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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, good morning and to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, I am just going to run everybody through the

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Speaker 3: Good morning as they Good morning to listeners, and thank

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Speaker 1: That's your two minutes Eva, Thank you very much. Now, Leafanokio,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, because the CLP has the experienced team

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Speaker 3: Sixty five percent of people in our prisons are there

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Speaker 1: All Right'm over to you, Leah, and the same question,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, US break ins are up one hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: We have the solutions we need to stop. We need

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Speaker 2: So not only are we lowering the age of criminal

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Speaker 2: Week one of Parliament strengthening a range of laws to

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Speaker 2: we've got worsening numbers of kids going to school. By

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Speaker 1: All right. Now, it's not just crime that's a major concern,

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Speaker 1: EVA, how will you manage alcohol issues? Will you review

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Speaker 3: So first of all, Katie, as I said, anything around

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move along to corrections because based on

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Speaker 3: So we already have a plan around prison numbers, Katie,

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Speaker 3: I think a substantial number. We've already doing the work

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Speaker 2: We really don't support the closing down of voluntary our

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Speaker 2: Yes, there, we are very focused on a strong public

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Speaker 2: a three different homeowner grants for people, including citizens and

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Speaker 2: permanent residents. We want people building a life in the

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Speaker 2: territory and securing people through home ownership is one way

436
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Speaker 2: to achieve that. So there cannot be austerity. We must

437
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Speaker 2: spend properly though and not be wasteful.

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Speaker 1: Eva, how can you bring down the level of debt

439
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Speaker 1: we're in when it has grown under your watch as Treasurer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very proud of being Treasurer of the Northern

441
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Speaker 3: Territory and that's what you get with me as chief

442
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Speaker 3: Minister and experienced, a very experienced minister. But Katie, I

443
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: think one that we can be very proud of as

444
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: well is the ento oil and gas industry. We've taken

445
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Speaker 3: an industry from the start to being able to having

446
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: that up and running seventeen billion dollars towards our economy.

447
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 3: So that's that's what you get with the Labor government,

448
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: a government that can deliver a brand new industry in

449
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Speaker 3: the Northern Territory. Defense is worth about six point two

450
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: billion to the Northern Territory as well. The Barossa Project

451
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Speaker 3: another six billion dollars. So that's what you get with labor.

452
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Speaker 3: We're delivering on driving the economy in the Northern Territory.

453
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: GSP is up about two point three percent. It's going

454
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Speaker 3: to be seven point one percent. Lea talks about population

455
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Speaker 3: and people leaving our population and is actually going up

456
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Speaker 3: one percent, So that's a large number of migrants coming

457
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Speaker 3: into the territory. So you know it's misinformation that's coming

458
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Speaker 3: from Lea. Lea's also talking about payroll tax cutting. Payroll

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Speaker 3: tax means is a fifty two million dollar hole over

460
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Speaker 3: the forward estimates to the Northern Territory. So what is

461
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Speaker 3: Lea going to cut. She's going to have to cut

462
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Speaker 3: something for that fifty two million. I am absolutely sure

463
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Speaker 3: that she will cut public servants, she will cut CEOs,

464
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Speaker 3: she'll sack CEOs. She's talking about this coordinator position. That's

465
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Speaker 3: your job as chief minister. That's my job as chief minister.

466
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Speaker 1: I drive.

467
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Speaker 3: I have the territory. I have territory in the Infrastructure Commissioner,

468
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Speaker 3: the Major Projects Commissioner, and also investment territory. But as

469
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Speaker 3: Chief Minister, that's your role to be the coordinator to

470
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Speaker 3: drive the economy in the Northern Territory, to drive those

471
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Speaker 3: projects in the Northern Territory. Again, simplistic responses around approval

472
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 3: times there are of course in the territory. There has

473
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Speaker 3: to be strong, strong rules, strong legislation, strong boundaries around

474
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Speaker 3: the environment in the Northern Territory. That's what you need

475
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Speaker 3: to do. You need to be able to take territories

476
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Speaker 3: with you. You need to have the social license around environmental approvals.

477
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Speaker 3: You need to be able to do those things. You

478
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Speaker 3: can't just throw those things out.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're going to stay on the economy. And

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Speaker 1: it does seem as though this is a point of

481
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Speaker 1: contention really or a point of difference between the two parties.

482
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Speaker 1: But after years of lagging in comsept reports, with the

483
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Speaker 1: territory economy in some instances ranking dead last in some

484
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: key economic measures including housing, finance, construction and unemployment, many

485
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Speaker 1: are wondering what is going to be done to really

486
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Speaker 1: get the economy moving again. Eva. I know you've just

487
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Speaker 1: touched on some of what the government is doing, but

488
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Speaker 1: some argue that the government has really not been able

489
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Speaker 1: to get a major project off the ground. Is gas

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Speaker 1: the answer.

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, I mean again, we know the story on Comsec.

492
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Speaker 3: It's an average over ten years. So when we get

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Speaker 3: to twenty twenty eight, the big boom that we saw

494
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: with IMPEX, that will pass through. But our economy, we

495
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: have spent eleven we've delivered and spent eleven billion dollars

496
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Speaker 3: of infrastructure. So that's eleven billion dollars of cash that's

497
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: gone out to the door to support our civil contractors.

498
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Speaker 3: So whether that's road, whether that's the Parmesan Hospital, Parmesan

499
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Speaker 3: Police station, the new schools in Parmesan. Our government, particularly

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Speaker 3: after Impacts, after the Impacts boom, our government kept the

501
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Speaker 3: territory moving by all all our investment in civil contracts

502
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Speaker 3: across the northern territory, twenty two hundred kilometers of Bitchman

503
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Speaker 3: roads that we've delivered. I'm really proud of the work

504
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 3: that we've done. But we've got another four point four

505
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Speaker 3: billion dollars of infrastructure in our forward estimates as well.

506
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Speaker 3: So that's what you'll get with the Labor government, a

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00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: government that continues to push the territory forward, doing that

508
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: enabling infrastructure that you need, so continuing to build roads

509
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: that are needed for industry. So yes on toil and

510
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: gas industry is one. As I said, we'll get to FID.

511
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Speaker 3: We've got a a fewer resources, which again we saw

512
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Speaker 3: the COP the federal also the Federal Liberal National Party

513
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Speaker 3: not support that investment into ARA. A fewer resources er,

514
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Speaker 3: a fewer resources will be a game changer for that

515
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: southern region, particularly for the town of Ala Springs. So

516
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Speaker 3: that's what we do. We will continue to invest in industries,

517
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: new industries, but you still have to have the underpinning

518
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: ones such as defense. Six point two billion dollars in defense, tourism.

519
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: We just recently put another eighteen million dollars into tourism,

520
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: building those roads that support our pastoral industry, so the

521
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: Carpenteria Highway, the Tanami Highway, the Plenty Highway, for example.

522
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Speaker 3: So you have to continue to support the industries that

523
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Speaker 3: you have, but grow new industries. And there are really

524
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Speaker 3: exciting industries on the horizon. The Data Center next DC.

525
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Speaker 3: As you come up Gary Milla Boulevard, you can see

526
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Speaker 3: that data center that's just about reaching completion. Hydrogen another

527
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: really exciting project for Middle arm.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Eva, Leah, how are you going to turn

529
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Speaker 1: things around?

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Speaker 2: Well, we know that what we're doing now isn't working.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise our economy would be growing. We've seen GSP going backwards,

532
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: private sector confidences at all time lows, master builders and

533
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: other economists have come out and said that we're on

534
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: track to build the lowest number of homes in the

535
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Speaker 2: territory since records began. And when you go out and

536
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: you talk to people in businesses out in Winnelly or

537
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: Bearrima tradees, you know they're really unsure where the next

538
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: lot of work is coming from.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: We've had plenty of promises and plenty of talk about

541
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Speaker 2: plenty of projects, but the rubber hasn't hit the road.

542
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Speaker 2: Or what labor doesn't understand is that this continual talk

543
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: without the actual delivery is actually demoralizing our community. The

544
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: numbers speak for itself of people moving into state because

545
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: they don't see the opportunities here anymore. Crime is actually

546
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: shutting down businesses and again forcing people to leave. So

547
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: to do business here, it's very hard. Insurance is through

548
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: the roof that inability to attract staff because people don't

549
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: want to come here. Tourism is at all time lows

550
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: again due to flight prices and crime. So we've got

551
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: some serious issues at hand, which is why you know,

552
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: and labor can scoff at this, but it doesn't bother

553
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: us at all. We are really focused on changing the

554
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: way we do things in the territory. Again with labor

555
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: nineteen of the last twenty three years, Why on earth

556
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: would we continue to keep going with these same policies

557
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: and programs. We've got to do things differently, and so

558
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: we are very focused on unlocking our economic opportunities. Our

559
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: five key folks this area is a mining, gas, tourism, agriculture,

560
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: and defense. We've got to get back to basics and

561
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: really fundamentally understand our strength as a territory and really

562
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: lean into those and support those industries to grow. They

563
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: will create jobs and opportunities. And I always talk about

564
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: the territory being having everything that this country needs everything.

565
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Speaker 2: And part of our plan includes having a Minister for

566
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Speaker 2: Asian Engagement and Trade because our nearest neighbors are just

567
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: an hour or so away, and we need to be

568
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: making sure that we have the strongest possible social and

569
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Speaker 2: trade relationships into Asia.

570
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk cost of living. The cost of

571
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Speaker 1: living is having an enormous impact on so many Territorians

572
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: who are juggling mortgages or rent, food costs, high petrol

573
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Speaker 1: prices just to name a few. Leah, what will a

574
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Speaker 1: colp lead government do to lower the cost of living?

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Speaker 2: It is crippling territory. Its heartbreaking. I was door knocking

576
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: yesterday and spoke to a lady who works at a bank,

577
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Speaker 2: and she said it is just heartbreaking work at the

578
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: moment moment for them, what they see the struggle people have,

579
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: and we recognize that. So our cost of living relief

580
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: measures on top of growing the economy and tackling crime,

581
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Speaker 2: because crime is adding to cost of living when you're

582
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: paying more for security as a shop, that's going on

583
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: your product that you purchase in that shop. So we've

584
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: also said there'll be free men ninjacockle b vaccine. These

585
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: are normally hundreds and hundreds of dollars for young families

586
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: wanting to protect their babies from this deadly disease. We've

587
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: also frozen We would also freeze motor vehicle regio prices

588
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: at last year's prices so that they're not increasing. Also

589
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: free drivers' licenses for territorians and three year trailer registration.

590
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: We want people spending more time enjoying their life than

591
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: standing at the mvrkdie. We've also very, very focused on

592
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: making sure that through our home builder scheme, which is

593
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars for first home builders, ten thousand for

594
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: first home buyers, and thirty thousand for anyone who wants

595
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: to build a new home. That's going to help people

596
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: get into that home ownership By expanding what pharmacies can do.

597
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: There are twenty one very common conditions that a pharmacist

598
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: can safely consult on and administer a medication for that

599
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: will make it cheaper and quicker for territory and saving

600
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: them time and money instead of having to fork out

601
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: eighty bucks or more at the GP. So these are

602
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: some of the ways in which we can make people's

603
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: life easier, safer, quicker to deal with the things they

604
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: need to deal with, and of course cheaper because cost

605
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: of living is really hurting people, and ultimately we need

606
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: to strengthen our economy so people have the good jobs,

607
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: the good opportunity, drive down crime, to drive down the

608
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: impact of ever increasing insurance, and that pass on effect

609
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: of the cost of repairing broken windows, paying excessive amounts

610
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: for security, buying bollards, buying mesh, buying roller doors. That

611
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: all ends up on the product price.

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00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: EVA. What will the government lead by you do to

613
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: lower the cost of living?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Katie, And it's that we all already do.

615
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: We all understand how tough it's been around the cost

616
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: of living, and we'd love to see interest rates go

617
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: down before the end of the year. We have seen

618
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: them go up again, which is a concerning to me

619
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 3: as treasure in the Northern Territory. But some of the

620
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: leavers that we can pull we have already done and

621
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Speaker 3: will continue to do that work, so particularly around the

622
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: cost of power in the Northern Territory. So the Community

623
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: Service obligation we subsidize the Northern Territory government subsidized pretty

624
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: much everybody's power by over one thousand dollars in the

625
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: Northern Territory. The Federal government gave three hundred dollars also,

626
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: which is good to see to all well to all

627
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: Australians around that. So we'll continue to work to keep

628
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: our power prices down. There was a good announcement yesterday

629
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Speaker 3: where we're working with the Federal government around the opportunities

630
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: for people in apartments. So eighteen percent of Territorians live

631
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: in units and apartments and it's been very hard for

632
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: them to be able to access sol at solo PV.

633
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: So there was a nice announcement yesterday about the opportunities

634
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: to match about seven thy five hundred per unit, so

635
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: people can, particularly people in units and apartments, we'll be

636
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: able to access cheaper power as well. But one of

637
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: the really nice announcements we did was around four year

638
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: old pre school and so we're going to have instead

639
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: of the fifteen hours or the two and a half

640
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: days per week, we're going to have full time preschool

641
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: for four year olds. So that's a saving between five

642
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: hundred two even ony twelve hundred dollars for family, So

643
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: families with a four year old will be able to

644
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: access full time preschool in the Northern Territory. We'll roll

645
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: that out over the next few years, so that's I

646
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: think a really big saving, particularly for young people, young

647
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: families who have four year olds in preschool or having

648
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: to go into childcare. The one around pharmacies that Leah

649
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: talked about, we're out consulting on that, so you do

650
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Speaker 3: need to consult that's what you have to do when

651
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: you're in government. It's easy when you're in opposition. You

652
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: can make a statement and throw that out. But we're

653
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Speaker 3: consulting around that one. But we've already done the work

654
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Speaker 3: also around for example, this seniors and extra fifty dollars

655
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: in their hand for their seniors concession, the back to

656
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Speaker 3: school voucher and extra fifty dollars as well.

657
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk health. The Northern Territories suffered through

658
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: more Code yellows in recent years than ever recorded. The

659
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: emergency departments at our major hospitals are constantly under stress

660
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: and overflowing. Staff are dealing with unprecedented numbers and often

661
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: pull extra shifts. Locals are having elective surgeries delayed for

662
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Speaker 1: extended periods, and as of Wednesday this week, there was

663
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Speaker 1: still a Code yellow at our two major hospitals. EVA,

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Speaker 1: how will you relieve the pressure on the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: health system here, Katie.

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Speaker 3: Health is a really difficult one and for a variety

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Speaker 3: of reasons you've seen. I've worked very hard, fought very

668
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Speaker 3: hard for the territory to get extra money for education,

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Speaker 3: extra money for housing, and I have in my sits

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Speaker 3: extra money for the hospital and I've been working very

671
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 3: hard with the federal government around that to have additional

672
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Speaker 3: money for hospitals in the Northern Territory. The issues are

673
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Speaker 3: multi multiple issues around that. The first one is around

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Speaker 3: the difficulty of getting health staff. That's an Australia wide,

675
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: worldwide issue. So following COVID, a large number of people

676
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: chose to retire and not continue to work or want

677
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: to work part time. So that's a really tough one

678
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: around making sure that you get the staff in our

679
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 3: hospital system. We've done a lot of work around that,

680
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: lots of incentives, will continue to have to do that

681
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: work to try to get more people taking up the

682
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Speaker 3: option of becoming of working in the health professions. So

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Speaker 3: it is about migration as well and making sure we

684
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Speaker 3: bring into Australia, bring into the Northern Territory more people

685
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Speaker 3: who want to work in the areas of health. We're

686
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Speaker 3: also building a new mental health facility at RDH that's

687
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Speaker 3: really important as well to make sure that we have

688
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Speaker 3: greater beds around for mental health patients. The other one

689
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: is also around age care. So in this last budget

690
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: there was twelve million dollars to look at a facility

691
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: that's attached or in that vicinity of Palmerstan Hospital. So

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Speaker 3: I think there's about eighty people in our eighty age

693
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: people are older people, which is sad that are in

694
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Speaker 3: our hospital system. So we've tried and we've put it

695
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: out and we've advertised, but we haven't had the take

696
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: up from any private businesses to establish an age care facility.

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Speaker 3: So we're doing the work. We're doing, We're giving the land,

698
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Speaker 3: we're doing the design work. We'll get to the stage

699
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: of builds so that we can get at some organization

700
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Speaker 3: n DO or somebody to come in to deliver age

701
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: care beds, which will then free up the hospital. But

702
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Speaker 3: we have also seen it's been a bad year for

703
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: a whole heap of flues and a range of illnesses.

704
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: We've seen that. So it is a really complex space

705
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Speaker 3: around hospitals, medical ambulance services. But this one will continue

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Speaker 3: to address.

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Speaker 1: Leah, what will you do to ease the pressure on

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Speaker 1: the health system, Katie.

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Speaker 2: I was doing ocking with Lori Zeo candidate Infanty Bay

710
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: yesterday and we met an older gentleman who had been

711
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: waiting two years just to have his cataracts removed. Now

712
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 2: that is totally unacceptable when you hear these stories every

713
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: single day. Our hard working health professionals are working in

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Speaker 2: the most volatile situation the territories ever had. Last year,

715
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Speaker 2: when we asked, the government was spending ten million dollars

716
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Speaker 2: a year on security in hospitals alone. This year it's

717
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: thirteen million. So something has to change. Our health professionals

718
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: don't want to work here and come here because they

719
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: are terrified to do that.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Until we address that issue, things can't get better. Code

722
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Speaker 2: yellows have only started in our hospital since twenty eighteen

723
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: under this labor government pre COVID, so all of the

724
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: excuses we here aren't stacking up. It's just not good enough.

725
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Speaker 2: What we need to be doing is making sure we

726
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Speaker 2: have healthier people. We need territories to be less sick.

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Speaker 2: This is where the failure to drive down alcohol harm

728
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: comes in because a lot of people taking up beds

729
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: are people who are chronically affected by alcohol or alcohol

730
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: fueled violence, taking up beds where they should be sick people.

731
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Speaker 2: That's why we're so focused on a dealing with the

732
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Speaker 2: root causes and dealing with the demand for alcohol. We

733
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Speaker 2: also have dozens of elderly people who deserve dignified age care.

734
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Speaker 2: They are in beds in hospital rather than living their

735
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Speaker 2: final years of life in dignity and appropriate age care facilities.

736
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Speaker 2: And we've just had promise after promise from a government

737
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: that hasn't delivered on anything to support those people. And

738
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Speaker 2: so crime does impact our ability to attract people, to

739
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Speaker 2: retain people. The assaults on frontline workers are horrendous. The

740
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Speaker 2: money going into security is unbelievable, and so we have

741
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Speaker 2: to provide a safe environment. The people who are in

742
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: hospital should be sick people and we need to be

743
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Speaker 2: getting people healthier, so by having more focus on prevention

744
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: i e. Getting people quicker and cheaper access at a

745
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: pharmacy before things escalate to their gp to the emergency ward.

746
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Speaker 1: All right, we are going to take a quick break.

747
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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one ow four nine's three sixty.

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Speaker 1: It is the Leader's Debate. Well, you are listening to

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Speaker 1: the week that was and it is the Mix one

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Speaker 1: oh four nine Leaders Debate. If you have joined us

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Speaker 1: this morning, we have in the studio with us the

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, Evil Laula and the Opposition leader Leofano Chiaro.

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Speaker 1: It is now time for some of our listener questions

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Speaker 1: you'll each have one minute to answer these. Now a

755
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: few of them are a bit more beefy but and complex,

756
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: but you will just have the minute to answer those.

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Speaker 1: No'll first go to a question from a Northern Territory mum,

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Speaker 1: and this one is directed to both of you. How

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00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: are you going to break the cycle for our vulnerable

760
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: kids and families When our middle and high schools aren't

761
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: equipped to support disengaged kids or kids with cognitive learning issues.

762
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: Territory families aren't equipped to support their growing case loads

763
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Speaker 1: NT mental health, don't have enough youth at inpatient beds.

764
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Speaker 1: There's no inpatient drug rehabilitation for youth in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 1: We don't have the staff or programs to help kids

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Speaker 1: get better or rehabilitate them. I'm fighting to keep my

767
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: child alive. If I'm honest, I'm fighting to keep myself alive.

768
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Speaker 1: I'm so tired. I'm utterly broken. Most days I can't

769
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Speaker 1: work boo. Some days I can't function through the roller

770
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: coaster of addiction and mental health for our child. I

771
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: can't afford the airfares, let alone rehabilitation interstate. The Territory

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: is going through a crisis. Our family is living in

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Speaker 1: this crisis and I want the nightmare to end. How

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00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: will your government stop this vicious cycle for our vulnerable

775
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: youth and their families.

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Speaker 2: Leah, Yeah, Look, it's really important. Early intervention is everything.

777
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Speaker 2: And certainly what I've seen when I'm out talking to

778
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: people is that it's just that it's all talk. The

779
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: infrastructure isn't actually there on any level, whether it's a

780
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: child with a drug addiction, a child that needs speech therapy.

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Speaker 2: You know, this idea of early intervention is just seemingly

782
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: something that's talked about and isn't being delivered. Part of

783
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 2: it for us is why we are taking youth justice

784
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: out of territory families. This government, for whatever reason, has

785
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: decided to lump territory families with a whole range of

786
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: other focus areas instead of the care and protection of

787
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: our children. That is what every territory and I speak

788
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: to wants their focus to be, and they need to

789
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: be beefed up to be able to deal with that,

790
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: to support families, to support young people. And so while

791
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: these issues, you know, are multi laid and there's several interfaces.

792
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: You've got mental health, you've got territory families, You've of

793
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: course got the schools at its call. We have to

794
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: as a community and as a government say well, if

795
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: we put the right of the child first, everything else

796
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: comes together.

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Speaker 1: Leah, thank you, Eva, the same question for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one that I'm absolutely passionate about, Katie,

799
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 3: and you know my background in education around that. But

800
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: when Leah says she's taking youth justice out out of

801
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: territory families, she's talking about putting it into corrections. So

802
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: let's not be that's not a solution at all. One

803
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 3: of the good things is that a full funding of schools,

804
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: so a billion dollars into schools. That will provide additional

805
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: resources for schools to particularly look at this area around

806
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: well being and student well being, and that's one of

807
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: the out that the Northern Territory government will be measured

808
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 3: on through the investment from the federal government around well being,

809
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: that's one of the five areas that we'll have to

810
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: improve in. But I announced the other day fourteen well

811
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: being offices for secondary schools. So that's a first step

812
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 3: or another big step where they can support the counselors

813
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: that we have in schools. Our schools do have those

814
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 3: a larger wrap around services. Can they do better? Absolutely,

815
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: they can do better. But even when I worked in education,

816
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: I have been pushing all the way through more flexible

817
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: options for kids. And so we see the flexi learning

818
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: centers that we have in Alice Springs, Dar and Catherine.

819
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: But again it is one that I would continue to

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Speaker 3: work on.

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Speaker 1: All Right, We've got a question now from Beck in Nightcliff.

822
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Speaker 1: Beck wants to know. She says she's got some serious

823
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Speaker 1: This one's for you, Eva, She's got some serious questions

824
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: about why the Middle Arm developments going ahead when there

825
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: are such serious concerns around the environment. What safeguards have

826
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Speaker 1: you got to ensure that this great place is not damaged.

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Speaker 3: Of course, nobody wants our harbors be damaged. And you know,

828
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm a born and bred territory and I have grandchildren here.

829
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 3: Nobody absolutely wants to see that. But there will be

830
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Speaker 3: and there is full environmental assessments that will happen at

831
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Speaker 3: Middle Arms. So there's been I think about two hundred

832
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: environmental assessments that have been underway already. So whether you

833
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: looking at all the issues that we have in the

834
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: harbor around that, but there will be the highest level

835
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: of environmental impact assessments that will be done at Middle

836
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Speaker 3: Arm over Archingly, and then the individual proponents that move

837
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 3: in there or that will then take up the office

838
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: to be there, they will also have to have environmental

839
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: impact assessments done, so there will be layers that will

840
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 3: monitor the environment to make sure that there isn't that

841
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: cumulative impact across Middle Arm. So I'm assured that the

842
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: thing that all the right things will be put in

843
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: place to make sure that our environment is protected in

844
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 3: that Middle Arm area. But it is a working harbor

845
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Speaker 3: as well. We know that about Darn Harbor.

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Speaker 1: Leah, can you this one is a public housing question

847
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: for you. Can you please ask Lea what she's going

848
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: to do for Palmerston. I can't see anything in their plan.

849
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: And for the tenants that are now getting three strikes

850
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: and they're out, where are these people going to go?

851
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: Well, what we've seen over the last couple of weeks

852
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: is riots, cars being lit on fire. One of the

853
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: biggest issues people raised with us on the doors is

854
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: the antisocial behavior in crime from public housing. So we

855
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: make no apologies for saying that people in public housing

856
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: should have been behaving by community standards. There should be

857
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: strong enforcement of the rules. If you are a tenant

858
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: in a private rental, that would be expected of you

859
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: because we have an eight year waitlist under labor on.

860
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: That weight list is vulnerable elderly people, vulnerable women and

861
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: children who desperately want a house. And so if we

862
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 2: can't support people through strength and tenantcy management to follow

863
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: the rules, and those people should be moved out of

864
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: that house and someone who really really need a roof

865
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: over their heads should have that opportunity. Now, this will

866
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Speaker 2: not only strengthen our ability to get through that weightless

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Speaker 2: and support people who need a home, but support safer

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Speaker 2: communities as well. And people are sick and tired of

869
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Speaker 2: being kept up all night long of what's going on

870
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Speaker 2: in some of our public housing.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're fast running out of time, but a

872
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: quick one for both of you, will you expand school

873
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Speaker 1: based policing EVA.

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Speaker 3: So let's not forget the CLP when they I think

875
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: they had three ministers that were cops. They're the ones

876
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: that actually got rid of school based policing. So we

877
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: got ourselves into this situation because the CLP got rid

878
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: of school based consciples. We have brought back school based

879
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: police officers, some of them are auxiliaries. They but again

880
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: they're doing an amazing job in our schools. I think

881
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: there's about fifteen across the Northern Territory, including in our

882
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: remote in some of our remote settings. But to me, yes,

883
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Speaker 3: we'll continue to monitor the police. School based police officers.

884
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Speaker 3: I'm always in you know, I'm always open to increasing

885
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Speaker 3: the numbers. But they are part of the equation. It

886
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 3: is around that that whole wrap around services that you

887
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: need in school. So whether it's a Clontaft or a

888
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: Star's Academy, whether it's our school nurses, our well being

889
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: officers that we've been putting in additional fourteen being officers,

890
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: school counselors. It isn't just a school based constable that

891
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: can address or work with the issues that we see

892
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: in our secondary schools. It's a whole program. It's a

893
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Speaker 3: whole group of people that can support young people.

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Speaker 1: Leah, will you expand the school based constable program without question?

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Speaker 2: Because our young people need to understand how important our

896
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Speaker 2: police are in our community. I think every listener will

897
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Speaker 2: agree with me that we are seeing a level of

898
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: disrespect towards our police that just wouldn't have happened a

899
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: generation or two ago. We need to have our police

900
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Speaker 2: in our schools so that young people can see the

901
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: leadership and the security that they provide. Have that safety

902
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Speaker 2: in our schools, but also build that trust and that

903
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Speaker 2: relation where young people understand to have respect for our police.

904
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Speaker 2: It's so important and this ties back into the first

905
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Speaker 2: listener question, Katie, and how important equally having school counselors

906
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: in schools are. We saw that horrific decision where Labor

907
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: moves school counselors of school campuses and into Mitchell Center

908
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 2: in Darwin, CBD. And so by having the important people

909
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: in young people's lives at the school where they need them,

910
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: when they need them, that's what changes lives. That's early intervention.

911
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: That's how we can have stronger schools, healthier kids and

912
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: better outcomes.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to take a very quick break

914
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Speaker 1: before we get ready to come back and hear the

915
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Speaker 1: final statements from both of our leaders, both Leafanochi Airo

916
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: and Eva Laula. Well, if you've just joined us, you

917
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Speaker 1: have missed one heck of an hour We've got in

918
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Speaker 1: the studio with us this morning. The opposition leader Leah

919
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: finochi Airo and of course the Chief Minister Eva Laula.

920
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: It has been the Mix one oh four nine leaders debate,

921
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: and before we do wrap up for this morning, it

922
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Speaker 1: is an opportunity for both of you to provide those

923
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: final statements and Evil, we will go to you first.

924
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: Why should people vote for labor when you've had eight

925
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: years to make an impact and to some things are

926
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Speaker 1: not better?

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, Well what you get with me as an

928
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: experienced and experienced leader. I have had held the difficult portfolios,

929
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Speaker 3: the portfolios of Treasurer, the portfolios of environment, all of

930
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: those portfolios, and I think we're looking to the future.

931
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Speaker 3: I'm very very optimistic about the future and I think

932
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm the person that can deliver for the Northern Territory.

933
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Speaker 3: You've seen that when I was Infrastructure Minister. Eleven billion

934
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: dollars of infrastructure that's been delivered across the Northern Territory,

935
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: an onshore oil and gas industry that's gone from beginning

936
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Speaker 3: to delivery, and I've been able to deliver that. I've

937
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: been able to deliver the full funding for education in

938
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Speaker 3: the Northern Territory as well as six billion dollars for

939
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: housing in the Northern Territory. We have some great projects

940
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: I know we get criticized around projects, but if anybody

941
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: in the people who work in the industry understand just

942
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: how hard it is to get to FID around projects.

943
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 3: The ship lift is being delivered as we speak. That's

944
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: a really exciting that's a future maritime industry for the

945
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Speaker 3: Northern Territory. Middle Arm again provides, as I said, a

946
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Speaker 3: huge boost with twenty thousand jobs for the Northern Territory.

947
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Speaker 3: We've got a hydrogen industry that will kick off there Vopak.

948
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Speaker 3: Just recently we signed an MoU with Vopak around carbon capture,

949
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: use and storage as well at Middle Arm. Two really

950
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: exciting projects for the territory. We're going to have our

951
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: standalone Territory Homes Department, eleven four hundred homes, social and

952
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 3: affordable homes to be built across our regional and our

953
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: well across the Northern Territory. That's exciting as well for

954
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: the Northern Territory. We talk about a weight list for

955
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: housing that will provide a relief to all of that

956
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: four year old preschools another really exciting project for the

957
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: Northern Territory as well, being wonderful opportunities for families to

958
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: be able to have their kids having thirty hours of

959
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 3: pre preschool education. The gil Netting announcement, we're the first

960
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: ones that come out and say that would ban gilnets

961
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Speaker 3: in the Northern Territory. I'm very much focused on livability

962
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Speaker 3: in the territory as well. We know the territory is

963
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 3: a wonderful place to live. We all love being here

964
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Speaker 3: and that's why I'm the person that should be Chief

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Speaker 3: Minister Leah.

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Speaker 1: Why should people have faith in you when the COLP

967
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Speaker 1: was a debarcle previously and voting for you could be

968
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Speaker 1: seen as taking a risk on what some might call

969
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: an inexperienced team.

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Speaker 2: Look, Katie, I am so full of hope and optimism

971
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Speaker 2: for the future because the territory of today does not

972
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Speaker 2: have to be the territory of tomorrow. My team and

973
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: I are so focused on delivering a safer territory for

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Speaker 2: us and for our kids, on rebuilding our economy so

975
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Speaker 2: there's jobs and opportunities for the future, to increase our

976
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: livability and make sure that iconic territory lifestyle that we

977
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Speaker 2: live here for that we love so much is preserved

978
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: and protected. And to do that we have to do

979
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Speaker 2: things differently. Labor have been in power for nineteen of

980
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: the last twenty three years, and I just want listeners

981
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: to ask themselves, is life better today than it was

982
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: four years ago? Cost of living is through the roof

983
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: because our economy is going backwards. Our people, our friends,

984
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: our family, our loved ones are packing up and going.

985
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: And not just people who are never going to stay,

986
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: but people who've been here for generations have lost sight

987
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 2: that the territory can be better. But I'm telling every

988
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: single one of you listening out there, it can be better.

989
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: There is a way forward, and we know that our

990
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: plan and our team are the people to drive the territory.

991
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: This election, people have a critical choice to make. It

992
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: will literally change the forward direction of the territory forever.

993
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: We are at a turning point. Your vote is important.

994
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: When you place your vote from Monday for the next fortnight,

995
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: think about whether you can afford another four years of labor,

996
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: whether the territory can afford more of the same, whether

997
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: it's time to do things differently, a fresh new team

998
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: with the experience and real life government experience to change

999
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: the territory for the better. That's the proposition that people

1000
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: are being faced with more of the same or a

1001
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: future we can be proud of a place that we

1002
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: can call home again, that is safe, welcoming and abundant

1003
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: in opportunity. And we know that our plan can deliver

1004
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: for territories and that our team are the people to

1005
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: take the territory forward. So again, can you afford another

1006
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: four years of labor?

1007
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Speaker 1: Well that concludes a mixed one oh four nine Leaders

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Speaker 1: to beata Eva Laula, thank you so very much for

1009
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thank you, Katie and Leah Finocchio.

1010
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time this morning.

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00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: Thank you. Take care everyone,