Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this
Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay
Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging and extend
Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the
Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which
Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix
Speaker 1: soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes
Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think
Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your
Speaker 1: besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are
Speaker 1: in your journey, we're here to help you be curious,
Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're
Speaker 1: ready to get into the driver's seat of your own
Speaker 1: life and stop letting life past you by.
Speaker 2: Then you're in the right place.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We have such a fun episode for you today and it.
Speaker 2: Is the final part of our Her Story.
Speaker 1: Series and we're talking about the one and only Lizzo.
Speaker 3: We love it so much.
Speaker 2: We love Lizzo so much. So, guys, if you don't
Speaker 2: know in her story.
Speaker 1: This is where we share the stories of iconic women
Speaker 1: who have made history or who we feel are currently
Speaker 1: making history. These women are trailblazers in their chosen careers
Speaker 1: and are doing things differently, which you know we love.
Speaker 1: We then unpack certain aspects and values that they model
Speaker 1: in everything they do and discuss how we can use
Speaker 1: this as an expander for ourselves. In the lastp we
Speaker 1: spoke about Whitney wolf Heard, who is the founder of Bumble,
Speaker 1: and how she has integrity.
Speaker 2: In everything she does.
Speaker 1: What we really want you guys to start thinking about
Speaker 1: through this series is what legacy or impact you are leaving.
Speaker 1: Could you do things differently, could you think outside the box?
Speaker 1: And how can you push yourself outside your comfort zone.
Speaker 1: But before we get into the show, a tea update us.
Speaker 2: On your week.
Speaker 3: I had a pretty fun week.
Speaker 2: Tell us more.
Speaker 3: I did a cooking class on Sunday with Jamie. It
Speaker 3: was so much fun. I'd love that for you too,
Speaker 3: so much. A pizza class and then I dropped my
Speaker 3: pizza before I went in the oven. And then the
Speaker 3: lady said, oh, this is like the first time that happened.
Speaker 3: I was like, great.
Speaker 2: A tea I'm really just not surprised.
Speaker 3: It's only embarrassed if you're embarrassed, and I'm not embarrassed,
Speaker 3: so it's fine.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: I love it, And like, what did they taste?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Oh it was so young?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did the dough from scratch and everything, so
Speaker 3: it was really good. Pizza.
Speaker 2: Wow, did you eat the whole thing?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I had half, Jamie the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Deliterious. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so highly recommend. The oscars were yesterday and the
Speaker 3: speeches from some of the actors were so expanding, so
Speaker 3: we popped them up on the Instagram. So I'd highly
Speaker 3: recommend you guys check that out if you missed that
Speaker 3: going up last night, because it was just so heartwarming.
Speaker 2: Yay, I love that so much.
Speaker 1: I love that You're just such a pop like pop
Speaker 1: culture queen. Like when you're like the oscars were, say,
Speaker 1: I was like, what what of the else? Literally one
Speaker 1: of those? But look, you keep us. I feel like
Speaker 1: you keep us a bit current. Yeah, otherwise I would
Speaker 1: literally not know what's happening around me.
Speaker 3: What about you? How was your week?
Speaker 1: I had a fantastic week. I was the last half
Speaker 1: of last week. I was away on a business. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of just a new person.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: No, I just yeah, look, I'm still processing a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very profound, very out of my comfort zone. Met some
Speaker 1: fucking credible people. We held so much space for each other,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, it was like this new fucking
Speaker 1: level and stand in that I had, like I hadn't
Speaker 1: experienced before, and so that in itself like life changing
Speaker 1: to experience like a I can't yeah, I can't really explain.
Speaker 1: I really want to unpack it with you guys, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will in an episode. Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: was incredible. I'm so glad because I wasn't gonna go.
Speaker 1: It was like one of those I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's for me, you know, in
Speaker 1: my head about it, and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'll go and see what happens. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I like went, And I know this
Speaker 1: is like my theme right now. But guys, if there
Speaker 1: is something where you're like, I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's like pushing you and you know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be outside your comfort zone, like just do it. I
Speaker 1: love that so much, and it's like because I'm like
Speaker 1: such this person of like, oh, I'm an introvert, like
Speaker 1: being around you know, seventeen old women for four days straight,
Speaker 1: like I just didn't know how it was gonna go,
Speaker 1: but it expanded me so much. And it also was
Speaker 1: such a cool like, fuck, I can do this, like
Speaker 1: I can you know, be, I can go internal and
Speaker 1: I can hold this sort of work for four days
Speaker 1: straight and I can actually fucking shot really well.
Speaker 2: So it was really cool.
Speaker 3: I love that so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was fucking amazing. I'm like on a bit of
Speaker 1: a high from it. But also I.
Speaker 2: Fucking just feel so grounded.
Speaker 1: I'm you know that feeling of like, oh there's big
Speaker 1: shit happening inside. Yeah, you know that feeling and you
Speaker 1: just like and they're smiling. Oh I can feel it.
Speaker 1: So look really excited about that. But on that note,
Speaker 1: let's get into this episode. It's so bloody good.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Melissa Jefferson, who's that also known
Speaker 3: as Lizzo, and she is an American rapper and singer.
Speaker 2: Can I ask why Lizzo? So that makes sense.
Speaker 3: It was actually a mix I think of Melissa and
Speaker 3: a song she wrote, or a song she liked, which
Speaker 3: was like Rizzo or something. I'm not one hundred percent sure,
Speaker 3: but that's where the nickname Lizzo came. And it was
Speaker 3: quite early in her career as well that she got
Speaker 3: that little nickname. Love that.
Speaker 1: So she sif you'r a nickname, yes, it's currently just
Speaker 1: a dog.
Speaker 3: What's yours? G G yeah.
Speaker 1: G banger ga wagon. The guys were still going to
Speaker 1: make underwear. Sorry, we go on, we have way too much.
Speaker 3: So she was born as the youngest of three children,
Speaker 3: and her parents actually worked in the mortgage industry. It's
Speaker 3: just a fun fact, not that. So she grew up
Speaker 3: listening mainly to gospel music in church, and at the
Speaker 3: age of ten, her family moved to Houston.
Speaker 2: Can I ask what gospel means?
Speaker 3: Gospel is like church music, so like the very like
Speaker 3: praise God, very big voices, singers that sort of have
Speaker 3: you watched Sister.
Speaker 2: Act, Yeah, so that's sort of amazing.
Speaker 3: And so at the age of ten, her family moved
Speaker 3: to Houston, where she began to be exposed to other
Speaker 3: music styles. So she also started training as a classical
Speaker 3: flautist until she graduated high school in two thousand and six.
Speaker 3: So from age ten to eighteen, she was being classically
Speaker 3: trained to play the flute. She spent years trying to
Speaker 3: break into the music industry as part of various girl
Speaker 3: groups both in and out of high school, so she
Speaker 3: started trying while she was in high school. After graduating
Speaker 3: high school, she attended the University of Houston on a
Speaker 3: music scholarship and she continued to study the flute with
Speaker 3: the goal to eventually be in a professional orchestra.
Speaker 1: Wow, I know, and that just like so beautiful, how
Speaker 1: like your journey can change.
Speaker 3: So I know, and like she was training from when
Speaker 3: she was ten to do this thing, and she put
Speaker 3: in those hours and the ten thousand hours and she
Speaker 3: changed her mind, which I'd love. So in the second
Speaker 3: year of UNI for her, she actually ended up leaving.
Speaker 3: And this was due to the pressure she felt trying
Speaker 3: to choose between rap and classical music. So basically like
Speaker 3: her singing career and being a flautist, and also her
Speaker 3: father was getting very sick, all of that together just
Speaker 3: put too much pressure on her to be able to continue.
Speaker 3: So in two thousand and nine, twenty one year old
Speaker 3: Lizzo actually ended up struggling with depression from the loss
Speaker 3: of her father, poor body image, and an overall lack
Speaker 3: of purpose. So during this time, for a period, she
Speaker 3: was also homeless, living out of her car or crashing
Speaker 3: on friends couches and flows. I really remember this one
Speaker 3: clip where she was speaking about she actually slept on
Speaker 3: her drummer's floor, but her drummer lived in a sharehouse,
Speaker 3: so she was crashing on her drummer who lived in
Speaker 3: a sharehouse's floor in his one bedroom that he had,
Speaker 3: because that was just what she had to do at
Speaker 3: the time. And after that, she said that her life
Speaker 3: really started to turn around once she stopped comparing herself
Speaker 3: to others and embraced who she was. So she got
Speaker 3: her first taste of success with her electro pop duo
Speaker 3: called Lizo and the Lava Ink, and also had success
Speaker 3: with an all female rap and R and B group
Speaker 3: called The Chalice. So this group actually started to really
Speaker 3: elevate Lizzo's profile and her reputation. Once The Chalice the
Speaker 3: group became successful, her duo Lizzo and the Lava Ink
Speaker 3: started to fall apart because she was trying to juggle
Speaker 3: both at the same time, and Lozo struggled with having
Speaker 3: the continuing success of the one group, but having another
Speaker 3: fall apart and fall away because you're obviously losing the
Speaker 3: people too that are involved in that. And once she
Speaker 3: began to gain more attention for her collaborations, Lizzo also
Speaker 3: started working on solo material, which she described as quote
Speaker 3: unquote feel good music. This music was always backed by
Speaker 3: an upbeat sound. Her songs often featured positive and sometimes
Speaker 3: funny lyrics that touched on issues such as race, body confidence,
Speaker 3: and low self esteem. She also featured her flute playing
Speaker 3: in the music as well, which I love just using
Speaker 3: her little skill there. So her third full length album
Speaker 3: was called Because I Love You. In this she released
Speaker 3: the songs Juice, Jerome, and Tempo. I'll play a quick
Speaker 3: clip of Juice now, just so that you guys know,
Speaker 3: because I knew these songs when I listened to them,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't sure what they were by name. So
Speaker 3: we'll play a quick snippet of Juice for you. As
Speaker 3: part of the deluxe version, she also released the bonus
Speaker 3: track Truth Hurts, So we'll play a little snippet no
Speaker 3: man or.
Speaker 5: The men of fighting.
Speaker 3: This song, Truth Hurts actually became her first single to
Speaker 3: top the Billboard one hundred chart This deluxe version of
Speaker 3: the album also featured the song good as Hell, which
Speaker 3: I think a lot of you will know, but we'll
Speaker 3: play a quick snippet now too.
Speaker 5: I do my.
Speaker 3: Hat toms check my next, maybe how you feeling?
Speaker 4: Hats check my next, maybe.
Speaker 3: How you feeling? After this, Lizzie actually became the third
Speaker 3: female rapper to top the Hot one hundred without a
Speaker 3: featured artist with her, which is an insane achievement. She
Speaker 3: also became the first black solo female R and B
Speaker 3: singer to claim the top spot on the Hot one
Speaker 3: hundred since Rihanna's twenty twelve hit Diamonds, which just blows
Speaker 3: my mind that it took that long. Yeah what Yeah?
Speaker 3: And so the song Truth Hurts also won a Grammy
Speaker 3: for Best Pop Solo Performance. And this album was very
Speaker 3: much a churning point Lizo's career and she began to
Speaker 3: garner more mainstream attention. Personally, I didn't know about her
Speaker 3: before this album either, Like these songs really were where
Speaker 3: I discovered who she was. And Lizzo's success continued with
Speaker 3: the album Special, which was released in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: which also became her first recording to reach number one
Speaker 3: on Billboard's album Sales chart. So this is her most recent,
Speaker 3: most recent album, which has songs like about Damn Time
Speaker 3: and to Be Loved. I'm sure you've heard these. They
Speaker 3: went viral on TikTok, they were just everywhere. And who's
Speaker 3: currently touring with this album? And I have a little
Speaker 3: random fun fact about this tour which I love. She
Speaker 3: was given the opportunity to play a two hundred year
Speaker 3: old crystal flute while on this tour and it belonged
Speaker 3: to the fourth President of the United States, James Madison.
Speaker 3: I just want to add a little clip of her
Speaker 3: playing that here. Will also share a clip of this
Speaker 3: on Socials because she actually tworked while playing the flute,
Speaker 3: which I just think is so iconic.
Speaker 2: Happening right now, but I love it.
Speaker 3: She's playing a two hundred year old crystal flute that
Speaker 3: no one's played before and just tworking in a sparklet
Speaker 3: body suit, and it's the best thing ever.
Speaker 5: Just history tonight, making history, sting cool. History is.
Speaker 3: So in this album. The song about Damn Time also
Speaker 3: went to number one and has won two Grammys, including
Speaker 3: Record of the Year. Georgie, I know you and I
Speaker 3: both personally adored her acceptance speech when she won these Grammys,
Speaker 3: and we just wanted to put a little snippet of
Speaker 3: that in here for you guys as well.
Speaker 4: I want to dedicate this award to Princes. When we
Speaker 4: lost Prince, I decided to dedicate my life to making
Speaker 4: positive music. And I was like, I don't care if
Speaker 4: my positivity bother you, what's wrong with you? And this
Speaker 4: was at a time when positive music and feel good
Speaker 4: music wasn't mainstream at that point, and I felt very misunderstood.
Speaker 4: I felt on the outside looking in, But I stayed
Speaker 4: true to myself because I wanted to make the world
Speaker 4: a better place. So I had to be that change
Speaker 4: to make the world a better place. And now I
Speaker 4: look around and there's all these songs that are about
Speaker 4: loving our bodies and feeling comfortable in our skin and
Speaker 4: feeling fucking good. And I'm just so proud to be
Speaker 4: a part of it. Because in a world that there's
Speaker 4: a lot of darkness and a lot of scary shit,
Speaker 4: I'd like to believe that not only can people.
Speaker 3: Do good, but we just are good.
Speaker 4: We are good inherently. Anybody at home who feels misunderstood
Speaker 4: or on the outside looking in, like I did just
Speaker 4: stay true to yourself, because I promise you you will
Speaker 4: find people, You will attract people in your life who
Speaker 4: believe in you and support you. I want to thank
Speaker 4: y'all for believing in me and supporting me.
Speaker 1: I am literally obsessed with Lizzo mean too.
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think the reason why I love her so
Speaker 1: much because first of all, I remember, I feel like
Speaker 1: I've randomly found her on like TikTok or Instagram, actually
Speaker 1: found her on social media beforehand, and then I heard
Speaker 1: the songs and like put two two together and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's Lisso I.
Speaker 3: Think that might have happened for me as well. Actually, yeah, like.
Speaker 1: One of her videos, like because her videos go viral
Speaker 1: because she is so authentically herself. Yes, And that is
Speaker 1: my favorite part about her is she is just like
Speaker 1: this is me, take it or leave it, and I'm
Speaker 1: not fucking listening to your shit. That is the vibe,
Speaker 1: Like that's the frequency, and I'm like, I just am
Speaker 1: so attracted to that in her and.
Speaker 2: I really love too.
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't seen any artists like her
Speaker 1: before for sure, like completely. I even remember like looking
Speaker 1: at our social media and thinking, oh my god, she's
Speaker 1: so different, she's so herself and.
Speaker 3: Just loving that.
Speaker 1: Yes, Like even we were chatting about AuthoriTea of her
Speaker 1: acceptance speech where she think Beyonce and was like, you
Speaker 1: were my idol, and I feel like Beyonce's everyone's idole.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: So I just don't life because I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we're the same Lisser. I love because she really reframed
Speaker 1: like women women of color artis Yes, completely, because even
Speaker 1: and definitely fight me on this point here, like even
Speaker 1: with Beyonce, amazing incredible women of color, Yeah, breaking the boundaries,
Speaker 1: but still you know, in the realm of society's ideals
Speaker 1: of what beauty.
Speaker 3: Is, yes, very very I think, especially when it comes
Speaker 3: to like body image and size. Yes, she's very like
Speaker 3: your ideal fits. Yeah, And even if you look at
Speaker 3: other artists, female artists that a woman of color like
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lopez and Shakira and even Rhianna all very much
Speaker 3: fall into that even though their skin tone might not
Speaker 3: be society's ideal, their body is. And the fact that
Speaker 3: Lizo not only defied that with her skin tone but
Speaker 3: also her body image is just I think amazing and
Speaker 3: it just goes to show like Beyonce would have definitely
Speaker 3: been an expander for Lizzo. But I think there's still
Speaker 3: like a lot of extra barriers that Lizo would have
Speaker 3: had to fight through, especially in the entertainment industry to
Speaker 3: get to where she has and have the success that
Speaker 3: she has had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, especially like the theme of this
Speaker 1: episode is, you guys know, we love locking into expanders,
Speaker 1: we love finding expanders, and this is what this whole
Speaker 1: series is about. But the thing I love about Lizo
Speaker 1: is she maybe didn't even have an expander and she
Speaker 1: really created her own, her own realm of what she
Speaker 1: wanted to be. Yes, Because I think sometimes and I've
Speaker 1: been very open about this, even me at the moment,
Speaker 1: with an expander, it's not like there's someone so specific
Speaker 1: that I'm like, I want my life to look exactly
Speaker 1: like this person, and even toying with the well what
Speaker 1: do I actually want and what does it mean to
Speaker 1: be truly authentically me? Yes, And I love that she's
Speaker 1: like just gone and done the.
Speaker 3: Thing, Yes, exactly. And I think, like what you said
Speaker 3: on having an expander, it's a bit of a mind boggle,
Speaker 3: but you're almost limiting yourself or giving yourself a box
Speaker 3: to fit in, a box to fit in, and box.
Speaker 2: Might be at box.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and steps to take because you because that's what
Speaker 3: that person did to get to where they are, whereas
Speaker 3: your journey is going to be so different. Having an
Speaker 3: expander is almost also limiting yourself to a certain series
Speaker 3: of steps to get to your end goal, whereas your
Speaker 3: journey might be so different and could be even better.
Speaker 1: I love this, and this is what you know. The
Speaker 1: thought provoking question of this episode is where are you
Speaker 1: even limiting yourself because there is no one around you
Speaker 1: who has modeled the thing.
Speaker 3: And I think something I like to look at when
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find expanders for myself is not necessarily
Speaker 3: what they've done. It's more how far they've gone and
Speaker 3: the values that they like almost use in everything they do.
Speaker 3: So for example, obviously in the first episode of this series,
Speaker 3: we talked about Venus and Serena Williams, and I, by
Speaker 3: no means feel any pool to become a professional tennis player.
Speaker 2: I'm quite sure I could teach it.
Speaker 3: We'll get him in for a lesson every day six hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just need ten thousand hours.
Speaker 3: But I admire their determination and their grit and that's
Speaker 3: what expands me, is I want to have that level
Speaker 3: of grit in whatever I do. Or Whitney Wolf heard
Speaker 3: with her integrity and how aligne she was in everything
Speaker 3: she did. I might not want to have a tech startup,
Speaker 3: but I want to have that level of integrity in
Speaker 3: everything I do and just have those values almost just
Speaker 3: like come out of me where wherever I am. And
Speaker 3: I think Lizzo is just like a perfect example for
Speaker 3: anyone of you can admire people and have them expand
Speaker 3: you and have their journeys inspire you and remind you
Speaker 3: that you can do anything you want. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, you are the only person that
Speaker 3: is going to do what you do in life, and
Speaker 3: in a way, you'll always be the first, so you're
Speaker 3: going to have that resistance and even if historically you
Speaker 3: might not be the first, Like Lizzo definitely isn't the
Speaker 3: first black woman to win a Grammy on that sort
Speaker 3: of stuff, but she is the first Lizo.
Speaker 2: And to do it in her way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so different to everyone else. And I know
Speaker 3: we had to chat about this too, and that Beyonce
Speaker 3: is amazing and so typical of like everyone's idol Quinn
Speaker 3: Bee and she's very polished and graceful and elegance, and
Speaker 3: Lizo is she's.
Speaker 2: Like the opposite.
Speaker 3: She's not polish, She's not polish, she's raw.
Speaker 2: I actually I was singing to the other day.
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like so many you know,
Speaker 1: pop stars, and they like they would one hundred percent
Speaker 1: have people auditing their social media posts before they go up,
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, and they can just tell Lizzo does it,
Speaker 1: which I love because that's what I mean, Like, You're
Speaker 1: truly getting the most authentic her raw in the moment.
Speaker 1: And I also love because I think, like, for example,
Speaker 1: Lizo can say something and then fucking do something different
Speaker 1: the next day, and I wouldn't care no, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: she is embracing her whole self in that moment, and
Speaker 1: I love that she shares It's like, shares it with
Speaker 1: us because it then gives me permission to do the same.
Speaker 1: And that's really what I get from her, of like
Speaker 1: I'm allowed to change, I'm allowed to evolved. I'm allowed
Speaker 1: to feel this so deeply in this moment and not
Speaker 1: be worried about what people are going to think or
Speaker 1: if I might change my mind.
Speaker 3: Or like if in five years time and opinion like
Speaker 3: that will be outdated or not. Yeah, because a lot
Speaker 3: of especially in like the media and that sort of stuff,
Speaker 3: anyone with a platform is very refined in what they say.
Speaker 3: So it's to not be controversial, yeah, not get canceled,
Speaker 3: not get canceled or the potential of getting canceled down
Speaker 3: the line. But she's not like that. But also, no
Speaker 3: one's ever had a problem with.
Speaker 1: Her, No, And she she's so conscious and like she's
Speaker 1: like not hurting anyone. Yeah, she's just like so like
Speaker 1: so herself. And also can we talk about like her
Speaker 1: thing of just wanting to put out positive music, Like
Speaker 1: that was the bit who when it clicked for me
Speaker 1: in her acceptance speech, and I was like, that is
Speaker 1: so true. Like her music is so uplifting and so
Speaker 1: positive and so raw that that's what is so attractive
Speaker 1: for me personally in her music.
Speaker 3: And I feel like there's almost been this massive shift
Speaker 3: in the music industry in these last few years of
Speaker 3: positive music now becoming more mainstream because when I think
Speaker 3: back to like I don't know, twenty twelve, when I
Speaker 3: was like in high school and all these songs were
Speaker 3: coming out, they were all either really sad, like depressing
Speaker 3: those love ballads your heart got broken or someone.
Speaker 1: Dies, treating you like cheating you like shit was a
Speaker 1: massive because then can I just quickly interject here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't you also realize that that music was like normalizing
Speaker 1: than our experiences?
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's why I love that.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, we actually get to normalize things being
Speaker 1: fucking good and us owning our like power.
Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, continue.
Speaker 3: No, exactly that, and like it filtered through every aspect
Speaker 3: of your life, and like the other songs that you'd
Speaker 3: hear in the clubs, like break your Heart is the
Speaker 3: one that comes to my head by Taya Cruz, where
Speaker 3: he's like You're only gonna break my heart. You're only
Speaker 3: gonna break my heart, Like what kind of trust issues
Speaker 3: are you going to end up with after listening to that?
Speaker 2: I love us fully being like be careful what music.
Speaker 3: Said, but it's so true.
Speaker 1: So I've really been playing with this concept of like
Speaker 1: what are you normalizing in your world with the music
Speaker 1: you listen to and the things you watch and the
Speaker 1: social media you consume.
Speaker 3: It's those are like almost like not evily brainwashing, but
Speaker 3: brainwashing you.
Speaker 1: Well that's even like because I had this huge realization
Speaker 1: we're going off a little we're going a little bit
Speaker 1: off topic here, but bear with us, guys, that I
Speaker 1: was really addicted to drama and like reality shows the drama.
Speaker 2: And it's so interesting because I also.
Speaker 1: Used to say this line of I don't like drama
Speaker 1: in my personal life, but I love watching it. And
Speaker 1: then I remember thinking, but why do I love watching it? Yes,
Speaker 1: and fully calling myself out and going there, there's something here.
Speaker 1: There's you know, a subconscious Georgie who fucking loves drama,
Speaker 1: and she gets to indulge in that, you know, with
Speaker 1: the reality TV, with the movies and whatnot. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that's bad or good. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it was very interesting to notice that
Speaker 1: I'm so curious.
Speaker 5: I'm curious, not.
Speaker 2: Curious, guys.
Speaker 1: And then once I like acknowledge that, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I actually don't want to normalize drama like that or
Speaker 1: people like that or situations like that, so I'm actually
Speaker 1: not gonna watch it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you say that, because I've had a
Speaker 3: pivot sort of I'd say the last six ish months
Speaker 3: where I used to love like you said reality TV
Speaker 3: those sorts of things, and my parents would always say,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it's killing your brain. It's like it's
Speaker 3: mind numbing. You need to stop watching that. I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: like I would just shut up. I would always say like, oh,
Speaker 3: like I just need something mindless to watch, Like I
Speaker 3: don't want to absorb anything. I just want to watch
Speaker 3: something that's easy to watch. That was like my excuse.
Speaker 1: When I would yeah, like the one liner you have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that justifies what I'm doing. I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 3: just want to watch some trash TV because I don't
Speaker 3: want to like learn anything right now or watch something intense.
Speaker 3: Then I'm not gonna sa brain.
Speaker 2: I'm from my exhausting job.
Speaker 3: Georg, and I now cannot stand reality TV interesting like
Speaker 3: I used to love like we're the same person, maybe
Speaker 3: like married at first sight. I would love watching it
Speaker 3: because I'm like, oh my gosh, this is interesting. And
Speaker 3: even on that one, I'd use the excuse of like
Speaker 3: it's just so interesting to watch their relationship dynamics. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But like now, I literally tried to watch it the
Speaker 3: other day because my friend loves it, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I know, it was like five minutes and yeah, and
Speaker 3: I've just started filling my time with other things or
Speaker 3: like got into bed earlier. Yeah, and it's making that
Speaker 3: shift or like just going to sleep, even like the
Speaker 3: podcasts I listened to, Yeah, it's about.
Speaker 1: Like what am I normalizing in my life and just
Speaker 1: bringing it back to Lizzo. Yeah, of like I love
Speaker 1: and I really had that aha moment when she did
Speaker 1: her speech of like, no, I actually want to put
Speaker 1: out positive music and that gets to be the normal
Speaker 1: even though it wasn't embraced mainstream. I truly believe she
Speaker 1: was on the forefront of positive music hundred percent and
Speaker 1: not just fucking talking about.
Speaker 3: Some breakup or some shit so exhausting over it, and
Speaker 3: like not having everything be about pain all the time,
Speaker 3: or like good art coming from pain, it can come
Speaker 3: from any emotion and being amplified. And I adore her
Speaker 3: for that reason. And I think that even though it
Speaker 3: wasn't normalized at the time, and she obviously did battle
Speaker 3: with a lot of things, trying to fit into boxes
Speaker 3: and being in these girls, she's very open about her
Speaker 3: battle with body image and her battle with herself, and
Speaker 3: I love that she said quite a few times of
Speaker 3: like her life changed when she accepted herself.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I just I think it's so huge because
Speaker 1: I think so many of us and I even do
Speaker 1: this of even though I'm like, oh, I accept myself
Speaker 1: and I love myself, there would be certain aspects of
Speaker 1: me that I truly don't accept that I truly think
Speaker 1: should be different or should be a certain way. That
Speaker 1: is then leaking my energy, that is then limiting me, Yes,
Speaker 1: limiting you know, my full power of what I truly
Speaker 1: could be.
Speaker 2: As whole Georgie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm too worried about putting a mask on
Speaker 1: these certain aspects of me or wanting to change that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm linking energy.
Speaker 3: M And it's almost like when you have those insecurities
Speaker 3: or you haven't embraced yourself, you will stop yourself from
Speaker 3: accepting opportunities when they come up because of those insecurities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or you just want to attract them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, almost like how you were toying with best and Less. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And if say someone who wasn't as self aware had
Speaker 3: something come up like that and their body was an
Speaker 3: insecurity for them, they just wouldn't have done the campaign.
Speaker 2: They would have said no.
Speaker 3: They would have said no. But because you know how
Speaker 3: you think and you know how you are, and you
Speaker 3: didn't have that realization of like, oh my gosh, no,
Speaker 3: the reason I'm so uncomfortable is the reason I actually
Speaker 3: have to do this. You won't lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it really like and that's I even look
Speaker 1: back at doing that Best and Less campaign and just
Speaker 1: so much good came for it, Like the most was
Speaker 1: just the internal awareness and me also doing something out
Speaker 1: of my comfort zone and then.
Speaker 2: Getting to the point where you have that when you.
Speaker 1: Let yourself lead and you have that self trust of
Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable, but I'm going to do this thing. It's
Speaker 1: like strengthening that muscle. And I hadn't done that in
Speaker 1: a while. I had actually been very comfortable and you know,
Speaker 1: just gotten on top of you know, motherhood. And it
Speaker 1: was such an amazing experience for me internally, like it
Speaker 1: shifted so much for me personally, and then also on
Speaker 1: the outside of you know, I had people messaging me
Speaker 1: being like, oh my god, you've actually just given me
Speaker 1: permission to completely rock my postpart and.
Speaker 2: Body and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that, but I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that in itself, like if one person feels
Speaker 1: like that because I did a campaign like that in itself. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I love that. It's like, you literally are never
Speaker 1: going to go wrong if you're looking into am I
Speaker 1: actually limiting myself? And where can I actually step out
Speaker 1: of my comfort zone and just like do the thing
Speaker 1: because it's wholly me?
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything to add.
Speaker 3: So, I think like what people can really learn from
Speaker 3: Lizo's journey is when you try to fit in a box,
Speaker 3: you're going to attract the opportunities and things and people
Speaker 3: into your life that align with that box. And it's
Speaker 3: never gonna feel right because that box is not you.
Speaker 3: And you'll also struggle to get success in that box
Speaker 3: because one you're limiting yourself by trying to be somebody
Speaker 3: else that that spot's almost already in the world, Like
Speaker 3: you're not going to get to where that person went
Speaker 3: because they're already there and there's not any more like
Speaker 3: the space for one person to be exactly as where
Speaker 3: that person is. And you need to carve your own
Speaker 3: path and be you and attract the right things and
Speaker 3: opportunities to yourself that align with who you are. And
Speaker 3: it might be similar like yes, you might still be
Speaker 3: an incredibly successful singer, but Lizo is not Beyonce, and
Speaker 3: Beyonce is not Lizzo.
Speaker 2: So powerful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think just remembering that in that have
Speaker 3: your expanders, have your goals, have your dreams, but also
Speaker 3: remember that your journey will look different, It's not going
Speaker 3: to be exactly the same.
Speaker 2: And absolutely embrace that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have loved this episode so much, and I have
Speaker 1: loved doing this series with you so much.
Speaker 2: A tr mean too, I love it, guys.
Speaker 3: Let us know if you want a few more of these, Yeah,
Speaker 3: let us.
Speaker 1: Know because as you as you guys know, we love
Speaker 1: talking about these topics but really bringing them back to
Speaker 1: women that we found so inspiring and empowering and really
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Speaker 1: to resonate but really question, yeah, you know ourselves and
Speaker 1: how we are leading our life has been so powerful
Speaker 1: and like, just within doing this a series a tear,
Speaker 1: I've had so many like aha moments and realizations and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, got some.
Speaker 2: Work to do it give him a journal.
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