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Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this

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Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging and extend

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Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

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Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the

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Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which

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Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix

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Speaker 1: soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think

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Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your

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Speaker 1: besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are

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Speaker 1: in your journey, we're here to help you be curious,

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Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're

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Speaker 1: ready to get into the driver's seat of your own

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Speaker 2: Then you're in the right place.

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We have such a fun episode for you today and it.

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Speaker 2: Is the final part of our Her Story.

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Speaker 1: Series and we're talking about the one and only Lizzo.

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Speaker 3: We love it so much.

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Speaker 2: We love Lizzo so much. So, guys, if you don't

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Speaker 2: know in her story.

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Speaker 1: This is where we share the stories of iconic women

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Speaker 1: who have made history or who we feel are currently

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Speaker 1: making history. These women are trailblazers in their chosen careers

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Speaker 1: and are doing things differently, which you know we love.

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Speaker 1: We then unpack certain aspects and values that they model

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Speaker 1: in everything they do and discuss how we can use

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Speaker 1: and how she has integrity.

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Speaker 1: What we really want you guys to start thinking about

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Speaker 1: through this series is what legacy or impact you are leaving.

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Speaker 1: Could you do things differently, could you think outside the box?

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Speaker 1: And how can you push yourself outside your comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into the show, a tea update us.

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Speaker 2: On your week.

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Speaker 3: I had a pretty fun week.

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Speaker 2: Tell us more.

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Speaker 3: I did a cooking class on Sunday with Jamie. It

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Speaker 3: was so much fun. I'd love that for you too,

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Speaker 3: so much. A pizza class and then I dropped my

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Speaker 3: I was like, great.

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Speaker 2: A tea I'm really just not surprised.

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Speaker 3: It's only embarrassed if you're embarrassed, and I'm not embarrassed,

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: I love it, And like, what did they taste?

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Speaker 3: Oh it was so young?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did the dough from scratch and everything, so

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Speaker 3: I had half, Jamie the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so highly recommend. The oscars were yesterday and the

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Speaker 3: speeches from some of the actors were so expanding, so

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Speaker 3: we popped them up on the Instagram. So I'd highly

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Speaker 3: going up last night, because it was just so heartwarming.

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Speaker 1: I love that You're just such a pop like pop

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Speaker 1: I had a fantastic week. I was the last half

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Melissa Jefferson, who's that also known

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Speaker 2: Can I ask why Lizzo? So that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: It was actually a mix I think of Melissa and

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Speaker 3: So she was born as the youngest of three children,

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Speaker 1: Wow, I know, and that just like so beautiful, how

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Speaker 3: So I know, and like she was training from when

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Speaker 3: the songs Juice, Jerome, and Tempo. I'll play a quick

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Speaker 3: This song, Truth Hurts actually became her first single to

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Speaker 3: Hat toms check my next, maybe how you feeling?

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Speaker 4: Hats check my next, maybe.

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Speaker 3: How you feeling? After this, Lizzie actually became the third

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that's why I love that.

441
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Speaker 1: She's like, no, we actually get to normalize things being

442
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Speaker 1: fucking good and us owning our like power.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, continue.

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00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: No, exactly that, and like it filtered through every aspect

445
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 3: of your life, and like the other songs that you'd

446
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Speaker 3: hear in the clubs, like break your Heart is the

447
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: one that comes to my head by Taya Cruz, where

448
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 3: he's like You're only gonna break my heart. You're only

449
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: gonna break my heart, Like what kind of trust issues

450
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Speaker 3: are you going to end up with after listening to that?

451
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Speaker 2: I love us fully being like be careful what music.

452
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: Said, but it's so true.

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Speaker 1: So I've really been playing with this concept of like

454
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Speaker 1: what are you normalizing in your world with the music

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Speaker 1: you listen to and the things you watch and the

456
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Speaker 1: social media you consume.

457
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 3: It's those are like almost like not evily brainwashing, but

458
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Speaker 3: brainwashing you.

459
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Speaker 1: Well that's even like because I had this huge realization

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Speaker 1: we're going off a little we're going a little bit

461
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Speaker 1: off topic here, but bear with us, guys, that I

462
00:27:53,840 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: was really addicted to drama and like reality shows the drama.

463
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: And it's so interesting because I also.

464
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: Used to say this line of I don't like drama

465
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Speaker 1: in my personal life, but I love watching it. And

466
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: then I remember thinking, but why do I love watching it? Yes,

467
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: and fully calling myself out and going there, there's something here.

468
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Speaker 1: There's you know, a subconscious Georgie who fucking loves drama,

469
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: and she gets to indulge in that, you know, with

470
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Speaker 1: the reality TV, with the movies and whatnot. And I'm

471
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Speaker 1: not saying that's bad or good. I'm not saying that.

472
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it was very interesting to notice that

473
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Speaker 1: I'm so curious.

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Speaker 5: I'm curious, not.

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Speaker 2: Curious, guys.

476
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Speaker 1: And then once I like acknowledge that, and I was like,

477
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Speaker 1: I actually don't want to normalize drama like that or

478
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Speaker 1: people like that or situations like that, so I'm actually

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00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: not gonna watch it.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you say that, because I've had a

481
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Speaker 3: pivot sort of I'd say the last six ish months

482
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Speaker 3: where I used to love like you said reality TV

483
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: those sorts of things, and my parents would always say,

484
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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it's killing your brain. It's like it's

485
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Speaker 3: mind numbing. You need to stop watching that. I'm like, no,

486
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Speaker 3: like I would just shut up. I would always say like, oh,

487
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: like I just need something mindless to watch, Like I

488
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: don't want to absorb anything. I just want to watch

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Speaker 3: something that's easy to watch. That was like my excuse.

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00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: When I would yeah, like the one liner you have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that justifies what I'm doing. I'm like, oh, I

492
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: just want to watch some trash TV because I don't

493
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: want to like learn anything right now or watch something intense.

494
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: Then I'm not gonna sa brain.

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Speaker 2: I'm from my exhausting job.

496
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Speaker 3: Georg, and I now cannot stand reality TV interesting like

497
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: I used to love like we're the same person, maybe

498
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: like married at first sight. I would love watching it

499
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: because I'm like, oh my gosh, this is interesting. And

500
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: even on that one, I'd use the excuse of like

501
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: it's just so interesting to watch their relationship dynamics. Yeah,

502
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: But like now, I literally tried to watch it the

503
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: other day because my friend loves it, and I'm like,

504
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: I know, it was like five minutes and yeah, and

505
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: I've just started filling my time with other things or

506
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: like got into bed earlier. Yeah, and it's making that

507
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: shift or like just going to sleep, even like the

508
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: podcasts I listened to, Yeah, it's about.

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Speaker 1: Like what am I normalizing in my life and just

510
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: bringing it back to Lizzo. Yeah, of like I love

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Speaker 1: and I really had that aha moment when she did

512
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Speaker 1: her speech of like, no, I actually want to put

513
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: out positive music and that gets to be the normal

514
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: even though it wasn't embraced mainstream. I truly believe she

515
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: was on the forefront of positive music hundred percent and

516
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: not just fucking talking about.

517
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: Some breakup or some shit so exhausting over it, and

518
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: like not having everything be about pain all the time,

519
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: or like good art coming from pain, it can come

520
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: from any emotion and being amplified. And I adore her

521
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: for that reason. And I think that even though it

522
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: wasn't normalized at the time, and she obviously did battle

523
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: with a lot of things, trying to fit into boxes

524
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: and being in these girls, she's very open about her

525
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: battle with body image and her battle with herself, and

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00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: I love that she said quite a few times of

527
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: like her life changed when she accepted herself.

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00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: Yes, And I just I think it's so huge because

529
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: I think so many of us and I even do

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Speaker 1: this of even though I'm like, oh, I accept myself

531
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: and I love myself, there would be certain aspects of

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00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: me that I truly don't accept that I truly think

533
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: should be different or should be a certain way. That

534
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: is then leaking my energy, that is then limiting me, Yes,

535
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: limiting you know, my full power of what I truly

536
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: could be.

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Speaker 2: As whole Georgie.

538
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm too worried about putting a mask on

539
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: these certain aspects of me or wanting to change that.

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00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm linking energy.

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Speaker 3: M And it's almost like when you have those insecurities

542
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: or you haven't embraced yourself, you will stop yourself from

543
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: accepting opportunities when they come up because of those insecurities.

544
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, or you just want to attract them.

545
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, almost like how you were toying with best and Less. Yeah.

546
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: And if say someone who wasn't as self aware had

547
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: something come up like that and their body was an

548
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: insecurity for them, they just wouldn't have done the campaign.

549
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: They would have said no.

550
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: They would have said no. But because you know how

551
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: you think and you know how you are, and you

552
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: didn't have that realization of like, oh my gosh, no,

553
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: the reason I'm so uncomfortable is the reason I actually

554
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: have to do this. You won't lose.

555
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it really like and that's I even look

556
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: back at doing that Best and Less campaign and just

557
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: so much good came for it, Like the most was

558
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: just the internal awareness and me also doing something out

559
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: of my comfort zone and then.

560
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: Getting to the point where you have that when you.

561
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: Let yourself lead and you have that self trust of

562
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable, but I'm going to do this thing. It's

563
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: like strengthening that muscle. And I hadn't done that in

564
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: a while. I had actually been very comfortable and you know,

565
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: just gotten on top of you know, motherhood. And it

566
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: was such an amazing experience for me internally, like it

567
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 1: shifted so much for me personally, and then also on

568
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: the outside of you know, I had people messaging me

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Speaker 1: being like, oh my god, you've actually just given me

570
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: permission to completely rock my postpart and.

571
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Body and stuff like that.

572
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that, but I was like, oh

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00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: my god, that in itself, like if one person feels

574
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: like that because I did a campaign like that in itself. Yeah, yeah,

575
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: Like I love that. It's like, you literally are never

576
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: going to go wrong if you're looking into am I

577
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: actually limiting myself? And where can I actually step out

578
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: of my comfort zone and just like do the thing

579
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: because it's wholly me?

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00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything to add.

581
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: So, I think like what people can really learn from

582
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: Lizo's journey is when you try to fit in a box,

583
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: you're going to attract the opportunities and things and people

584
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 3: into your life that align with that box. And it's

585
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: never gonna feel right because that box is not you.

586
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: And you'll also struggle to get success in that box

587
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: because one you're limiting yourself by trying to be somebody

588
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 3: else that that spot's almost already in the world, Like

589
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: you're not going to get to where that person went

590
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: because they're already there and there's not any more like

591
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 3: the space for one person to be exactly as where

592
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: that person is. And you need to carve your own

593
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: path and be you and attract the right things and

594
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: opportunities to yourself that align with who you are. And

595
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: it might be similar like yes, you might still be

596
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: an incredibly successful singer, but Lizo is not Beyonce, and

597
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: Beyonce is not Lizzo.

598
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: So powerful.

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00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think just remembering that in that have

600
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: your expanders, have your goals, have your dreams, but also

601
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: remember that your journey will look different, It's not going

602
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: to be exactly the same.

603
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Speaker 2: And absolutely embrace that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I have loved this episode so much, and I have

606
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Speaker 1: loved doing this series with you so much.

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Speaker 2: A tr mean too, I love it, guys.

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Speaker 3: Let us know if you want a few more of these, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let us.

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Speaker 1: Know because as you as you guys know, we love

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Speaker 1: talking about these topics but really bringing them back to

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Speaker 1: women that we found so inspiring and empowering and really

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Speaker 1: bringing in the lessons and being able to be able

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Speaker 1: to resonate but really question, yeah, you know ourselves and

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Speaker 1: how we are leading our life has been so powerful

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Speaker 1: and like, just within doing this a series a tear,

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Speaker 1: I've had so many like aha moments and realizations and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, got some.

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Speaker 2: Work to do it give him a journal.

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Speaker 1: So we have absolutely loved doing this A tiar. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for doing all the research on this.

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Speaker 1: It has just been incredible to see do your thing

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Speaker 1: and the RNC fam. I'm sure so thankful and yeah,

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Speaker 1: definitely let us know. Come in the Facebook group. Did

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Speaker 1: you like this series? What do you want us to

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Speaker 1: do next? We want to bring you content that inspires

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Speaker 1: lit up by this, so yeah, we hope you guys

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