1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Joining me on the line right now is the Northern 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,159 Speaker 1: Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy. Good morning to your commissioner. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning, Commissioner. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Six lives lost, one of those believed to be a child. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: What do we know so far about this terrible crash? 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Look, firstly, you know, the thoughts are with the community 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: and everyone involved, first responders and people who have actually 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: driven past it, because it's very distressing, very traumatic, and 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: very upsetting for the Northern Terrechiary community. They pointed out 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: just before five o'clock on Friday, about twelve kilometers south 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: of Pine Creek, a road train has collided with a 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: gray Paguero and as we know now contained six people. 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: We understand there's a number of children in that vehicle, 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: which is very upsetting, and we obviously confirmed there was 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: one infant, but there's looks like there's a number of 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: children in that vehicle after their collision, that both the 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: vehicles have caught on fire. I know, the heroism of 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: the truck driver and his colleague who made an effort 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: to try and save life but just couldn't in the circumstances, 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: just cause it was you know, on the fire and 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: very dangerous and you know they went to Catherine Hospital 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: and were treated, but you know, the psychological trauma for 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: them would be just incredible to our thoughts with them 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: across the weekend we've been down at the site. You know, 25 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: our thoughts and you know, but the professionalism are first 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: responders and services, the police, Saint John's, the fire service, 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: emergency services, all those involved have been absolutely incredible. You know. 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: We've had the Disaster Victim Identification team down there for 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: a number of days because of the the actual scene 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: and the circumstances around the crash, and we've had to 31 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: collect obviously evidentiary material to look at identifications and that's 32 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: where the science will come into it now with forensic services, 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: and we're hoping that we may have some answers by 34 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Thursday through our DNA process so it can actually confirm 35 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: with family and who's involved. We have some idea of 36 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: the vehicle left Catherine around about two thirty the Pagero 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: and traveled north where it's had the crash. We're asking 38 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: for people who may have seen the vehicle. It's a 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: great Pagero and it's Northern Churchary registered c D five 40 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: six ww IF anyone's seen it or has any dashcam 41 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: footage trucks going past, or cars or may have seen 42 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: at the side of the road, if they can bring 43 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: up a one three one triple four and quite a 44 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: reference number for me, it's one oh four seven zero 45 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: seven two four. That's one o four seven zero seven 46 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: two four. That's so two. Lots lots of investigative arms 47 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: in this. We've got obviously the odification and the closure 48 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: for family and that respectful pathway, and we've also got 49 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: the reasons about why this has happened. Yeah, you know, 50 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: we're up to about nineteen and the road our depths 51 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: on the Northern Churchiy Roads compared to over forty the 52 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: same time last year. But nineteen deaths is way too 53 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 2: many deaths on the Northern Churchy roads. And we've got 54 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: the school holidays at the moment, and we've got people 55 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: moving about returning back to jurisdictions because the wet season's approaching, 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: so we've got a few vehicles on the road. I 57 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: just urge everyone please drive carefully, drive within your limitations, 58 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: make sure you don't get tied and plan your trip, 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: don't drink and drive, don't be distracted so you know 60 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: we're on this crash. We've got to make sure, you know, 61 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: all avenues are explored and ruled out, whether it's distraction, fatigue, alcohol, 62 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: We just don't know the answers yet, but we need 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: to work out why. 64 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, inquiring, it seems like there are a lot of 65 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: questions that still remain unanswered. Police Commissioner, can I just 66 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: ask you said that it's now believed it it's a 67 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: number of children that were in that car, do you 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: know how many? 69 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: I can't be definity if we just know that there's 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: a number of young people where you can assume that 71 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: some mum and dad and children at this point, and 72 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: it looks like they're probably from the Big Rivers area 73 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: of the Northern Territory. So incredibly sad and it's going 74 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: to be very impacting upon and it is now on 75 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory community. But once, you know, we say, 76 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: once that identification is revealed and it's you know, it 77 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: comes home a lot harder for the territory. So that's 78 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: where we just need to look after each other, you know, 79 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: and you know the first responders as well. You know 80 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: that's I've set it before. This is very traumatic and 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: distressing and upsetting response, and it'll take its toll, whether 82 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: it's immediate or you know, sometime in the future. But 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: you know, the hard work and the incredible professionalism of 84 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: our people that roll out to such tragedy is commendable. 85 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Police Commissioner. That is absolute tragic and believed to be 86 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: from the Big Rivers region. I mean, that's a region 87 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: that is just going to They're going to be heartbroken 88 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: by what's going on. 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know, just as well as all your listeners, 90 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: the territory is a small place and we care about 91 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: each other, and I think it is it's an absolute tragedy, 92 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: and it's really it's as hard any road death or 93 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: any death in their community is significant and hurts, but 94 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: when you get six in one crash, it's just it's awful. 95 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: And so by Thursday you are thinking that there may 96 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: be some further answers when it comes to the DNA 97 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: and some of the work that the victim identification team 98 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: is going through. I mean it sounds like it is 99 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: going to be a huge body of work for those offices. 100 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Katie, and you know they're very well trained 101 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: in this that we invest nationally more than two victory 102 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: are really well regarded in this field. We've got some 103 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: really good people who know the business, and I'll work 104 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: hand in glove with the detectives as well the Major 105 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: Crash Investigation Unit, who are collecting evidence, you know, backtracking 106 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: looking at CCTV. And that's why it's really important that 107 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: if any members of the public have seen the vehicle 108 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: or have any dash cam footage, and some people have 109 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: already submitted dash cam footage to us, which is really helpful, 110 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: but it helps us put together the picture, and obviously 111 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: the imagery helps us identify them and basically corroborate what 112 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: the scientists will look at as well. So the sooner 113 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: we can get identification, the sooner we can be closed 114 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: to the family, and so the sooner we can put 115 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: support service in place for everyone who's impacted. 116 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: Commission. I don't want to put words in your mouth, 117 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: but obviously, looking at what you've seed just a moment ago, 118 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: that it does look as though it was a mum 119 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: and dad in a vehicle with their kids. So potentially 120 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: we could have a lot of four kids here as possible. 121 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: I can't I can't give that answer. I don't know. 122 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: I've got to let the forensic scientists work through the 123 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: identification process to government. But what I can confirm is 124 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: we've got six six people that have passed away tragically, 125 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: and a number of them are children. 126 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: Can I ask in terms of the frontline services that 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: were required at the scene, can you talk me through 128 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: just how extensive the work was at the scene on Friday. 129 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: So you've got the report of quite a significant event 130 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: occurring twelve kilometers to the south of Pine Creek. So 131 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: we mobilize a few police stations, Catherine deployed. The remote 132 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: stations up the highway get deployed because we've got to 133 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: look at traffic management. The highway was closed for a 134 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: period of time because there was obviously safety concern because 135 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: there was a fire burning. The fire service go, we've 136 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: got two occupants in the road train were injured and 137 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: in shock. So Saint John's deploy and then all the 138 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: planning goes through from our joint Emergency Communications Center to 139 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: get all additional resources there, emergency services, traffic controllers, Department 140 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: of Construction planning, you know, look at alternate routes for 141 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: the highway. It's an arterial road that we you know, 142 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: we need to open up to make sure people can 143 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: still move about and supply lines day open, so all 144 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: that planning that goes into place, and that's over seventy 145 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: two hours. So we managed to open the highway partially 146 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: across the weekend. Now it's you know, that's been rehabilitated now, 147 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: so the highway's back up and running. But that's an 148 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: operation that runs twenty four to seven. So you know, 149 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: you've got a number of people that are working tirelessly 150 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: day and night collecting evidence and obviously then the broader 151 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: range of trying to engage with community and backtrack to 152 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: work out who these people are so it can make 153 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 2: as a priority to find out who their family are 154 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: so we can make the communication. And I dare say 155 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: that at some point in time there's going to be 156 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: someone in community who realizes they haven't heard from their 157 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: family for a number of days now, and they'll start 158 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: asking questions and that'll you know, that's we need to 159 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: deploy some resources to make sure they're supported. 160 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an absolute tragedy and it is so incredibly 161 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: sad then to think you know of any loss of life, 162 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: but when you're thinking about a family in that vehicle, 163 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty heartbreaking. Stuff is this one of the worst 164 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: disasters that we've seen in the Northern Territory on our 165 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: roads for some time. 166 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. I think the last time we've had 167 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: multiple deaths. We had six deaths in two thousand and 168 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: seven outside of our Springs. I think it was on 169 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: It was either on Larapinta Drive or one of the 170 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: drives out there, and it was actually a result of 171 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: a persud police pursuot. We believe the occupants the vehicle 172 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: thought they were being pursued by police. The police were 173 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: in the area and the car rolled and six of 174 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: the occupants died. That was a very sad event and 175 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: impacted communities significantly as well. 176 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, now how can I ask do we have any 177 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: idea how the two people, the two drivers that were 178 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: inside the truck, how they are. 179 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: I think they went to Catherine Hospital and were treated. 180 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: You so, physically not too bad. Obviously they probably saw 181 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: I don't know the extent, but you know, psychologically would 182 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: be devastating. I mean, this is going to be with 183 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: them for the rest of their life. Like this is 184 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: knowing you know, people even driving past who see a 185 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: crash and then knowing later what the result was. That 186 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: that's going to be impacting even though they don't know 187 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: who the people are. But our thoughts with the driver 188 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: and his colleague and all the people you know, and 189 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: if they need support, you know, you've got lifeline or 190 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: people you can talk to, you know if we if 191 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: he witness or traumatic event, please ask for help. Don't 192 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: keep a bottle up inside you. And that's the work 193 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: we're doing with our first responders to make sure we 194 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: look after them too, consistently, incredibly difficult. 195 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I know that first responders often go out to terrible tragedies, 196 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: but I how are they going in light of the 197 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: fact that we now know that there are that there 198 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: were a number of kids in that car, So. 199 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to a number of them, met will 200 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: be engaging with them across like most most people. I 201 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: spoke to the major crash detective this morning. He's good. 202 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: He obviously impacts him personally because he deals with death daily, sadly, 203 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: and serious injury with crashes. We've had a number of 204 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: people who have been seriously injured that end up in 205 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: NICU that don't die. But you know the significant trauma 206 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: associated with responding to that too. But you know, the 207 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: fact is Gaddie the people who respond, community members. They've 208 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: got families, they've got kids, and that impacts upon them. 209 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: So that's the effort. We need to make sure that 210 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: they get the services and help to make sure they're 211 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: healthy and okay. But you know, like I said, I 212 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: commend them. They do the job, they're professional, they get 213 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: into it. They you know, they come to work to 214 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: make a difference and provide a service and they've done 215 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: that incredibly. But you know, when things start to slow 216 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: down and they think about it, that's when we need 217 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: to care for them. 218 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: Police Commissioner Michael Murphy, thank you very much for your 219 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: time this morning. But I do want to say massive 220 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: thank you to those first responders. I cannot imagine what 221 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: it's like going out to a tragic, tragic incident like this, 222 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: and as you've said, you know, the trauma of that 223 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: sometimes isn't felt immediately. It's something that comes down the track. 224 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: So I just want to thank them for the work 225 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: that they do. I know that, you know, there is 226 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: a lot that goes on in the community so often 227 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: that we call on the police, the fieries, ourgency services 228 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: and call on them for you know, a lot of 229 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: difficult things. But but yeah, what's going on on Friday. 230 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: I really feel for them, and I hope that everybody 231 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: is going to be okay. 232 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and me too, Katie, And I think it's really important. 233 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: Just please everyone, just take care on the roads, whether 234 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: you're a driver or you're traveling long distance or a pedestrian, 235 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: just look after each other and look after yourself. Please. 236 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for your time this morning, Commissioner. 237 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you.