WEBVTT - NOVA PERIS - DANCING WITH THE STARS 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.000 TV Reload the podcast last week Their Life. 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.600 Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload, and also welcome 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.000 back to me, who has been absent for the last 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.520 week as I had shingles off the back of that 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:14.960 horrendous cold that you might have noticed that you could 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.800 hear in my voice over the last few weeks. But guys, 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:19.840 I am back and I want to thank you for 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.400 clicking and downloading on today's episode with Novi Perez, who 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.920 was one of this week's stars booted on Channel seven, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.800 which guys Dancing with the Stars. I'm absolutely loving this year. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.239 I have to say that I love Shane Crawford as 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.320 one of my favorites, and boy can Lisa mccowne really dance. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.519 It's been quite a fantastic season so far. But my 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.360 guest today is an Australian legend. As you would know, 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:48.000 Nova is an Aboriginal Australian athlete and former politician. As 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.760 a part of Australia's women's field hockey team in the 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.200 nineteen ninety six Olympic Games, she was the first Aboriginal 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.279 Australian to. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.040 Win an Olympic gold medal. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.960 We have seen her on Survivor and at the moment 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.120 she has been doing some sports commentary for the Olympic Games. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.559 What an honor it is to talk with her today. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.920 I will talk about how hard it is in the 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:13.600 rehearsals and what she really thought of Craig, her dance partner. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.360 We will find out exactly what she thought of each 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.399 judge as well, with some home truths for two of 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.720 the lineup, which I think is really going to surprise 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.840 some people. There is an opportunity to talk about where 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.880 she is commentating the Olympics and what it means to 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.120 her to still be included in the Australian coverage so 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:35.039 many years later. We will discuss the advantages each contestant 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.520 has based on their careers, and which friend group she 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.600 has found herself in with an unlikely friendship with Aunt Middleton. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.399 There's actually so much to talk about with Nova as 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.640 you can imagine, So as I said, sit back and 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.600 relax and enjoy us unpacking the wonderful world love dancing 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:52.280 with the stars. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.920 Amazing, Hi Nova, how are you good? 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:55.280 Thank you? 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.920 Am I right to say that your knee deep in 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.520 Olympic commitments at the moment. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.120 Yes, that is correct. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.960 Well, I'm here to talk about dancing with the stars. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.000 But I'm curious, am I talking to you? Are you 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.320 in Paris or are you doing your work here from Australia. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.280 No, I'm doing from Australia at the band studio p 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:12.560 at Channel nine in Melbourne. 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.040 Okay, well, we're here to talk about dancing with the stars. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:16.440 But I was just thinking, if you're in Paris, it 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.440 would be remiss of me not to harass you and 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:19.400 ask you about what it's like. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.320 Got all my family over there at the moment. So 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.600 my younger cousin's a hockey rates. Oh wow, she's prying. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.240 Well, what does it mean to you to still be 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:28.800 included in such a global event? 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.240 I mean, the Olympics is madness. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:35.280 Yeah it is, and it's just I'm sleep deprived, but 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:36.880 it's a good sleep deprivation. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.120 My stepfather he was mad for sport and international sport 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.160 because he was English, so it was funny. I don't 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:45.720 know how he ever got nothing done because he was 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.600 always up at these really odd. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.320 Times trying to watch sport when it's live. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.320 Incredible, crazy, crazy, It is crazy. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.359 But I need to ask you, how did you survive 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.120 the cyclone experience that is dancing with the stars. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.960 Yeah, it's a good experience. I know, I just not 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:05.480 made it enjoyable of having a fantastic partner Craig Munley. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:10.760 He was just such a patient teacher, a really good teacher, 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:16.040 beautiful human like that makes you experience. I guess good 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.239 if you can have a partner that is actually someone 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:20.920 that you get along with because you do spend an 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.520 incredible amount of time with them. It was five weeks 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.600 of training before the actual filming, so it was nine 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.040 weeks of your life that you're spending a lot of 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.400 time with a person you've never met before. But the 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.640 reason why I did it, I'm fifty three years old. 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:36.280 You know. 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:38.640 I'm just going to say that too. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.160 Yeah, thank you. And it was just I'm always challenging myself, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.440 so I thought, why not, all I'll go and have 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.160 a crack and it was good fun. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.480 There's something about you which I always think of when 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.240 I hear your name, is that you're someone who's kicked 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:53.120 the tire in life. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:53.760 Do you know what I mean? 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.640 You're not the sort of person who has sort of 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.960 sat back. You've really achieved some amazing things and it's why. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.200 You pity the judges didn't. 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.400 We've got to work on bribery. I think that's what you. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:11.480 Need, you know what. It's funny. I just it's subjective, 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.520 isn't it. The judging of it, it's incredible. It's not 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:20.160 like the Dancing with the Stars is puer entertainment where 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:25.160 I come from a pure performance based life where you 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.239 have to you train and train and train. You don't 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.000 care what you look like. You need to just get 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.760 out and get the job done. And so it's just 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.400 a totally different aspect of you know, dancing with the stars, 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:42.680 but you know, throwing yourself and I Middleton and I 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.360 had this conversation and I think it was the night 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.080 that I got punted out that we make ourselves vulnerable. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:53.240 We're not in the entertainment industry like Shane and Being 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:57.360 you know, they're retired and they're spots and Middleton and myself, 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.120 you make yourself vulnerable. You put yourself in a totally 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.720 different feel of something you'd never think about doing in 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.520 your lifetime. And I have no dance background. The only 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.160 time you'd see me dancing is Buddy on a bar 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.200 when we's won World Cup for an Olympic gold medal 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.640 and it's the celebration after us. So to be in 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.920 that you do make yourself. I know, it's interesting the 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.599 judging of the you know, all subjective, how their eyes 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.719 see something, which is like, oh my god, I have 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.680 no dance background. You know, don't look at your partner, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.960 don't smile, turn your head this one. I'm like, why 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.719 you look at your part knowing your body dance and. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.039 You know, yeah, everything you instinctively feel like, you know, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.200 you kind of have to throw out the window, which 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.839 I think is which is interesting. But you know, you 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.320 bring something up which I thought was quite fascinating. I mean, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.240 I've been talking this season to a number of the 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.760 stars about advantages. I mean, you're an Olympic gold medalist. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.479 I wondered whether being a sports star had given you 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.520 an advantage because I can now see being an actor 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.640 can help Lisa McCune and I can see how being 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.159 a sea. What are your thoughts, What do you think 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.400 is the biggest advantage going this season if you are 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:05.719 a star taking it on. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:11.360 I think the training aspect, the fitness I didn't struggle 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.360 with like in twenty what year in our twenty twenty 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.320 two twenty twenty three, I've done back to back Kakoda 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.800 track and they're doing the Kakoda track is one of 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.640 the most physically hardest thing I've ever done in my life. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.239 It's mental, spirit, it's all of that. So being able 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:33.159 to push myself, I can do that. That's not even 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.719 an option. So there were some of the days, you know, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.159 for five weeks of training there with your partner from 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.520 eight eight thirty in the morning, you finish at between 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.839 four and five in the afternoon. And on my right knee, 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.560 I don't know if you notice my dance last night, 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.119 I had it strapped. So I struck my legs every 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.480 single day. And I don't have any cartilage left in 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.960 my right knee none at all. Wow, God, So it's 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.599 bone on bone. Art writers. I've had our frost. My 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.479 left one was not that much better. And I just 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.440 thought to myself that if some things in life you 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.080 just got to do because you'll never get another chance 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.280 to do. And I said, ask stuff, but I'll I'll 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.720 just go and do it and I'll grind away. And 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.120 so every if it wasn't every day, every second that 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.680 I was having ice baff, I was knocking back to 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:24.640 celebrates and the anti inflammatory and I got through and 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.000 you know, yeah, I had I had fun. And the 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:32.800 thing is having done Survivor before where everyone wants to 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.800 basically stab each other in the back and light your face. Yeah, 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.960 coming in and doing you know, Dancing with the Stars 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.440 with everyone, all the celebrities, we all cheered each other 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.239 on and all got along like a house on fire. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.520 There was we all. We all became a twenty twenty 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.000 four Dancing with the Stars family, and it was it 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.520 was fun in that aspect, you know, there's that was 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.920 a nice thing to be able to walk away from 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:02.160 a really reality TV show and say, gosh, wasn't that fun? 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:02.720 Yeah? 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.960 To have that, But you know that doesn't happen every year, 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.760 right because this season and you know, I've got my 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.520 finger on the pulse when it comes to what goes 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.680 on behind the scenes of these shows. And everything I 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.559 kept hearing back from this was how well this cast 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.440 connected and the friendship was very genuine and you were 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.280 all very supportive, and that isn't what happens every year. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.120 There's sometimes people that you know, take it too seriously, 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.840 and you've got some people there that are obviously taking 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.760 this very seriously. But isn't it nice that our Australian 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.640 sportsmanship comes out and that you can still get along 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:32.800 off the dance floor. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:33.320 Yeah? 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.280 I think so, And maybe I don't know. I mean, 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.839 you know, Shane Ben, myself and us sort of for 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.480 we could say, where the sporty? So we had that 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.120 high level of respect for each other. And then you 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:53.640 look at you know, Aiden Hayden and Jans and well, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:58.480 I guess surely all the rest of them. They're all entertainers. Yeah, 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.360 they're all entertainers in different field. So there was no 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.680 need to be envious of the other person. So I 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.240 got to feel we are all successful within our own right, 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.080 you know. And you know even Nadia, you know she's 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.560 I thought she did incredible within herself and you know, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:22.040 her own fashion design. So we're all high achieving people. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:26.040 And Nikki Osborne. I got close to Nikki. She was 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.000 absolutely hysterical. She sort of you know, kept the humor 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.040 going with all of us. And yeah, we had fun 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.760 and like I said, there was no reason for anyone 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.240 to sort of be disgrunted with anyone. We all got 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.600 along really well and had some really good fun times. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.040 It's funny because this competition is about physical and that's 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.280 what we think of first. But I also think about 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.040 you talking about the mental side of this as well, 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.079 and I think your pedigree with your background is actually 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.200 quite good for dancing with this. Does not you have 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.360 got that sports side, but also having the politicians, which 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.680 is also mentally quite challenging. I think the combination of 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.440 those two would work for you. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:12.400 Yeah, Like I sort of feel it's funny because you 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:18.000 have to entertain and have the facial expressions. People like 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:22.439 your Samantha Jay you know, you lease the me cus 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:26.360 and and you know, even Nicky they can do the 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.280 facial expressions and all that sort of stuff, and they 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.800 knew where the camera was, you know, even like James 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.880 Stewart performing, you know, as an entertainer, you know where 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.000 they look for the cameras. And I was like just 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.640 trying to remember the dance steps. 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:44.920 I could see that in you. I like that though. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:50.440 And it's funny because the countdown to the song starts 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.680 to go. It does like a little four beats that 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.720 go into and then you just think, oh, ship, here 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.440 we go, and you don't you do. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.720 Something if you jump it up, it's just do it 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.800 straight on and It's one of those things you've just 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.439 got to, you know, try and best and nail a 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.000 nail your performances. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.679 And yeah, like I said, it was all foreign, but 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.160 you just have to embrace it. And you know, my 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:20.840 heart rate if I had. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.480 A worn to wash when I was sitting up on. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.560 That fricking shoe and that dance, my heart rate would 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.560 have been one twenty one thirty sitting on my backslide 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:33.760 on a big bloody shoe. So, yes, the nerves get 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.400 to you, and yes, the you know, the breath. And 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.640 it was funny because even that first dance I get. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:43.280 I think it was telling Richard, oh, you look so nervous, 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.920 and I was thinking to myself because honey, you wouldn't 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.760 have it through what nervous was look like when you 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.719 line up in a bloody in the final, I was 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.200 just like hit myself, thinking, am I going to stuff 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.920 a step up? It's like game day? And then you 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.640 have for me is the game place that was? I 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.360 took it seriously, you know. And then when you're the 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.400 jive and the I just sang the whole way and 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.320 even my kids like, mom, you were just singing the 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:16.040 whole time. I said, Yes, made me bloody. 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:16.120 Of a lot. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:17.080 I loved it. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.960 I love watching you being able to sing along with 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.160 it because that made it look like you were having fun. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.840 I mean, you definitely had the look sometimes because I 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.720 could see myself in you. I was like, if that 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.319 was me, that's how I would look, you know, I 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.720 would I would be looking around because you're a little 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.360 bit like a deer in a headlights at some point, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.560 because you really are putting yourself, you know, you're really 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.560 putting yourself out there. I thought that Julia Goodwin's admission 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.319 in last night's episode was really quite telling as well, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.040 where she talked about saying, you know, she said that 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.080 she believes things about herself that she didn't believe before. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.840 I think these shows can teach us things that are 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.240 quite out of the box, like something that wouldn't happen 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.080 to you if you wouldn't have said yes to this show. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:55.360 Did you walk away with. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.120 A similar feeling like this show had taught you something 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.800 that you may not have known before. 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:05.320 Yeah, I think so. Like well, to begin with, when 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.600 you're learning the steps and I have all this video 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:14.120 with Craig was videoing from the very first to the last, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.319 It's like Wow, to actually think that I could remember it, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.320 and what it does is like going back to sports. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.920 So even when at the Olympics, you've become a creature 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.559 of habit, right, And when I played an Olympics in 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.880 ninety six, our philosophy was game plan would keep it simple, 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.040 stupid because you do all the training and then you 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:40.680 become reactive in a game and all your drills and everything. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.559 You've trained hours and hours and years and you've dreamt 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.920 of that moment and it's a weird thing. Even like 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.040 a Dancing with the Stars. Craig would say to me, 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.160 if you just keep practicing going over and going over, 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:58.400 and you know, we fit in five weeks, you actually 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:03.520 end up learning five dancers or six dancers, thinking that 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.400 everyone set the chance to get to the finals. So 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.080 it's not like you just practiced the one for two 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.720 or three weeks. You're practicing multiple dances. And there was 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.120 even one day, I think it was the week before 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.280 we started, Craig said let's do this dance. I just 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.440 looked at him and said, I can't even remember that, 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:25.760 and he goes, I've been doing for I can't remember it. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.560 And I did show the sheet and he just wo 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:29.880 was Oh that dashing. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.640 I'm overwhelmed talking to you about this today. I don't 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.240 think the average person can put that much information into 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.600 their brains to remember it. I'd have PTSD if I 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.640 ever saw Craig again, you know, just as much as 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.960 you loved working with him in his training, as soon 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:47.680 as you'd see this man, I'd be like, I'll get 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:48.360 him away from me. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:49.280 That's too much. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:49.960 Yeah. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.360 And it was like that. And some days, are you 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:58.520 all right? And my brains, athletic brain was on frick 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.680 and hurting, but I'm not. I'm going to tell you 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.760 I'm hurting. I'm going to say, yes, we've got two 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.240 more hours to go. So it was like you just 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.600 you kept pushing. And even though for Julie, you know, 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.280 she's spent her you know, she's she's got her own 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.160 story and she's got a book out this year, and 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:20.120 and like for her to do something that is so 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.960 totally foreign, you know, it's and people don't realize. It's 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.760 easy for people to just get online say oh you 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.840 are terrible and whatever. I'm like, this isn't our thing, 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.040 you know, Like ID even watched the show last night. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.680 I'm telling you the true I haven't watched it because 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.720 I'm getting my head around to the athletics, which I 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:43.320 publitate at four thirty in the morning, you know, So 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.960 it's it's a part of your life that's come and gone, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.720 and yes, I'll catch up with it, but I you know, 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.800 I had my mum and everyone really meet you so 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.840 that they loved it and all the rest of it. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.520 So what do you think about the judges, because I 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.720 think they've got a tough job because, you know, not 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.040 only they get to give you sound advice, but they 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.560 also need to be entertaining because it's a TV show. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.560 So do you think sometimes they can go too far 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.000 with some of the negative criticisms. I mean, we know 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.360 it's for entertainment, but how do you how do you 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.160 feel in those moments? 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:19.280 You know? I think what I take away is Shanna 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:25.240 she gave good sound advice how to hold certain things, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.160 but she was like, great, that was great. I really 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.760 enjoyed it. I could see, you know, that wasn't an 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:35.440 easy thing to do. I thought Mark Wilson, he was great. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:42.800 I appreciated that he reminded people of my achievements beyond 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.640 dancing with the stuff, which was nice. Yeah, And then 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:54.400 you know, I think Helen was inconsistent with her critiquing. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.200 It was very inconsistent that I'll leave it at that. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:03.920 And then with Craig, if it's meant to be funny, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.359 work on your funny joke. You know, there's a line 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.719 in the sand which you have to draw between. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:15.640 Okay, I'm going to critique you about this, but then 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:19.520 there's a line in the sand how you can describe 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:20.879 things for a woman. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.239 I think that becomes where it's hard because you know, 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.280 if it was just them giving you really positive critiques, 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.200 I don't know if this show works, you know, globally 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.520 where if you watch this show, whether it's you know, 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.879 Strictly Dancing or wherever it's played, or America's you know, 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.320 Dancing with the Stars, you know, there needs to be 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.240 these sort of polarizing comments. And I don't think that 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.200 he is genuinely trying to upset you. I think he's 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.760 got a mark that he has to hit, which is 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.320 a dangerous ground. It's a dangerous ground to play in 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.240 because he can leave himself open in moments like that. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.560 But I just think it's hard to facilitate that role, 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:01.040 and you know that would be challenging in it in itself. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:04.359 Yeah, but there's ways of means of getting a message across, 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.639 like this isn't a thing, and you know, we all 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:12.600 open ourselves up to vulnerability. But even like the critiquing 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:18.720 of my stuff from it never changed in anything, like 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.359 the judges, Oh this is your best dance or whatever, 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.119 the score has never changed. Oh you're improving, Well, the 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.400 score's never changed. I stayed on fucking nineteen all three dances. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:34.800 So you know, there's inconsistency. Everyone improved except for me, 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.480 and I actually thought I improved as I went on. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:41.399 So I was inconsistent life with that. And I feel 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:46.760 like with Craig Revel whatever his name is, So the 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.400 critiquing from that wasn't okay. You know, when I did 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.840 a slip, do you know how long it took Craig, 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.240 my partner, to convince me to have a go at that. 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.800 Yeah, I can imagine. I can imagine I wouldn't have 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:00.199 done you. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:04.199 Know, I know, and just you know, like even like, 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.240 for example, my leg who have taken me for thirteen 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:13.240 years of representing this country on the international stage, I 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:18.440 can't straighten my leak. So and as a track athlete, 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.200 finding one track athlete that does not have a kink 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.399 in their leak because printers, that's our body like that. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.960 So you're being judged all the legs are straight. Well, 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.600 fucking my legs don't go straight. Period. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.200 I don't meant to laugh, but it's you know, it's 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.400 you're making a valid point. No, I think you're making 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.240 a valid point, and I totally see where you're coming from, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.800 and I think that that's where it's a bit of 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.359 a gray area because the show, the magic of the 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.359 show is about getting people that don't know how to 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.840 dance to dance like it's it's the magic of this 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.440 show is getting to see people that you know are 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:56.040 recognizable faces and then seeing what they can do and 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:56.720 how they can. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:58.639 Dance, which is something completely out of box for that. 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.080 I mean, I could talk to you about this all day, 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.200 and I just think you were so fantastic on this show, 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:06.840 and I wish I did have more time to sort 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.000 of unpack this, but look, you took this competition on 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.159 and it was fantastic to watch, which, at the end 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.200 of the day is the true magic of this show. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:15.000 So thank you. 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:16.320 I'm glad you enjoyed it. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.119 I've got to ask you my last question just is 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.040 what is something from behind the scenes, something that we 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.159 didn't get a chance to see. What's your behind the 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.760 scene secret for doing Dancing with the Stars, because I 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.080 asked that question for everyone who joins the podcast. 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:28.040 Secret. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.679