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Speaker 1: This is jam nation. We're jes.

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Speaker 2: How sicky I am about my sons and how neither

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Speaker 2: of neither of them live at home anymore. They're both

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Speaker 2: living on various campuses, limbs in Newcastle. Jack is at

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Speaker 2: Sydney UNI, but he's living on campus.

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Speaker 3: He is living the dream. He's that kid is a great.

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Speaker 2: Gatsby, Aren't they lucky ducks? And part of the emotion

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Speaker 2: for me is I've had to fall well them. No,

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Speaker 2: you know, if we're talking about it makes me no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to go the blood. But part of

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Speaker 2: it is my my and jealousy is too hard a word.

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Speaker 2: My envy, just the fact that they're living these amazing

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Speaker 2: years and that it took me straight back to when

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Speaker 2: I left home to study at UNI.

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Speaker 4: And they're wonderful, wonderful years. And at the time, you

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Speaker 4: know they're great.

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Speaker 2: But having said that, there's heartbreak, there's Uni work, there's

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Speaker 2: all of this. But when our lives, when we become

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Speaker 2: adults and we have all these responsibilities, we look back

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Speaker 2: at those years and think, weren't they amazing? So I

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Speaker 2: want my kids to eke every moment out of it,

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Speaker 2: even though that means they don't live with me, and

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Speaker 2: I find that really hard. And I saw a TikTok yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and there's dumb stuff on TikTok, but I saw this guy.

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Speaker 4: He saynds like a brash American.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but he titled this something I wish

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Speaker 2: I'd heard when I was in high school. And I

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Speaker 2: sent this to both boys yesterday.

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Speaker 5: You're worried about something, Call your mom. You didn't do

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Speaker 5: your homework. Call your mom's got a big test coming up.

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Speaker 1: Call your mom.

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Speaker 5: Got in trouble, You need someone to come pick you up.

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Speaker 3: Call your mom. It's three am.

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Speaker 5: Call your mom.

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Speaker 3: That word mom.

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Speaker 5: Right when there's a problem, you call her that word mom.

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Speaker 5: When you just say it right, you know everything's gonna

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Speaker 5: be okay. That's the gift you have in your life.

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Speaker 5: Don't waste that gift. That's the gift that's going to

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Speaker 5: get you to places you never thought you can go.

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Speaker 5: There's a vision that your mom has of you, and

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Speaker 5: she can see it. She's given that before you're given that,

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Speaker 5: and it's her job to show you that way. It's

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Speaker 5: her job to tell you that vision. That's why your

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Speaker 5: mom keeps calling you. That's why your mom keeps reminding

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Speaker 5: you that's why your mom believes in you, because she

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Speaker 5: can see everything you're about to do.

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Speaker 4: Take it seriously, it's serious.

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Speaker 1: Your mom loves you. Follow her lead.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 4: I sent that to both boys yesterday.

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Speaker 3: We that is a sweet, sweet thing, and it's not

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Speaker 3: about calling your dad.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's interesting, none of them got back

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 3: Boys.

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Speaker 2: I reckon what happened because the moral of that for

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Speaker 2: me and made me think about my mom and how

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Speaker 2: I don't have my mom anymore for all that stuff,

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Speaker 2: and the word mom just says it, doesn't it. But

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Speaker 2: also I reckon the boy's probably heard call your mom,

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Speaker 2: call your mom and thought I was nagging them without

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Speaker 2: getting to the end of that story, which is here's

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Speaker 2: why she loves you so much.

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Speaker 3: I know those boys very well.

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Speaker 6: Jack in particular, if there's an issue, he will no

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Speaker 6: doubt call you.

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Speaker 3: Oh he wills.

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Speaker 4: I just wish it was every half hour, three in

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Speaker 4: the morning. Yeah, well that bit they can ignore.

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Speaker 6: So if my sons would like to get back to

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Speaker 6: me anytime now, you're using this platform.

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Speaker 4: Smoke signal this afternoon.

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Speaker 6: For God's sake, boys, call your mother. Plenty of people

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Speaker 6: are calling in by the way before I get stuck

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Speaker 6: into this scammer rant about that bit you put on

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Speaker 6: the air from that TikToker.

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Speaker 4: You're worried about something again to make me cry again.

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Speaker 1: You didn't do your homework.

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Speaker 5: Call your mom.

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Speaker 3: Got a big cast coming up?

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Speaker 1: Call your mom.

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Speaker 5: Got in trouble, You need someone to come pick you up.

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Speaker 3: Call your mom.

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Speaker 1: It's three am. Call your mom.

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Speaker 3: Well, don't call me a three am.

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Speaker 2: But it goes on to say your mother, it's not

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Speaker 2: a naggy thing. It is your mother has a sense

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Speaker 2: of you, and that's why she loves you. She sees

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Speaker 2: where you're going and that's why she loves you. So

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Speaker 2: it's not a nagging thing for your mom.

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Speaker 3: And you sent this to your sons, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: They haven't responded. I send it yesterday, so it's obviously

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Speaker 2: touched an incredible nerve.

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Speaker 3: Well, mum, so calling Catherine's in Castle Hill? I like, Catherine, Hi,

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Speaker 3: jamesy tell are you very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Did that speak to you? Catherine?

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Speaker 1: Andrew? I'm not happy with you destroying I was fine

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Speaker 1: until you say that's top video. And I actually dropped

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Speaker 1: my twenty one year old daughter to the bus stop.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't live at home, but she comes home twice

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Speaker 1: a week. And you know that's on between a mum

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Speaker 1: and either a daughter or any son. Who's so special.

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's like when you go out, if

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Speaker 1: you get into troubles, please call me. I know you'll

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Speaker 1: be fine. It's not you. I don't trustee everyone else.

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Speaker 1: And you know you just the phone stays on. You

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Speaker 1: know when she's out, the tractor is on. Even though

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Speaker 1: she's old enough to look after herself. And you know,

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Speaker 1: my mum, even though she's seventy nine. If you tell

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Speaker 1: her I'm out, please call me. I'll come and pick

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Speaker 1: you up. No thanks, Mom, I'm not driving with you.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. That bond is so special.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: And the video was titled something I wish I'd heard

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Speaker 2: when I was in high school. I missed my mom

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Speaker 2: all the time, and I wish I wish I'd said

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Speaker 2: this to her.

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Speaker 4: I wish I'd known why she nagged me. I wish

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Speaker 4: I'd known.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's so important and you don't realize that. And

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Speaker 1: you know we're not nagging. We just here. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to have to see my car for

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Speaker 1: another ten minutes before I walk.

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Speaker 3: Into work to get yourself in order.

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Speaker 6: But Catherine, so your mother, who's seventy nine, if you

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Speaker 6: rang her at three o'clock in the morning, she'd come

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Speaker 6: and pick you up.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely think that I will. She'd be very annoyed, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I get her talking to as though I

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Speaker 1: was like sixteen again. However, Dad, who's got dementia as well,

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Speaker 1: he would quite happily get in the car. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where he'd end up, but you know he'd find

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Speaker 1: me and he'd come and pick me up. That the

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Speaker 1: bond between parents and kids is from. And you know,

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Speaker 1: even when she comes home at night, we all sit

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Speaker 1: down for a family dinner and it's a two hour

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Speaker 1: conversation and things like that. And that's just so important

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Speaker 1: because you just can't get that back again.

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Speaker 4: But isn't it interesting, Catherine.

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Speaker 2: When your children are little, there's an obvious way they

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Speaker 2: need you. But as they get older, I find I

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Speaker 2: need them more. But that is a and that's the

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Speaker 2: stuff that no one tells you about, is it. They're

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Speaker 2: never off your hands in I never want them to

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Speaker 2: be off my hands. It just the relationship shifts, but

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Speaker 2: it's still so it's still so important.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it exactly? But you've still got to remain a

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Speaker 1: parent that you want to be the best friends and

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Speaker 1: you know it's hard, but it's a fabulous opportunity. And

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Speaker 1: you know we're just so lucky to be given that

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Speaker 1: that valuable time and be grateful that we've been able

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Speaker 1: to have kids that enjoy them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you and your boys. They still need you, Amanda.

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Speaker 3: They need that credit card.

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Speaker 4: Oh thanks mister sin that my tears.

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Speaker 3: They need that dough, they need that scratch from mum.

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Speaker 4: Do you have a heart.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: I have a giant very close to your children. Don't

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Speaker 3: bring close to my children. I'm very close to my children.

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Speaker 6: Dads feel it too, of course, of course, it's like

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Speaker 6: dads and mums are two different things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're probably right.

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Speaker 6: And we're not as sentimental as as you like. We

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Speaker 6: don't show it outwardly, but yeah, I'm very settlemented.

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Speaker 4: Of course, of course you and you're sentimental towards my mind.

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Speaker 6: Remember when my almost thirty year old years ago, for

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Speaker 6: his eighteenth birthda, I got him my mobile phone and

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Speaker 6: he rang me at two in the morning. It's somewhere

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Speaker 6: and I've just looked at my phones. Two in the morning.

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Speaker 6: I just see Morgan on the phone. I'm going, what's hello, Dad, Dad,

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Speaker 6: you won't believe it. I've lost my phone, went okay,

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Speaker 6: and then I didn't even triger it. I'm going, and

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Speaker 6: he's crying. Man, I'm so sorry. You're such a good dad.

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Speaker 6: You bought me a phone and on my eighteenth birthday

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Speaker 6: I've lost. And I said, well, mate, look it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 6: We'll get you another phone and all work out.

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Speaker 3: Where are you So I don't know. I said, we'll

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Speaker 3: get in a cab and then when you get here,

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Speaker 3: we'll fix up the cab and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: And then he's going on with this big thing.

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Speaker 6: So I've held the phone away and I've looked, and

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Speaker 6: I've just seen Morgan on my phone. I said, mate,

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Speaker 6: what are you actually talking into? Dad?

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Speaker 3: You found my phone.

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Speaker 2: You found my phone, see, but you were ready to

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Speaker 2: say I'm here.

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Speaker 4: Of course we would, we all would