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Speaker 1: Three sixties, the week that was the most listened two

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Speaker 1: hour in Territory radio. The Territory Leaders break down this

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Speaker 1: week's big issues.

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Speaker 2: Well, before we do that, let's take a look at

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Speaker 2: the weather. Sunny with light winds. We're heading for thirty

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Speaker 2: four in the city today, thirty six in the rural

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Speaker 2: area and thirty five degrees in Catherine. The top ends

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Speaker 2: tied times the Quintrex twenty twenty two runoff stock ready

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Speaker 2: to go. Don't miss the boat for another year, get

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Speaker 2: into in and out Boord Marine and secure yours today.

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Speaker 2: We are heading for a low tide of one meter

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Speaker 2: at two thirty this afternoon in Darwin.

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Speaker 3: Right now it's sitting on twenty six degrees.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty seven in the rural area and twenty six

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Speaker 2: in Catherine.

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Speaker 3: And it is Friday morning.

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Speaker 2: It's time for the week that was joining us in

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Speaker 2: the studio this morning. Well, we've got the opposition leader, Leofanocchiaro.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, good morning, Happy Friday, everyone, happy voting tomorrow

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Speaker 4: and daily.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we've got Kezier Puric, the member for going to

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, and don't forget vote early vote often.

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Speaker 2: You can only vote on scart Cole Madison, the Deputy

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister.

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Speaker 5: Unless you were my grandmother who used to go on

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Speaker 5: vote on behalf of her sister who had Alzheimer's as well.

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Speaker 2: They say when I go to vote, have you voted

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Speaker 2: before in this election?

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Speaker 3: Today? I always.

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Speaker 4: They just give you another money mate, good luck?

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Speaker 3: Oh goodness.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We will talk a little bit later about the daily

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Speaker 2: by election, which we know is happening, and tomorrow is

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Speaker 2: the day that it's sort of all I suppose really

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Speaker 2: comes to a conclusion. But first off, let's have a

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Speaker 2: chat a bit further about about our plans to open

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Speaker 2: up the Northern territory and also the fact that Phiza

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Speaker 2: the fires a vaccine is now open to all territorians

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Speaker 2: over the age of twelve.

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Speaker 3: So we know that there are calls from industry. They're

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Speaker 2: I think you'd have to say for some more certainty

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Speaker 2: around the borders when it comes to lockdowns and when

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Speaker 2: we're going to open back up. Our New South Wales

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Speaker 2: hopefully we're able to get a step closer to those

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Speaker 2: plans in terms of opening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, and I think it's great news that twelve and

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Speaker 6: It's terrific. I mean, my kids are much.

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Speaker 4: Much younger than that, so it doesn't, you know, affect

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Speaker 4: I think on the vax topic, you know, it's there's

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Speaker 4: We've been very vocal and clear that territory JAB numbers

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Speaker 4: we need is a real accurate truth on how many

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Speaker 5: First and foremost, I want to say well done to

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Speaker 6: Of everybody else. We've led the.

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Speaker 5: Charge when it comes to vaccination and we're going to

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Speaker 6: So well done to Territorians on getting vaccinated.

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Speaker 5: But whoever has not been vaccinated, time to roll up

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Speaker 6: We need as many people vaccinated as possible.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it is good news because I had a

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Speaker 5: And next month there'll be a lot more fires are

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Speaker 5: for some people who have been a bit hesitant again

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Speaker 6: We want all Australians vaccinated well.

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Speaker 2: And yesterday we actually caught up with Robin Carl from

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Speaker 2: I reckon all those that were previously only eligible for

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Speaker 7: Now that that's changed, I think it will. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we've talked about this before and here about the media's

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Speaker 3: Never do that. We never do that in the.

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Speaker 7: Media, no, no, no, anyway, So I know that there

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Speaker 7: that can get resolved now.

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Speaker 5: But again, the most important thing is get vaccinated. If

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Speaker 5: you're unsure, go speak to your GP get some advice.

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Speaker 6: Nicole.

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Speaker 4: When will the government put out the figures of vaccinate.

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Speaker 4: You know, you say half the territory is vaccinated, but

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Speaker 4: of course that includes tourists and five fos. When are

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Speaker 4: we going to get the data minus tourists and five fos.

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Speaker 4: Do we know how many Territorians have got the job?

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Speaker 5: Well, the advice I've got is that it's mostly Territorians

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Speaker 5: those vaccines. Territorians have put their hand up. They are

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Speaker 2: The other element to this is indeed the fact that

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Speaker 2: to speak to him after ten o'clock this morning, and

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Speaker 2: they're saying that they want ninety to ninety five percent

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Speaker 3: Do open up.

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Speaker 2: They're obviously very worried about our indigenous population and we

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Speaker 2: That is indeed where we are having some issues at

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Speaker 3: Now when we look at then the.

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory potentially opening up when that does happen, are

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Speaker 2: of time if we do still have that hesitancy in

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Speaker 5: We are doing a huge amount of work get across

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Speaker 5: to work with the Aboriginal health organizations about getting people vaccinated.

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Speaker 5: We've seen some magnificent results in some of our very

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Speaker 5: seen real hesitancy, real reluctance to go getvaccinated. So there

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Speaker 5: the most vulnerable people through COVID are the elderly and

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Speaker 2: I have just had the operator of one of the

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Speaker 2: access to more PIZA because at the moment the astrosenica

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Speaker 5: So the federal government work with the private clinics, and

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Speaker 5: so the federal government are the ones that distribute vaccine

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Speaker 4: Doubt, But if they're gunner government talking about vaccine targets

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Speaker 4: I just it doesn't make sense to me why you

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Speaker 4: the purposes of making this decision. It's you know we've

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Speaker 4: had if one clinic has twenty percent of all vaccines

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Speaker 4: being tourists, and I've heard even instances in remote communities

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Speaker 4: where you know, grat nomads are coming through and getting jabs.

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Speaker 4: You know, surely we have to cleanse that, done it

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Speaker 4: and make sure we know exactly how many Territorians are vaccinated,

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Speaker 4: not just how many jabs in arms we've done, because

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Speaker 4: you know, a twenty percent differential is a really big amount.

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Speaker 2: Lea.

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Speaker 6: Let me be very clear.

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Speaker 5: We are putting the health of Territorians first, and I'm

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Speaker 5: simply not getting the same advice that you are from

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Speaker 5: our health professional.

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Speaker 4: But you haven't ruled out that the numbers include tourists.

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Speaker 5: We are looking at the numbers of Territorians. That's what

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Speaker 5: we look at when we're making these considerations about vaccination

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Speaker 2: So that was made to me yesterday by Bernie, one

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Speaker 2: of our listeners. He actually said to us, what, we're

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Speaker 2: all Australians. So while those numbers obviously might differentiate to

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Speaker 2: some degree, don't we want all assy stuff about.

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Speaker 6: No, No, I've got no issue with that.

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Speaker 6: There've been plans from the very start of this, Katie.

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Speaker 3: We can't afford to be long.

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Speaker 7: That can't be the way we live into the future.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, but this issue of the Code yellow, I mean

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Speaker 4: That means there is unprecedented levels of pressure on our

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Speaker 4: You know, last Code yellow was just a few weeks

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Speaker 6: It got leaked through the media for the second.

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Speaker 4: The impact on cancer therapy for example, you know, it's

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Speaker 6: I just think, yes, you're fear mongering.

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Speaker 2: Point though that Leah makes is a very valid one

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Speaker 2: But we see even in other states, you know, where

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Speaker 2: you do tend to wonder how we're going to go.

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Speaker 5: And again, Katie, this is why it's important to take

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Speaker 2: We're not wa though, we're not sort of you know,

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, you know, the government is responsible for delivery of

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Speaker 4: So it's not okay to just fob off collective surgeries

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Speaker 4: it's about their strategic plan for supporting our health networks.

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Speaker 4: It's got to come from the leadership at the top.

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Speaker 4: No one's saying anything about the stuff. We're saying, what

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Speaker 5: Again, We've invested more in the health budget than any

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Speaker 6: I just want to say that this is an issue that.

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Speaker 6: You will see them dealt with generally within a matter

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Speaker 7: The question still remains, and I asked, I posed this

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Speaker 7: I think Katie, also there's the issue and correct me

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Speaker 7: if I'm wrong with Nicole of elderly people usually in

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Speaker 5: I think we have two areas that we have been

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Speaker 4: What about Parmeston Hospital, I mean people being diverted to

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Speaker 6: Has that been reopened?

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Speaker 4: Are we looking at doing some overflow capability at Palmerston?

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Speaker 5: So every code yellow was looked at and the whatever

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Speaker 2: I know it's not your portfolio, Meatow, but do you

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Speaker 2: know if that renal ward has reopened?

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Speaker 6: I don't have the information here.

446
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Speaker 2: We'll see what we can find out from the health department.

447
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Speaker 2: We're going to take a very short break. You are

448
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Speaker 2: listening to Mixwellow four point nine. It is the week

449
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Speaker 2: that was also broadcasting on eighth in Alice Springs. You

450
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Speaker 2: are listening to Mix one O four point nine. It

451
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Speaker 2: is the week that was in the studio with us

452
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Speaker 2: this morning, Nicole Madison, Kezy Apurican, Leophanocchiaro.

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Speaker 3: Now we know that throughout this.

454
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Speaker 2: Week there has obviously been quite a bit of quite

455
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Speaker 2: a bit happening around the place when it comes to

456
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Speaker 2: some of the issues around crime. Yesterday morning we once

457
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Speaker 2: again heard from Shelley out there at there zicolei IgA

458
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Speaker 2: pretty heartbreaking, I think every time we speak to her

459
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Speaker 2: and hear about the issues that they've certainly been confronted

460
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Speaker 2: with when it comes to really senseless crime. But we

461
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Speaker 2: also know the Territory police have had a very busy week.

462
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Speaker 2: A man has now been arrested in relation to an

463
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Speaker 2: assault in Woodroff, which happened a little bit earlier in

464
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Speaker 2: the week. So he was apprehended at an address in

465
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Speaker 2: Palmerston and is now apparently being interviewed.

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Speaker 3: By the police.

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Speaker 2: This is after we were told early yesterday morning, around

468
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Speaker 2: three am, a child woke her mother to tell her

469
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Speaker 2: that a man had been in her room and assaulted her.

470
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Speaker 2: True to fled the premises and the mother called the police.

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Speaker 2: A little bit earlier in the week, I'd received a

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Speaker 2: phone call from one of our listeners. He'd had two

473
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Speaker 2: of his vehicles stolen in Rosebery and he had said

474
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Speaker 2: to us, you know that the only window in the

475
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Speaker 2: house that didn't have crim safe was the small window

476
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Speaker 2: in the bathroom. Now we since found out that an

477
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Speaker 2: eighteen year old was arrested in relation to property and

478
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Speaker 2: violence offenses that were committed in Palmerston on Monday. Police

479
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Speaker 2: alleged that this group of males age between nine and

480
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Speaker 2: eighteen was responsible for five unlawful entries, two motor vehicle thefts,

481
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Speaker 2: criminal damage and stealing from a residence in Gunn, Rosebery,

482
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Speaker 2: Molden and Woodroff.

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Speaker 3: Now the eighteen year old's also.

484
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Speaker 2: Been identified as an offender in an aggravated assault on

485
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Speaker 2: a bus in Palmeston Monday afternoon. Now I actually thought

486
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Speaker 2: that he had been charged with that ring leader, with

487
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Speaker 2: that ring leader legislation, But I don't know whether is

488
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Speaker 2: one count of recruitment of a child man or is

489
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Speaker 2: that regarded as that ring leader legislation.

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Speaker 3: So it has been you know, it's been a pretty

491
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Speaker 3: terrible week.

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Speaker 2: And now there has also been some some further information

493
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Speaker 2: that had come through about a stabbing at the woolies

494
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Speaker 2: in Alice Springs. So, a worker in Alice Springs was

495
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Speaker 2: allegedly stabbed in the stomach in the loading dog of

496
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Speaker 2: woolworks on Thursday. So an eighteen year old man was

497
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Speaker 2: arrested over the alleged incident a short time after it occurred.

498
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Speaker 2: You know, I think it's safe to say that the

499
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Speaker 2: police are working bloody hard to be able to apprehend everything.

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Speaker 7: Working over time, and I was very diligently. Yeah, they're eligence.

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Speaker 6: They always do an amazing job.

502
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Speaker 3: But this thing.

503
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Speaker 2: Look, the thing is, you know, Shelley said to us yesterday,

504
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Speaker 2: it just feels like we're being overrun.

505
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Speaker 3: We people who are doing the wrong thing.

506
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Speaker 4: So yeah, because the government won't do anything about it.

507
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Speaker 4: You know, our police aren't doing an exceptional job. They

508
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Speaker 4: are out there every single day serving and protecting, keeping

509
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Speaker 4: people safe. And what we've got is a government that

510
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Speaker 4: doesn't want to tackle this issue head on. They've watered

511
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Speaker 4: down laws and legislation, They've failed to tackle this issue.

512
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Speaker 6: There's all this talk about.

513
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Speaker 4: More investment and more this and more that, but you

514
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Speaker 4: know we've got we've got more crime and that's not okay.

515
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Speaker 4: You guys need to start putting victims and territori ines

516
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Speaker 4: ahead of offenders, because you're entirely offender focused and it's

517
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Speaker 4: people and being victimized who have to wear the consequences

518
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Speaker 4: of your policy failures.

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Speaker 5: Victims always come first, and that is why we're backing

520
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Speaker 5: in police with record budgets, record numbers, making sure they've

521
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Speaker 5: got the right legislative changes that they need to do

522
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Speaker 5: their jobs.

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Speaker 6: But some of those.

524
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Speaker 2: About the police jobs, because they do a phenomenal job.

525
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Speaker 2: It's been about the punishment when you are a you know,

526
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Speaker 2: when you are someone who's committing a crime and trying

527
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Speaker 2: to make it a deterrent, so they bloody well stop

528
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Speaker 2: so again.

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Speaker 5: And what I'll say is that there is no shortage

530
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Speaker 5: of people who are in the jails, who are in

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Speaker 5: youth detention, Katie. So we are making sure that we

532
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Speaker 5: catch up with these individuals and that they do face

533
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Speaker 5: swift and idiot consequences for their actions, because they should.

534
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Speaker 2: Feel as though things are breaking down at the moment.

535
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Speaker 2: I mean, even when you read through what I've just

536
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Speaker 2: spoken about that's come through throughout the week, you know,

537
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Speaker 2: stabbing in Alice Springs in the Woolies loading dock, and

538
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Speaker 2: then you talk about that incident where you know a child.

539
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Speaker 2: We don't know the age of that young person, but

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Speaker 2: when there's someone in your child's room, I mean, I

541
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Speaker 2: think that all of us listening this morning can agree

542
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Speaker 2: that is your.

543
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Speaker 5: Worst absolutely absolutely, But again, police are professional, They go

544
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Speaker 5: through when they deal with that person, and they will

545
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Speaker 5: face the consequences for their actions.

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Speaker 1: Katie.

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Speaker 7: You know, we sat in here week after week, time

548
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Speaker 7: after time, year after year, almost it seems, and I

549
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Speaker 7: remember saying that you know, it's going to be amount

550
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Speaker 7: of time before people just get so frustrated or a

551
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Speaker 7: person gets so frustrated they'll take the law into their

552
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Speaker 7: own hand or even suggest doing that almost gets them

553
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Speaker 7: into trouble.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

555
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Speaker 7: But my view is, in the view that I pick

556
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Speaker 7: up for my constituencies, is that they feel there is

557
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Speaker 7: there is a perception real or not, that there are

558
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Speaker 7: no consequences except what you're saying, Nicole. People do get arrested.

559
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Speaker 7: That's why people.

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Speaker 6: There are plenty of people in.

561
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Speaker 7: Whatever the crime is, and a lot of the crimes

562
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Speaker 7: in our jails are assault involving alcohol and drugs and

563
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Speaker 7: into that nature serious not so serious, a little bit

564
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Speaker 7: of white collar crime not much, and don Dale's full

565
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Speaker 7: and Don Dale is full because that's the end of

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Speaker 7: the line. You know, they've tried everything with these young people,

567
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Speaker 7: whether it be diversion or whatever. But there is a

568
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Speaker 7: perception out there in the community that there are these

569
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Speaker 7: young youth people. Youths with the word is believe there

570
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Speaker 7: are no consequences. They believe there's no consequences. And that's

571
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Speaker 7: the perception of the of the average punter in the

572
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Speaker 7: rule here is that they're just getting a free ride.

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Speaker 5: And we have changed the laws, like people are getting

574
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Speaker 5: remanded and if they are getting bailed, then they're having

575
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Speaker 5: to wear electronic monitoring devices or go into signis.

576
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Speaker 6: They don't have to. They don't have to.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's a suggestion under the laws that you

578
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Speaker 4: brought in. It's not mandatory electronic monitoring. The reality is

579
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Speaker 4: jail is a fool, but that's because there's more crime.

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Speaker 4: It takes a lot to get a use into DONDLL.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they have to be an incredibly serious, serious

582
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Speaker 4: repeat offender to end up there, which means there's a

583
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Speaker 4: lot of other people still out on the loose.

584
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Speaker 6: And you know, violent offending.

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Speaker 4: In the last year has hit astronomical numbers.

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Speaker 7: Gary isl wasn't one of the attackers.

587
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Speaker 4: There are endless numbers of violent offending and even you

588
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Speaker 4: know the home invasion with that poor child, you know,

589
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Speaker 4: I mean home invasions are now resulting in serious crimes

590
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Speaker 4: and violent offending on other people.

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Speaker 6: It's good to stop.

592
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Speaker 4: There's got to be something urgent done by government to

593
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Speaker 4: cut in here.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to say that again.

595
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Speaker 5: You feel for the victims, and we want to protect

596
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Speaker 5: victims because they have suffered criminal activity. But I need

597
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Speaker 5: to again have a look at what the historical data

598
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Speaker 5: is actually looking at. If you have a look around

599
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Speaker 5: Palmerston and Darlin around property offenses, they are down and

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Speaker 5: they are down significantly. If you do have a look

601
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Speaker 5: at assaults across the territory, that is the area we

602
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Speaker 5: need to absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Do a lot of Do you feel satisfied right now

604
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Speaker 2: with the way things are going in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 5: I hate hearing any story where someone is a victim

606
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Speaker 5: of crime. It breaks your heart and you want to

607
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Speaker 5: do everything you can to assist those people. And that's

608
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Speaker 5: why as Minister, I'm doing everything I can to give

609
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Speaker 5: police the resources they need to give them the legislative

610
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Speaker 5: backing they need to be able to do their job

611
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Speaker 5: and listening to them about what makes a difference. But

612
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Speaker 5: it's also about, as a police conference said yesterday at

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Speaker 5: the NTPA, it's not just about police.

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Speaker 6: They are not the fixed all for everything.

615
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Speaker 5: It's about what's the work we can do with other

616
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Speaker 5: agencies to make sure that they're doing their part.

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Speaker 2: Of what I said at the conference, are the other

618
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Speaker 2: agencies letting you down?

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Speaker 5: No, I think they're doing a huge amount of work.

620
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Speaker 5: But the issues in the Northern Territory are great. We

621
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Speaker 5: do have the largest percentage of poverty and disadvantage, and

622
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Speaker 5: they make and biggest issues with alcohol in the country.

623
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Speaker 5: But we must never stop trying to deal with these

624
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Speaker 5: and to because I've got to.

625
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Speaker 2: Tell you honestly, we are back to the point where

626
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Speaker 2: we're getting a lot of people contacting us each and

627
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Speaker 2: every day about the issues that they're facing with crimes.

628
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Speaker 2: You know, catching up with the gentleman earlier in the

629
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Speaker 2: week who'd had both of his cars stolen. You know,

630
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Speaker 2: one of them was his work car, the other one

631
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Speaker 2: was his car that his wife had saved her money

632
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Speaker 2: for and had just purchased. You know, I know that

633
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Speaker 2: some people can say, all right, well it's petty stuff.

634
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Speaker 3: You know, maybe it's not the end of the world.

635
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Speaker 3: It is not petty.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know where we go from here, because

637
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Speaker 2: when you have someone like Shelley lay on the phone

638
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Speaker 2: yesterday in tears again after being broken into again, you know,

639
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Speaker 2: when you hear that there is a person in a

640
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Speaker 2: child's room, you know, I think that we can all

641
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: agree that's something and I don't know what, because we

642
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: know the police are working very hard, but there has

643
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Speaker 2: to be some kind of change here in some way

644
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Speaker 2: to try and make our community feel safe and confident

645
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Speaker 2: that there are consequences when people do the wrong thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and what I will say to people is that

647
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Speaker 5: there absolutely are. There are swift consequences, There are immediate consequences.

648
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Speaker 5: But that's why we need to invest more in making

649
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Speaker 5: sure that we stop young people heading off in the

650
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Speaker 5: wrong direction. If we can see that a family unit

651
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Speaker 5: is not working well and they are entering into a

652
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Speaker 5: life of crime, that we make the right interventions to

653
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Speaker 5: you into trouble.

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Speaker 2: That the government that you're part of right now, that

655
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Speaker 2: you are doing enough in this space.

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Speaker 6: There is always more you can do.

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Speaker 5: But I tell you what, we are absolutely throwing everything

658
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Speaker 5: at it, from the point of when kids are first born,

659
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Speaker 5: that support around school, that support around families where kids

660
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Speaker 5: are going off the rails, and investing in the other

661
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Speaker 5: end when it comes to the prisons, our police and

662
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Speaker 5: making sure that there are both.

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Speaker 2: To listeners in Alice Springs today, for example, who are

664
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Speaker 2: listening thinking, you know, look, we've had some poor bugger

665
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Speaker 2: stabbed in the in the loading bay of the supermarkesh.

666
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Speaker 2: You know who had a situation last week where there

667
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Speaker 2: was a car driven through a co car park. Who

668
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: are you know, battling with issues with breaking entries each

669
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Speaker 2: and every day. What would you say to them who

670
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: are just feeling as though they've had enough?

671
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Speaker 6: We are working incredibly hard, you know.

672
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Speaker 5: Any of these these crimes just completely unacceptable and we

673
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 5: need to make sure we bring these people to justice

674
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Speaker 5: because it's unacceptable.

675
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Speaker 4: You know. I mean you mentioned before about you know,

676
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: supporting and all this sort of stuff. It's like your

677
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: government came into power and got on the wrong foot

678
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: immediately and we are paying the consequences for that now.

679
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: You know, you scrapped truancy officers with schools, you took

680
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: youth justice out of corrections and put it into territory families,

681
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: meaning that custody.

682
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 6: Or oversight has been dealt with by a child protection.

683
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: Agency inside Darndale instead of instead of corrections. You know,

684
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: we've got this dismantling of legislation. We haven't dealt with

685
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: the revolving door of bail. You know, you've disempowered police

686
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: to be able to do their jobs and at tackle

687
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 4: this issue exactly. You know all these I mean, you've

688
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 4: been in the government for five years and more now, Nicole,

689
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: for all of that, you've been the treasurer or the

690
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: deputy leader. You know, this is people's lives. You know,

691
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: it's their ability to get insurance, their ability to go

692
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: to sleep at night, their ability to explain to their

693
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: kids why it's safe or not safe. You know, it's

694
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: just this is having such a profound impact and people.

695
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Speaker 4: I spoke to a guy out on a boots and

696
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: I won't say which one during this Daily by election,

697
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: and he'd lived in that place for eighteen years and

698
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 4: he said, I'm out, I'm moving next week or whatever

699
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: it is. He said he'd voted Labor his whole life,

700
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 4: and voted CLP because of crime and he's just sick

701
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 4: and tired of it and gone, and we are losing

702
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: fantastic territorians because they just can't deal with this issue anymore.

703
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 7: You know, over the last two years, picking up what

704
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 7: you've just said about the person who wants to leave,

705
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 7: maybe I reckon. Over the last two years, I could

706
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 7: name you about eight couples who've left the territory, and

707
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 7: they're not retiring kind of levels, who've sold up for

708
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 7: whatever reason and left the Northern Territory, partly because they're

709
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 7: not comfortable here anymore, you know, like not so much

710
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 7: in their own home, but just generally in the Northern

711
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 7: Territory in the top end anyway, you know, going to

712
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 7: the Casuarinas because it's such a bad image attached to

713
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 7: that area now, or the shopping center. That's what they believe.

714
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: Now.

715
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Speaker 7: These are normal working couples, some have children, some don't.

716
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 7: They have relocated out of the Northern Territory and partially,

717
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 7: not exclusively, partially it's to do with their perception that

718
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 7: the territory in the Top End is not a safe

719
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 7: place anymore, and they don't want to be here, so

720
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 7: they've taken themselves, their families, their incomes their energy, their

721
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 7: efforts somewhere else, and it's varied where they go. Quite

722
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Speaker 7: a few go to the Eastern seaboard, but not exclusively.

723
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Speaker 7: Now that's just in my elector.

724
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Speaker 6: And look at the lives of ours, see lots of

725
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 6: we all know those stories. We all know those stories.

726
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 7: Thought didn't have people.

727
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they're not the only people looking at leaving the

728
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: territory or looking at changing jobs. We heard through the

729
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: police that police survey and their annual conference that we're

730
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Speaker 2: also in a situation with our territory police at the

731
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Speaker 2: moment where Paul Mchoue had revealed.

732
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Speaker 3: On the show yesterday.

733
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Speaker 2: And I know obviously at the conference that sixty percent

734
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Speaker 2: of our police officers that took part in that survey

735
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Speaker 2: are applying for jobs into state or are considering going

736
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Speaker 2: into state. We know that sixty four percent of those

737
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: that conducted that survey said that their morale was low,

738
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: seventy seven percent said that they don't feel there are

739
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Speaker 2: enough police, and eighty eight percent of those respondents are

740
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Speaker 2: concerned about attrition.

741
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Speaker 6: Isn't that Scarot?

742
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Speaker 7: Let me jump in there talking about the anti police

743
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 7: officers of whichever ranks A friend of mine recently participated

744
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 7: in a federal police course to become a federal police officer. Yep,

745
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 7: from up here. She wasn't in the empty police and

746
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 7: she's just come back quarantined and all that sort of stuff.

747
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 7: And it was a three month course. Now sixty Northern

748
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 7: Territory police officers applied for that course. And now apart

749
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 7: from her she's actually police officer from another juris, there

750
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 7: were two anti police officers on that course with her.

751
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 7: Now she knows this information because she's the ex police

752
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 7: officer and what's to become a federal police officer. So

753
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 7: a lot of anti police are looking to become federal

754
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 7: police officers, which means they are not comfortable. Some of

755
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 7: them might generally just want to improve their chances.

756
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Speaker 5: And I think different Commissioner Kershaw knows he gets the

757
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 5: best cops in the Northern Territory.

758
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: We can we can't disss this.

759
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 7: Card serving police officers applied to do that three month course.

760
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Speaker 6: It's terrible.

761
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Speaker 4: We tried in Parliament a couple of months ago to

762
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Speaker 4: have a parliamentary inquiry into why police are leaving. We

763
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: know that the government aren't really doing proper exit interviews

764
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Speaker 4: and that police don't feel confident to even participate in

765
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Speaker 4: those exit interviews, and that we're not understanding clearly why

766
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 4: police are leaving the force. Now, Nicole, you've said a

767
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: number of times, Oh, it's because you know, moving into

768
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: state is so attractive at the moment. Yesterday we heard

769
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Speaker 4: at the conference a new reason which I hadn't heard before,

770
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: which was people don't have enough opportunity to do remote postings.

771
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 4: But ultimately, the government don't know why people are leaving

772
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 4: because they're not collecting that information. And if we don't

773
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: keep that attrition rate down, we're not going to be

774
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: able to pump up people through the college. It's just

775
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: we have to be listening to our police and understanding

776
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 4: what they need to get your typees.

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Speaker 3: We are going to have to go to a bright We.

778
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 5: Do listen, we do understand the reasons why people leave.

779
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 5: But the thing I want to stress is that we

780
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 5: do have the very best police officers trained and ready

781
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: for the job here in the territory. People do actively

782
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: recruit them from interstate, but we also have a hell

783
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 5: of a lot of people who want to join the

784
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 5: Northern Territory Police Force, and we've had over two hundred

785
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 5: constables this year that will graduate through the college and

786
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 5: we have got record numbers. There are plenty of people

787
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 5: putting their hand up to be part observing and protecting

788
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 5: the territory.

789
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Speaker 2: We're going to have to take a very short break.

790
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Speaker 2: You are listening to Mixwallow four point nine is.

791
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Speaker 1: Three sixty Mixed Oneow four point nine three sixty, the

792
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: week that was the most listened to our in Territory Radio.

793
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: You are listening to Mixwallow four point nine's week that

794
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: and in the studio this morning leofanocchi Aro, Keziapuric and

795
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: Nicole Madison. Now, a topic which absolutely got our listeners

796
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: very fired up yesterday is that of the Territory Wildlife

797
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: Park and concerns that the Territory Wildlife Park is well.

798
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: I guess it started with the COLP claiming that it

799
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Speaker 2: was going to be closed down. Now we did have

800
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: the Minister for Parks and Wildlife, Selena Rubau, yesterday confirmed

801
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: that's not the case. But then that discussion really turned

802
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: to it being quite underfunded, and we caught up with

803
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: the zookeeper who has been with the Territory Wildlife Park

804
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: for twenty years.

805
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: He's now retired.

806
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: Greg Mayo, but he said that he had concerns that

807
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 2: the Monsoon Forest Walk, as well as the Dough Avery

808
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: and the Buffalo Trail and the Rocky Ridge were all

809
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: speculated well.

810
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: To close this month.

811
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Speaker 2: I understand that there has been an update in this

812
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: space from Overnight Ye, So I just want.

813
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 5: To assure people the Territory Wildlife Park is absolutely not closing.

814
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 6: It is a beautiful, beautiful.

815
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Speaker 5: Park, great family attraction, great tourist attraction, Katie, it is amazing,

816
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 5: but we have seen tourist numbers decline, particularly with the

817
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: COVID environment. So we are going to be injecting nine

818
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars into the park to make sure that

819
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 5: we are supporting them with their exhibits, particularly through COVID.

820
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: But I want to assure people it is not closing.

821
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Speaker 5: There are no plans to close it whatsoever, and we're

822
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 5: certainly not going to go down the old Colp route.

823
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 6: When they tried to privatize that.

824
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: It's a hundred thousand dollars payment COVID one off payment

825
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: is that is that federal funding or territory funding.

826
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 5: Will be using it through the Northern Territory government. It

827
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: is a Northern Territory Government Park. It is a Northern

828
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 5: Territory public asset. It is a wonderful part of the

829
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: Northern Territory. It does important work around research and preservation

830
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: of the environment, around our animals and our habitats.

831
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Speaker 6: So it's absolutely here to stay.

832
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 5: But we're certainly never going to go down the path

833
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 5: of shutting it or privatizing.

834
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Speaker 3: It like those exhibits o bit.

835
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 5: Yes, it will keep the exhibits open. It is important

836
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 5: to see that it has had a rough year. It

837
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 5: has been rough because of COVID and visitation pressures on it.

838
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but what has happened here is labor have

839
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: been busted in its tracks. You might not be closing

840
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: the park, but you absolutely are gutting it. You are

841
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: firing people. We've had two t three positions gone. The

842
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: EMUs are already gone, the dingos and buffaloes are going.

843
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 4: The monsoon for the resting no, no one has ruled

844
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: that out. Yesterday you had a political epiphany because this

845
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: is bad news for you ahead of the daily by election,

846
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: where you've now said, quick, we need to get some

847
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 4: money as a band aid. But this is temporary one

848
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: of funding. It doesn't go to long term sustainability of

849
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: the park or valuing the staff and the people out there.

850
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: We have had so many people come and see us,

851
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: people crying about what labor are doing to the wildlife.

852
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: It's just great. We're not trying to offload it like

853
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 6: you guys Worth.

854
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: In government for five thousand lass, so that that.

855
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 5: Is the payment that's going to get us through a

856
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: month next year and it's making sure that we do

857
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 5: have a sustainable budget there because we need to keep

858
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: it open, we need to keep the exhibits open. The

859
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: Territory Wildlife Park is a really fantastic place and we

860
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 5: support it.

861
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 6: Katie.

862
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 7: I think there's one park or wildlife park reserve in

863
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 7: Australia that actually makes money.

864
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 6: I stand they don't make money now there's one in Australia.

865
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Speaker 7: Most anything dealing with feeding of animals or feeding of humans,

866
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 7: it's very easy to lose money and waste money. Anyone

867
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 7: who's got a farm knows all of this sort of stuff,

868
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 7: and anyone's got a restaurant knows this kind of stuff.

869
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Speaker 7: But you know the focus should be on Most wildlife

870
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 7: parks or zoos and things of that nature are about conservation,

871
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 7: education and research, the tourism and the engagement with young

872
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 7: people in schools is almost like a byproduct. But even

873
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 7: then that's part of the research and the education. So

874
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 7: I mean, this park has had a long history and

875
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 7: a very good history. It's a given. It's a given

876
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 7: that you know with COVID and the turndown of tourism

877
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 7: that you know, places like that. Crocodiles has also suffered.

878
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 7: I reckon the one in the mall smith To wherever

879
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 7: it is is also suffered, you know, the Crocodile Place Allo.

880
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 7: All businesses have suffered, especially the ones based who need

881
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 7: the travelers and the visitors. Locals alike, like we can't

882
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 7: go and visit the wildlife park if we're in lockdown

883
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 7: and it's it's a family place. I too have been

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Speaker 7: approached by a lot of people extremely concerned because they

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Speaker 7: have young.

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Speaker 5: Fmal plans, family plans to come out.

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Speaker 7: Really commit to this park.

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Speaker 4: Call it this is a one off band aid payment.

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Speaker 6: You know what I want to know?

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Speaker 4: The labor for Daily actually works as an advisor for

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Speaker 4: Selena Eubo, the Minister for Parks, So what did he

892
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Speaker 4: know about this plan to gut the part? That's what

893
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Speaker 4: I want to know he was in that office, but

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Speaker 4: you don't know about it, and again tried to this

895
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Speaker 4: is a secret plan to gut the wild life part.

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Speaker 4: It works, wunning the part you've got eaten.

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Speaker 6: I have had people who work.

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Speaker 3: We are going to talk further about this. I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to turn those mikes down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We are going to talk further about this with Great

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Speaker 2: Mail a little bit later this morning. Look, we're going

902
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Speaker 2: to take a very short break. You are listening to

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Speaker 2: Mix one O four point nines three sixty.

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Speaker 3: It is the week that was Mixed one or.

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Speaker 1: Four point nine three sixty, the week that was the

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Speaker 1: most listened to our in Territory radio.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is just a few minutes away from ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Nicole Madison, Kezy Epurican Leofanochiaro all in the studio with

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Speaker 2: us this morning. And we do know that the Daily

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Speaker 2: by election this weekend, and it seems as though the

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Speaker 2: voter turnout so far in some parts of the Daily

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Speaker 2: electorate quite high. A total of two three hundred and

913
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Speaker 2: forty three votes have been cast so far out of

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Speaker 2: the five thousand and seven one hundred.

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Speaker 3: And six electors.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not one hundred percent sure where exactly the

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Speaker 2: majority have voted at this point in time. But I

918
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Speaker 2: know that there has been a real push in the

919
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Speaker 2: likes of what I to try and get locals out

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Speaker 2: there voting.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so it's going to be an interesting one, there's

922
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Speaker 3: no doubt about it.

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Speaker 7: So you've got you'd have poor Keats, what are you'd

924
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Speaker 7: have River, you have Peppi, you have Plumba, you have

925
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Speaker 7: in your Point, you'd have all those areas. They've all done,

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Speaker 7: remind freak.

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Speaker 4: But the real issue is though the Electric Commissioner reporting

928
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Speaker 4: that people in the rural area haven't had a strong

929
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Speaker 4: a voter turnout. So this is an important opportunity for people.

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Speaker 4: If you live in Darwin, River, Berry Springs, Bachelor or Woggite,

931
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Speaker 4: you can vote maybe until six pm at Burry Springs

932
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Speaker 4: and Caller Linger, but she's taken on the weekend and

933
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Speaker 4: you can vote tomorrow obviously at your local polling booths.

934
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Speaker 6: But it's an important election, you know.

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Speaker 4: This gives people an opportunity to go out and vote

936
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Speaker 4: and stop Michael Gunner getting any more power. He's spent

937
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Speaker 4: twelve million dollars on his Dodgy Grandstand deal thirty five

938
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Speaker 4: million for use criminals. He's forgotten about the Bush and

939
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Speaker 4: candidate christ A Strong.

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Speaker 3: I don't usually allow the political you know, it is

941
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Speaker 3: a political show politics.

942
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Speaker 5: So what I say is that it's going to be

943
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Speaker 5: a hard seat for us to win because in history

944
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Speaker 5: no government has taken a seat off opposition in a

945
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Speaker 5: by election.

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Speaker 6: But this will. This is a choice for the people

947
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Speaker 6: at daily.

948
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Speaker 5: Do you want a government that's going to keep you safe,

949
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Speaker 5: that's going to keep backing you in investing in housing,

950
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Speaker 5: in roads and the things that you need.

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Speaker 6: It's also going to be a big test to your leadership.

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Speaker 5: Leader, you put yourself front, you.

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Speaker 6: Don't build on that margin.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what we already know that Steve Njington

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Speaker 5: and Chris can.

956
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Speaker 4: Your government calfish believing in people in the bush.

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Speaker 7: Michael, I'd like to hear from the labor candidate. I mean,

958
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Speaker 7: I've read stuff on Facebook and he was asked a

959
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Speaker 7: question by the chairman of Timymin College what his view

960
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Speaker 7: is and was because a lot of students come from

961
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Speaker 7: down Rivern Berry Springs, what his view is on the

962
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Speaker 7: need for school based constables college like term in college

963
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Speaker 7: and he hasn't even answered. Now the two independents have

964
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Speaker 7: answered as best to understand what I've been reading. I'm

965
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Speaker 7: not sure about the c LP yet, but that's a

966
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Speaker 7: critical issue in regards to the Rule Air. The Timimin

967
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Speaker 7: College been the only public college and a school. So

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Speaker 7: there's nothing about labor and that there's nothing about from

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Speaker 7: the labor candidate in regards to key issues in the

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Speaker 7: Rule Air, particularly Berry Springs with their water management issues

971
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Speaker 7: and the fact that that aquifer is always put under

972
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Speaker 7: pressure every every dry season. You know, So it's fine

973
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Speaker 7: to say, you know, the labor government's been doing all

974
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Speaker 7: these good things about COVID. That's a given. All state

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Speaker 7: premiers have been doing good.

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Speaker 6: Things about five years.

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Speaker 7: Giving what this labor candidate from New South Wales is

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Speaker 7: going to do for the good people have done River

979
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Speaker 7: and Berry.

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Speaker 5: School place policing. Unlike the SALPA, they've done a Darwin century.

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Speaker 5: We're back and people under gang.

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Speaker 3: We've run out of time.

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Speaker 2: Lea Finocchio, the opposition leader, thank you for your time

984
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Speaker 2: this morning.

985
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Speaker 4: You go out and vote rural area vote one. Chris

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Speaker 4: Sivitree for a strong on my team to tell this

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Speaker 4: gun game man, all right.

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Speaker 7: I'm just going to do a plug for the Sun

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Speaker 7: of the district's network.

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Speaker 2: Nicole Clarison, the Deputy Chief Minister, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I just want to make a few statements remembers in

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Speaker 5: the Grand Finals tonight.

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Speaker 6: Network shout out to the Time the Fieries. Thank you

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Speaker 6: so much for the work you did in your head.

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Speaker 6: You did a great job. Yeah it was good guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time This morning you

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Speaker 2: are listening to Mix one O four point nine. I

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Speaker 2: apologize were a bit late for the National News