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Speaker 1: If you want to know what's happening on the local

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Speaker 1: political landscape, Katie Wolf has it covered on three sixty

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Speaker 1: every One is Listening Mix one oh four point nine

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Speaker 1: joining it's Live on the Line Hospitality in t CEO.

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Speaker 1: Alex Bruce, Good morning, Alex A.

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Speaker 2: Katie, Katy, Katy, Katy Katie. There you go.

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Speaker 1: There, We're going to start that every time a guest

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Speaker 1: says my name. It's mostly the police though, who say

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Speaker 1: my name more often? We'll have to yes, we'll have

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Speaker 1: to make a donation maybe to the It's a Blokes

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Speaker 1: Thing Foundation, who I do plenty of work for. More Alex, mate,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this situation with the BDR. You and

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Speaker 1: I've spoken on numerous occasions over the last few weeks

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Speaker 1: about the potential of the BDR being rolled out more

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Speaker 1: broadly into licensed premises. But it's looking as though some

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Speaker 1: good news common senses prevailed that's not going to be

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Speaker 1: the case.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely good news from our industry's perspective, but also our

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Speaker 2: coup and the public, as evidenced by the couple of

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Speaker 2: surveys that were run by NT News and ourselves on

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Speaker 2: this showing overwhelming opposition to roll out of BDR on premise.

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Speaker 1: So how are you notified that it wouldn't be happening.

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Speaker 2: We got a letter from the Minister for Alcohol Policy,

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Speaker 2: and to a credit, she's been collaborating and working closely

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Speaker 2: with us since this issue first erupted in early January,

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Speaker 2: and in the most recent letter we got from her

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Speaker 2: she indicated that BDR is for takeaway only. That's the

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Speaker 2: government's position. It's not for on premise in its current form,

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Speaker 2: and they should be writing for the Liquor Commission to

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Speaker 2: make it clear what the overarching government policy was. So

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Speaker 2: when we got that, we did reed a collective cybe relief.

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Speaker 2: Quite happy that you know, we have common sense, as

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Speaker 2: you say, could prevail on this one. You know, less

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Speaker 2: than one in nine hundred and forty customers is on

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Speaker 2: the BDR as a red screen, so you know, we

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Speaker 2: really didn't want the general public and our customers to

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Speaker 2: be further imposed. We are fully supportive of sitting around

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Speaker 2: the table and working on approaches that target the issues.

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Speaker 2: We know there are issues, and we're part of the

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Speaker 2: community too. We want to be involved in doing our

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Speaker 2: bit to address them. But Low and Behold, it's not

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Speaker 2: just alcohol policy that can fix some of these underlying

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Speaker 2: social problems.

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Speaker 1: And Alex, do we know what the latest is when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the situation in tenant create.

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Speaker 2: Yees. So the Liquor Commission publishes later today all the

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Speaker 2: additional submissions it's received. That will be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: if they also put up the Minister's letter that she's

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Speaker 2: provided them last week, then the licensees have a further

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Speaker 2: week to finalize their submissions because apart from extending BDR

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Speaker 2: into the pubs down there, there were a range of

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Speaker 2: other matters that they were proposing as well. And we'll

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Speaker 2: just sit down and respectfully work through that with the

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Speaker 2: Liquor Commission and get to a landing that satisfies their

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Speaker 2: need to ensure the community is safe and that alcohol

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Speaker 2: arms that allows our businesses to get on and continue

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Speaker 2: providing services and jobs in the Barkley.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we'll note, look, obviously there's still it's

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Speaker 1: still a little while away by the sounds of it

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Speaker 1: that one.

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Speaker 2: Look it is, but collectively across the industry we are

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Speaker 2: happy with the leadership that the government's shown on this

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Speaker 2: one and also do need to acknowledge not only yours

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Speaker 2: and the papers advocacy on this, but also the opposition

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Speaker 2: and the member for Barkley. He was quite loud and

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Speaker 2: outspoken on this. He correctly identified, you know, why should

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Speaker 2: the Barkley be used as guinea pigs? And we just

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Speaker 2: knew it was tip of the iceberg and it had

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Speaker 2: spread everywhere else anyway. So we've got a good common

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Speaker 2: sensus outcoming through the haze of politics at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess for me, I just sort of

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, if you're rolling something out more broadly,

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Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that it's actually sort of

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Speaker 1: having an impact to begin with. And I still think

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Speaker 1: that realistically, we've got to have some more evidence gathered

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Speaker 1: to sort of show us what impact it's having at

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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 2: That's it. And I heard the Lord Mayor on your

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Speaker 2: show just then. You know, the secondary supply it is rampant.

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Speaker 2: The grog running is rampant. Well, legal sales on the

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Speaker 2: BDR aren't going to stop the grog running. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate that the cops and others have been stretched

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Speaker 2: quite thin because of COVID that. Yeah, once again we're

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Speaker 2: happy to work with them. It's good to know that

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Speaker 2: they are going to look at doing more activity. Now

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Speaker 2: they can to try and target that secondary supply that

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Speaker 2: even around Darwin's quite visible, you know.

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Speaker 1: And Alex, I know that you and I have spoken

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Speaker 1: about this before and you've said that, you know, if

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Speaker 1: there is anybody that's actually selling alcohol, you know, to

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Speaker 1: people that are on the BDR, then they should, you know,

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Speaker 1: feel the full force of the law. I mean, are

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Speaker 1: you confident that all of those outlets that are selling

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Speaker 1: alcohol at the moment they're realistically doing the right thing?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the data shows ninety nine point nine

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Speaker 2: percent fails a green screen, But then that customer that's

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Speaker 2: legitimately purchasing may ultimately be the ones that are passing

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Speaker 2: it on to people that they shouldn't. So how does

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Speaker 2: the retailer be held to account for that? It's hard

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Speaker 2: to detect by its very nature, you know, it's under undercover,

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Speaker 2: but it's really that activity that we need to get

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Speaker 2: better at honing in on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Hospitality NTCEEO Alex Bruce, always good to speak

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Speaker 1: with you, mate, Thanks for your time today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Catie, and thanks for your support on this one.

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Speaker 1: No worries