1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sophie Kasia's ex denies soft 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: launching a new relationship. Brittany Dawn Davis's trial is postponed indefinitely. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: France set to ban parents exploiting their children for online fame, 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: and the ATO sets its sights on influencers flogging off freebies. Hello, 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torba, 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: and it's just you and I today, soph and I'm 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: very excited because we can talk about your engagement party 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: without Amy getting annoyed at us. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no objections from her. 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: Well, I have felt a bit greedy because in Adelaide 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: it's been the long weekend, and I thought that was 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: the perfect weekend to hold my engagement party because next 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: year we have also taken up the long weekend with 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: our weddings. So very greedy with those long weekends, particularly 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: because the long weekend for March it always falls around 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: our birthday. Our birthday is the fourteenth when this episode 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: goes out. 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: So I feel like there's been so much going on 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: that I'm sort of. 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Shocked now that it's going to be our birthday. 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Reese's parents kindly held a birthday dinner for me last night, 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: and it just didn't feel right. It doesn't feel like 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: our birthday. I'm sure it will today when we're recording 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: or getting into the engagement party. I thought it was 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: a really fun night. There was a bit of a 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: stressful lead up because about three weeks before the party, 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: the functions manager left that position, so we were left 30 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: with the president of the Surf Life Saving Club, who 31 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: he was lovely, but it was all very last minute. 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: There was a new catering company on board, and we 33 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: had a bit of a complicated night because the catering 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: company dropped off the food and then unfortunately they haven't 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: worked out that they needed waiters to take the food around, 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: so our poor mum got stuck in the kitchen as 37 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: well as other family members. And also, thank goodness your husband, 38 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Kate and your new brother in law are in events, 39 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: because they were fantastic. 40 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh, they just kicked into gear. They were fabulous. 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: I think they almost enjoyed their role in the kitchen 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: because they were just getting things done. They were reheating 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: the food, sending it out. Mum was doing an amazing job. 44 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: I was trying to take platters around but stop to 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: talk to everyone, so I don't think I was as efficient. 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: I have to say, I was pretty blown away with 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: how we transformed the Life Saving Club because I took 48 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: you guys for dinner there and you were pretty underwhelmed. 49 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: But we had Brandon's parents nicely make these professional looking backdrops. 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: I cut my. 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Fingers apart making a balloon Garland and Brandon did such 52 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: a good job with his dad's setting up beforehand, so 53 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: it was a team effort. Oh, it looked fantastic. I 54 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: was really surprised when I walked in and the two 55 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: staff at the Surf Life Saving Club, God, they worked hard. 56 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Those women were amazing. 57 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: They did such a good job, and it was so 58 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: kind because we really wanted our dog Archie there and 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: they let us bring him in for photos at the 60 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: start of the night, which was so sweet. It's pretty 61 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: funny because we joke that we are not dancers, and 62 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: Brandon's family love a dance. They're from the country and 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: they love really different music to what I'd say we 64 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: would like, and Brandon and I had a pretty tough 65 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: time picking the song list, so it was sort of like, 66 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: let's pick some songs from the nineties and naughties, so 67 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: if he likes, let's pick some from the eighties that 68 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: Brandon and his family likes. And every time one of 69 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: my songs came on, the dance floor was clear by 70 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: fit Well, it was cleared by the Hancock side of 71 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: friends and family, whereas our side were into those songs, 72 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: but we're not big dancers. It was almost like a 73 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: bit of a dance off five because as soon as 74 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: the Hancock's song came on, they just like rushed up 75 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: and they almost did this. It was like they planned 76 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: the dance routine beforehand. 77 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: It was pretty impressive. 78 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone listening knows the song rock Lobster. 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of it until I met Brandon because 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: his family really puts everything into rock Lobster. 81 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: It was insane. 82 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going on, and the 83 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: funniest thing was I was like, Oh, this must be 84 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: like a family dance. But then our best friend's husband 85 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Chris was joining in. I'm like, oh, this seems to 86 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: be pretty well known. 87 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: We had to. 88 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Get some cred up for team tour, but because we 89 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: were looking pretty bad on the dance floor. So you 90 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: got your new family involved, your sister in law and 91 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: brother in law who were professional dancers, and I think 92 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: they tore it up. Oh you're forgetting Reese. Reese also 93 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: pulled out the worm again while Tony was on, So 94 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: I was actually glad Dad was out of the room 95 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: when that was all happening. But no, I think that 96 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: they elevated team tour a little bit. Oh, it was 97 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: such a fantastic night. I wish I could relive it again. 98 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: Had so much fun and just so appreciative of all 99 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: of our family and friends who came together to help. 100 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: I have had enough with people trying to hold me accountable. 101 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: Five months after splitting from her former fiance Sophie Keasha, 102 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: basketballer Maddie Garrick appeared to have soft launched a new relationship. However, 103 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: after teasing her followers, she confirmed a few days later 104 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: the pair are just friends. So I don't know if 105 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: you're buying it, but can you take us back to 106 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: the start where this all began? 107 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 108 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: Well, Maddie surprised her followers on Tuesday night by sharing 109 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: a photo of herself holding hands with fellow at WNBA 110 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: player Matia and Asoba during a visit to Vatican City. 111 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: In the caption, Maddie didn't address the relationship status but 112 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: simply wrote roma with the holding hands emoji. 113 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: Now. 114 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: In the comment section, Mattie tagged Mattia and wrote we 115 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: cute dot dot dot, and Mattie's comment section obviously lit 116 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: up with followers excited about this potential new relationship. One 117 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: wrote yeay, you deserve to be happy, whilst another said 118 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: here for this now. For some context, Mattie moved to 119 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: Italy in October to play basketball for a local team 120 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: and that's where she met Matia. So Matia is twenty 121 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: one and she relocated to Italy from North Macedonia. So 122 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: Maddie and Sophie were doing long distance and Sophie shortly 123 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: after came to visit, and when she returned to Melbourne, 124 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: she shocked everyone by announcing their split. And in the 125 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: break up announcement, Sophie alluded to infidelity. She wrote, when 126 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: I propose, I did it with the guarantee of loyalty, 127 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: trust and respect from my end. Now, after doing some stalking, 128 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: it appears that the couple's outing took place around Valentine's Day, 129 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: so Matia shared a similar photo of the pair wearing 130 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: the same outfits in Vatican City, and in the photo, 131 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: Maddie is absolutely beaming as she leads Matia through the 132 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: cobblestone streets on what appears to be quite a romantic outing. Now, 133 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: Matia captioned that photo talk nice to us. When I 134 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: continued my stalking further, I noticed that Sophie Kaisha actually 135 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: liked one of Mattia's photos on October seventeenth, and to 136 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: put that into perspective, Sophie announced the split six days 137 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: later on October twenty third. In this photo, Matia is 138 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: dressed in her basketball uniform wearing a mask, and Maddie 139 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: commented under the photo mask, on to which Matia replied, 140 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: never chase a bitch. Now, I've been doing a bit 141 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: of thinking about what this might have meant. I think 142 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Matia might have been saying, I'm not chasing you. If 143 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: you want to be with me, you have to end 144 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: things with Sophie. Now. 145 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: Am I reading too much into this or not? Maybe? 146 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it is weird that Sophie liked the post, 147 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: but it could have been one of those back off 148 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: kind of likes. 149 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm aware of. 150 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: You yeah, I totally think her like was a passive 151 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: aggressive like saying I'm aware of what's going on. Yeah. Well, 152 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: on Thursday, Maddie began backpeddling, so she uploaded a photo 153 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: of her and Matia to her insta story fresh out 154 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: of the shower, we towels wrapped around their heads, and 155 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: wrote FYI we are not dating hashtag just a tourist photo, 156 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: hashtag my tourist photographer. She then tagged Matia in the 157 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: story and wrote soz babe. She then also updated the 158 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: caption of the original photo that caused all the interest 159 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: and wrote hashtag just a tourist pick. 160 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: Are we buying this? Absolutely not. 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: I think that these two are definitely an item. Why 162 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: tease these photos? Yeah, Maddie knows the response she's going 163 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: to get from posting this sort of photo, So she's 164 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: either been really cruel to Sophie and trying to play 165 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: with her emotions. Just say if it's true and she's 166 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: not actually interruption. 167 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: She doesn't buy into things. 168 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: Because Maddie's kind of distanced herself from the whole thing. 169 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: She didn't really comment on the break up at all. 170 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't really fit her mo. Yeah, I know, I 171 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: feel like they are in a relationship. I have no 172 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: idea what's going on, because if they were trying to 173 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: be sympathetic to Sophie, they would keep things under wraps 174 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: and say she is a genuine friend. Then it seems 175 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: like they're trying to get some sort of reaction from it. Well, 176 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, Sophie was doing the same thing, 177 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: posting with a lot of other women on red carpets. 178 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a bit of a fuck you. Yeah, maybe, 179 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: who knows what. I am very keen to see what 180 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: else unfolds. 181 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: Get pay with us for when Peter, let's go by me. 182 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: The ATO is continuing its crusade against influencers, this time 183 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: at targeting social media stars selling freebies on second hand sites. 184 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: So if we've definitely noticed a trend of influencers selling 185 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: gifted items on sites like deepop. Some have even taken 186 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: a step further, creating spinoff Instagram accounts to flog off 187 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: items to followers, the OTO is seeing this as a 188 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: real issue. The ATO has put out a stern warning 189 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: to influencers saying they should not be double dipping and. 190 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: Cashing in on gifted. 191 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: Items, and the ATO says it will be using sophistic 192 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: data matching techniques to catch influencers out. It isn't clear 193 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: yet what technology is involved, but I'm all for it. 194 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: I just think, why should influencers get paid a lot 195 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: of money to promote a product to their followers and 196 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: then turn around and try and make additional money by 197 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: flogging it off online. This has never made any sense 198 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, it's always puzzled me, particularly because these 199 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: influencers are getting paid for promoting this product that their 200 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: followers will want to emulate, and then they suddenly just 201 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: see it being flogged off and Deepop. It makes the 202 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: partnership very insincere and just really bad for the brand 203 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: in general. It becomes apparent that the influencer doesn't actually 204 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: align with the brand because they seem like they can't 205 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: stand having this item of clothing hanging up in their 206 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: wardrobe any longer, particularly those influencers who just throw it 207 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: out the next week. And this comes after m Davies 208 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: was caught out this week selling three pairs of sunglasses 209 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: on Deepop that she promoted a week prior. So Awkwardly, 210 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: the partnership was a brand called Sito. I don't know 211 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: if I'm Prety out in that correctly, and they did 212 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: a collaboration with dom and Ella from Math. So she 213 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: wanted between fifty nine dollars and sixty five dollars for 214 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: each pair of sunglasses. Like, what is the point when 215 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: you're only making one hundred and fifty dollars? She was 216 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: probably paid a couple of grand for the post. Why 217 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: not just give the sunglasses to friends or donate it 218 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: to charity instead of trying to cash in. 219 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: I know, it's just such a bad look. 220 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: And also why sell them so quickly, like maybe way 221 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: a couple of months. Yeah, it's not like they're a 222 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: big item that you can't hide in a cupboard. I 223 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: do understand there are influencers who receive an abundance of clothes. 224 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: For instance, this week, so for Doper shared on her 225 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Instagram account that she had thirteen huge boxes full of 226 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: PR clothes. But she was doing something fantastic, which I 227 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: think is a great idea for other influencers. So she 228 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: wrote that she is selling them through the Hunter markets 229 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: with one hundred percent of proceeds going to Ronald McDonald house. 230 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a really positive step that influencers can 231 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: give away these. 232 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: Clothes that help a charity and give back. 233 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: And also, I mean, I think so for Dover is 234 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: clearly doing it for the right reasons, but it's a 235 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: bit of good pr for them too. 236 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: I can see how it would be so. 237 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: Embarrassing and infuriating for a brand to actually pay an 238 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: influencer to promote something and then for it to come 239 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: out publicly that they flogged it off. 240 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: And this is why it isn't. 241 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Surprising that The Courier reported that some brands are actually 242 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: blacklisting influencers who get caught out selling their gifted items online. 243 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: So an industry insider said, many designers have alerts online 244 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: to see when their items have been listed, and I've 245 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: heard stories of the listings being traced back to talent. 246 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: An agency manager who requested not to be named in 247 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: the article also told the newspaper that some agencies despise 248 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: the practice, and one influencer recently got caught out immediately 249 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: listing around fifteen thousand dollars worth of clothing on deepop 250 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: after they had been gifted it directly. 251 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: By the brand. 252 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: That's so bad. The thing is, how do you feel 253 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: about micro influencers selling gifted item as opposed to the 254 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: larger influencers, do you think that they have more of 255 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: a right to do so. Yeah, I don't have as 256 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: much of an issue with micro influencers doing it because 257 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: for them, it's mostly a side hustle. So they're gifted 258 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: products in return for usually a testimony of a product, 259 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: and often there isn't any money that's passing hands, just 260 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: a contra deal. But isn't it a little bit deceptive 261 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: to their audience because micro influencers have such trust from 262 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: their audience, and this is usually built on giving legitimate testimony. 263 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: It really depends, though, if the micro influencer has full 264 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: rain to. 265 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: Give their genuine opinion. 266 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: So if it's a situation where to say, a cosmetic 267 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: company identifies this micro influencer who has a really great following, 268 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: everyone seems quite engaged in their content, they send them 269 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff and they give their genuine opinion saying, Hey, 270 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: this eyebrow pencil not so good. They should then have 271 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: the right to either sell that on or give that 272 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: eyebrow pencil to charity because they don't want it. That 273 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: Their thing is, do they really want to sell an 274 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: eyebrow pencil? I mean, you probably couldn't anyway, because it's 275 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: just say it's a top where they really want to 276 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: sell the top on if it's not good and it's 277 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: not good quality. Well, I can think of heaps of 278 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: clothes that I don't like anymore that I purchase myself, 279 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: that I just flog off on Facebook for money. 280 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: True, I don't know. I think it's pretty murky. 281 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: I think that if you are getting gifted something from 282 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: a brand, you should just not sell it. I think 283 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: it should be a blanket rule, no matter how many 284 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: followers you have, if you really don't want the item 285 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: in your house, just donate it. Well, in this Courier article, 286 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: one fashion insider who chose also not to be named. 287 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: This article was full of people who didn't want to 288 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,119 Speaker 1: be named, so you do have to question the legitimacy 289 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: a bit. So she argued that influencers should be encouraged 290 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: to sell pre left clothes they don't wear to promote 291 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: circulate fashion, and she did make sort of a good point. 292 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: She said that we look to influencers to test and 293 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: trial trends, which leave them an abundance of stock that 294 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: they don't have a need for once they've created the content. 295 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: She continued, saying, we should celebrate influencers selling it to 296 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: their communities as they're promoting sustainable fashion. Now, this is 297 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: where she lost me with her argument, because most of 298 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: the time influencers are promoting fast fashion items which are 299 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: encouraging young people to by the latest statement pieces which 300 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: they will eventually chuck out in a few months time, 301 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: So they're really encouraging this over consumption, but then wanting 302 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: a pad on the back for selling on one item 303 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: that they promoted, which they're then in turn making a 304 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: profit fora but doesn't donating the product also promote sustainable 305 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: fashion or giving it away to their audience, Like why 306 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: do they have to make monetary gain from it. 307 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: I really think that this. 308 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Could all be solved by items being loaned out or 309 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: hired to influencers for their content shoots. And this would 310 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: make sense because a couple of months ago we spoke 311 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: about how the ATO is now going to be taking 312 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: influencers gifted items into consideration when working out their tax return, 313 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: so the cost of those items will be tacked onto 314 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: their overall taxable income, which I think is a really 315 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: great idea. And it's just so clear that the implications 316 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: of these crackdowns have really left the industry readjusting their 317 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: approach to gifting. That's interesting because if they get taxed 318 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: on the gift and then sell the gift, do they 319 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: get taxed on the income that comes in from I 320 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: feel like it's a bit of a nightmare. 321 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: To work out. Yeah, what a nightmare for accountants. 322 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: A lot of people watching this probably now maybe there's 323 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: some people that don't. 324 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: I can't speak on it yet, but you better believe 325 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: that I will when it's done. It is trial week 326 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: for me. 327 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,239 Speaker 1: The trial of the US fitness influencer accused of deceptive 328 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: business practices has been postponed indefinitely. The state of Texas 329 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: issuing Britney Dawn Davis over a fitness plan that officials 330 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: say violated consumer protection law and misled people with eating disorders. So, 331 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: if we discussed last week that Brittany was set to 332 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: face trial on Monday, what's happened. Yeah, Officials at the 333 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: Dallas County Courthouse told media that there were seven trials 334 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: on the docket ahead of Britney's trials, so that's what 335 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: led to the postponement. And the officials also said that 336 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: they were very surprised by the media attention surrounding the case. 337 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: It's so funny to me that they were surprised because 338 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: there has been widespread attention online, particularly on Redder, as 339 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: this is one of the biggest public reckonings regarding influencer 340 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: accountability so far. Probably had no idea who she was, 341 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is the media doing here now? 342 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: No new date has been announced yet, with official stating 343 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: they weren't sure when they were going to get to 344 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: the case. When the case finally does go to trial, 345 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: though it is expected to last for about a week. 346 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: It's quite funny because the postponement appears to be news 347 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: to Brittany as well, because she shared a vlog last 348 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: week entitled the Tea Dot Dot Dot It's trial Week, 349 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: and in the video she documented her weekend before the trial. Now, 350 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: despite the clickbait title about sharing the tea, she said 351 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: she couldn't speak on the trial yet, but you better 352 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: believe she will be. Let's throw to what she said. 353 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: There's so much, There is so much that I wish 354 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: I could say, and I can't. 355 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: I can't see it yet, So that is that I 356 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: really am not even. 357 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: Comfortable sharing how I'm feeling or doing right now, if 358 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, like I'm just not comfortable sharing anything 359 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: about this lawsuit and this trial. 360 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's that. 361 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: It makes me feel deeply uncomfortable that she is trying 362 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: to monetize this trial. She's upset so many people who 363 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: follow her. It's so serious what is being claimed against her, 364 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: and I feel like this wouldn't look good to the 365 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: jury that she's trying to profit off for loh No. 366 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: And it was the first time I've actually watched a 367 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: video from her channel, and it was a very strange 368 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: mix of faith and fitness. So she started her weekend 369 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: measuring out this health shot and then started reciting a 370 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: passage from the Bible. We also, of course saw her 371 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: doing a workout and eating a healthy lunch. And I 372 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: know she has changed to a faith flogger, but I 373 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: was really taken aback about how much she spoke about 374 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: her faith and God in this flog It was very 375 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: full on. So she appeared Keen to promote the fact 376 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: that she spent her weekend at church and also at 377 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: a charity event, and she mentioned that they had to 378 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: say goodbye to their second foster child and were preparing 379 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: for a third. She also dropped in there randomly that 380 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: she was two days late on her period and may 381 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: have to do a pregnancy test. 382 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: It was all very bizarre. 383 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: It was like this weird PR stunt where she was 384 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: trying to prove what a nice person she is, but 385 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: then clickbait this trial at the same time. To me, 386 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: I take it as she's trying to get sympathy from people, 387 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: while was me, I'm such a great person. 388 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, why is this happening to me? Yeah? 389 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: Now it appears the trial may have been delayed due 390 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: to the one point three million dollars in transactions made 391 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: to Britney's PayPal account that have not yet been accounted 392 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: for in court filing so on March one, the state 393 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: accused the defense of attempting to obscure the truth by 394 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: not providing adequate information. This included only providing documentation that 395 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: accounted for only ten percent of Britney's sales. The defense 396 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: claimed that they provided everything they had and blamed a 397 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: web hosting company for losing a servant containing the information 398 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: that the state is seeking. That's convenient. It always happens 399 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: in these cases. Oh sor this is lost. We can't 400 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: find this. What's even more convenient is Apparently Brittany has 401 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: lost access to her paypower account and a lot of 402 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: the emails have been deleted or not preserved. Now, following 403 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: the defense's admission, the state requested to delay the trial 404 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: for at least three months, stating its case will suffer 405 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: substantial prejudice if it can't spend more time seeking information 406 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: about Britney's business transactions. Now, the judge has not addressed 407 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: the request to push back the trial date. However, the 408 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: fact it didn't begin on Monday does indicate the motion 409 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: is being considered, and it seems like a popular decision 410 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: on Reddit. While people were disappointed that they couldn't you 411 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: know that the trial hadn't started and they couldn't hear 412 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: all the goss, it seems like it's a good thing 413 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: that the state has time to get more information and 414 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: evidence on Britney. We will be keeping a close eye 415 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: on this case and providing some updates when it finally 416 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: does go to trial. 417 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: Wei w Wei w Wright of. 418 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: That mummy blogging and family channels could soon be a 419 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: thing of the past in France. This week, a bill 420 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: restricting parents exploiting their children from online fame has passed 421 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: In France's lower House of Parliament Kate. This legislation is 422 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: the first of its kind to be introduced. How is 423 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: a set to protect children? It's important to firstly note 424 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: that the new legislation isn't proposing a total ban on 425 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: posting photos of children on social media. Instead, it's all 426 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: about introducing to parents this concept of a child's private life. 427 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: So parents would. 428 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: Be legally responsible to monitor the images of their child 429 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: that are posted online. And France deems people under eighteen 430 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: as children, so this would be a very interesting concept 431 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: as kids get older and start going onto platforms themselves. Now, 432 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: the new legislation means public officials could intervene if images 433 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: were deemed as seriously undermining the dignity or integrity of 434 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: a child. I wonder how France is going to determine this. 435 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is that if a parent posts 436 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: a photo that is inappropriate, they are held legally responsible. 437 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. 438 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: So they really need to monitor what they post and 439 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: also what their children are posting. And it seems like 440 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: these laws have been brought in as a response to 441 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: family vlogging channels, but also to the trend at the 442 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: moment of parents sharing humiliating videos of their kids online. 443 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of trends on TikTok. For example, 444 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: there's one going around the Pooh trend, and it's like basically, 445 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: parents ask their kid to pass them some toilet paper 446 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: and then they smear fake Pooh ontop and film their 447 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: reaction and essentially it's all these pranks that set their 448 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: kids up to react in and over the top way 449 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: and embarrass them. 450 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: That they're trying to put a hold on. This legislation 451 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: is all very new. 452 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if it works on the basis of followers 453 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: reporting a post that they deem is inappropriate to the 454 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: Instagram or Facebook, well, you would assume the general public 455 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: would be a part of the monitoring process. We've seen 456 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: that here with the ad standard, where people are asked 457 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: to dobbin an influencer who's not promoting their advertising correctly. 458 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: And I think a big part of it is that 459 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: it is so hard to control the dissemination of posts 460 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: online and the associated risks involved. And that's why France 461 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: is trying to get a stranglehold over this issue. Because 462 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: sharanting has been identified as one of the main causes 463 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: of a child's privacy being invaded. And for those who 464 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: haven't heard the word before, shaiting is defined as the 465 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: practice of using social media to share news and images 466 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: of children, and in this instance, the legislation is particularly 467 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: targeting family vlogs made by influencers, so I'm assuming those 468 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: type of people are going to be on the top 469 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: of the list that are monitored. This is a really 470 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: positive move by France and one that I hope we 471 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: see adopted by Australia. I completely agree because I think 472 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: people don't realize how much harm they're putting their kids 473 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: under when they share their lives online. Firstly, kids are 474 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: known to be more harassed and bullied if their lives 475 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: are put online, and there also is a very real 476 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: risk that content of children could end up on child 477 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: exploitation forums. It's very disturbing that fifty percent of photos 478 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: shared on those types of forums were initially posted by 479 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: parents online, and there was a study in twenty eighteen 480 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: that found that parents will on average post thirteen hundred 481 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: photos and videos of their child their thirteenth birthday. That's 482 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: a really disturbing stat and I think it's one that 483 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: will shock a lot of our listeners. I know a 484 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: lot of our listeners are young mums, and you do 485 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: put out these images of your children online with the 486 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: best intentions at heart. I think it just shows how 487 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: important it is to have private Facebook accounts and also 488 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: obviously private Instagram accounts, and to really think about what 489 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: sort of content you are going to post of your 490 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: child online. Yeah, exactly, Well, I am interested to see 491 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: how this legislation goes. It's pretty clear that the French President, 492 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Macaron has a clear focus on protecting children. In 493 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, he introduced a law to protect child influencers 494 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: from using their social media accounts to run a business. 495 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: So I think he's a bit of a trailblazer in 496 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: this area. I had to laugh because the way you 497 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: pronounce his last name it sounds like Macaroon. I've prom 498 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 1: the French. I've probably pronounced it completely wrong. Now I'm 499 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: a bit nervous about that Tiger is now dating Avrillevine. 500 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: Why is this a big deal? Let me show you. 501 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Avril Levine has sent the Internet into a spin after 502 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: she was spotted making out with Rat Tiger a Paris 503 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: Fashion Week. It comes just two weeks after calling off 504 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: her engagement to another rapper by their name of mod Son. 505 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: The unlikely pairing and close turnaround isn't the only thing 506 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: raising eyebrows though, with the Internet in disbelief over the 507 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: immense and awkward amount of connections this pair share. All 508 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: these connections are wild. So one TikTok user has gone 509 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: viral after creating a mind map where she traced all 510 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: of the intertwining connections between Avrol and Tiger. So the 511 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: TikTok user called Abby attracted thirty four million views when 512 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: her video went live last week. I want to go 513 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: through this mind map because it is quite unbelievable. I 514 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: think when she get started with Tiger's ex Black China first, 515 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: so he has a baby with Black China, and Black 516 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: China is connected to Rob Kardashian because they were previously 517 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: in a relationship. They also had a TV show together, 518 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: and they do share a child together now and that 519 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: child is dream. 520 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Then. 521 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: Of course Kylie Jenna comes into this mind map because 522 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: she is Rob's half sister and also Tiger's ex girlfriend. 523 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: I remember when that all went down, it was absolutely wild, 524 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: like people were losing their minds over it. But this 525 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: gets crazier with the connection to Avril Levine. Yeah, so 526 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner's other half sibling is of course Brody Jenna, 527 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: who appeared on the Heels. Now, he dated Avril quite 528 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: seriously a number of years ago. The pair was so 529 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: serious that they went to Kim Kardashian's wedding to Chris Humphrey. 530 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: So then Kim and Chris Humphreys come into this mind map. Now, 531 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: if we circle back to Tiger, his ex wife Jordan 532 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Craig used to be in a relationship with Chloe Kardashian's 533 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: infamous X and. 534 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: Baby daddy, Tristan Thompson. 535 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: So these people just only move in this circle. 536 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: It is wild. It continues. 537 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: Courtney Kardashian is then included on this mind map because 538 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: she is married to Blink One Night two drummer Travis Barker. 539 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: So you may be asking, what is this connection with Travis. 540 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: Well, Travis's protege is mod Son Avrils X. How messy 541 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: and convoluted is this? 542 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: Geez? 543 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: It's so messy, even messy for the Kanashians, and they're 544 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: known to be pretty incestual with their relationships. Imagine trying 545 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: to organize a family function or a wedding this lot 546 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: going on, you'd have to be trying to work out 547 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: who can't be seated next to who Oh, you couldn't 548 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: do it. I mean, maybe they're just so used to 549 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: the craziness being in this A list celebrity world that 550 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: they just sort of decided to keep things in this 551 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: one group and see what happens. 552 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: It reminds me of that stereotypical popular. 553 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Group at high school where it's all very incestive. 554 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: Everyone's dated at each other. It's sort of like one 555 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 2: tree heel they've all been with one another. Yeah, a 556 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 2: little bit. 557 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's all we've got time for today. 558 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for another episode of Outspoken. This 559 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: episode was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana 560 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders 561 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: past and present and if you have enjoyed today's show, 562 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: please leave us a five star review and don't forget 563 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: to join in and all the fun in our Facebook group, 564 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: which is Outspoken the podcast community. 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