WEBVTT - Mystery Solved! Joel Jackson did it, with talent 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.560 Welcome back to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.360 on this podcast, I'll be going behind the scenes with 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.640 the biggest players in television. I wanted to quickly say 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:11.800 thank you to the people who've been kind enough to 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.280 share the podcast. I had some international listeners who said 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.279 they really enjoyed the deep dive into documentary filmmaking with 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.160 Aaron Sedman. If you missed that episode, feel free to 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.360 jump back and check it out. I thoroughly enjoyed our 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:26.760 chat and the tea that he's built on Paris Hilton 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:31.280 was extraordinary. Speaking of extraordinary, I was listening to best 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.280 Mates with Blake Francis this week. He's a fellow Ossie 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.320 and a friend of mine. His podcast has just launched, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.960 which is hilarious because he has never actually listened to 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.839 a podcast before and is just giving friends slabs of 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.320 beer to open up and tell their deepest secrets. You 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.000 should check it out. It's quite fun. This week, I've 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.319 been watching Channel nine Celebrity Apprentice, which has been a 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.360 real lift from the previous seasons. I'm living for the 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.000 Veronica's meltdowns on and off the show, and I can't 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.440 wait to see this week's Cliffhanger on Big Brother on 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.840 Channel seven is getting down to the pointy end, and 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.720 people are getting really fired up about that on social media. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.839 But it was Halstrom on Netflix that I binge watch 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.440 and saw all five episodes over two nights. Ewan McGregor 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.320 plays the title role and the real life fashion designer. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.840 And let me tell you, this program is so addictive 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.840 you will smash it in two days. Let me tell 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.120 you also, if you loved Mayor of Eastown and the 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.840 actress who played Mayor's mum, Jeane Smart, She's got a 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.480 new series on Binge which is called Hacks, and it's 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.039 a comedy. And while it's quite light, it's very funny 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.399 and I guarantee you'll get some belly laughs out of 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.160 that one. Now today's guest is smoking hot. I have 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.520 the talented Joel Jackson. You may have heard me swooning 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.720 over him a couple of weeks back after attending a 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.000 screening of the new series of Missus Fish's Modern Murder Mysteries, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.280 which launches on Acorn TV on the seventh of June. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.200 He plays Missus Fisher's partner in more ways than one. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.880 But today he talks about his career which has included 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.000 award winning turns in Deadline, Gallipoli and Not the Boy 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.400 next Door, the latter having Joel play the iconic role 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.560 of Peter Allen. He studied at NIDER and now he's 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.800 one of Australia's most sought after actors. Joel's upbringing is 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:14.200 quite fascinating when you hear about his origins for equality 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.799 and storytelling. His parents seem absolutely amazing, and we'll get 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.520 into that as the podcast unfolds. I know you will 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.560 love this chat. He's very charming and intelligent, not to 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.880 mention ridiculously good looking. So let's get started. I'd like 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.760 to welcome you and Joel Jackson to the podcast. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.320 I grew up in a small town of Albany in 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:38.280 southwestern Australia. Actor Wood goes to Joel Jackson and I 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.760 do think that some of my best stuff was in Deadline. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.400 Joel Jackson stars as the adult Peter Allen. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:44.880 I think if you can do the right things for 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.240 an audience, they'll keep coming back. 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.679 This Fish is modern murder mysteries. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.880 This series is something that you can put on and 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.280 you'll immediately fall in love with your Franny Fish's Nie 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:56.320 Paragonfish act. 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.760 If you've loved your murder mysteries, you will love this 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:00.919 This young lady giving you trouble detective. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.600 Meet your heroes, because sometimes they actually are heroes. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:06.200 Get a mate. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.360 How are you, dude? 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.960 I'm well, I am really really well. How's your day 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:10.680 so good? 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:10.880 You know? 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.160 And I'm so excited to be chatting with you on 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.800 TV reload as we met a few weeks ago at 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.920 the Miss Fisher launch and I was hoping that we 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.440 would have a chance to have this chat before Miss 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.120 Fisher launched, which, by the way, Yes, Fisher Modern Murder 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.360 Mystery Series two will be available for the public on 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:33.320 Acorn streaming service on June seventh. I want to ask, though, 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.680 was it strange watching that first episode in a cinema 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:37.440 full of the media. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.400 Yeah, I mean the best thing is that you guys 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.080 are also friendly anyway. It's part of the job description 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.160 of media to kind of go like be friendly with this, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.000 and then all of a sudden, you guys get to 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.600 ask all the really hard hitting questions. So in a 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.400 way it was really lovely because you could also get 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.840 to hear and see people's reactions that otherwise you wouldn't. 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:55.960 Get to see. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.080 At home because it's not in a cinema and you're 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.240 not surrounded by people. So and what's best about it 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:02.080 was that you were with. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.080 The other cast members. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.119 So if I felt awkward, I was like, well, they're 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.480 feeling awkward too, so let's share this awkwardness together. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:09.400 So it was easier. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.880 Well, I'm still getting over those nineteen sixties bathers in 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.839 that widescreen shot with you emerging from the water. You know, 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.040 how scary is it to be exposed like that? And 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:21.159 did you not eat for a bit? 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.760 Yeah? I remember the meal afterwards. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.240 I think I had about four different sides of carbohydrates, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.600 and the two days beforehand, I didn't really have much 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.800 to eat apart from like a big glass of wine, 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.320 a red wine the night before. Apparently that really works. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.560 That's taken from Hugh Jackman's kind of diet plan. But yeah, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.640 it's a bit of a time capsule those moments. I 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.320 was joking about it with dad. Dad and I are 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.160 very competitive, and not only for zekee but fitness. He's 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.800 sixty four and he's kind of more jacked than I am. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.640 It's a little bit insane, but so this is my 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.880 challenge to him, if you may and it's on national TV. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:55.960 So the challenge for him is to get to that 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.640 place and then get on national TV. And until he does, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:00.760 I'm considered the man of the house, so I can 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.640 deal with that. But what was more intimidating, What has 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.560 been more not intimidating, encouraging, might I say, is Ben, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.600 you recently posted it up on your Facebook page. There 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.480 was a screenshot of the trailer that had come off 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.920 of YouTube or someone's fine or whatever, and I think 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.880 underneath it was written to see I caught him out 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:18.240 now he. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:19.119 Was on the back foot. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.800 It was pown embarrassing, it was written. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.680 It was something that was written about it being like 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.120 who else would want to be rescued by Joel Jackson? 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.800 And there was all these fantastic comments, and it was 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.520 like one of them had even written something like yeah 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.800 that and I'd fain I needed I needed mouth to 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.520 mouth or something like yes like the wreck of Hesperus. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.360 So the best thing is I'm being encouraged to do 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.360 more and I'm taking it. I'm taking it his encouragement, 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.599 and I hope I can please the masses with more 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.360 first traps. But I mean, what will be daunting is 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.000 when It's like, my mates watch it and I'm and 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.039 you know, I'm coming over for dinner the next day, 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.000 and they're just like wow. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.360 So like, what is it you? Did? 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.000 You have a body double? My girlfriend's like, that's not you, 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.400 that's a body double. I've never seen that man before. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.159 Where's he Can I talk to him? 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.279 As embarrassed as I am that you've managed to see 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.440 my Facebook post. I did put this question in there 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.560 at the start of this podcast because seeing you come 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.719 out of the water like that is a vision that 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.040 people will have to search because podcast is audio, so 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:23.479 they're listening to this and they'll be like, what the 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.920 hell are they talking about? And then I know once 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.960 they see the photo of you coming out of the water, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.960 they will be compelled to watch this series from start 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:31.400 to finish. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.600 Well, I hope you do. I hope you see that, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.719 and I hope you go, ah, can you put on 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.520 some clothes? And then you realize that I put on 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.400 a lot of clothes in the show, so then they'll stay. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.080 And I actually have a voice and talk and have 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.560 scenes where I discuss things, and it was all of 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.120 those things where I got to do it and Geraldine 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.960 Haykwall was like, how fantastic for you to be ejectified, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.800 and I went, yeah, it's kind of a massive smile. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.400 Was like, it's all a bit of fun. And I 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.520 do hope that regardless whatever floats you, but whatever brings 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.280 you to the show, I hope that makes you stay. Literally, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.800 I pull a sunken boat out of the river, so hey, 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.120 look boat or sunken boat, I can fix you. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.800 Well. Raised in northern Western Australia, you really owe your 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.040 mom forgetting you started and acting. Was there a backup 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:15.320 plan if this all went to shit? 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:16.520 No? 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:21.160 No, she was just a very pushy individual. No, she 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.440 was a mum's done everything under the sun. And I 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.280 think when her son came back from being away in 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.120 Brazil for a year with three very random tattoos and 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.400 no idea of what he wanted to do apart from 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.920 dig holes as a landscaper, she got very scared and 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.400 wanted him to do something more with his life, so 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.560 suggested that I audition for Wapper and either. But I 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.520 didn't really have a backup plan. I've never really had 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.080 a backup plan really for a lot of things. I 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.000 think that's one of the gifts that I inherited from 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.640 my mother and father is that they've both just been 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.200 massive risk takers, and not in the sense of ever 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.800 endangering life or whatever, but just going. You know, I 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.520 have a thought and a dream and a passion. I'll 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.800 just go for Dad wanted to surf for the rest 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.640 of his life and be professional sportsman, and he played 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.800 state basketball and then coached and captained with Luke Longley 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.160 before he went to the Chicago Bulls. My mum absolutely 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.360 has done every job under the sun and continues to 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.800 do so, like you can't keep him down. So there's 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.840 never been a backup plan. But there's also never been 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:23.000 an actual really family discussion around the dinner table, going Joel, 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.400 this is very difficult and financially stressful and a bit 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.679 oad of ordinary, and so in that it just feels 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.400 like I'm doing a nine to five in a very 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.439 odd ball kind of way. So I feel very lucky 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.240 to have a supportive family and people that keep going, Oh, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.280 that was fun. What's the next story you're telling? 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:40.560 So's it's good? 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.360 Well, your dad was and probably still is an indigenous educator. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.440 Has that given you a passion to help get indigenous 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.280 storytelling up on the small and big screen? 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.080 One hundred percent. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.440 I mean, so my father is an Indigenous educator and 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:58.200 works predominantly or has worked predominantly in Nyalamar and Injiabati country, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.320 which is the Pilbro northwestern Australia, so near Caratha and 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:05.160 Dampier in those areas. And you know, the reason why 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.199 he got involved in that is because our heritage is 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.160 nong where from the taunder Up nation down south in 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.600 southwestern Australia. So that awareness of knowing that you're part 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.760 of a song line or part of a history that 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.560 is based in storytelling. It's the oldest surviving culture in 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.520 the world and that only survived through storytelling, through sharing 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:28.600 song lines, through sharing artwork, through sharing songs like It's 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.360 something that I can am continually trying to connect more 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:35.880 with but also learning now that it's more about me 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.680 listening rather than doing talking and engaging with elders and 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.600 engaging with young Indigenous kids or other Indigenous performers and writers, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.400 actors and directors. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:45.560 You know. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.000 Reaching out to Bunya Production and being involved in Mystery 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.640 Road Too was a massive gift to work with Wayne 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:55.440 Blair Orck Thornton and Jada Alberts and Dude the guy 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:56.520 who is Aaron Patterson. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.679 You know that guy. It's it's unbelievable. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.640 So whenever you go home, there's a massive focus on well, 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.520 what are you doing in the community, what are you 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.679 being a part of with your community, and how are 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.320 you empowering other voices And so that that led me 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.439 to do a big performance with the Muddich Mob, which 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.600 is a group of young Indigenous performers and dancers from 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.880 Wesley College and Perth And if you want to see that, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:19.640 that's on YouTube. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:20.920 We did the. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.000 Dead Heart by Midnight Oil at Telethon and it was 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.840 the biggest performance of Indigenous kids and Indigenous performers in 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.640 Telethon's history. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.439 We know, serve your country, You don't. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:38.840 Serve your know yours No speak your time? 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.160 Why man came to everyone? 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.080 To be a part of that stuff is really wonderful. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:53.319 But also to know that you're empowering other future Indigenous 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.120 artists to be leaders and to be passionate about their 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:01.640 stories and identities is awesome. So the more I can, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.880 as a very talkative young man, shut up and listen 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.320 and learn is a gift and I hope that we 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.320 continue all to do that, whether it's Indigenous voices or 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.320 other minorities inside of Australia. I think it's really important 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:16.959 we get those stories seen and heard. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.240 Well, how important is it to you to make shows 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.040 that reflect astray and culture broadly, not just about the 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.359 Indigenous community, but just who we are as Australians. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.520 It's massively important. It's pretty much the main criteria for 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.680 everything I do. Everything I do has to meet that 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.120 idea of are you telling something that speaks to the 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:37.920 Australian psyche? Now, I mean Deadline Gallipoli was created and 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.240 was set to roll out for the hundredth anniversary of Anzak, 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.880 But it was the idea of everyone's heard the story 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.240 of Anzac, so how do you reinterpret it in a 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.679 way that's actually going to address the psyche? And that 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.160 came through the guise of it being about the journalists 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.760 and about speaking to false news or how reporting he's 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.960 filtrated and kind of weaned down and the impact of media. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.000 So that was a really wonderful story. And then telling 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.240 Peter's story and being a part of Peter Allen is 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.000 what I'm referring to. But whenever we get a chance 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.000 to tell something or be involved in a project, that 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.720 we know is going to be seen by potentially and 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.440 hopefully millions and millions of people. It's our job, whether 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.080 you're a leading cast member or a supporting cast is 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.880 to continually ask are we talking to the Australian psyche now? 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.520 And are we seeing Australian voices and faces of now? 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.840 Regardless of it being in the sixties, regardless of where 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.000 it's coming from or what it is. The world is 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.920 more than capable of blind casting. I mean, the queen 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.240 in Bridgington is of Ethin, Like, It's not who we 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.360 would expect to be playing a queen, and nor are 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.840 any of the other roles inside of that realm. And 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.360 it's so wonderful to see people be like, I'll accept 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.960 it because it's beautiful acting and it's a beautiful story. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.160 So the more we can share what's truthful to the 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.480 now is a big part of our job. Something I'm 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:56.360 very passionate about. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:00.360 Were you influenced by fellow Western Australia Heath Ledger growing up? 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.520 Did that make you believe that you could go on 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.040 and have this career that you're having. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.000 Yeah, it did. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.760 And in saying that too, I think what is also 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.640 sometimes hard to fathom in those elements is like the 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.640 idea of them is wonderful, but they're so detached from 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.960 who you actually are or your own journey, and everything 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.960 has changed since then, and so for me, I tend 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.800 not to try to draw inspiration from other actors or entertainers. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.200 I actually take it from the people who I'm working 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.840 with or who I'm telling the stories for, or two 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.440 Like I get so much inspiration from a little kid 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.040 coming up and saying, you know, I really enjoyed that, 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.080 or I saw your song the other day or I 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.480 heard it on the radio, or you know, when you 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.240 go and do a sixty person show in Albany in 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.959 the six degrees at like this tiny pub and you've 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.880 got everybody singing or people clapping to your own songs 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.840 and saying I love that. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.120 Thanks that made my day. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.080 You go, yeah, cool, that's okay, I'm on the right track. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.920 I've got to keep doing that. So I think in 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.400 that way, or when you meet someone from like Chile 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.360 in Early Beach and they go, you're from that show, 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:09.240 and it's yeah, Like, it's not about necessarily being recognized 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:10.319 or lauded. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:11.880 It's just about. 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:16.360 Knowing that your story is impacting people and making a difference. Yeah, connecting, 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.160 And that to me is that's why I was a 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.520 muso when I was fifteen years old, was because I 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.480 loved it. I loved seeing four hundred people in a 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.760 pub get very messy in dance and have a great time. 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.040 And it hasn't changed. I mean, don't get mess in 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.880 your launder and watching Miss Fisher, but have a great time. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.480 That depends on who. 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.320 Cares in your living room. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.360 Yeah, too many, Bailey, I'd be in Melbourne. You might 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.400 be your second lockdown. You might just want to get loose, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.080 but you know who cares. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.760 I'm fascinated with this one question, which is how do 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.320 you loan your lines? You know, what's the best technique 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:46.840 for you? You know, I know you went to neither 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.320 and they can be quite specific or can work with 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.360 people on an individual basis, But how do you loan 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:52.840 your lines? 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.120 Yeah, it's hyper specific to every role. So and it's 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.120 not a form of method acting. It's more a form 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.200 of me cementing it in a different part out of 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:00.680 my sight. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:01.680 So it's like. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:07.400 Engaging our brain functions on electricity And oh wow, anyone 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.440 who's listening, who's like a neuros, like just turn off 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.680 for a brain surgeon because I don't know what I'm 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.360 talking about. But the idea being that myle and our 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.600 passageways only expanded the more we use them, and we 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.320 can connect a different part of our brains, and we 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.680 only really use like a little part of it. So 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.440 for each role, I try to engage a different part 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.040 of it, whether it's physically or creatively, and try to 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.160 lock into something that I haven't done before, which scares 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.160 the hell out of me but also empowers me to 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.960 continue discovery. So, for instance, with Charles Bean, that was 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.280 very He was a very didactic and practical guy, almost 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.240 on the spectrum, and so therefore I was balancing a 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.600 tennis ball on every piece of syntax or punctuation, sorry, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.400 and learning the rhythm of it that way, and learning 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.680 the staccato delivery and almost succinctness of his speech, like 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.680 he didn't mess with work. It was direct, so there 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.440 was no flourishes, there was just delivery. Whereas for Peter 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.200 all and I sang everything and would try to find 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:09.840 what key it was in or if it was a 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.920 ballad or a pop song or a love song, whatever, 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.320 and I would write that down as my little kind 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.880 of theme for the scene. And then that was how 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.360 I played into that, and I remembered it with that 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.000 sing song quality, and it gave me that brevity that 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:23.840 Peter Allen has. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.200 You know, I was always a performer. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.200 So yeah, he was always performing. And then what's more 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.800 with Miss Fisher, which is really fun for me now 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.400 is everything. Seventy percent of what I do is interrogation. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.840 In this series, I asked a lot of questions or 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.760 I'm dumbfounded by Peregrine. You know, was it an ongoing relationship? Oh, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:43.400 of course not. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:44.560 He was a married mat. 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.440 So while we're still sending him love letters. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:47.560 That's not what this is. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.480 So my answer is continuously in the other character. And 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.880 all I have to do is remember what the point 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.000 of the scene is, whether it's ask about the murder 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.880 weapon or ask why did you do the I didn't like? 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.600 Why did you do the thing I said not to do? 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.679 And the really fun thing is to get close to 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:06.600 learning the lines. 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:07.440 And I'll do it. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:11.200 You know, I'll have eight scenes over fourteen hours in 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.880 a day and I won't forget a line, I won't 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.440 drop lines. I don't take my script with me to work, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.639 but I'll have it all within me, but I'll intentionally 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.320 forget whatever's going on and know that as long as 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.920 I keep asking the questions or following the seeds they drop, 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.159 I'll somehow come across that beautiful house in the woods. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:27.399 You know. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.960 Like that's the fun thing, is doing all the homework 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.199 forgetting everything and then walking around like some lost idiot, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.600 like it's in you, you direct me where am I going? 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.879 It scares year co stars and especially people who are 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.280 there for a day or whatever, like what is this 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:41.879 guy doing? 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.360 But in that it's so. 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.640 Much more playful because it can become didactic or too 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:52.280 fast or you know, lacking creativity, so it changes every time. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.320 We talked really briefly before about Mystery Road, which is 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.120 another show for Acorn TV, which I haven't actually seen yet, 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.760 but you know, I watched the two trailers of those 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.760 two seasons and it looks absolutely incredible. How hard is 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.320 it to get these shows seen with so much competition 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:08.320 in the streaming space? 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.920 Oh, look, it's it's really difficult. It's one of those. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.080 Things where people will come back and continually come back 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.159 to shows, either because of the style, the actors, the direction, 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.679