just changed my handle on the ground so you 739 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 2: can find me there. And yeah, I welcome you into 740 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: my community. 741 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: Amazing. Do you have any last thoughts, comments, vibes or 742 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: even just like that person who is you know they 743 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: really resonate with, like I want to have it all 744 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: in life? What would your advice be for them? 745 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: Great? Where do you feel like, okay, so with your 746 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 2: community and having it all? Where do you think that 747 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: they're feeling the most stuck with that concept or even 748 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 2: in the process of manifesting it. 749 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: I feel like they think they need to pick, do 750 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I feel like they 751 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: need to be like, oh, well, either get to be 752 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: like a career woman or I can be a stay 753 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: at home mum, or you know, I have to be 754 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: this or that. They're not understanding that. It's like they 755 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: can really create a reality where they, you know, can 756 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: have it all. 757 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. A lot of times when we think we have 758 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: to choose something, it's been modeled to us through our 759 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: lineage or by society. So we're often just using examples 760 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: of what we see on the outside of what's possible 761 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 2: for us. But here's the thing. Why on Earth would 762 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 2: we incarnate into this planet and have desires put on 763 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: our heart to not actualize them? Like from my perspective, 764 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 2: there would literally actually be no purpose of being here. 765 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 2: Like our desires are our north stars for exactly what 766 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: we're meant to have in life. So if you have 767 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 2: the desire to have it all, to have the career, 768 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: to be the mom, that's literally what you came here 769 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: to do. The reason people feel limited in it is 770 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 2: because that's their deepest desire and that's what they're here to. 771 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: Actualize and they're fearful of failing. 772 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 2: That's all it is, because it's the thing that's closest 773 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 2: to their heart. So it's a north star. It's not 774 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: something to buy into. And just like we talked about, 775 00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 2: it's about holding the vision and holding that long than 776 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 2: the self doubt and if you can do that, you'll 777 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: have it all. 778 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,959 Speaker 1: I love that so much. Thank you. I appreciate your time. 779 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. We'll have all the links in the 780 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: show notes. Thank you so much, Mago, thank you so 781 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: much for having me. Thank you so much for listening 782 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: to this episode of the Rise and Conquer podcast. If 783 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: you enjoyed it and want more, connect with us via 784 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: Instagram or continue the conversation on our beautiful Facebook community page. 785 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 1: All the details are in the show notes, and I'd 786 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: love to hear more about your journey. Also, we're an 787 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: independent podcast of a small but mighty team, so we 788 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: really do appreciate your support. 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