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Speaker 1: Well, the National's leader David Little Proud as well as

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Speaker 1: the moment visiting local car dealers. They're talking about the

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Speaker 1: ute tax and they're also visiting Grosses to discuss the

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Speaker 1: supermarket divestit powers and what it all means for US Territorians.

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Speaker 1: And joining us live on the line right now is

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Speaker 1: just Senter Nampa. Jimpa Price. Good morning to your senator.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really good? Thank you so much for your time

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Speaker 1: this morning. Now, I know you've got the well the

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Speaker 1: members of the National Party here and you've got both

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Speaker 1: David Little Proud and also Bridget McKenzie. And you're off

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Speaker 1: to some of the car dealerships.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've been speaking to some of the car dealerships.

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Speaker 2: You know. We want to hear about what the cost

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Speaker 2: of living is doing for Australians across the board, what

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Speaker 2: new legislation, especially around the vehicle efficiency stand instead, of course,

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Speaker 2: the Labor Government ram true the Senate last week and

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Speaker 2: did not even provide us the opportunity to give the

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Speaker 2: opposition's viewpoint on this legislation that we know is going

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Speaker 2: to increase the cost of family vehicles SUVs. Thee that

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Speaker 2: in the territory, we industry, families, businesses rely incredibly on

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Speaker 2: this vehicle, on these vehicles for our day to day lives.

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Speaker 2: But this government is going to make certainly our lives

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Speaker 2: a hell of a lot harder with their new legislation.

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Speaker 2: Well not like.

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Speaker 1: Utes are just about every second car in the Northern Territory,

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Speaker 1: aren't they, Senators, So it does seem as I could

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Speaker 1: have an impact on us territorians.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look absolutely, I mean, you know, we certainly we

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Speaker 2: don't have the capacity for territories to all buy up evs.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the cost of the cost at the

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Speaker 2: moment of say a petrol Toyota RAV four start at

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Speaker 2: about thirty five thousand and the EV equivalent started at about

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Speaker 2: sixty seven thousand. But with these increases, the cost of

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Speaker 2: the family suv and the four wheel drive is going

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Speaker 2: to be a hell of a lot more expensive. And

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Speaker 2: basically at the other end, the rich people of Australia

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Speaker 2: are going to be subsidized to be able to buy

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Speaker 2: up evs in the cities, while the rest of us

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Speaker 2: have to pay a hell of a lot more. And

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Speaker 2: as I said industry depends on it in the northern territory.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you're supposed to drive. I know,

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Speaker 2: I like to do the drive from Alice Springs to Darwin.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how easy he's supposed to manage that

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Speaker 2: without the infrastructure along the way to plug into. Also,

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Speaker 2: I mean a day's trip for some turn into three

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I know that people are concerned about it,

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Speaker 1: and they are concerned about the cost of living, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that you're also off to go and

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Speaker 1: take a bit of a closer look at today, off

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Speaker 1: to visit some of the grocers. What would you like

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Speaker 1: to see in an effort to sort of bring down

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Look, I mean we've been out to a

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Speaker 2: Barrow fisheries company today and basically, you know, they see

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Speaker 2: a lot of issues in the way that obviously my portfolio,

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Speaker 2: in the way that our land is often locked, the

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Speaker 2: way that now our marine parks they're looking at giving

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Speaker 2: responsibility from marine parks as the same as parks and

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Speaker 2: parts of our country, but the responsibility back to traditional owners.

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Speaker 1: We seem to have somehow lost. The Senator there, I'm

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Speaker 1: not too sure what's just gone on. Let's try and

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Speaker 1: see if we can get it back. Just bear with

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Speaker 1: me a moment, are you their senator? Sorry you cut

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, I can hear you now.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Sorry, please keep going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Look, there's lots of different ways that this

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Speaker 2: government is impacting on industries, especially in the Northern Territory.

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Speaker 2: Accessibility to land and of course our marine parks, so

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Speaker 2: that we can ensure that we support our sustainable fisheries

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Speaker 2: industries going forward because we don't. When we have less access,

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Speaker 2: it impacts those of those industries, yep. But otherwise, Yeah, Look,

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Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis for Territorians in general is

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Speaker 2: electricity is up eighteen percent, and we're hearing what those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is huge, you know, that cost of living.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is something that people are definitely concerned about.

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Speaker 1: Not quite it doesn't get raised with us quite as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean I sleep with one eye open

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Speaker 2: amount of time, it's actually not a long term measure.

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Speaker 2: This government, the Territory government and also the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: and his government need to look at long term measures

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Speaker 2: to reduce crime. And of course it's horrific in the

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Speaker 2: anywhere there's a labor government. We're experiencing in Australia at

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Speaker 2: the moment in our country's history, the highest rate of violence,

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Speaker 2: and that is suggesting that you know, these labor governments,

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Speaker 1: Sin I know that in some of the other states,

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Speaker 1: posting legislation. Leah Fanocchio had spoken to us about this

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Speaker 1: look at implementing some kind of boasting and posting legislation.

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Speaker 1: We're talking at the moment on national stage about raising

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Speaker 1: the age of kids being able to access social media,

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Speaker 1: and I get it right, Like, I've got kids that

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, well we have obviously the coalition introduced legislation and

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Speaker 3: what we need is the government to back us in

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Speaker 3: support this legislation that would criminalize boathing and posting.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And there would be you know, significant if they're If

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Speaker 3: they're significant, then jail terms may you know, be a

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Speaker 3: result of of breaking those particular creating those crimes. And

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Speaker 3: you know, this is this is one measure to go

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Speaker 3: towards this sort of behavior. And I do believe that

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Speaker 3: certainly social media has an impact in that way. We

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Speaker 3: know that social media has an impact in ongoing feuds

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Speaker 3: within remote indigenous communities, and we do know that you

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Speaker 3: know a lot of elders in communities feel like they've

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Speaker 3: lost control out of many of those communities. And community

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Speaker 3: safety should be number one. I mean, as I said

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Speaker 3: not long ago, you know, in what air the horrific

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Speaker 3: scenes of violence going on, just as bad as what

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Speaker 3: incident that took place while out in our remote communities,

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Speaker 3: that kind of criminal behavior occurs very regularly.

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Speaker 1: Just sin to Namba jimper Price. Always good to catch

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Speaker 1: up with you. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: This morning, no problem, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you