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Speaker 1: Joining me in the studio right now is the Lord

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Speaker 1: Mayor of Darwin convat Scarlets.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to UKNN, Good morning Katie, and it's a

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Speaker 2: beautiful weather. I can't believe actually where they build up,

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Speaker 2: and I can't believe there's still so many tourists in town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is plenty of tourists in town.

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Speaker 1: Well. And the other thing that actually, now you've mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: the other thing that I think is really interesting to

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Speaker 1: have quick discussion about is the backpackers around the place.

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Speaker 1: I've seen them parked up at East Point. Doesn't bother me,

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Speaker 1: doesn't concern me in any way, shape or form, but

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Speaker 1: it does make me realize that we need an RV

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Speaker 1: park somewhere, or we need somewhere for some of those

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Speaker 1: vans to be able to park and be able to

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Speaker 1: stay for a few days.

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Speaker 2: You better go and talk to the people who opposed it.

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Speaker 2: We put the proposal in place, some people didn't like it. Well,

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Speaker 2: other said to you before again it's good to have

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Speaker 2: tourists here, but they stay somewhere. Yes, there are caravan parks,

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Speaker 2: but one of them has converted now is converted to

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Speaker 2: a house in estate. So the number of sites being

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Speaker 2: limited that are quite a few around. Definitely we need

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Speaker 2: something for people to actually pack the car instead of

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Speaker 1: I will move along because there's lots to discuss this morning.

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Speaker 3: I do want to just ask.

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Speaker 1: You about the alleged assault from the Chief Minister on

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Speaker 1: the weekend. The Nightcliff Markets are such a you know,

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Speaker 1: such a beautiful marketplace. Something like this happening is just

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Speaker 1: not on.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely I've been to the Nightcliff Markets that I go

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Speaker 2: to Nightcliff Markets regularly as a private season before and

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Speaker 2: as an elected member when I was a member for

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Speaker 4: Together with the Rapid Creek Markets.

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Speaker 2: One other thing I like in Darwin is actually politicians

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Speaker 2: of any kind with any color are going out like

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Speaker 2: and sometimes they bring some complaints. Sometimes they talk to

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Speaker 2: you for local issues. What happened on Sunday I think

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Speaker 2: it was totally unacceptable, and what really bugs me is

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Speaker 2: the attitude of the person that committed the assault, because

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Speaker 2: that's what is is assault. That it was a small error,

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Speaker 2: not apology, nothing current for a all of entitlement. I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry that person that you actually threw a piot and

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Speaker 2: hit in the eye, gave a black eye. She is

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Speaker 2: a public servant and she did her job. So now

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Speaker 2: if you got a court and you get a kick

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Speaker 4: You should take twice before you do something.

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Speaker 1: Does that worry you when something like that happens that

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Speaker 1: it could potentially open up other people like yourself. You're

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Speaker 1: in the public public eye. Something like that could happen.

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Speaker 2: Many years ago, when I was the Minister of Planning,

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Speaker 2: I received a death threat that somebody didn't like my

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Speaker 2: planning this year. You're going to get his gun and

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Speaker 2: come and get me. And I had to ring my

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Speaker 4: Where do we live?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is really stupid. If you've got a problem,

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Speaker 2: go and see the person and talk to them. Natasha

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Speaker 2: and other politicians and Leah and everybody is either in

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Speaker 2: the nightcliff markets or the publers of mine to sit

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Speaker 2: is unacceptable. And if we accept on today, what are

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Speaker 2: small things, start from small things and then escalates.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what I actually thought to myself yesterday when

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Speaker 1: you know somebody that's for an example, you know, anti

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Speaker 1: fracking turning up to a gas conference as we've seen recently,

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Speaker 1: and rather than protesting outside, you know, throwing something or

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and where do we stop.

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Speaker 2: You don't like the decision by the referee in an

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Speaker 2: AFL much, or we're going to beat up or the

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Speaker 2: to score an abuse the teacher. No, that's not acceptable.

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Speaker 2: This is not the society I want to live. This

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Speaker 1: Con I want to move on because we discussed these

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Speaker 3: The City of Darwin Council is going to move a

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Speaker 1: Support the guests campaign for the Indigenous Voice to Parliament

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Speaker 1: at its ordinary meeting today. It was put forward by

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Speaker 1: Counselor Morgan Ricard and if passed, it is going to

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Speaker 1: centers with staffed don in T shirts and badgers in

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Speaker 1: the workplace. Con are you going to support the motion?

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Speaker 2: Let make clear first, it's not the City of down

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Speaker 2: And putting in the Motion's Council Ricard himself put that motion.

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Speaker 2: Every council has the ability and the right to bring

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Speaker 4: Now councl Recard will bring that one.

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Speaker 2: It has to be a decision by the majority of

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Speaker 3: But are you going to support us?

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Speaker 2: My personal view is this is not the right forum,

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Speaker 2: address local issues. This is a national issue. I let

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Speaker 2: the National Parliament and the people of Australia decide on

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Speaker 2: that one, not me.

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Speaker 3: It really doesn't sound like you're going to support.

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Speaker 2: It really bugs me when people telling me big companies

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Speaker 2: my right, my decision. I know how to vote. I

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Speaker 2: don't want you to tell me. And certainly it's not

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Speaker 2: in respect to what I think about the Voice, I

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Speaker 2: will vote not, and I believe that other councilors will

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Speaker 2: vote not because for the same reasons, not because we

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Speaker 2: don't like Voice or anything else, because we don't think

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Speaker 1: Of motion in Well, that's that is the sentiment that

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Speaker 1: was being brought to us yesterday on the show, but

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Speaker 1: So and Katie, this is not the role of the council,

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Speaker 1: but Connor, I question the timing as well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to ask Counsel Ricardo about that. For me,

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Speaker 2: he is entitled to bring the motion. He's a democratic council.

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Speaker 2: But again Casualy car wrote the letters, they're explaining why

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Speaker 2: Ukraine flags and it was a political no, it was not.

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Speaker 2: Actually there was an invasion of one country, illegal invasion

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Speaker 2: that are actually invaded. This one is different. This is a

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Speaker 2: referredum in place that people are called to vote one

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Speaker 2: way or another. It has generated to a political shit fight,

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Speaker 2: people calling each other names. This is the last thing

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Speaker 2: we need at the moment. Now, council is not going

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Speaker 2: to get this debate. I will vote no, and I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty sure the councils will vote no.

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Speaker 1: Coln Mister Ricardo had pointed to the Council's strong relationships

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Speaker 1: with Larakia nation in putting that motion forward, do you

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Speaker 1: expect that that relationship will be impacted? I mean even

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Speaker 2: We're not voting for the voice. We're not voting yes

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Speaker 2: about this voice. You're coming to the council now, Mister

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Speaker 2: Ricard says, yes, we do have very strong relation.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, we have a strong relation.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, even in suther Larrakia, the

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Speaker 2: now said he's going to vote no. So it's not

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Speaker 2: a uniform position. But again I'm stressing the Council is

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Speaker 2: not the forum to bring this question into to vote

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Speaker 2: all right, there are other forums, other areas, and the

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Speaker 2: biggest forum will be fourteenth of October when people.

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Speaker 1: Decide con One of our listeners has been in contact

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Speaker 1: and did ask if if this motion gets up and

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Speaker 1: the council does support it happening, I know you've vote,

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Speaker 1: you've said that you're not going to vote yes, you're

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Speaker 3: How much is it going to cost to get these

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Speaker 2: And we don't know because we don't have the budget.

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Speaker 2: That's another thing that actually have to be considered during

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Speaker 4: What will be the cost?

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Speaker 2: But the other question is if according to council record,

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Speaker 2: we'll tell people to wear yes t shirts?

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Speaker 4: What happened? Why we're not allowed to wear no? Why

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Speaker 4: are you so?

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you will be raising tonight at

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Speaker 2: During the debate, My question will be we heard about

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Speaker 2: And you're calling us here to make a decision.

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Speaker 1: Are you worried that that could cause sort of arguments

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Speaker 2: Well, as we've seen in the media, and we've seen

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Speaker 2: what happened at the moment, it has become what should

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Speaker 1: Well, and look, you know, I get that it's a referendum,

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Speaker 1: so it's different to an election campaign. But for an

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Speaker 1: I support you know Nsasaphiles, or I support the if

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Speaker 1: not Giao, or our support the Greens.

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Speaker 2: We don't allow council to actually take political positions. Now

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Speaker 2: That has become a political decision a political question.

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Speaker 1: Con Paul from a LAC has called in to ask

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Speaker 1: if there's any fines or penalties for people in the

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Speaker 1: Northern suburbs who are still putting items out for cyclone

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Speaker 1: collection after it's passed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there is, and if they don't clean themselves then

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Speaker 2: if there's a complaint, we will address it. We encourage

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Speaker 2: everybody to look. We're told many times on the radio

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Speaker 2: and the media, on the website, when to put your

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Speaker 2: rubbish out. If you decide to ignore it and then

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Speaker 2: decide to put your rabbis three weeks later, well I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry you've taken them yourself.

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Speaker 4: To the tip.

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Speaker 1: Someone said, Hi, Katie, can you ask the legendary Corn

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Speaker 1: if they're still doing cycle and clean up in Karama?

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Speaker 1: Driving around, it looks like there's still heaps of piles

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Speaker 1: unit complexes. It's a bad look and inviting anti social tendencies.

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Speaker 1: In the wheels of the night, just saying thanks, legend

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Speaker 1: keep up the great work.

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: I'm not legendary, just con The thing I will tell

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Speaker 2: I can't recall it Kara Zone or not, but I

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Speaker 2: know very well that they clean up. We'll finish this Friday.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll finish it by Friday. If not, we certainly

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Speaker 2: continue to clean up. But I'll find out and I'll

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Speaker 2: advise our people.

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Speaker 1: Now, Corn, there's been an expression of interest, or there

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Speaker 1: is an expression of interest right now for the Casuarina

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Speaker 3: Where are we at with this?

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Speaker 2: We're calling for expression of indurors, for people to actually

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Speaker 2: tell us what they want to if they want to

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Speaker 2: come to Casurina Aquatic Center when it finishes, establish their

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Speaker 2: businesses with like cafe, restaurant, health providers, everybody else. So

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Speaker 2: we can actually program ourselves because we're in the construction

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Speaker 2: heaving into construction, but if we know from now on

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Speaker 2: what they need, then we can fit the appropriate areas

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Speaker 2: for them.

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Speaker 4: And I locate the appropriate area.

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Speaker 1: And so is that he oh I just started or

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Speaker 4: And we invite business to actually address that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I reckon that'll be I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be interesting to see who's potentially keen to get

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Speaker 2: The opportunity, especially for a coffee shop. IF's what we

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Speaker 2: deliver into the public is going to attract a lot

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Speaker 2: of public, So you'd be crazy not to actually crash

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Speaker 2: the opportunity and establish a very nice coffee shop, restaurant

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Speaker 1: And I'm speaking of aquatic centers. Well, on the weekend

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Speaker 1: at perap they've got the country Championships coming to the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory. There is going to be hundreds of athletes

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Speaker 1: in the territory. It'll be fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Music to my ear.

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Speaker 2: Let me remind you that some of the winners in

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Speaker 2: the Olympics swimming, they actually train at the Perrup swimming pool.

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Speaker 2: They came from all over Australia to train because certainly

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Speaker 2: the weather he is much better than Melbourne and Sydney.

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Speaker 2: So if he has Perup Pool now he has become

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Speaker 2: a center for excellence. People want to train there and

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Speaker 2: they do. And when casari And open will have another

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Speaker 2: opportunity for more people to train.

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Speaker 1: It'll be more leisure though at Casuarina both both there

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Speaker 1: will be.

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Speaker 2: Fifty pool, twenty five meter pool and a resort style pool, so.

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Speaker 4: You can actually come for the training or you come.

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Speaker 3: For relaxing well combat scarlets.

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Speaker 1: The Lord Mayor of Darwin always good to catch up

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Speaker 1: with you really appreciate your time this morning. Hey on

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Speaker 1: the council clean up stuff, people can still jump online.

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Speaker 1: Go to the website the City of Darwen and just

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Speaker 1: doubles check.

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Speaker 4: Clearly to make sure that your area is the right one.

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Speaker 4: If you miss the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: You still have free access to the tip because we're

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Speaker 2: the only counts in Australia that actually allow you to

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Speaker 2: go to tip anytime. Usually other counts allow you three

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Speaker 2: times a year or four times a year. At this stage,

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Speaker 2: we allow you to go any time. But again, ticks

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Speaker 2: can changed the future. And I'm saying that one because

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Speaker 2: we're the only places where people actually take great pleasures

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Speaker 2: to go every week to the tip.

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Speaker 1: Cannot just ask has there been heaps of stuff like

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Speaker 1: picked up already with the.

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Speaker 3: You know, with the cyclone cleaner.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the volume, so we have the volumes

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Speaker 2: at the end of let's save the month. When actually

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Speaker 2: compile all the statistics, yeah, you know how much? Please

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Speaker 2: here was about two hundred times. So it's amazing what

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Speaker 2: junk we keep in our yarch.

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Speaker 3: It is fascinating in fact.

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Speaker 1: But then I guess the part that gets annoying is

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Speaker 1: when after the cyclone cleanup's over and people are still

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Speaker 1: putting junk out on the sidewalk. Sorry, count Clarens out

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Speaker 1: there you.

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Speaker 3: Calling me Karen, better not be Conrad scarlets. Thank you