WEBVTT - WE ARE BACK BABY!

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and are welcome back. It's been a long break,

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<v Speaker 1>but here we are to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Laura and I'm Brittany. A lot's happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of weeks. Do you know what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is actually hilarious. Almost every day someone has written to

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<v Speaker 1>us and said, can you please come back? Like the

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<v Speaker 1>break's been too long?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we doing without you? We can't survive without you?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh my gosh, how long have

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<v Speaker 2>we actually been off for? And I worked it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only just five weeks to the day that we

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<v Speaker 2>stopped the last episode, and a lot has happened. You

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<v Speaker 2>have officially got a boyfriend, like out in the media, tell.

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<v Speaker 1>On the world the press. I pushed a watermelon out

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<v Speaker 1>of my vagina.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually it was almost a sizeable watermelon. She is a

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<v Speaker 2>big girl. She's the kid's got a massive head.

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<v Speaker 1>Some destruction we've had We would get into that later

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode. I ran a half marathon. We have

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<v Speaker 1>chosen our bachelor for twenty twenty one, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>started the train wreck that he's married at first sign

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute dumpster fire, which you know what I am

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<v Speaker 1>usually so here for Maths and this year. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>because collectively I've had about four hours sleep in the

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<v Speaker 1>last month, but I'm not vibing it like I normally would.

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you about that. Also, coming right up,

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<v Speaker 2>you are on the slow decline with Maths. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>taken me by surprise too.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when we first started this Okay, so we

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<v Speaker 1>started this podcast almost two years ago. Guys, when we

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<v Speaker 1>first started it, I was so sick for Maths. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like waving that mass flag. I don't know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a bit disenchanted. Maybe it's because I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there's any couples this season that I'm like really getting behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what, I'm almost proud of what I

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<v Speaker 1>have never watched an episode of Maths of any season.

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<v Speaker 1>It just shows how much you've bluffed your fucking way

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<v Speaker 1>through this podcast because you constantly talk about Maths. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because what I will do is I'll watch the highlights,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'll go and watch people like Clementine Ford, who

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<v Speaker 1>will just go to town. I feel like I've watched

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<v Speaker 1>every episode without watching an episode, I'll always read the articles,

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<v Speaker 1>watch the news, I'll look at the contestants pages, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go and look at these people that recap them, people

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<v Speaker 1>like Hijrash that do funny stuff. But I've never sat

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<v Speaker 1>down and watched from start to finish a whole episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Maps. You're literally just here for the Punky recaps.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for punky recaps. Okay, So before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into everything about today's episode, we've missed you. We're so

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<v Speaker 1>happy to be back in your ears, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you all actually came here for. Brittany,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what's it like to be in love? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me what's liked me. You're all glowy, You're

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<v Speaker 1>all giggly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm humming, am always giggly. I am actually blushing now

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<v Speaker 2>talking to Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>How's the sex been? I want to know everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic, from the top to the bottom. Guys, I wholeheartedly, ridiculously, disgustingly,

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<v Speaker 2>sickeningly have fallen in love. And I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>that person that everyone loves to hate. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>have always always loved to hate. And I've said it

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<v Speaker 2>a number of times in this podcast. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say it now. It happened when I least expected it.

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<v Speaker 1>Of fucking hell. Also, though, for anybody who has been

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<v Speaker 1>with this podcast since the very beginning, or if you've

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<v Speaker 1>listened to every single episode, you will know that Britney's

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<v Speaker 1>dating love life has been a constant running theme and

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of people who are messaging to say that

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<v Speaker 1>they're happy for you. I just don't think people have

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<v Speaker 1>actually really thought this through and that they realize that

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<v Speaker 1>it means you're not going to be bringing any more

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<v Speaker 1>dating stories to the podcast, which is a real point

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<v Speaker 1>of contention right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a point of contention, but they've thought it

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<v Speaker 2>through because every congratulatory message I have finishes with I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also disappointed that there will be no more stories, but

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<v Speaker 2>I need to be happy enough for you. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people writing saying that we need a

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<v Speaker 2>new segment that is other people's embarrassing, awkward, pathetic, terrible

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<v Speaker 2>dating stories which we might actually bring in. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I still have some dating stories up my sleeve, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I trust me. There's been a decade of dating. I

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<v Speaker 2>can bring you a lot of stories still, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can also bring.

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<v Speaker 1>You a lot of love. Now. Okay, so let's just

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<v Speaker 1>hit the hot ten questions. I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>I have ten questions, but I'm gonna ask you a few.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you guys meet you guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that I said last year, like the start of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, that this year in twenty twenty, I did

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<v Speaker 2>not want to go through another holiday season and another

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas without someone like I just wanted to finish this

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<v Speaker 2>year and hope that I met someone. And in the

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<v Speaker 2>last episode of last year, I remember saying, well, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Another year over and I didn't meet anyone. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was like literally the next day, it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like I told the universe, like pull your

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<v Speaker 2>butt into gear. The next day I met Jordan. I

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<v Speaker 2>met Jordan on and I'm gonna sound like a wan

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<v Speaker 2>car but I met Jordan on.

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<v Speaker 1>Raya, which anyone who doesn't know. Raya is like an

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive celebrity dating site. Remember how I used it is

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity and you have to be approved to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be on Raya, and you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>over a certain number of followers on Instagram. No you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd also be a certain level of hotness. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>sensing a tinge of jealousy? You're not on rail I

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<v Speaker 1>was off dating sites before I had any kudos in

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<v Speaker 1>any social circle.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys remember used to talk about how I saw

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<v Speaker 2>Chanting Tatum on a dating app and I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to match with him, et cetera. Like I sent him

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<v Speaker 2>a direct message as a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>What wasn't a joke. It's funny. It's only a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get rejected, you're like, yeah, I didn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that anyway. He just never go back.

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<v Speaker 2>He just didn't. I super liked him. That is the

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<v Speaker 2>app that I met Jordan on. And the thing about

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<v Speaker 2>this app is it doesn't really work. It's not geolocated,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can match with anyone around the world at

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<v Speaker 2>any time. You don't set a location, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>I saw all these famous people on them.

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<v Speaker 1>The funny thing about this.

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<v Speaker 2>With Jordan is I saw Jordan on this dating app

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<v Speaker 2>three or four times.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have made him aware of this, and I said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I always swiped.

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<v Speaker 1>Left four times. This is purely because, for.

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<v Speaker 2>No other reason, his dating profile looked great. It was fine,

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<v Speaker 2>he was interesting, he was athletic, but he was younger

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<v Speaker 2>than me, and significantly younger than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie does like a young guy from school. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to go he's clocking off school. Now. It

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<v Speaker 1>got to a point where, like, you know, when you've

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<v Speaker 1>dated everybody, and like when you're on Tinder and it

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<v Speaker 1>stated everybody. I mean, I've been there, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a dig at you, like, oh, you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>on Tinder. You're swiping and it says no one, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one left in your area, and you're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck it, I'll just go up ten years and down

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<v Speaker 1>ten years and kilometers. All of a sudden, you've just

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<v Speaker 1>matched me a thirteen year old in Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I was ready to meet someone. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was and this is my advice that I do give

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<v Speaker 2>you guys as well. I was ready to meet someone.

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<v Speaker 2>So the people I was looking for were people I

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<v Speaker 2>thought would be ready to meet someone. So I had

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<v Speaker 2>an age range. Age range doesn't really come up on

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<v Speaker 2>rail anyway. So I was like, this guy, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you how old he's in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's too young for me. He's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just kept swiping. No, it got to almost

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the year and he just kept popping

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<v Speaker 2>up on my swiping. So I thought, hang on, what

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong with this person? Like why am I saying

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<v Speaker 2>no to him? And I sort of went through my

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<v Speaker 2>checklist in my head of what I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>He ticked every single thing, and then I realized the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason I was saying no was because he was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six and I am thirty three. So you do

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<v Speaker 2>the math, that's seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to laterally stop then, but I also am

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<v Speaker 1>very sleep deprin So I was seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Years and I thought, there's no way a twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>year old and I completely stereotyped a twenty six year

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<v Speaker 2>old professional athlete is not going to be traveling the world,

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<v Speaker 2>playing the field, doing what he wants. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the only reason. I was like, Okay, he's young,

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<v Speaker 2>he is twenty six, that's my only reason. Fuck it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say yes because that's not a good

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<v Speaker 2>enough reason when every other box is tick.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said yes.

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<v Speaker 2>We matched immediately, and then he sat all over to

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<v Speaker 2>me and we started talking and it was just easy.

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<v Speaker 2>From the second we started talking. He asked me for dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was a bit cocky and said, only if

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<v Speaker 2>we can play tennis first. Now, Jordan has a serve

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<v Speaker 2>of two hundred and twenty kilometers an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>This did not go down well for anyone who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know Jordan is actually a professional tennis player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so look, I could go into a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>details and we will over the coming weeks or for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of my life whatever, but we essentially met.

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<v Speaker 1>We had and the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>This is huge for me because you guys know that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any emotions really or I never used

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<v Speaker 2>to have emotions, and I used to.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a runner.

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<v Speaker 2>Like someone would say they liked me, and I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, did you see that he wore a

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<v Speaker 2>summon shirt. I can't date him, and I would run away.

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<v Speaker 1>Like over the past two years, the amount of guys

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<v Speaker 1>who I shouldn't say it there. It's not like Brittany's

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<v Speaker 1>been dating a bazillion men, but like the number of

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<v Speaker 1>guys who she has dated and on paper, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>they seem like they're a really nice guy and the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason why you were trying to pick apart them

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<v Speaker 1>as a person is because they're actually into you and

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<v Speaker 1>they're being nice to you. As much as she has

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<v Speaker 1>sat here and given you relationship advice, I have been

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<v Speaker 1>the one behind the scenes being like britt this guy

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<v Speaker 1>seems awesome, but there is something to be said for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you need to have that X factor

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You can't just match with someone who on

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<v Speaker 1>paper everything seems awesome, but there's no spark. Oh, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's been for you. There's been no spark.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just knew that when the person came along

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<v Speaker 2>in my life that it would be easy. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that I wouldn't question it. I knew that I would

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<v Speaker 2>just feel it. And I always knew it would happen

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<v Speaker 2>fast because I knew that I'm so specific with what

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking for that when it did happen, I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that it would just happen. So we went on

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<v Speaker 2>this one date. We had an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 2>sitting for dinner, and then it was midnight, six and

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<v Speaker 2>a half hours later, and they came up to us

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<v Speaker 2>say this, let us stay because I saw us having

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<v Speaker 2>this such a great time. They came up to us

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, guys, like the restaurant's closing, you do

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<v Speaker 2>need to leave. I don't even know if Jordan got

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<v Speaker 2>a word in edgewise. It was just like six hours

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<v Speaker 2>of me talking. So we left and then he was

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<v Speaker 2>such a gentleman. He was so polite, and I could

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<v Speaker 2>tell he really liked me, like just the way he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking and acting.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was he was like, didn't touch me.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't try and kiss me, didn't do anything. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the taxi was coming and I was like, this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to even try and kiss me. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know if I should end it

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<v Speaker 2>without kiss because it was so good. And I'll also,

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<v Speaker 2>i'm saying that it's not like it was a new take.

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<v Speaker 2>I was had six wines, I was dry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like and I literally said, so the cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in two minutes, and he's like, uh huh. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, are you going to kiss me? Or

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<v Speaker 2>am I going to have to kiss you? That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I said, and he was like, it'd be great if

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<v Speaker 2>you did it. Chivalry also like grow a set.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on. It was like, I'm just He's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually glad you did that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I really wanted to kiss you, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was just trying to be a gentleman and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want you to feel uncomfortable. He's actually so great, He's

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<v Speaker 2>so sweet, it's like unheard of. Then this is someone

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<v Speaker 2>like me I had to go up to Port Macquarie

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<v Speaker 2>the next day. I had four days left until Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>and I banned him from listening to the podcast. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a very important point. I was like, absolutely, you

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<v Speaker 2>will never listen to this podcast until you're head over

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<v Speaker 2>heels in love with me, and then it's too late

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<v Speaker 2>for you to run away.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my rule. He's like, I don't understand. Why

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<v Speaker 1>what do you talk about it. I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to know. Ask my question, and like this

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<v Speaker 1>has been your fear, Like I'm perpetually single because of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. It's a bad omen. It was my fear.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought people would listen and be turned off

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<v Speaker 2>it until you know who I am and what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually like. It'd be easy to listen to what we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about and just be like, oh, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you can't listen to the episode I got

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<v Speaker 2>to put mcquarie. I can't stop thinking about him. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I say to him, look, I've decided you

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<v Speaker 2>can listen to an episode of the podcast. He's like, great,

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<v Speaker 2>which one? And like, so I dated a sociopath?

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<v Speaker 1>That was it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I feel like it's just going to

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<v Speaker 2>explain a lot about me without me having to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that was the episode you got him

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was it, because I just feel like it

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<v Speaker 2>explains a lot about me, because I'm a bit like,

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<v Speaker 2>I get a bit flighty, and I'm a runner. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said that to him. I said, look, historically, I run,

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<v Speaker 2>like I I want you to know that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to know why. And I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>have the awkward conversation and I didn't want the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted him to listen. And he's like, when

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<v Speaker 2>should I listen? And I said, why don't you listen?

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<v Speaker 2>On the way here, He's like to paut and I

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<v Speaker 2>said yes. And then I was like, I threw my

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<v Speaker 2>phone just for two days after Christmas. We had just

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<v Speaker 2>had Christmas. It was in that Chris between Christmas and

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<v Speaker 2>New Year's period. Yeah, that weird time frame work. No

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<v Speaker 2>one knows what day when he didn't have had my family.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't even told my family. I had a separate

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<v Speaker 2>house I was staying at, so he did not have

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<v Speaker 2>I said, and I've seen this guy twice now, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, come to Port he's like, I'll leave in

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<v Speaker 2>an hour. He literally packed his bag, drove to put

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<v Speaker 2>McCrory and we just had these couple of amazing days

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<v Speaker 2>together and that was it. We have not unless he

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<v Speaker 2>was away playing, we have not had one day apart.

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<v Speaker 2>He moved into my house in Bondie within as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as he got back.

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<v Speaker 1>We just moved in. I'm really happy for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is not necessarily like the precedent that you should

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<v Speaker 1>set for all your relationships. It's okay to take things

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<v Speaker 1>slow people, and that's something that we have been advocating

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<v Speaker 1>for for the past two years. And then here's Brittany.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're getting married next week and when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know no. So I will wrap this up because

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it more in other episodes. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say when I say he moved in,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean unofficially, he just stays with me every night.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that is that's not a normal thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I would ever do. As we know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know that he's going overseas very very soon, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll be gone for the rest of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't see him. So we've always known that

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<v Speaker 2>we had like a four month period together and then

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<v Speaker 2>that was it. So in our head, we were like,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't going to be a normal ticket, slow to

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<v Speaker 2>know each other, see each other once a week. This

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<v Speaker 2>is We've got four months to see if this is

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, and then we don't see each other for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was why I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you know what, fuck it, Let's just hang out

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we can, get to know each other

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we can, and then we decide if

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do a long distance thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So if anyone who doesn't understand why Jordan is going

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<v Speaker 1>overseas for the next x amount of time, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>he is going on tour to play tennis. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the States and in Europe and

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be playing all over the place. So

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<v Speaker 1>Britt and Jordan are going to have to do this

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<v Speaker 1>extended time away from each other, which, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be challenges in that of itself, but

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<v Speaker 1>also it means we can do a podcast episode on

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<v Speaker 1>long distance. You guys have been asking for a long

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<v Speaker 1>distance dating podcast, and it's been a long time since

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<v Speaker 1>I've done long distance dating. So we're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>it from the horse's mouth. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, I could talk about this for hours, So

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<v Speaker 2>let's just wrap my little segment up and I'll end

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<v Speaker 2>it with we are doing long distance because I am

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<v Speaker 2>head over heels in love and he's head over heels

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<v Speaker 2>in love. And guess who said the L word first?

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<v Speaker 1>He did? You did? You can't say both us on guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you know how the game works, Laura, you said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote it down in a message to a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>and then later without him knowing, and later that day

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<v Speaker 2>that's another story.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me he loved me first. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>was cute. I was never gonna say it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>so cute that I feel sick. I know you vomitated disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, enough about me, let's talk about other huge

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<v Speaker 2>things going on in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this episode, we are I mean, like part of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode is that we are just kind of going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a good catch up guys, because it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while since we were able to sit here and

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<v Speaker 1>debrief and get back to basics. But before we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what this episode like, the main part of this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to be I guess my birth story,

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<v Speaker 1>which kind of is weird, but I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you all the nitty gritty details

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<v Speaker 1>around Laola being born. I'm entering the world. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's weird at all. I think it's really pervy.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people out there who are really into other

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<v Speaker 1>people's birth stories, and then there's going to be some

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<v Speaker 1>people who are like, I don't want to know about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think it's interesting, especially like people like me

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<v Speaker 2>or people that haven't had children.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know how it feels, we don't know, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know anything, so it's we I personally am really interested.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already quizzed you, but we put it out to

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, and you guys had some really great questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I guess you're right, Like I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>from having two children myself, I have learnt so much

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<v Speaker 1>about what it is to actually give birth and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole process, and I think that until you go through

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<v Speaker 1>it yourself, there is so little that we actually talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to keep anything secret, no sugar

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<v Speaker 1>coating and whatever Brittany asked me, I will answer a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these questions came from you guys directly, so

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<v Speaker 1>you only have yourself to blame for asking such disgusting questions.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll have issues.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get into that, guys, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>new bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>We do. We have a new bachelor and.

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<v Speaker 2>Normal, and he's hot, any smart, and he looks great.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a really cute smile and I have one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred match with him on Tinder before and it actually

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<v Speaker 1>because it's funny, because I have to fuck off. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy who is our new bachelor, his name

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<v Speaker 1>is Jimmy Nicholson. He's thirty one. He's from Sydney. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a normy norm which means that he is not

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<v Speaker 1>from any ex reality TV show. He is a pilot

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<v Speaker 1>and because of COVID, he has a lot of downtime,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why he was able to take on the

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<v Speaker 1>role of being the bachelor. And he's our very first

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor who is not your standard attractive white man. He

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<v Speaker 1>is of Fijian and New Zealander descent, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is an excellent choice for bachelor. Here is someone fresh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is someone new, and it has been a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time since I have online dated. But as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I saw his picture on Pedestrian. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely matched with that guy on Tinder. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we spoke. Oh maybe we did speak, but we

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<v Speaker 1>definitely didn't meet up or anything like that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>hand on heart one hundred percent seen him before and

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be Tinder. And then I googled where

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<v Speaker 1>he was from, and he's from Sydney, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not surprising. I've matched with every single sing man

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<v Speaker 1>in Sydney at some point in time, so gone through

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<v Speaker 1>the list, here we go, and now you have as well. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually him not that long ago, Like I matched

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<v Speaker 1>with him Daily Mail, Eat your heart out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it wasn't Tinda. It was like bumble. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we matched at the end. We matched twice at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of last year. Like obviously, before I met Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>he was really really nice, really great.

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<v Speaker 1>We had really good chat.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to meet up, and then I went to

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<v Speaker 2>put McCrory I went away somewhere and then I just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of just like put it on the back burner.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't meet up.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he recame back into the messages to meet up

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<v Speaker 2>again the second time, and I had just started to

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<v Speaker 2>go on at like one or two dates with someone else,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't want to go and start dating him

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, so I sort of canned it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I never actually met up with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys, he could have not been the bachelot. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I could have met up with him and we would

0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:50.679
<v Speaker 1>have fallen in love and that wouldn't have happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a little bit more information. I don't know if

0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.800
<v Speaker 1>you saw this in the media recently, but it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out he's also dated Bella who was on Lucky Season

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times. I say that this man, who is our

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's number one bachelor, he's churned and burned the online

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<v Speaker 1>dating ladies. He is not afraid of it. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say that there's probably a lot of women in

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney who are going to listen to this podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>go I also matched with him. Send us it, send

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<v Speaker 1>us your details. I want to know. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I want the nitty gritty on this bachelor. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to all come out on that fun cut before it

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<v Speaker 1>comes out in the Daily Mail.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, someone or he has written into us, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know if I wanted to say she hooked up

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<v Speaker 2>with him. She shouted and went to his house and

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<v Speaker 2>they banked. When she left the next day, she realized

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<v Speaker 2>she forgot a bra and she messaged him to get

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<v Speaker 2>it back and he just didn't write back.

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<v Speaker 1>God. Okay, So something else I wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>before we got into birth story nitty gritty details is

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about maths. Just really top line,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go into all of the characters.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go into all the relationship I mean,

0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.000
<v Speaker 1>they almost are they almost are character. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go into all the relationships with all the people

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<v Speaker 1>that have been cast. I think that every year it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be getting more and more controversial, and the

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<v Speaker 1>people who were on the show seemed to be more

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<v Speaker 1>poorly matched in order to create the biggest drama possible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they're not even trying, like they're trying not

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<v Speaker 1>to match them. Oh, they are purposely choosing people who

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<v Speaker 1>have deep seated insecurities and then choosing the exact thing

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that would inflame those insecurities and matching them together and

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<v Speaker 1>watching the absolute dumpster fire. It's breaking people for our entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, guess one of the things that I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen come up. I had this thought the other day

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<v Speaker 1>when I was watching one of the episodes and Sam

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<v Speaker 1>had said something which was absolutely brutal about how he'd

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<v Speaker 1>broken up with his ex girlfriend because he wanted someone

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<v Speaker 1>who had bigger boobs, and he was being very blunt

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<v Speaker 1>about his desires and what he likes in a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things Coco said she had to

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<v Speaker 1>say something that she liked about Sam, and obviously like

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't like any of those things that he said,

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<v Speaker 1>How could you possibly it was so incredibly misogynous, But

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<v Speaker 1>she said, I like that he's really honest, and that

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<v Speaker 1>hit me so hard, and I just wanted to quickly

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<v Speaker 1>sit on that because I know I've done this in

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<v Speaker 1>past relationships, and it really resonated with me. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we do it more as women than men. But when

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<v Speaker 1>men are mean, like actually saying mean things, we often

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<v Speaker 1>try and justify that by saying, oh, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>they're really honest, and we try and kind of like

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 1>redeem that characteristic by saying, oh, but it comes from honesty. No,

0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't come from honesty. That's a really shit person.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a shit thing to say. All it does is

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<v Speaker 1>inflame your insecurity. So if somebody in your life is

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<v Speaker 1>being so honest to you that actually what they're telling

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<v Speaker 1>you is mean, that's not a characteristic that she'ld be rewarded.

0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not a characteristic that you should go. Oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like at least I know where I stand with that person.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be them using that as a way to

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<v Speaker 1>gaslight you. It could be them using that as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to manipulate you. It could be them using that

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to make you feel completely insecure. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can call that for what it is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a copy mechanism, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone just just say someone breaks you and they've just

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<v Speaker 2>told you all these horrible things about you as a human.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to take something from that, We want to

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<v Speaker 2>make something positive. So we walk away and we're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he was honest.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I was really triggered by this because

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<v Speaker 1>in my first long term relationship, who I got with

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in my early twenties twenty and I

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<v Speaker 1>was with until I was twenty six, he was really

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<v Speaker 1>brutally honest, putting honest in quotation marks. And the more

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<v Speaker 1>that I think about it now, that relationship in my

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<v Speaker 1>mid thirties, and I reflect on it. He wasn't honest.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just very mean to me. He would put

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<v Speaker 1>me down. He would tell me that I was too loud,

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<v Speaker 1>I was to this, I was too that I was

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<v Speaker 1>too much for whatever he wanted me to be. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I would try and try and mold my personality,

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<v Speaker 1>shape who I was to better fit this person that

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.440
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be with. And I justified that as

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<v Speaker 1>being like, well, he's being honest. And he said to

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<v Speaker 1>me after six years of us being together that he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see a long term relationship with me and couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see us getting married. And you know, I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before. I took that as a personal challenge.

0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm going to change this guy's mind.

0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 1>We're saying whatever, low on the hole that didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>out people. But I really justified his bluntness as being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if you're doing that in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>be very aware of it, because there's a huge difference

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<v Speaker 1>between honesty in a relationship that allows for growth and

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<v Speaker 1>allows for like open channels of communication and honesty that's

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<v Speaker 1>to the point of just a put down and being mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I look back.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have been in that position too, where I

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<v Speaker 2>have said, oh, you know, okay, he's just been honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll accept that.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I have done that is because it's better

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<v Speaker 2>than the opposite, which is the constant lies. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had been lying to and cheat on that many times

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<v Speaker 2>that the alternative for me was someone being brutally honest.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, I'll take that. I'll take that

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<v Speaker 2>over the secrecy and the hiding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I guess that's the thing, right, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the pinch point, is like, yeah, you shouldn't be accepting

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 1>somebody who cheats on you and lies to you, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're sure a shit shouldn't be accepting someone who's so

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<v Speaker 1>honest that they're fucking mean and hurt your feelings. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a narrative that we need to change as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you haven't seen the Maths episode, then

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<v Speaker 1>you probably don't know exactly what we're referring to. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>go back and watch it. I'm not recommending of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think for everybody who has seen it, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about this season that is very questionable. They

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<v Speaker 1>do it on every season. We know that they purposely

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>choose mismatched couples to create the most amount of drama.

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 1>We know that we know that this whole idea that

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<v Speaker 1>the experts actually choose the couples based on what they

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to bring out the best in each

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<v Speaker 1>other is a load of horseshit.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think the term experts is questionable.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that was something else I wanted to flag on

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>this episode, and that is, as we all know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a new relationship expert in the house on mass

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<v Speaker 1>and that is Alessandra Rampola, and she has actually come

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<v Speaker 1>in and she's replaced to doctor Tricia Statford. I guess

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the thing is is like, as the episodes and seasons

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>have kind of progressed and things have become so much

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<v Speaker 1>more glaringly obvious that the experts aren't there to actually

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<v Speaker 1>match people and create successful relationships. They're there to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of mediate the drama and to kind of suck out

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>people's insecurities to talk about it so that they can

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>hash it out on the couch. Doctor Tricia Stratford walked

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<v Speaker 1>away after seven seasons, and when she first walked away,

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.719
<v Speaker 1>it was very amicable. She said that she wanted to

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>spend her time focusing on other areas of interest. For her,

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that was her neuropsychology because she is actually a doctor.

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>She also wanted to focus on her writing, and you know,

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.200
<v Speaker 1>she's given seven great years to marry at first sight,

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>but she wanted to move on to other things. Since then,

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<v Speaker 1>she's come out and said that the dinner parties on

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<v Speaker 1>Maths have left her feeling sick to the stomach and

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<v Speaker 1>that by the end of her time on Maths, she

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't compromise her professional and personal standards because there were

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 1>participants on the show who she felt shouldn't have been there.

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And then this is also a quote from her, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone gets through the critical selection process when we

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<v Speaker 1>have said that we don't want them on the show

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>because they're too fragile, that they're not going to do

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.360
<v Speaker 1>well on the show, and then they're still on there. Anyway,

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it goes to show what everybody has suspected and what

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>everybody has argued for so long, is that through seven seasons,

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.959
<v Speaker 1>there is only three successful couples that have come out

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.360
<v Speaker 1>of Maths. And I think think to be an expert

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<v Speaker 1>on that show, especially somebody who is a doctor who

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 1>has dedicated their life to studying and has real credentials.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost unconscionable and unethical to sit on a board

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of that show and say, yes, we're doing this because

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>we think it's a great social experiment where we're hoping

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>that these couples will bring up the best in each other,

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>where we're encouraging them to work through their problems. Because

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, if you met a guy in real life

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and they treated you the way that some of these

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 1>men have treated the women within the first or second episode,

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you would get up and walk the f away. First day,

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>first day, you would like or like on the honeymoon,

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you would leave. And we would say to our friends,

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>we would say to anybody that we cared about, if

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a man or woman treated you like that, you would

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>walk out.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine I had gone on a date with a guy

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<v Speaker 2>and on the date he ranked me out of his

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>dates for the last two weeks, and he ranked me

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>as like the fourth best hottest date. And I came

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and told you.

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>That, As if you would say to me, give him a.

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<v Speaker 2>Go, though maybe it could work your way up to

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 2>number one, wouldn't never happen. As if I would even

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>finish the meal, I'd probably like take both of his

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 2>in a doggy bag and runt.

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 1>You guys know that I'm still kind of sick for it.

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not hating on it completely. You're still gonna watch it.

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna watch it. It's hugely entertaining, and I think

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that the reason why I'm going to continue to watch it,

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 1>and one of the reasons why I do enjoy the

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 1>show is not because I expect that any couples are

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 1>going to come out of it successful, and it's not

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>that I expect that anyone's mental health is going to

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>come out of it better than when they went in.

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>It's because I do think that the show creates some

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>really interesting conversations around relationships. I think it really puts

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a spotlight on bad behavior, and like, there's so many

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>things that we have spoken about off the back of

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 1>that show, things like gas larding, things like narcissistic personality disorder,

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>things like you know, this whole idea of being honest

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>and how that's used as a cloak of forgiveness for

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>someone's bad behavior.

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 2>We do want to make a point too, We've seen

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>it's not just the males. We've seen the females gaslining

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>the men as well, like.

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.919
<v Speaker 1>It's this is sick both ways. Now it's time for

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the part your favorite part of every episode, which is

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>accident filtered. That was my favorite part. That was so

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>overly enthusiastic. It's fine, I'm here for it. I'm gonna

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>go first. Okay, So a few years ago, I went

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>on this two week cruise with some friends. It was amazing.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>We were having the best time, and then this one

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>night I started getting on with this really cute guy.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>We took it back to my room. I've missed this,

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>That's what I've missed this.

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>We took it back to my room, and it started

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to get pretty hot and heavy, if you know what

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I think they were having sex.

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 2>At one point, I really needed to pee, so I

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 2>got up and I went to the bathroom just to

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 2>do a quick little WHI.

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>When I came back, we continued to get it on,

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>but I noticed that the fitted sheet on the bed

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>was missing.

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I was so confused, and I just casually asked, Oh,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 2>where did the sheet go? He responded, Oh, I don't know.

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really think much of it, as I thought

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 2>we had just kicked it off. During the sex. He

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>ended up leaving the room by the end of the night.

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 2>When we all woke up in the morning, one of

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>my friends started cleaning up around the room. He noticed

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.639
<v Speaker 2>something shoved underneath the table. He pulled it out and

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>legitimately shouted, what the actual, Oh my god, did you

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>shit yourself? I turned around and he was holding up

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>the fitted sheet from the bed and there was legitimately

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 2>a huge shit on it.

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I burst out laughing.

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I was so confused as to what happened until I

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 2>remember this guy obviously did a shit in the sheet.

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>When I went to do my two minute WII. I

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 2>explained to my friends what had happened, but they do

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>not believe me, and they still to this day think

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I shipped the bed.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I am so confused by this. What guy is taking

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a dump in bed in the time it took her

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>to go and do a two minute WHII? That's actually

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what poose take a while. There's a lot

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>of energy and effort that has to go im yourself comfortable.

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>So she's fucked.

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>She's gone to do it. She's like, excuse me, I'm

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>doing a WII. He's what cross his mind to be

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>like this? Is the perfect time to do my shit.

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I will take the sheet off, shit to the sheet,

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>wrap it up and hide it under the table and

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 2>think that she won't. But also I think, what he's funny,

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 2>is this my picture? She comes back from the bathroom.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>There's only two of them in the room. She's been

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>gone for two minutes. She's like, where's the sheet.

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>He's like, well, I don't know, Like what could have

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>happened to the sheet that you don't know? Not two minutes? Okay,

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>they must have been drinking. Firstly, because that's why you're like, oh,

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe the sheet wasn't there. Maybe maybe we pulled it off.

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But secondly, my question is was it

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>a solid log, Like what was the consistency because maybe

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>he had just done a fart and it accidentally came through.

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>No, she said there were marks down there, like puh

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 2>marks if he's wipe his butt with it as well,

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>he's done a pooh, he's wiped the.

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Butt because because this is the other gross thing. She

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>came back and they said they continued to get it on,

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>so he shut wiped the butt, hit it and then

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>continued to get it on with it. He has done

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>this to absolutely f with her, like that's the only

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>reason he has done it to be like like this

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>is like his sick fetish and he does this and

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>then disappears. He'd only do it on a one night

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>stand when he's never gonna see the person again. So bro,

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>you're on a cruise. Shit, you're gonna see them the

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<v Speaker 1>next day.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow, unless he got like the alcohol poos, you know

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>how sometimes you just really need to go. What if

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 2>it hit him in that moment. I'm giving the guy a.

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Benefit of doubt.

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 2>What if it hit him in that moment when she

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>was on the whilet and he just had nothing to do?

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Like what that's what I if if that happened to me.

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>The sheet's the perfect thing.

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>If that happened to me, I'd take it dump in

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the So like.

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 2>If you had to if you're a room and you

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>had to do it done really quickly, like I'm talking

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>you had seconds, what would you grab to do it?

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>In a pillow case? Would be better than the sheets?

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Good call? Like tie it up? Well that one time

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I took a dumb through my pillow and hurl it

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>out the window into the ocean. Why did you live

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>in the room? Put it in the ocean. Also that

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Want to litter guys, but like, that's what I would

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<v Speaker 2>do if I was in that awkward situation.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, my other question is she must have been drunk,

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>because could you imagine how smelly that sheet would have

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>been folded up and put under the bed. Like if

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you were deeming turd in the corner of your cabins,

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>those aren't big cabins, well, you'd be getting it on

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and you'd be like, what is this ambient waft of

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>turd that keeps coming through here? That's obviously why he

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>did a runner too. Wow. I love that. I love

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the story.

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>It's funny, but also I love the fact that, like

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>there's no escape, she's going to seem somewhere on the

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>cruise the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate sometimes we get these stories that come in

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, they're just vastly unbelievable, but I'm also

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 1>here for it, and I remember some of the fed

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>up ship that's happened in my life, and then I'm like, oh, well,

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe that did happen to that person, and it makes

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>me feel a little bit better about myself. Do you

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>have one? I do have one, And the reason why

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>this is so funny. Actually, maybe i'll read out the

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>story to you and then I'll tell you why I

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>think this is so funny. All right, here it is.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I started dating this guy and one day he asked

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>me over. At the time, he was flatting with his

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>older sister and she had gone out with her partner

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>for the afternoon. I hadn't met it yet, and the

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>plan was that we were going to have a barbecue

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>together in the evening. Things got a little bit steamy

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>as no one was home yet, and we made a

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>dash to the bedroom to get down and dirty. So

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>he puts on a condom, grabs a bottle of lube

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to get the situation a little bit slippery, and off

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>we went. About five seconds in, I knew that something

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 1>wasn't right. I know what this is. All of a sudden,

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>my lady bits were on fire. I gasped, and I

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>pushed him off me. I was panicking and could hardly

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>speak because the pain was so bad. What the hell

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>did you fucking use? He innocently held up a bottle

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of shampoo. I didn't have any loubs, so I thought

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>this would be okay, hardly knowing the layout of the house.

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I flew out of the bedroom completely naked. The pain

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>was so bad I jumped in the freezing cold shower,

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>threw my legs up in the air, and positioned myself

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.479
<v Speaker 1>under the stream of water, trying to stop the burning.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>After thirty minutes, I tried to get out, but the

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>pain started again. He finally came in to check on

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>me and asks, H, So, my sister's home and she's

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>getting kind of angry because you're using all the shower water.

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I have ever met the sister yet. Once I softly

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>rinsed myself off and contained the fire between my legs,

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I sheepishly made my way out like a drowned rat.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>The barbecue was on, and by the looks on everyone's faces,

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>my situation had been made in use. I took it

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>on the chin and we've been together for six more years. Okay,

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>have you ever been in a situation where someone's used

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>something other than lubricant?

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think this. I absolutely have not,

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 2>But my sister has I fucking out her on the podcast.

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, everyone knows, Sherry, what have they used?

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>We are going to get a Sherry on to do

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 2>an episode.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>She can tell her own story. Then Sherry's like, so

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>it turns out peanut butter is not a very good lubricant,

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>especially when you have analogy, but it is good for

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>car bloating. Okay. No. So I started reading this accidentally

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>unfiltered out to Matt and I was like, is this funny?

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And I was having good chuckle to it. I got

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to the point where I was like, my lady bits

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>are on fire. And Matt goes, oh, did he use shampoo? Oh?

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>So this is a thing, And I was like, I

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>am sorry, how did you know that? How did you

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>know that the answer to this accidentally unfiltered with shampoo?

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, oh, I've done it before. He's like,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that was me to a girl in the shower. So

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that it's mad my partner has had

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>sex with another woman. I mean, firstly, that's one thing

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got to overcome. And then we know that with

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>another woman in a shower and he's dumped half a

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>bottle of shampoo up a vagina and apparently it's not

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the thing to use for lup. Why do men think

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that this is okay?

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>How do they think that that is not going to

0:33:58.000 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>be a problem for the woman's vagina.

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I would prefer a man used conditioner than you shampoo.

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should be.

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Putting anything anything at all, not even like the only

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 2>thing I would probably use coconut. That's what's gonna say.

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.400
<v Speaker 2>That's actually the funny thing with my sister's story, but

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna know.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you so bad. Al Right, guys,

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that's another episode. I think we've told enough

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>for what I do want to say, though, enough.

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 2>If you guys are listening to this and you know

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 2>that your partner or someone has used something that they

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>really shouldn't use for lube, we want to know about.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>It because I want to read it out next week.

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to know the weirdest, most wonderful things you

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 2>guys have tried to use.

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 1>To get it on. I'm here for it.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, guys, we have done a lot of talking. We

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>have covered a lot this morning.

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>But there is one thing that I've been dying to

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>chat about, and I know you have all been dying

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.919
<v Speaker 1>to chat about, and that is the fact that we've

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>been on break for five weeks and we had a

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>good reason.

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>That is because Superwoman over here had a baby. She

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.240
<v Speaker 2>pushed a baby out of a vagina, a very.

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Big baby with a very big head, but a very

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>very cute baby. I've also already lactated all down the

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.919
<v Speaker 1>front of myself whilst we've been recording this episode. Okay,

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to say a full on wet patch

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>on one side of my shirt.

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to say anything, but I was looking

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>at you before and I could see the patch because

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I knew that Lola was almost due for feed and

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, do you know what, I'm not going

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>to rub this in a face. I'm not going to

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>embarrass I'm not embarrass you.

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to bring it up. I'm just gonna

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>let it talk.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 2>She's in the middle of a spiel about married at

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>first sight, but the patch was growing in front of

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:23.760
<v Speaker 2>my eyes, and I thought it was really cute.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I've never ever embarrassed. But it's really funny that your

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>tits actually say to you, like your boobs, go feed

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>your child, feed your child. Okay, you get a tingling

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>sensation in your nipples and then all of a sudden,

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:35.240
<v Speaker 1>you're just lactating down the front of yourself.

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>But we do have a very very cute new member

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>that is part of the Life Uncut family, and that

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>is little Lola Ellis. So congratulations, Laura.

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm in. It was so weird because

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>we've spoken to each other so many times, I know,

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>but like, I feel like it's weird.

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm about to interview, like you're not

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the podcast host.

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>But so much for having me here. He's coming on

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Life on Card. As you guys probably already know as well,

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Britt kept on referring to the fact that if I

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>ended up having a girl, because Matt and I were

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>so convinced that it was a boy, if we had

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a girl, the name was after Britney. And I'm sure

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you now have all put two and two together that

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Britt thinks that I have named Lola because Britt likes

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to use the term lol. It kills me on Lola Derby,

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>That's what it was, many many different different variations of lol.

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, No, I didn't name my child that. It

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>was almost the reason why I changed my child's name.

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>But the fir forever, I always thought that if I hadn't,

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I always thought if I had another girl, I would

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 1>name her Lola, and I wasn't going to let Britney

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Hockley ruin it for me anyway.

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 2>You named your child after me, whatever. You had a

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 2>complicated pregnancy, I don't want to say complicated, but you

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 2>were really unwell for a long time. You were far

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 2>more unwell with Lola than you were with Mali, especially

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>towards the end. And there were a few episodes at

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 2>the end where Laura, you know, that she couldn't make

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>it onto the podcast, and we had Matt feel in

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 2>for her. We did reiterate at the time that if

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that ever happens, there is a solid reason. And Laura

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>was in and out of hospital at the end, which

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 2>we didn't really want to go into. Laura didn't really

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>want to go into at the time because there were

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 2>bigger things for her to worry about, which was obviously

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 2>the health of her child. Laura, you can jump into that.

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Things went downhill pretty rapidly at the end there.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Well. I guess one of the things that I experienced

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>in this pregnancy, which I didn't experience in Maley's pregnancy

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like Marley's, was it was easy, Like honestly, I felt

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like this pregnant unicorn and I almost kind of hated

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>talking about my pregnancy with Marley at the time because

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I couldn't relate to other people who

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 1>had had really challenging pregnancies. And then I felt like

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I was that asshole who was like, being pregnant is wonderful.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>And then spoiler, this time not quite the case. I

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>was in and out of hospital only because I was

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>having to go into hospital for pain. It wasn't like

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I was kept in hospital. I couldn't manage the pain

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>that I was having with Lola. And basically, I'm sure

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>some of you will remember, we didn't ask guncut episode,

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and I genuinely thought I had gone into labor a

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>few days earlier and Matt had filled in for me.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>But what was happening is that that feeling of thinking

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I was going into labor I had started to happen

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>more frequently and it had gotten way more intense. So

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a thing that some people experience, or most pregnant

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:12.720
<v Speaker 1>women experience, which is called Braxton Hicks.

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 2>And it's like the old phantom labor, isn't it.

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm getting you ready, and like it can be painful,

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.240
<v Speaker 1>but it shouldn't be so painful that you cannot speak

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>or move, and you're on the floor on your hands

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and knees in agony, screaming. So I was having these

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>contractions which were happening like really rhythmically every sort of

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>eight minutes or so, then down to five minutes and

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>down to four minutes, and the pain was so severe

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't walk or talk or do anything. And

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 1>by the end of it, I was in hospital and

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I had been given more phaine to try and deal

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>with the pain, but I wasn't in labor. They didn't

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>know why I was having this pain. They couldn't explain

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to me what was going on. But the problem is,

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.879
<v Speaker 1>so it never ever eventuated into actually becoming labor. And

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>what the only thing that they could kind of tell

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>me that I had is And it's kind of a

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>blame a term for when they don't really know what's

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>wrong with you. And it's called irritable uterus. And so

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone ever wants an irritable or anything.

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>You don't want an irritable bell, you don't want to

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>be irritated. You don't want to irritable uterus basic, or

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 1>an irutable boyfriend. I always had an irritable boyfriend. I

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>originally was with the public hospital, and I was going

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>through public at Royal Women's and I ended up transferring

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to be with a private obstetrician who was amazing, And

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I just had this wild anxiety this time that something

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>was going to be wrong with the baby. And I

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't experience that with Marley. I always felt really confident

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>and really fine during my pregnancy with Marley, but this

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>time I was convinced that there was going to be

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>something wrong with Lola because of everything that had been happening.

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 1>So what happened was is I went in and had

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>some tests done whilst I was having this pain. I

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>went and had some ultrasounds, and they went and did

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>some measurements. They checked the baby's heart rate and everything,

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and some of the measurements came back abnormal. But they

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>sent me home at the time because they didn't have

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the right obstrition in there and everything else was like

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>see normal, And my paint had started to go away,

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.320
<v Speaker 1>so they were like, look, go home, monitor it and

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll give you a call in a few days. So

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 1>a few days later, I got a phone call from

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>my midwife, and my midwife had said we need you

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to come back in and have another test done because

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>there was some levels for the baby that were abnormal.

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>This at this time, I was about thirty six weeks pregnant,

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, okay, what are those levels and

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>what's abnormal? And what's abnormal? Yeah, and they were like, look,

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>there's some fluid on the baby's brain and we need

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to test because it could be a sign that your

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>baby has feedal anemia. And this is all over the

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>phone call, and I was like, okay, what does feedle

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 1>anemia mean? So if the baby has feedle anemia, then

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>what could that indicate? And then the midwife said, you know,

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>if the baby does have fetal anemia, we then need

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to rule out another thing, which is called hydrops. And

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, like when someone tells you a word on

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the phone, you're like, I'm going to google what that is. Right,

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>So this has happened on the Monday, and she said

0:40:58.320 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you need to come back in on the Friday for

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>this test to be done. And I was like, okay,

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>well they need to rule out this thing high drops.

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.399
<v Speaker 1>What the hell's hydrops? So I obviously looked up high

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 1>drops on my computer.

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Of course, which is the worst thing, Like, it's actually

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 2>what that nurse did was not right. She should never

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 2>have dropped that on you and then said see you

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>in five days.

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 1>See you in five days. So high drops is actually

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>called hydrops fatalis. It's a fatal illness that some babies

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>have and basically, once they're born, they have no more

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>than I think it's a ten percent survival rate, and

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 1>it's because of this fluid that forms in their body

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and on their brains. I just went into absolute panic mode.

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And it was because I had been given this term

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know what to do with it, and

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I was told that I had to wait five days

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.399
<v Speaker 1>to have it ruled out. That this was a possibility.

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Of course, when you.

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Google anything and anything medical, you're going to read every

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>single thing about it, and you're going to read all

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the horror stories and you're going to think worst case scenario.

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's absolutely what you did, absolutely and I are

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>called Matt. I called Matt straight away and I was like,

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I've just had this chat with the midwife and you know,

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the levels of what was tested are not normal, and

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>then they want to do more tests to rule out

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 1>this thing that they've told me about on the phone

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that is completely fatal. At thirty six weeks, I was

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>hysterical and Paul Matt was also hysterical. And it was

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>at that point that we made the decision that we

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>were going to go through a private obstetrician because we

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted to have one point of contact from then on

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and we wanted to be able to get the test

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>done sooner, just because I couldn't. I couldn't wait in

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>this limbo of five days not knowing if anything was

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be okay. It was the worst five days

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I have ever had, and to stress and

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>anxiety being told that this could be what your baby has,

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.879
<v Speaker 1>which is non viable and non viable pregnancy, and then

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>no support from that after it gob smacks me and

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Look, everything is absolutely fine. Lalla is

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>so healthy and she's beautiful. And once I did go

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>with the private obstetrition and we had a secondary lot

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of tests done, it turned out that, you know, that

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 1>all the levels had gone back down to normal, so

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.280
<v Speaker 1>something had gone wrong when I was having this pain.

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It was obviously affecting the baby, and the baby was

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in distry because that's why all these levels were elevated,

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and then when the pain had gone away, the levels

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 1>went back down to normal. So it was something that

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>was managed, and then I had a really really great

0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 1>experience with my obstetrician for the next sort of two

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and a half weeks, I guess before I actually had Lola,

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>But there was a lot of questions that came in

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>when I put it up on my social media, like

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, what do you guys want to know? A

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of people asked why was I induced? And that

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>was the reason why I was induced, because they got

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 1>to the point where they were like, Okay, we don't

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>really know what's going on. We don't really know why

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>there is a problem here, but we do know that

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you're at a point now where the baby is better

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 1>off out than in, and we can manage any problems

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>if those problems arise. And she was born and she

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.720
<v Speaker 1>was three point six kilos and she was absolutely perfect.

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 1>So it's just like I literally had a goosebumps, I know,

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>especially like seeing your friend go through something like that,

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>like watching you go through that.

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 2>I felt like when you had your miscarriage. We had

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 2>a really great conversation about that. Guys, If you haven't

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>listened to that episode about Laura going through a miscarriage,

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and then as a friend, what you can do to

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 2>be there watching anyone that you love go through a

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.399
<v Speaker 2>situation like that and there's nothing you can do. There's

0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>absolutely heartbreaking. So when I remember when you were like,

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to drop all this money for the

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 2>next two weeks, you only had like a few weeks left,

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 2>You're like, I don't even care. I just want to

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:18.280
<v Speaker 2>get the best person to relieve your stress and anxiety.

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 2>And when you were like, the baby's healthy and fine

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and everything's gona be fine. I just can't imagine the

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 2>relief you had.

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>But also I think maybe that not even maybe it

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>absolutely played into it hugely. I think once you've experienced miscarriage,

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it's really difficult to have a pregnancy where you don't

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>have any anxiety around the baby's health or around what's

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. So I think the whole time I

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>was pregnant with Lola, I found it really difficult to

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 1>connect with the fact that I was pregnant. I found

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 1>it really difficult to enjoy the pregnancy, and I at

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>no point did I ever feel like, yes, I'm absolutely

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 1>going to have this baby. I know that sounds crazy,

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>but for the whole thirty eight weeks, I still had

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 1>it in the back of my head that maybe this

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy was temporary and maybe it was not going to happen.

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>So when I thought I was receiving that bad news,

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, of course, like this is what my

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>biggest fear has been realized, and this is what I

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.720
<v Speaker 1>have thought this whole pregnancy is. Even now at this point,

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 1>with Lola being four weeks old, I still haven't completely

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 1>overcome that fear and anxiety. Like I still sometimes look

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>at her and she does very normal newborn things, and

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I think, is that normal? Is there something wrong with her?

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm really struggling to overcome those thoughts.

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 2>At the moment, I think that's really normal though literally

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 2>obviously not coming from experience. But I remember my dad

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>saying to me when I Sherry and I like his

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>two baby girls. When Sherry and I went on this

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 2>route on the world trip, we were like in the

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 2>most dangerous countries in South America. I remember him just

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 2>saying to me, let me know when you get home,

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 2>even at like let me know when you get to

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 2>the next country or whatever. And I remember being like, Dad,

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>your helicopter parenting at you know, we're twenty six, twenty seven,

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years old. And he was like, pretty, I

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.959
<v Speaker 2>don't think you understand as a parent, it never ends.

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I will never get a proper night sleep. Ever,

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 2>while you're Galivationian on the other side of the world,

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 2>He's like, the stress and the worry from the day

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.359
<v Speaker 2>you're born until the day they die, it's always going

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.720
<v Speaker 2>to be there. It's just something else just presents itself

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 2>in a different way. Like when they're young and their newborns,

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.399
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, is something wrong that they can't tell

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:20.959
<v Speaker 2>me about? And then when it's old her is someone

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>going to hurt them?

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Are they going to.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Fall her at school? They've been bullied, something going to

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 2>happen to me in another country? Like I think that

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 2>what you're feeling now, it will never go away, It'll

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 2>just evolve.

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's that beautiful quote, isn't there that having children

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.240
<v Speaker 1>is literally having your heart walking around on the outside

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 1>of your body, which it is. And I still sometimes like,

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>look at the person I am now, averse the person

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:42.959
<v Speaker 1>I was three or four years ago. And I think

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:45.800
<v Speaker 1>there was a time in my life where I didn't

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 1>want to have kids. Before I met Matt and before

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>like doing the show and everything, I thought, you know what,

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe kids aren't for me, Maybe I won't have children.

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>And I kind of hate that I was that stereotype.

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I kind of hate that. Then I met someone and

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 1>changed my mind. But I have so fund of until

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you changed as a person since becoming a mom, Like

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm far more patient, I'm far more accepting, I'm far

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.320
<v Speaker 1>more calm in a lot of areas of my life.

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And then I have such wild anxiety in other areas

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of my life that I never ever ever would have

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>thought I would be high strung about your pregnancies. For me,

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been. I have been on a roller coaster. Oh god, Brittany,

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>it must have been hard for me in terms of

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>having kids. I mean, like I was the same as you.

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, maybe kids aren't for me.

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:26.959
<v Speaker 1>That's because I've been single so long.

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I was always doing different businesses and different ideas and traveling.

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I was like, maybe that's not going to be my life.

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel that craving than when you. I became

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:36.240
<v Speaker 2>close with you and you had your pregnancy with Maley.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 2>The pregnancy was so beautiful, and it was and Miley

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:40.919
<v Speaker 2>so beautiful and perfect. I was like, oh my God,

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 2>like maybe I want kids. And then your pregnancy with

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Lola has been such the antithesis of your pregnancy with

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:48.959
<v Speaker 2>Maley that when you went through the pregnancy with Lola,

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, it's the best contraception. I was like,

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I am not having sex ever again, because you are

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 2>on all fours. Every day, you were vomiting, every day,

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 2>you were sick, you're in hospital. I was like, that's

0:47:58.400 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>my contraception.

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Gave me a whole new sense of appreciation for

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>people who struggle with their pregnancies or for people who

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 1>have challenging pregnancies. I was still vomiting up until the

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:10.919
<v Speaker 1>day that Lola was due. And you know the thing

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.720
<v Speaker 1>that I think people don't talk about is I felt

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit of resentment. And I hate saying this because

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want this to get picked up in media

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and get misconstrued, Like I really want to be conscious

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 1>about how I say this. But I never doubted for

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>one second that I would feel bonded to Mali because

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I loved my pregnancy with her, and I knew the

0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:32.720
<v Speaker 1>second she came out, I would love her. But with Lola,

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the pregnancy was so hard that I felt a little

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:37.840
<v Speaker 1>bit resentful, and I even remember saying to one of

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriends, I'm worried that when Lola is born, I

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>will feel resentful for how sick I have felt and

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 1>for how hard this has been. And you know, that

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>feeling definitely absolved the moment that she was born. But

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.839
<v Speaker 1>she's a more challenging baby than Mally was. Like she

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.799
<v Speaker 1>is awake all the time, she cries all the time.

0:48:56.880 --> 0:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>She's a very, very different type of baby, and the

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>experience has been a lot harder. But I do think

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the good thing about having a second child is that

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the first time with Marley, I do think the good

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>thing is that she's the second child, and the first

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 1>time with Marley. I mean, when you very first become

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a parent, you kind of have this fear of like,

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to sleep again, I'm never gonna get

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 1>my body back, I'm never going to get my life back.

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, they're two years old,

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Like time just goes so quickly, and so this time around,

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 1>even though it has been more challenging with her in

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the world, physically, like she just is a more demanding

0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 1>baby than Mally was. I have a really great perspective

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that this time period is so short

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to go so quickly, and so I

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 1>don't feel like I'm getting as hung up on the

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>lack of sleep, on the tire tiring nature of it,

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 1>of like how draining it all is, because I'm like, hey,

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.720
<v Speaker 1>this is just a phase, will be there. You definitely

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 1>lulled into a false sense of security with Marley, like

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.760
<v Speaker 1>she tricked you big time. If you had Lola first,

0:49:57.840 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you probably wouldn't have had another care. I'd be like, mat,

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>go get your tubes died, your tube side you sleep.

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>This is how sleep to pride you are literally. But

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>let's talk. I guess see your birth story.

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It obviously didn't go to plan as such because you

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 2>did were induced and had to have the baby earlier.

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 2>So I guess talk is through the story how it

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 2>happened and how it differed from how you imagined it

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 2>might happen.

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>So I really really wanted to not be induced this

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>time because I was induced with Marley, and I really

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>wanted to have the experience of a natural birth, whatever

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>that is. And it didn't happen. I was actually induced

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 1>on the Tuesday, which was the tuesday that our last

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 1>episode came out.

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we will talk about this too. This woman

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 2>is ridiculous, but we'll get to that.

0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I was induced. I mean, I've done childbirth. I know

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it's painful, and I'd also had these series of like

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 1>weird contraction, painful things happening that I was adamant. I

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't really want to feel any pain this time around.

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>So I got in there to the hospital. I sat

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>down on the bed. I wasn't even in labor. I

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even strapped up to the oxytocin, which is how

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 1>they induced you. I hadn't even had my waters broken yet,

0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:58.759
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, can I just get the epidural.

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>She's in the car, she finds a head, She's like,

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>can you get that ready? And then yeah, and the

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>obstitution was like, actually, we like you to be an

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>established labor. We like you to be having rhythmic contractions

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>before we give you an epi durol And I was like, no,

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna work for me. Don't want to feel it.

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Is labor a prerequisite for the epidural.

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Just sticking him. I've got an email I need to

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>send out and I've got a bit of work to

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 1>still do. Can I please get that epidurol now? Thanks? Yeah.

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I was completely completely different with this pregnancy because like

0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the first time, I felt like I needed to experience

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the pain. They felt like I needed to justify the

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:34.959
<v Speaker 1>epidural to myself.

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Which is crazy, isn't it. It's like the fact that

0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 2>people I have heard women say before too, They're like,

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm cheating. I feel like I didn't

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 2>even like I feel like I'm cheating myself in the

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 2>world by not going through a painful labor.

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think. Sometimes the world has other plans.

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:55.320
<v Speaker 1>We yeah, and that is drugs. It's so funny. So

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Laura's like, I'm like, tell me when you own into labor,

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 1>and we did. She literally was.

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Going to labor on the last episode. So guys, like,

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 2>this woman did not have a break. We did not

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:06.240
<v Speaker 2>have a break. We worked up until the last hour,

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 2>which was a whole nother story. But she's like, I'm like,

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 2>tell me when you're going too labor. She messaged me.

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 2>She's like, cool, it's happening. Wearing labor I'm like amazing.

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you go have your baby, like, I'm

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 2>so excited. We're a small business. Business doesn't stop. So

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you go have your baby. I'm going to

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 2>look after things. And I could see these business emails

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 2>coming in that are like joined, They're addressed to Laura

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:29.360
<v Speaker 2>and Brittany so that they're never ever missed. So I'm like,

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 2>go have your baby. I'm going to look after business.

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 2>WHOA see you in like a week or two. I'm

0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 2>in the email trying to reply to these business emails

0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>and Laura's emails are popping up from Laura to the

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:41.839
<v Speaker 2>to our bosses, and I'm like, what are you doing?

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>What are you like? I was like, hang on, I'm

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>like just wait a minute.

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I messages Laura back and I'm like, babe, like, you're

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 2>having an actual baby right now. I've got this covered.

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Leave it with me. I'm all good, and she's like.

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Nah, I'm in between contractions. I'm good. I'm like, you

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 1>are literally you are literally contracting and pushing a baby.

0:52:58.160 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 2>She's like, nah, nah, I can't feel much right now,

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>so I just get some stuff done.

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Guys. I want to tell you epidurals are the shit.

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>You can do anything after you have an epidural. So

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I had finally gotten the epidural after much persuasion, and

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 1>then I was like a bit bored, thought I'd get

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:16.280
<v Speaker 1>back on the emails.

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 2>It was ridiculous and I was always like, I was like,

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:20.399
<v Speaker 2>you need to I just don't know how to block

0:53:20.440 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 2>you from email. I can't do anything about it. You're ridiculous.

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:24.640
<v Speaker 2>But let's get into some questions.

0:53:24.680 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, but you think that's ridiculous. Whilst I was

0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 1>having contractions, Matt was making TikTok videos, which I think

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 1>is way worse. That does not surprise me in the

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 1>slightest No, it doesn't. See it would have been like

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:37.400
<v Speaker 1>content moment. Look, I mean I was in labor, like so,

0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:41.080
<v Speaker 1>once my waters were broken and I was given epidural

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was, you know, having contractions consistently. I was

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>in labor for ten hours. But when it came to

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>actually pushing, after I was ten centimeters dilated, I only

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>had to push for seventeen minutes before so she was out,

0:53:55.800 --> 0:54:00.359
<v Speaker 1>which was like maybe six different pushes. Yeah, you can't

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:05.359
<v Speaker 1>give up that ten hours of work, ten hours of

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>some cushy labor to push for seventeen minutes. It was

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>that the labor and the birth was absolute chalk and

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.800
<v Speaker 1>cheese to Malie. Because Marley's birth, her pregnancy was easy,

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 1>her as a baby was easy. Her birth, I would

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:21.800
<v Speaker 1>say her birth was very traumatic, whereas Lola's birth was

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:26.480
<v Speaker 1>an absolute, just angelic moment. It was so easy. But

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:27.840
<v Speaker 1>do you know what, then, this is something that we

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.800
<v Speaker 1>don't talk about enough as women. One in three women

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:36.320
<v Speaker 1>would describe their birth experience as traumatic. And obviously trauma

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 1>is defined very differently from different people. You know, it's

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a very personal experience and so the definition of trauma

0:54:44.160 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 1>is subjective. But I definitely don't think that And this

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>is not to scare anyone. This is not to try

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and like strike the fear of God in you if

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you are pregnant. But I don't think we talk about

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what labor and birth is really like enough. And I

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:00.800
<v Speaker 1>think that a lot of people go into birth thinking

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be what it is, or the

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>experience is very different to what they're prepared for, because

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I think the actual mechanics around how it's going to feel,

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:13.600
<v Speaker 1>what your body experiences, what you can breathe away, and

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 1>what you actually can't breathe away because you know, there

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is only so much of the pain that you can

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:21.400
<v Speaker 1>physically woosor breathe and breathe out that you're you know

0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that you can kind of get on top of. And

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that every person is so different in how

0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 1>they manage and interpret pain. Every person is so different

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>about how they feel about their body that for some

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:34.480
<v Speaker 1>people it is honestly one of the most traumatic and

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 1>full on experiences that you're ever going to have. And

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.480
<v Speaker 1>for some people, you know, it's scared than when it

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:41.319
<v Speaker 1>comes to having their second baby. And I think that's

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>why it's important to talk about the things that no

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 1>one wants to talk about, because it's more realistic. But

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the number one questions that came in Laura,

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I am very curious about it too. Did you shut

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>yourself when you're pushing?

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Did you also push a little poop pooh out?

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Everyone tell you this was the number one question. You're

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 1>all a bunch of sickos. It was the number one

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.399
<v Speaker 1>question that I got asked. What came in two parts? Ay,

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 1>did you shot yourself? B If that was yes, did

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:15.359
<v Speaker 1>you shoot yourself in front of Matt Okay? I hand

0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>on my heart. And do you know what the funny

0:56:17.040 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 1>thing is is that the amount of people who then

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:20.839
<v Speaker 1>wrote back being like, of course you poohed yourself, because

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:26.200
<v Speaker 1>everyone who gives birth poohs theirself. Hand on my heart. I,

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 1>in both pregnancies have never pooed in front of Matt,

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:33.799
<v Speaker 1>nor have I poohed during birth. Interesting, however, I know

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that that is super abnormal, but it is also to

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:39.360
<v Speaker 1>do with the fact that I took some laxatives for

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 1>two days before, so you prepared for it, so you

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't poo yourself. No, okay, I didn't do it because

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to pooh in front of Matt. I

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.840
<v Speaker 1>couldn't care less like I mean whatever, We've done everything

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>in front of each other. It wasn't to do with that.

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It's because I am so petrified by the first pooh

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>after birth that I made sure that I was clean

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 1>as a whistle so I could go for as long

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>as possible with having to pay. Why are you petrified

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.480
<v Speaker 1>on the first pooh after birth? So? Okay? Celest Barber

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 1>has actually described this. She says that the first pooh

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>after birth, this is very in depth. Guys. I'm kind

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>of gross, but I'm gona tell you anyway. Celest Barber

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:14.240
<v Speaker 1>says that the first pooh after birth is the bravest

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 1>pooh that anyone will ever do, And I'm pretty brave poos.

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment that there is nothing

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 1>more petrifying than if you've had stitches and you've had

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>an episiotomy, then doing a Pooh two days or a

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:31.479
<v Speaker 1>day after having having a baby. Why is that? Because

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you think your inside are gonna come out? It just hurts,

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like painful. It is so painful. Doing a Pooh part

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 1>was more painful than having Lola. Oh my god.

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's because it's so tender. I've just been

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:44.920
<v Speaker 2>through this trauma.

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, and you also don't have an epidurol anymore, like

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 1>all of the drugs have worn off, like all the

0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>feel good has gone away, and you're just left with

0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 1>you and your Pooh in a bathroom trying your darnda

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 1>just to get it out. Like and I remember with

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Marley how horrible that first pooh was, So I was

0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like really prepared this time. I was like, I am,

0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>there ain't going to be anything in that passage and

0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:06.240
<v Speaker 1>so yes.

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 2>So how many days after into your food like two,

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, yeah, you're an animal.

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>There we go clean as we saw. So that's way

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 1>too much information, but I knew that we were going

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to get there, so yeah, that soundlike laur A. Now

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the question that I have did you tear? Did you

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.680
<v Speaker 1>need stitches? How many did you need? I've never asked

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>how many stitches I've had. So when I had Marley,

0:58:30.600 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I had a really really intense like I tore and

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I had an episiotomy, so that was not in a

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 1>good way. This time with Lola, they did cut me.

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I had an episiotomy, and I tore a little bit,

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but nowhere near the extent of Marley. That was probably

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the hardest part of this whole birth. I had a

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:54.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of anxiety around my past experience with an episiotomy

0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 1>because I when I had Marley the first time, my

0:58:56.600 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 1>stitches got infected and it took a really long time

0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>for me to heal properly with my first pregnancy, So

0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>when I was pushing and the doctor was like, put

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>your hands down there, you can feel the head, and

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, I put my hands down

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 1>there and I was like is that it? And everything

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 1>just felt so weird. I couldn't tell what I was

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 1>touching because I was so feeling. One, I was so swollen,

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and two I was like, that's you, Glitterius turn around

0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, ah, you would hope that's the head.

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you'd be in a real state of worry

0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>if that was your vagina, and I'm like, I don't

0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:34.600
<v Speaker 1>know anymore, that's all. But yeah, So when he said

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he needed to give me an a pisiotomy, I was like,

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I don't want one. Please don't do that.

0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:40.520
<v Speaker 1>And it was because I thought it was going to

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:42.280
<v Speaker 1>be painful and I thought I would feel it. I

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel a thing. The epidural was really great this time.

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:47.600
<v Speaker 1>The problem I had with my first pregnancy was that

0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 1>my epidural wasn't strong enough and I felt my whole episiotomy.

0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So that was why Marley's birth was quite traumatic. Was

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 1>because I had an episiotomy with zero pain medication, which

0:59:57.680 --> 0:59:59.120
<v Speaker 1>is not something you want to do. I felt like

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I was being stab or sliced open. Well you literally

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<v Speaker 1>are like, that's what it is. But yeah, so this

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<v Speaker 1>time I did have I did have an a pisiotomy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did tear, a first degree tear. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want anyone to hear that and think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's frightening, because I think we talk about tearing as

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<v Speaker 1>though it's like the worst thing in the world. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not as painful as you think it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be, especially if you've had any pain medication, and

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<v Speaker 1>often they'll give you anesthesia anyway they think you're gonna tear.

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<v Speaker 1>That part of it was fine, the stitches and that

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<v Speaker 1>were fine. And as soon as you do have your baby,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this like people talk about that the pain just

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<v Speaker 1>goes away.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I wanted to ask, like, do you pull

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<v Speaker 2>You don't pull a baby out, but do you actually

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<v Speaker 2>get handed the child? Because you've seen all the movies,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so glorified that there's this traumatic moment, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much pain, they're crying, it's blood, it's poohs, whatever else,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they put the baby in your arms and

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<v Speaker 2>then it's like the music starts and all the pain's

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<v Speaker 2>gone and they glance down the baby and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like instant Heaven, is that real?

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<v Speaker 1>It is exactly like that. So I put I did

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<v Speaker 1>pull all out, so like only her head and her

1:00:58.360 --> 1:01:01.320
<v Speaker 1>shoulders were out, and then the obstrition was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can pull your baby out, and so I bent down

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<v Speaker 1>and I pulled Lola out, and I pulled her onto

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<v Speaker 1>my chest. Were you on your back? I was on

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<v Speaker 1>my back. Yeah, So pulled her out and I pulled

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<v Speaker 1>her onto my chest. And the pain honestly does go away,

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<v Speaker 1>or it does for me anyway. Instantly, however, it comes back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fleeting moment. So it goes away, and you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're in the clear, and this is the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what I did that I would really like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe think about it before you do what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I feel great. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go have a shower. I want to go home. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>literally just given birth. I want to go home. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be in the hospital. So I left

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I was able to, which was eight

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<v Speaker 1>hours after I'd given birth. We got out of the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I didn't realize at the time, one, going

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<v Speaker 1>home to a toddler is really really hectic, and I

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<v Speaker 1>probably should have had some more time to rest. But two,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so jacked up on pain medication that I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't fucking feel anything now. And when I got home,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when everything hit me. That's when the pain hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just don't have the ability to lay down

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<v Speaker 1>and take it as easy at home as what you

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<v Speaker 1>would do at the hospital. And I think when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at hospital, people treat you differently. They treat you in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of a fragile way, whereas when

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<v Speaker 1>you get home, people like, oh, you're home, so you're fine,

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<v Speaker 1>get on with it. And so I was getting up

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<v Speaker 1>and getting people cups of tea twelve hours after giving birth,

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<v Speaker 1>and in my mind, I was like, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy? And I was someone else not bringing

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<v Speaker 1>me the tea? Yeah, and I was in so much pain.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I had other people were at my house

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<v Speaker 1>holding my baby whilst I was up getting them cups

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<v Speaker 1>of tea, and I just thought, this is not right.

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<v Speaker 1>Is wild to me, and this is not right. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wish, in retrospect, I had spent more time allowing

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<v Speaker 1>myself to recover. I just want to put a disclaimer

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<v Speaker 1>in there that that was not me. And he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're very good at making tea, though this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a subtle swipe. So I guess, well, that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That you wish you knew more of, or you wish

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<v Speaker 2>people talked more of, or you wish was done differently

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<v Speaker 2>about birth that people aren't speaking about, like one thing

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you think you someone had spoken about before you

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<v Speaker 2>went and gave birth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that in our society, and it's definitely something

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<v Speaker 1>that I am guilty of. But I think that we

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<v Speaker 1>congratulate an overly reward women who get on with life

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<v Speaker 1>quickly after having a baby. And it almost said like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>how great, Look how far she bounced back, look at

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<v Speaker 1>her back doing Yeah, oh you left the house after

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<v Speaker 1>a week, congratulations, you're so amazing. I think that then

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<v Speaker 1>it also puts pressure on people to feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>they should be doing that and they should be achieving

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<v Speaker 1>after giving birth. Birth is so different for every single person.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people physically cannot leave the house for three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>after having a baby. I know that with Mary, I

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<v Speaker 1>physically shouldn't have left the house for three weeks after

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<v Speaker 1>having her, but I felt like I needed to be

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<v Speaker 1>achieving still. I was going back to work. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on my emails, I felt like I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost like you have something to prove exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think that we because we reward people

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<v Speaker 1>and we say, oh, like, congratulations, I wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the house when I had my baby

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<v Speaker 1>at that age, or you know, like it sets this

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<v Speaker 1>precedent that we can do everything, and as women, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sure we can do everything. We're fucking amazing. We shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to, but we shouldn't have to and we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to. You know, if there's ever going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a time in life where you're allowed to take time

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<v Speaker 1>out to heal, to be in a quiet space to

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<v Speaker 1>really connect with your child, it's straight after giving birth.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that takes you two weeks, if that takes

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<v Speaker 1>you two months, if that takes you six months, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not leaven the house for a year. But honestly, though, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if it takes you, it's just it's the most all

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<v Speaker 1>encompassing change that you're ever going to experience that you

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<v Speaker 1>really should be allowed to afford yourself the time to

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<v Speaker 1>adjust to that change. And we are going to do

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<v Speaker 1>an episode on this. It's the idea of the constant

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<v Speaker 1>hustle and the harder you're working and the harder you're hustling,

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<v Speaker 1>and the person that's sleeping the least amount is the

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<v Speaker 1>person that must be succeeding. We will do an episode

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<v Speaker 1>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think it's a type of habit. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guilty of this. I don't have kids, but I'm guilty

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<v Speaker 2>of the idea of I can't ever have time where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing something productive. And I know only.

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<v Speaker 1>Other person I know that's an extremist in that sense

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<v Speaker 1>is you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like, for so many years you've been so

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<v Speaker 2>busy because you have been building your own businesses, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you've had babies. You don't know how to not

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. Like you physically, I know, you cannot sit

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<v Speaker 2>there and really do nothing. Even if you're sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>feeding and watching TV, you'll have one hand on an email.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's this misleading narrative that busy equals successful,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And also like, as women, we have been

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<v Speaker 1>fed this idea that you can have it all. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have the babies, you can have the career,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have the relationship, you can have the social network,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, yes, we can have those things, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have them all at the same time because the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that's going to do is give you immense burnout.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know that we've spoken about that in

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<v Speaker 1>season one. We did a whole episode on you know

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have it all at the same time, But

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that that's something, especially now that we

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<v Speaker 1>have added a whole new member to the mix, we

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<v Speaker 1>should probably rehash that and talk about that because I

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<v Speaker 1>really do think that there is such an extreme amount

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure that we put on ourselves to just be

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<v Speaker 1>fucking good at everything, and sometimes you have to stop

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<v Speaker 1>and take time out for yourself and go, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>doing nothing is actually a bit of mental health and

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of self care.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding when I say this, and this, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>is going to sound ridiculous. I'm aware of that. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to highlight something in my life. I am

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<v Speaker 2>struggling and this year you're gonna laugh because you've just

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<v Speaker 2>got two kids. In business, I am struggling to have

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship successfully right now, just with other businesses. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never had it, so I don't know. I've never had

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<v Speaker 2>to share my time and it's such a little thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm aware of that, but it's something I'm having to

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<v Speaker 2>renavigate I'm like, how do I give so much of

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<v Speaker 2>my time to someone else now when I have to

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<v Speaker 2>be giving so much of my time to my work.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just something I'm having to navigate at a really,

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<v Speaker 2>really small base level, and I will figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't imagine what it's like for people like

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<v Speaker 2>you that have kids, that have a business and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to have a relationship and trying to have a social

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<v Speaker 2>life and do everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what it does is like it makes me feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a failure in other aspects of my life. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I I feel like I'm being a good mum,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being a shit friend. When i feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being great at work, I'm being a shit mum. I

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<v Speaker 1>never feel like I'm good at everything at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a constant battle with guilt that I play.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of women play this battle

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<v Speaker 1>where you know you've fed this idea that you can

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<v Speaker 1>be great at everything and you just physically can't. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I do think that Instagram is such a bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>fake show, Oh my god, such a dumpster fire, And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I feel guilty about playing into that and perpetuating

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<v Speaker 1>that storyline. You know, people write to me and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>say on Instagram like, oh, like you're doing so well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so amazing to see how you are

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<v Speaker 1>getting out there and going to the zoo and doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with Mali. And you're like, yeah, that was a

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<v Speaker 1>bloody struggle. Yeah, And I'm like, I am not and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I do and I am trying to keep

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation really authentic, but like, I am not succeeding.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we have Tampa tantrums. I've not seen any of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends in five weeks since Lla was born. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen you, but apart from you, I've not seen

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else. And I'm like a fake friend. Really no,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>We see each other to work as well, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>two birds one stone.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think that social media plays such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge role in perpetuating that idea that we can do everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. Thank you, You're doing a good job of

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<v Speaker 1>keeping it real, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know about after birth after what happens

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<v Speaker 2>do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a your birth, like there is a there's

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<v Speaker 2>literally an after birth, but then you have these am

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<v Speaker 2>I correct me if I'm wrong? You have these pains

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<v Speaker 2>after the birth, and like you don't just go back

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<v Speaker 2>to normal, and you're like if vagina gets tired and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't experience anything else. Like I remember you coming

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<v Speaker 2>over and you're like, oh, I've got to change my

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<v Speaker 2>path and I was like what, yeah, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's that about. So for anybody who hasn't had

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, then this might be information you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have had a baby, you'll be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there. So you bleed for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>after having a baby. So I think we're on a

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<v Speaker 1>week five now and I'm still bleeding. Really see, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that. Yeah, I think it's usually around six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But if for everybody it's different. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>for one of my close girlfriends it was ten weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and for one of my friends it was only three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half weeks, So it really varies. But you

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<v Speaker 1>have very heavy bleeding after having a baby that continues

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<v Speaker 1>for quite a substantial amount of time, and it obviously

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<v Speaker 1>tapers off over time. I had a lot of blood

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<v Speaker 1>clots this time, so it's pretty frightening to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and to have a blood clot the size

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<v Speaker 1>of amandarin fall out of you and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a second child. I think my servix had

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<v Speaker 1>just fallen out of somebody fell into the toilet. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>look at that pro lapse there, guys. Whoops you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of clots after having Lola, so

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<v Speaker 1>basically I had given birth and then had to You

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<v Speaker 1>have to birth the placenta, which sounds weird, but they

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<v Speaker 1>also can give you an injection. So after having Lola,

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<v Speaker 1>the nurse came to me and was like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want the injection which will help you to have contractions

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<v Speaker 1>to get the placenta out, And it means that the

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<v Speaker 1>placenta comes out in one piece instead of it being

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<v Speaker 1>broken or bit's being left behind. And I was like, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had every other drug. Give me some more. Get

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<v Speaker 1>her out. So my placenter came out really easily. And

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<v Speaker 1>the placenta is weird. It's like your body creates a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other organ. It's an organ that is grows just

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<v Speaker 1>for the purpose of birth, and then you get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of it and it's massive and it smells weird.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole thing is weird. People eat it too. I

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<v Speaker 2>have had friends that they sent them plus center off.

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<v Speaker 1>That not kidding. They send them plus center.

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<v Speaker 2>Off and there are people that make it into capsules

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<v Speaker 2>because it's I mean, it's the most nutritious thing you

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<v Speaker 2>can feed your body. It literally is, because it keeps

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<v Speaker 2>a baby alive. Then they take the tablets.

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard of all this. Look, I have zero

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<v Speaker 1>judgment in anybody who wants to eat their placenta or

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<v Speaker 1>who uh puts it in their hair, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it. Highly nourishing, I know this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not for me. So no, I didn't keep my placenter.

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<v Speaker 1>They put it in a tray and they probably put

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<v Speaker 1>it in the bin. But then I had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of blood clots after that, so that was something that

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<v Speaker 1>I had to manage for the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything after birth is weird, Like when you breastfeed, you

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<v Speaker 1>get contractions, so that's something people don't know. So every

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<v Speaker 1>time you feed your baby, you feeding your baby releases

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<v Speaker 1>a hormone that helps your uterus contract back down to

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<v Speaker 1>its normal size. So every time you feed for those

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<v Speaker 1>first couple of days after having a baby, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a gush of blood again because it's your uterus starting

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<v Speaker 1>to contract and go back down and it takes several

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<v Speaker 1>weeks for your uterus to even go back down to

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<v Speaker 1>the size that it normally was. It's just stuff no

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<v Speaker 1>one talks about. And the after birth. So those contractions

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<v Speaker 1>that you have while breastfeeding, they can be incredibly painful,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can be more and more painful with each

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive pregnancy. So with Marley, they were painful, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were top like I could tolerate them. With Lola, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I was like I had to go and have

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<v Speaker 1>a hot shower because I was in agony after feeding Lola,

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<v Speaker 1>because I felt like I was in labor again. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the level of the contractions that you can have,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one, no one talks about it. No one says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you deal with your after birth pains? Have

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<v Speaker 1>two ends, have two panadoles and two neuropan and a

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<v Speaker 1>lie down. You know, women tell you women are not

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<v Speaker 1>given enough credit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being like, from the day you conceived, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>time till it's already out and you're still feeding after

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<v Speaker 2>and you're stilling agonies like women men should be cherishing

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<v Speaker 2>the ground we walk on.

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<v Speaker 1>But the you know, and I know that everyone says this,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the female body is so incredible what it

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<v Speaker 1>can achieve and what it can do, and how it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to what it was like, that's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that it still blows my mind. I mean when I

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<v Speaker 1>was pregnant, I was telling you guys all about my

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<v Speaker 1>swollen vagina. Hey, I do have a question. It's back

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<v Speaker 1>to normal. I looked down literally about five days after

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<v Speaker 1>having Laula, and I was like, that's the vagina I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's gone back to normal. Great love that for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy congrass. I literally ran out and showed man. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, look, it's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Get on me. No, not yet, not until I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>birth control. I'm not having another baby for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Has he tried your breast milk? And has he done

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<v Speaker 2>it from nimble?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a question that came in over Instagram? No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just mebeing a Sico. Okay, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>He he always said he was going to try it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he never actually has. However, I'll I would, I

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<v Speaker 1>would try it. I would try it. However, I was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the bath and Matt was like fully closed,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the toilet having conversations. So I was laying

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<v Speaker 1>in the bath and we were just chatting. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a hot shower of hot bath, your

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<v Speaker 1>boob will just start leaking because the hot, the steam

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<v Speaker 1>and everything just gets your milk flowing. So I like,

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<v Speaker 1>my boob just started spraying milk in the bath and

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a chat and he was like, how far

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<v Speaker 1>can it spray? And I was like, I, reckon, I

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<v Speaker 1>could hit you with it from here if I try

1:13:22.360 --> 1:13:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it well, like a squeeze yeah, And he was like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>shut up, and I was like, yeah, I reckon, I

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<v Speaker 1>could squirt you with it, and he was like really,

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<v Speaker 1>And then in the same action, I sq straight across

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<v Speaker 1>the face. I just squeeze it to do that. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I even surprised myself. I didn't actually think it was

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<v Speaker 1>dinner hit him in the face, but it hit him

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<v Speaker 1>straight across the face. So did he try it then

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<v Speaker 1>lick it off his shoe? Jesus, No. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's sick. I think that's normal. I think there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of people listening to this podcast

1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:52.479
<v Speaker 1>who are going to turn it off at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think tasting breast milk, like I reckon, A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people will be the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, A lot of people will be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course we tried it. Isn't it weird though that

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<v Speaker 1>we think trying our own human breast milk is weird,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're quite okay with drinking cow's milk, isn't that?

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<v Speaker 1>This is my point? Have you tried your own breast milk? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I've tried my own breast milk. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was sweet. That's what I try it. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to give you my breast milk. Don't be weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to be weird, but I'm interested. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you really want it, I can put

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<v Speaker 1>it in a cup and I'll walk away, and if

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<v Speaker 1>it's drunk by the time I get back or we

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<v Speaker 1>know what happens, give me an AREO with it? Okay? So,

1:14:24.720 --> 1:14:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you have any other question? Most of

1:14:26.280 --> 1:14:28.519
<v Speaker 1>these questions that Britta is asking have actually come from

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<v Speaker 1>you guys specifically, and come over Instagram, so she's not

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<v Speaker 1>totally the sick ol in the situation. No, they have

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<v Speaker 1>come from the Instagram. From the Instagram, I do have

1:14:37.040 --> 1:14:39.439
<v Speaker 1>some more questions, but they're pretty big ones, and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think there is a lot to them that I

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<v Speaker 1>think will make a whole episode on and that is

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<v Speaker 1>things like gender disappointment that he s things like baby blues,

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling that you know, not everyone has a baby

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<v Speaker 1>and then feels totally fine and gets on with life.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people feel really down about it, and baby blues

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<v Speaker 1>is a real thing, oh absolutely, and you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hormone imbalance as well. I mean, I definitely think

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<v Speaker 1>that we should talk about this idea of gender disappointment.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you guys all know that I was so convinced

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<v Speaker 1>that we were having a boy that I definitely wasn't disappointed,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was shocked and it took me a while

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<v Speaker 1>to accept the fact that maybe I won't be a

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<v Speaker 1>mum to a boy. That was something that definitely took

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<v Speaker 1>me a while to kind of comprehend. And I love

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<v Speaker 1>Lola and I'm so happy that she is who she is,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, I was like, I've always

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<v Speaker 1>thought that I would have a son, and I always

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<v Speaker 1>believe that I would be a mum to a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that Matt felt that exact same feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so much to it because you're not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to say that you're disappointed by the gender of your child,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're so lucky and privileged to have a child

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place, that it's like you can't verbalize

1:15:46.040 --> 1:15:49.040
<v Speaker 1>those things because it's ungrateful. But it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>people don't still feel those feelings, and it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that those feelings aren't still real and valid. This is

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<v Speaker 1>why I think there's a whole topic, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole big chat. Because I had a good friend that

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<v Speaker 1>was really open with me. She's got a few kids,

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<v Speaker 1>but her first child, she for whatever reason, she was

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<v Speaker 1>just convinced it was a girl. There was no science

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<v Speaker 1>behind it. She was just convinced it was a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone thought it was a girl. Everyone told it was

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<v Speaker 1>a girl. Everone's like, oh the way he carrying a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>She wanted a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>She was always gonna be happy with whatever she'd bought

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<v Speaker 2>girl things. I came out she had a boy, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said to me, don't get me wrong, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with my son. I love him, But I would

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<v Speaker 2>be lying if I didn't say I had gender disappointment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had never heard of it. But it's a

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<v Speaker 2>thing because she went and spoke to someone about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not that she doesn't love for him. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not that she doesn't have the connection, because she did,

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<v Speaker 2>but it took her a while to get her head

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<v Speaker 2>around the same thing. She's like, I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do with him. I had not let myself even

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<v Speaker 2>think I was having a boy. He was this boy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had dressed him in pink clothes because that's

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<v Speaker 2>all I had. She literally did not buy anything, so

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<v Speaker 2>the first couple of days he was like in these

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<v Speaker 2>pretty questionable outfits. But she was like, I think more

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<v Speaker 2>people need to speak about it, because it's not taking

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<v Speaker 2>away from the fact that I'm grateful and I love

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<v Speaker 2>the child, but I had these feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's spoken to other mothers and they've had it,

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<v Speaker 2>so I I think a lot of people feel that,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one feels like they're allowed to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it because they think people are going to judge them

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<v Speaker 2>for not being grateful and not being thankful, and you

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<v Speaker 2>should just be happy that you have this healthy child.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the reality is that there are people out

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<v Speaker 2>there who would judge them. You know that there are

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<v Speaker 2>people who maybe you know, and especially because having a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, is such a privilege, and not everybody

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<v Speaker 2>is able to have a baby in the same way

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<v Speaker 2>that I can. You know, I can have sex with

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<v Speaker 2>a man and I can get pregnant and I can

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<v Speaker 2>have a baby. For those people who struggle, or for

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<v Speaker 2>those people who have been through pregnancy loss or who

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<v Speaker 2>have been through child loss, there's this feeling of like,

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<v Speaker 2>how dare you be ungrateful for what you get because

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<v Speaker 2>you have received a baby, you know, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>some people would want, no matter what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. This isn't a feeling but being ungrateful. No.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is is like those two those two

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<v Speaker 1>feelings don't have to live that they're separate to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like, just because one

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<v Speaker 1>person feels slightly disappointed or slightly like like they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to rationalize their identity now that they are no longer

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the mum to a boy or the

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<v Speaker 1>mum to a girl, doesn't lessen anybody else's pain or suffering,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Like that's the thing. We need to realize

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<v Speaker 1>that those two things are very very separate.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I just do think I find the topic really interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not a topic I've heard a lot about.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would like to do some research more into

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of gender disappointment. Maybe we can get my

1:18:16.920 --> 1:18:18.640
<v Speaker 2>friend on that has been throwed if she's happy to

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can get someone else that's really experienced it

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<v Speaker 2>and is happy to talk about it, because it is

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<v Speaker 2>something that's happening, and it is something that should be

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about so that other women that experience it don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel guilty and don't feel like they're doing something wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that that's the big thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you already feel guilty about fricking everything when you've

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<v Speaker 1>just had a baby, Like you feel guilty, you know,

1:18:38.640 --> 1:18:40.439
<v Speaker 1>are you have it? Do you have enough milk? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you breastfeed? Don't you breastfeed? Is are they sleeping enough?

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they're screaming and you feel angry because

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<v Speaker 1>they're screaming all night and you haven't had any sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're angry at them, you feel guilty that

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<v Speaker 1>you're angry at them. So I think it's just another

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<v Speaker 1>thing in a long list of feeling guilty that you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by having conversations about it, we can overcome

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<v Speaker 1>that normal absolutely, and like you know in saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been nights where Lola has screamed non stop and

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<v Speaker 1>I have felt angry. I don't feel loving, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel calm. I just feel like I need to leave

1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you here to cry because you're screaming, just get it

1:19:17.880 --> 1:19:20.639
<v Speaker 1>gets to somewhere in your soul, like in your inner chest,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, oh, like I cannot stop this. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's understandable why women feel like they lose their sense

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<v Speaker 1>of self and they lose control. And it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>you lose control and you do anything or behave badly,

1:19:32.920 --> 1:19:35.600
<v Speaker 1>but you just feel like, I'm supposed to love this

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<v Speaker 1>baby all the time, endlessly, but there are times where

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<v Speaker 1>you actually feel so soul destroyed and so frustrated that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't make the situation better. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>more that we talk about that and how normal that is,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's okay sometimes to walk out of the

1:19:49.880 --> 1:19:51.400
<v Speaker 1>room and let your baby cry for a couple of

1:19:51.439 --> 1:19:54.000
<v Speaker 1>minutes while you calm down, I think that we've covered

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in this episode, and there will be so

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<v Speaker 1>many more episodes that we are going to be talking

1:19:58.240 --> 1:20:00.800
<v Speaker 1>about things like this, because it's now huge part of

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<v Speaker 1>well I guess our life, Like obviously I don't read

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<v Speaker 1>by proxy. Yeah, I am by DeVault. No, but there's

1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:09.640
<v Speaker 1>there are so many and it's so interesting when you

1:20:09.640 --> 1:20:12.240
<v Speaker 1>start talking about there are so many little like subtopics

1:20:12.240 --> 1:20:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that we can talk about, and we will definitely talk

1:20:14.800 --> 1:20:18.160
<v Speaker 1>about because Laura and myself, but we're both passionate about

1:20:18.200 --> 1:20:21.759
<v Speaker 1>normalizing things that aren't really deemed as normal, aren't spoken

1:20:21.800 --> 1:20:24.559
<v Speaker 1>about enough, or are sort of like pushed under the car.

1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:27.240
<v Speaker 1>But we've always been big advocates on this podcast and

1:20:27.280 --> 1:20:28.880
<v Speaker 1>being able to bring these things to light. So we

1:20:28.920 --> 1:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>will continue to do that. So don't worry if we

1:20:30.760 --> 1:20:33.240
<v Speaker 1>haven't answered something in this episode today. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Like I mean, there's gonna be parts of

1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:37.479
<v Speaker 1>this that aren't relative to people who don't have children

1:20:37.560 --> 1:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>or who don't want to have children. But like we say,

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<v Speaker 1>with everything, in particular the miscarriage conversation, it's always nice

1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to understand other people's experiences so that you know how

1:20:47.120 --> 1:20:49.720
<v Speaker 1>to relate to someone who is struggling with something and

1:20:49.880 --> 1:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>know like the best way to not make the situation worse,

1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like to be able to

1:20:54.280 --> 1:20:57.080
<v Speaker 1>be empathetic and to understand where someone's coming from without

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<v Speaker 1>saying something or behaving in a way that's dismissive of

1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody else's feelings. So I think that there's always something

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<v Speaker 1>to learn in listening to other people's stories. Hey, gay guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it is time for the last segment. And we love

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<v Speaker 1>doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's our suck and sweet, our highlight and our low

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<v Speaker 2>light of the week. Sometimes it's amazing, sometimes it's ridiculous.

1:21:24.960 --> 1:21:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we feel very entitled, but either way, it's just

1:21:27.600 --> 1:21:29.879
<v Speaker 2>a way to talk about, you know, how your week'spen,

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<v Speaker 2>what the best thing's been, So Laura, you can kick

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<v Speaker 2>it off. My suck for the week is Matt has

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<v Speaker 2>been working heaps, like so much, and he and he

1:21:38.960 --> 1:21:41.439
<v Speaker 2>got a big job just after I had Lola, So

1:21:41.840 --> 1:21:44.320
<v Speaker 2>about a week after I had Lola, Matt got contracted

1:21:44.360 --> 1:21:47.720
<v Speaker 2>for some work and he's been super busy, and it's

1:21:47.840 --> 1:21:50.320
<v Speaker 2>just meant that I've had a lot of time, which

1:21:50.439 --> 1:21:52.400
<v Speaker 2>normally I would have a lot more support from him

1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:54.920
<v Speaker 2>because obviously I work a lot as well, And so

1:21:55.040 --> 1:21:57.760
<v Speaker 2>it's been a really hard juggle this past week with

1:21:57.800 --> 1:22:00.600
<v Speaker 2>the two kids and with little sleep, trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>emails and like I said earlier in the episode, trying

1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to do everything and feeling like you're not doing anything. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's been something I really struggled with this week in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But my highlight for the week, which in one aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, damn you, Lola because it wasn't to me.

1:22:14.320 --> 1:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>But Lola smiled for the first time that wasn't a

1:22:16.840 --> 1:22:18.880
<v Speaker 1>gas smile. So four weeks old is when they kind

1:22:18.880 --> 1:22:22.519
<v Speaker 1>of start smiling as a reaction to something, and she

1:22:22.880 --> 1:22:26.160
<v Speaker 1>fully smiled at Matt Woe. So Matt was making some

1:22:26.200 --> 1:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>cute faces at her, and she smiled, and I was like,

1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:30.479
<v Speaker 1>damn you. I spend every day with you all day. Yeah, exactly,

1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Breeze smile at me. You know, her first word is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be daddy, saddy. Yeah, I hate you, mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for having two thirteen year old daughters

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<v Speaker 1>who hate me. No, they won't. They love me though

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<v Speaker 1>they will. I'll be the favorite. Have fun Annie, Okay, Britt,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your suck? And suite my suck? Probably this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually ridiculous, but I'm quite a competitive person in like

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<v Speaker 2>sports and games and things like that, and the worst

1:22:54.880 --> 1:22:57.599
<v Speaker 2>person for me to probably date is a professional athlete.

1:22:57.600 --> 1:23:00.679
<v Speaker 2>There's also very competitive. So we played board game last night,

1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:02.799
<v Speaker 2>and you would not think that you could get competitive

1:23:02.800 --> 1:23:05.080
<v Speaker 2>in a board game, but we were like at each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on opposite teams.

1:23:06.080 --> 1:23:07.680
<v Speaker 2>He was on the boys team, I was on the

1:23:07.760 --> 1:23:10.479
<v Speaker 2>girls team, and it was horrific, Like we almost divorced

1:23:10.520 --> 1:23:12.080
<v Speaker 2>over it. But I think there's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things. It's not the first time we've played mini

1:23:13.720 --> 1:23:16.240
<v Speaker 2>golf before, and we've gotten into a brawl playing tennis, Like,

1:23:16.360 --> 1:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm in a competitive I'm in a brawl

1:23:18.880 --> 1:23:20.439
<v Speaker 2>with him when we play tennis, Like, how can I

1:23:20.439 --> 1:23:23.160
<v Speaker 2>get competitive with someone that's a professional tennis player. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think that there's gonna be a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>moments in the future where the two of us, who

1:23:27.320 --> 1:23:29.040
<v Speaker 2>are highly competitive are going to have blowouts because we

1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>both want to play sport all the time. I've got

1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:32.680
<v Speaker 2>to accept that he's a professional athlete. He's probably going

1:23:32.720 --> 1:23:33.120
<v Speaker 2>to be better.

1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I reckon, he's probably gonna beat you. But also, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not really a suck, Like it's not that bad. No,

1:23:38.360 --> 1:23:39.680
<v Speaker 1>But that's my point, Like that was the worst thing

1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that happened to me. Life is pretty rosy now in

1:23:42.080 --> 1:23:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Britney's corner. Sweet, she's in love. I haven't sun for

1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:49.120
<v Speaker 1>so long. Guys, my sweet, I have two? Is that

1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:51.519
<v Speaker 1>all right? Oh? Sure, go on, bak the rules? Am

1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I too?

1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I think that this is like, I'm so chuffed with

1:23:54.760 --> 1:23:57.960
<v Speaker 2>both of these. Since I've died my hand blonde, which

1:23:58.040 --> 1:24:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you guys, I've gone blonde, it's still on me, not

1:24:00.920 --> 1:24:03.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna have it forever. It was just a phase since

1:24:03.520 --> 1:24:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I've had my hair blonde. Every day I get someone

1:24:05.320 --> 1:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>message to me saying, I'm my god, you look like

1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Hawkins. I thought you're Jennifer Hawkins.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. We laughed so aggressively at that, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you actually know me in real life, there is

1:24:15.680 --> 1:24:17.879
<v Speaker 1>nothing about me that resembles Jennifer Hawkins.

1:24:17.920 --> 1:24:20.679
<v Speaker 2>I get that maybe sometimes I photograph on the right

1:24:20.720 --> 1:24:23.280
<v Speaker 2>angle and I might look one percent like her, but

1:24:23.360 --> 1:24:26.719
<v Speaker 2>it's really You've all made my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. You're like hot as the sun. She's hot as

1:24:29.080 --> 1:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>the sun.

1:24:29.640 --> 1:24:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Like we're comparison. But I'm frothing that, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>My second suite was that I have had a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>With Rebel Wilson this week, but like whatever, so Britt

1:24:39.680 --> 1:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>asked at Rebel Wilson. She asked her if she'd be

1:24:41.760 --> 1:24:44.360
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast, and she wrote back and politely declined.

1:24:44.360 --> 1:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>But that's still Brittany touching base with an actual, real

1:24:47.920 --> 1:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>life celebrity.

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<v Speaker 2>I shot my I shot my shot this week, and

1:24:51.479 --> 1:24:52.599
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, I'm just going to message

1:24:52.600 --> 1:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Rebel because I we all know I love her and

1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:56.799
<v Speaker 2>like as someone that would love to be an actor

1:24:56.840 --> 1:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>in comedy and looking at Rebel Wilson, I just love it.

1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:01.679
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, gonna shoot my shot message around.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, babe, how are you. We'd love

1:25:05.000 --> 1:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to have you on the podcast. Blah blah blah.

1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Didn't even expect her response. In two minutes, she wrote

1:25:09.800 --> 1:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>straight back to me. She was like, hey, love, thanks

1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:14.599
<v Speaker 2>for kind words, congrats that your podcast is so amazing.

1:25:14.760 --> 1:25:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually overseas film in a movie at the moment,

1:25:16.680 --> 1:25:19.120
<v Speaker 2>so like I can't, but definitely we'll be in contact

1:25:19.120 --> 1:25:20.840
<v Speaker 2>when you know the time comes, basically, which I'm not

1:25:20.920 --> 1:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>ever expecting her to come back and be in conduct.

1:25:22.920 --> 1:25:24.360
<v Speaker 1>But I was like, yeah, no worries, babe, played are

1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:27.400
<v Speaker 1>so cool. I was like, anyway, I was just so

1:25:27.400 --> 1:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>stoked with that and that's it. That's my sweets for

1:25:29.280 --> 1:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the week. Well, on that note, guys, that has been

1:25:31.960 --> 1:25:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a bloody long episode. It is so good to be back.

1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>We have missed you. We have also kind of dropped

1:25:37.200 --> 1:25:39.559
<v Speaker 1>the ball a little bit on Instagram and on Facebook

1:25:39.600 --> 1:25:41.519
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of weeks. We really did take

1:25:41.520 --> 1:25:44.479
<v Speaker 1>a break. But now that we're back, we are holding

1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:46.639
<v Speaker 1>the reins to everything and we were back on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget to keep your accidently on filters coming in guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that and we got some really really good

1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:52.600
<v Speaker 2>ones this week, so just make sure you're sliding too.

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<v Speaker 1>The DM guys. You can send it to our Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>which is at Life Uncut Podcast. You can send it

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<v Speaker 1>to our Facebook group which is also at Life Uncut

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast group. If you're not in the Facebook group, sign

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<v Speaker 1>up where you at. It's good fun and it's also

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<v Speaker 1>a great place for you to ask your questions and

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<v Speaker 1>get a wealth of answers from other people who are

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<v Speaker 1>lack minded and they're just incredibly supportive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really great group and they're having amazing meetups

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, like huge meetups where all these people

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<v Speaker 2>that have never met each other are starting to become

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<v Speaker 2>friends because they're bonding over a shared experience. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you do, if you're in a city now and you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make new friends and you don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to make new friends, this could actually be a really,

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<v Speaker 2>really great way. So there are groups on the discussion group.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like separate subgroups where they have meetup groups for

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<v Speaker 2>their city. So absolutely cannot recommend that enough. And to

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<v Speaker 2>you guys that are meeting up and the big Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>group that met up, oh my god, you guys are amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>We absolutely love to see that, so thank you and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that you invite us next time, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gip that we didn't get an invite to

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<v Speaker 1>our own meetup group. But anyway, guys, you know the drill.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell your mum, tell your dad, tell your dog, tell

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<v Speaker 1>you Nan, tell everybody and share the love because we

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<v Speaker 1>love love vac the bobany Apac Happen. Madame Day