1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: We heard yesterday. We certainly had a couple of people 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: get in contact with us about concerns that the Araf 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: you're a medical center in Berry Springs is closing at 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: the end of the month. Now it's leaving locals in 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: the lurch when it comes to seeing a GP. But 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: it's also a situation where I guess a bit further 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: a field, So in the likes of you know of 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Dundee people traveling from Dundee to get to the Berry 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Springs Medical Center there for the nearest sort of medical appointments. 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: Now I know that Crystal had contacted the clinic to 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: find out if that is the case in terms of 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: them closing down and really why, But joining me to 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: shed a bit more light I guess on the situation 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: is the member for Daily Duran Young. Good morning to you. 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: Good morning and good morning to your listeners. 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Katie, thanks so much for joining us now, Duran, what 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: have you heard or what have you been told about 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: the Arafia Medical Center at Berry Springs in terms of 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: them closing and the I guess the broader impact on 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: the community even in your electrash. 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: Look, I showed up to work yesterday my office is 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: straight across from the Araf You're Medical Center, and I 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: was just as shocked and disappointed as the community. I'd 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: only found out yesterday that unfortunately the Arafa Medical Center 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: had made a business decision to close their doors. So 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: I had a lot of people coming into the office 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: quite concerned about that, and it's going to have a 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: huge impact on the rural area around Berry Springs. But also, 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: as you mentioned residents from Dundee. I live at Waggaite Beach, 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: so a lot of people from Waggote Beach access that 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: clinic as well. So yeah, it was very disappointing to 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: see the closure of that. 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Duram, What were locals saying to you yesterday as I 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: was sort of starting to learn this news, I suppose. 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're coming in. 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: I think they were mainly just shocked a bit concerned 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: about where they're going to. 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: See a local GP. 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: Now they've been that they'll need to go to Humpty 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: Dew and that's another forty minutes drive on top of that, 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: and for people from Waggai and Dundee, you know that's 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: even further again for them, So you know, it's a 44 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: lot of people from the Berry Springs area Dundee Cox Peninsula. 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: They come into Berry Springs to use the shops there 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: and it's just easy access for them to just go 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: down and see the GP. 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, what other alternative options are they going to be? 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: Do you think for those in the rural area. I mean, 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: you've touched on where else they could go, but do 51 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: you look, do you think we're going to see a 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: situation where there's potentially more stress like on you know, 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: on the hospital for example, if people can't look in 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: to see a doctor. 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially. 56 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Look, our government's been working with the federal government. We 57 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: have announced that there will be two new urgent care 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: units to address the primary health care. So one of 59 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: those will be set up in Palmerston, the other one 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: in other springs. But for my region especially, that will 61 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: take a bit of the pressure off the hospital at 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: Palmerston and Darwin also some of those clinics GP specialists 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: in Humpty do But ultimately, yeah, it's not ideal that 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: we've seen the closure in Berry Springs because you know, 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: people had built a rapport with a local doctor there 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: as well, So that's a bit of a concern for 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: those patients. 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: And we are being told that it's going to be 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: about ten thousand patients that are going to be impacted 70 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: by are if you're a medical service closing down there 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: at Berry Springs. So there's no doubt it's going to 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: be a big impact for the whole region, isn't it. 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, it will be a big impact for 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: the region. But you know, it's a business decision that, 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: unfortunately are if you're a medical center made. I've already 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: sent off a letter to the Primary Health Network yesterday 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: just to address them to see what support and assistance 78 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: they can do to help with the closure of this clinic. 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: You know that the Primary Health Network they're ultimately responsible 80 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: for local GPS, and is. 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: There anything like I'm assuming that they haven't come back 82 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: to you yet, but is there anything that do you 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: think the primary Health Network could be doing in this space, 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: because you know, as we've touched on, you know, ten 85 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: thousand odd patients, but also out it you know, like 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: we've already had concerns out at Dundee that there's not 87 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: a clinic out there, or that there's not a medical 88 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: service out there. So it is a I guess it's 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: a broader issue for the region and for your. 90 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: Electros yeah, definitely, I think, you know, the primary healthcare, 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: could you do an assessment or consultation work with the 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: community to see what that primary health need is for 93 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 3: the region. So it was a bit of a shock 94 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: to see such a sudden decision made to close down 95 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: the clinic next week, and I would have liked to 96 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: have seen the primary health network out there consulting with 97 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: the community to make sure that this would have happened. 98 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: So it's it is disappointing, is really disappointing. 99 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: And I just you know, when you look at at 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, we have got an aging population, but also 101 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: when you look at the the huge surge of tourists 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: that we see out towards Dundee as well. And I 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: know that in this instance we're talking about that you 104 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: know about the GP service. So it's quite separate then 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: to like an emergency situation. But there have been calls 106 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: over the years as to whether there's maybe a clinic 107 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: sort of needed. I suppose out that way. 108 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it's it's something that. 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: You know, we need to work with the federal government 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: on and you know that's ultimately GPS are the responsibility 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: of the federal government through the primary health network so 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: for me, you know, I've spoken to Marian's office, Scrimjaw's 113 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: office as well. So I'm ultimately just you know, trying 114 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: to navigate this and work we've ever run and try 115 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: and get an outcome. 116 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: When do you reckon that you might hear back from 117 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: the primary health network? Any idea? 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: Look, I only sent the email off yesterday. Oh sorry, 119 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: the letter off to the primary health network yesterday. I 120 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: sent an email off to the Arafuial Medical Management. But 121 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: I would hope you know, pretty quickly. 122 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope. 123 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: I hope so, because like I said, there's quite a 124 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: few people in contact with us concerned. Judy had emailed 125 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: through now, she had emailed through yesterday and she said, Hi, Katie, 126 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: we live out at Dundee and we heard that the 127 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: Berry Springs Medical Center is closing as well as local 128 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: residents in the area. What impact is it going to 129 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: have on the shopping center? There is a chemist, IgA cafe, 130 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: hardware shop, and others. I mean, there's no doubt it's 131 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: going to have a bit of an impact, isn't it. Yeah? 132 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: Potentially. Look, I think. 133 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: In that regard, we do have a number of services there. 134 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: We've got a hairdressers there. We have the local IgA, 135 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: we have the hardware shot there and the cafe, so 136 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: people do naturally come there to access those services and 137 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: you have a coffee on a Saturday morning or access 138 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: the local IDA. 139 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: So I think. 140 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: I'm not sure whether we'll have a big impact or not, 141 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: but I suppose time will tell, yeah, and. 142 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: I guess as well, like it points to the fact 143 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that across the board around Australia at the moment, there 144 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: does seem to be a real shortage of GPS. It's 145 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: something we've spoken about before with Robin Carl from out 146 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: at the Palmerston GP Superclinic, and not so much the shortage, 147 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: but how we kind of entice people to come to 148 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory to become GPS. And I know that 149 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: that is more something that needs to be discussed on 150 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: a federal scale, but I just wonder whether there could 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: be more happening to try to, you know, to try 152 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: to make it more attractive to get people to move 153 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: to regional parts of Australia to either workers GPS and 154 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: in other areas where we do have skills shortages. But 155 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: it's something that I hope we're over able to overcome 156 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: at some point because it is going to have an 157 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: impact on the liveability if we're not able to get 158 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: those some of those health services you know, operating it 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: at full capacity. 160 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: I guess yeah, that's right. 161 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: And we have seen the shortages of GPS in our 162 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: regional areas right across Australia. You know, this isn't unique 163 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: to Berry Springs and we're seeing a lot of the 164 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: younger doctors. I prefer to stay in the bigger cities 165 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: and the urban areas where there's a lot more activity 166 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: down south. So for me, you know, it's about I'll 167 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: be working with the federal government. I'll be working with 168 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: the Primary Health Network, and also with the Chief Minister's Office, 169 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: which I've already speaking to her and her office and 170 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: just getting an answer from the arafire and medical management. 171 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: I believe doctor Crompton was on radio this morning as 172 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: well and he talked about those shortages of doctors and 173 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: that was a big decision on why you know they 174 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: had to shut the clinic down. 175 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Well, Daran Young, the member for Daily, we really appreciate 176 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: your time this morning. I think we've got in for 177 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: the week that was tomorrow. First time in for the 178 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: week that was. 179 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is and the first time in the studio 180 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: here i've called in before tomorrow morning. 181 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. 182 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: Thanks mate, we'll talk to you tomorrow