1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Yesterday, as thousands gathered on the Espanat to commemorate Remembrance Day, 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: the Blue Bombers were apparently out finding Territorians. I've been 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: contacted by a number of people saying that they were 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: stung convat scarlets. The Lord Mayor joins me in the studio. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Good morning to Yukon, Good. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Morning, Katy. 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: I have to tell you it was so hot yesterday. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: It was yeah, we're always sitting there. I was melting, 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: but I was so There were quite a few empty 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: seats because people didn't come because it was very hot. 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: But it was so pleased to see so many people 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: be there. It's a very big event, as they supposed 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: to be the war that end all wars, and here 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: we are now we have the Ukraine War and we've 15 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: got a couple of other flashing points around the world, 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: Gaza and everything else. 17 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: It's sad. 18 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: It's sad we haven't learned our lessons. Bag For us Australians, 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: it was a great event and we have to remember it. 20 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: We have lost one hundred thousand soldiers throughout the years 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: in various theaters of war and we have to remember them. 22 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: These people died for us, for us. 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: We have the luxury to speak freely on radio like 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: I do now with you. For heavy democratic government, we 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: have to remember them lest we forget. 26 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I can conn parking fines on Remembrance Day. 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: It's an operation matter, and I don't know why it 28 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: happened and where it happened. I can't comment on that one. Yes, well, yes, 29 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: but I'm surprised because the event it only went for 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: half an hour. I don't know more about it, and 31 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: I will find out what happened. But Katie, I've been 32 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: fine too. I thought I pressed the button, I didn't, 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: and when I came back to my car found the ticket. Hello, 34 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: and I paid. But that's the year before Spial not 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: elected member or the CEO. The CEO had got a 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: fine and created We're exactly like you are. I just 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: simply have to make sure that I do the right 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: thing when I'm parking somewhere. 39 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Oh I mean, is that really the message to the 40 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: people that got fined yesterday? Would they may bee parked 41 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: in the. 42 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: Wrong sport or I don't know about This is the 43 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: year before. I'm surprised because only half an hour yesterday. 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: So it's started at ten o'clock to eleven it's a 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: two hour parking, so I don't know what happened there. 46 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: I can't give you. 47 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Any more con you and I spoke just last week 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: about these two events for Cyclone Tracy, for the well, 49 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: for the sculpture, the unveiling of the sculpture. Is the 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: event or November twenty nine still happening. 51 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. 52 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 3: The artist would be up here, the sculpture will be unveiled, 53 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: and the color will be there, the blue color that 54 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: symbolize resilience and also the blue color the symbolarity Indigenous 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: people of the original the Chia people. 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Well, they're short to other people. 57 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: As I did before, it's not going to be one 58 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 3: and time. It's going to be a small event, limited 59 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: numbers because it's still. 60 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: A work site. 61 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: How many are you going? 62 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: We've been invited about one hundred people, I believe, and 63 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: there I thinks less than that will come for various reasons. 64 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Do you know how many of them are Cyclone Tracy survivors? 65 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: Quite a few just front all my mind. 66 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: I know there will be at least four three from 67 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: the councils that they're in the council already, and there 68 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: will be more from the from the committee. 69 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: There will be an number of other people that actually had. 70 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: A significant role to play during cyclon tracing, like salvation 71 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: Army organization representatives, defense forces and things like that. Everybody 72 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: who's going to go there we have an association with 73 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: cyclon tracing. 74 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Is it still a bit of a kick in the 75 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: guards to those survivors? I mean, if there's one hundred 76 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: people going and there's like three or four of them 77 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: that are survivors. 78 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Well there'll be more. I'm telling you about the ones. 79 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: I know. I haven't seen the list, but as I 80 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: year before, City of down is talking to the representatives 81 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: or the survivor cycling tracy that Richard Crashwick is heading. 82 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: We have constant communication with them. Richard was in our committee. 83 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Richard and ourselves and their committee work very closely to 84 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: actually establish the memorial for cycling trades. The proper memorial 85 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: will be put in this point. Look, there are a 86 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: lot of groups, and I understand that one and you 87 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: can't plash all the people all the time. We try 88 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: to work with a group that actually we know it's 89 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: incorporated and represents circling trade survivors, and we work very 90 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: successful with them. 91 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: Con someone's just missing through and saying who's coming. Con 92 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: The word on the street is the Prime Minister's going 93 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: to make a two hour visits. 94 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: Well, I can't confirm that one because we're negotiating with 95 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: the federal government and as you know, there are all 96 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: sorts of limitations of work. We can say, Well, who 97 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: can't say if federal politicians come to down. 98 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: Do you know if he's going to come for the 99 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: actual event on you know, on Christmas morning as well? 100 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: I doubt very much. Look, let's be fair, guys. I mean, 101 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: he's got a family, It's Christmas Day. How would you 102 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: like if your job rings you and says you. 103 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: Have to be there on Christmas Day? You won't feel 104 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: very good. 105 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: And I'm a human being and I've got a family, 106 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: and I had a family and one of the complaints 107 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: I got sometimes from my kids is you're. 108 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: Not here on important days. 109 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: And that really, really you have to remember that does 110 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: matter what his position is. He is a family man, 111 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: he's got a family, and here's a human being. 112 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: Please give him some sluck. 113 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Do you know how much the event on the twenty 114 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: nine is going to cost? Yess? 115 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: Well, as I said to you before, it's not going 116 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: to be one done. 117 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: It's going just to be a very small event meeting 118 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: the artist and have a look at the memorial. 119 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: So I don't need the figures. 120 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: But if you don't have food, if you don't have 121 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: alcohol and things like that, it's not going. 122 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: To cost much. 123 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: So there's not going to be any of that stuff. 124 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 125 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: The big events, as I said you before, the event 126 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: you have to go is the thirtieth of November at 127 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: the Ski Club that's organized by us. I believe there's 128 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 3: an event organized by the government and Parliament House. 129 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: I can't give you deters. 130 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Both found out about that. I mean, has the Council 131 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: just handled this poorly? 132 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: No, not at all. And before let's start at the beginning. 133 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 3: We have a committee about sarcland traces. The committee consists 134 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: of council people. 135 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: Are you the chair of a die well? 136 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: In all committees in the council hairs, I am the 137 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: ex official chair in the Bombing of Darkwan Committee, the 138 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: Military History Committee, the Sistercist Committee, I'm always I. 139 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: Mean, I suppose that you know. The question with that 140 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: is if you are the chair, whether it is you 141 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: know the bombing of Darwen or whatever. A committee it 142 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: might be does the buck stop with you then rather 143 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: than the people. 144 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: That you know. There's one thing, the committee make a recommendation. 145 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: The recommendation goes to council. The decision the country is 146 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: not made by the mayor. The mayor and the nother 147 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: territory does not have executive powers. It's made by the 148 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: thirteen elected members. I'm the spokesperson of the of the 149 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 3: of the Council, and as always I get to blame 150 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: for everything because people see me. The reality is behind me. 151 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 3: There are another twelve elected members. Now all of it, 152 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: whatever is happening for syclond Tracy is being voted by 153 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: the thirteen elected members, not one vote against it, not 154 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: one broader decision motion. So the Coal Council is united 155 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: behind it and we believe. And as you before, what do. 156 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: I deal with? 157 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: So they did all votes for the event happening on 158 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: the twenty ninethe, Well we. 159 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: All agree with that one and the thirtieth. But again, 160 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: as before, we've got we have a committee for trees. 161 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: In the committee, we've got people that actually support trees 162 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: and pins and others that don't want And then you 163 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 3: see the public debate in the media, in the social media, 164 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: people love or hate points. 165 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: You can't everybody. 166 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: You're never going to please anybody everybody. But the difficulty 167 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: is with something like Cyclone Tracy the fiftieth commemorations is 168 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: people are really I don't even know that passionate's the 169 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: right word, because it stirs up so many emotions, so 170 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: many emotions, and you know, even when I speak to 171 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: my father in law about it, it's like it's something 172 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: that's you know, that still stops them in their tracks. 173 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: That they are really really upset. 174 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: And I accept that one. 175 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: And I've got many many friends that actually either they 176 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: were here during Taglan tracing, or they grew up just after, or. 177 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: Their parents were here. You before. 178 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 3: When we try to organize something, we're trying to find 179 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: the representatives of that of a group. We dealt with 180 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: these survivors of cyclon tration in corporated. Now there are 181 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: other groups that they're not part of this one. But 182 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: I mean, who am I going to talk to? And 183 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: you know, you don't want to have a camel You 184 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: want to have an event that actually represents the majority 185 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 3: of the people. 186 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: I want to move along just really quickly because we're 187 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: fast running out of time, and I want to ask 188 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: you about about the Christmas pageant. It's on this Saturdays, No, and. 189 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to miss it because I've been lying in 190 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: bed with it. Well, it will be done by then, 191 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: and there's no way. I'd love to be there because 192 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: everyone attended. It was such a success last year we 193 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: had seven thousand people. This year I expect more. I 194 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: believe we've got about fifty floats that they're going through 195 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,239 Speaker 3: eleven schools. They Festivit start four thirty in the afternoon. 196 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: The pageant will start five thirty pm and they will 197 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: be live entertainment and then the Deputy Lord Mayo some 198 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: Western we like the Christmas Tree at seven pm. And 199 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: thanks I very much for stepping in, But as do you. 200 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: Sometimes I can't be there. I have to have the operation. 201 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: I put it bluntly. Climbing the stairs to come up 202 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: to your studio is a big effort. And also I 203 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: have to work together with my surgeon and he can 204 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 3: do it. 205 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: Someone's got to tell you we've got to lift here 206 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: as well. 207 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: When nobody told me, and you know what, goodness, driving 208 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: here this morning, I took the wrong train. 209 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: I was going to your. 210 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: Own studio that before in the morning. 211 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: So it's going to be fantastic. And if you go 212 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: around town, especially in the Entry Park, you will see. 213 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: Now we start putting decorations in the mall, there's a 214 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: beautiful light tunnel, absolutely fantastic. I saw people taking photos there, 215 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: so I'm going to go with my crutches to. 216 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: Take a photo that one to remember. Spectacular Christmas to 217 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: that twenty. 218 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: Twenty four combat Scarlus. We are gonna have to live, 219 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: but they're really good to speak with you this morning. 220 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. 221 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: I'll talk to you in the next few we's probably 222 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: over the phone. 223 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: Sounds good. 224 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: Thanks on