WEBVTT - BONUS: Ken McElroy with Scott Williams 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:03.840 He's bad. 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:08.400 Whoa, we did it. It was a great that was 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:09.959 a really good, really proud of us. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.480 I think that was an amazing really appreciate that. I'm 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.480 laugh at that. But that's okay. 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.120 But it's okay, okay, it's okay. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:20.119 It doesn't leave you. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:21.840 If you say it's okay, it actually doesn't matter. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:22.280 Doesn't matter. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:22.560 Now. 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.480 When we sat down for you to tell us this story, 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.440 you said to me, are you okay? With a really 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:28.400 gnarly murder? 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:28.680 Yeah? 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:29.040 I did? 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.240 And that is a good Yeah, okay, all right? Should 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.200 I crack straight in? All right? On July the tenth, 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.840 nineteen eighty one, Ken McElroy and his wife Trina walked 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.599 out of the DNG barring downtown Skid Moore, Missouri. 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:50.800 They climbed in on ski was skid, wrote to pretty close. Yeah, thanks, 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:52.479 you've a weird older and said the actual. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.720 They climbed into Ken's truck and he placed the six 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.440 pack of beer he had purchased on the seat between them. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.840 Ken pulled a cigarette out of his pack, leaned forward 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.520 to engage the truck cigarette lighter. As he sat back up, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:06.200 his wife screened in horror, he has a gun. Suddenly 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.800 shots rang out in the small town main street. Ken's 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.240 truck was struck around fifty nine times from bullets firing 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:17.759 for several direction. Ken was struck with bullets in the neck, 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.200 the back of the arm, the head, the lung, and 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.600 the temple, as well as several shots in his back. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.200 He died instantly. Remarkably, none of the bullets hit Trina. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.400 She was pulled from the truck, covered in her husband's 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:33.280 blood and dragged to safety by local women. Trina was 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.279 taken to a bank where the doors were locked behind 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.199 her and she was kept safe until the police arrived. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.440 She wasn't at all. This is the story of the 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:46.040 murder of Ken McElroy. It feels I want to warn 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.240 you about two things. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:48.520 Don't yell at me. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.760 I'm not yelling at your saying stop and listen to 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:52.680 It's Whatt's lovely stories he's brought today. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:53.320 It's lovely. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.400 The thing about this story, this is the first thing 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.040 I'll warn you out. The thing about this story is 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:58.800 you're going to feel a lot more conflicted about this 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.120 murder than you do now. No. And the second thing 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.640 is I do actually think of the first for the 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.640 first time as the third wheel of the podcast that 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.720 we need to give a trigger warning. Okay, sorry, this 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.520 story is full of violence. Okay, and seafoods me. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:21.840 Oh no, not seafood. Not see, I'm fine with violence, but. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.160 If you had offered me five million dollars to pick. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:30.560 Your next has a trigger warning seafood. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.840 So we will be mentioning what can only be called 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.320 statutory rape violence against women. And so if that is 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.360 concerning for you, you actually might want to skip this 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.200 episode on. Certainly not have it on with the kids 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:41.600 in the car. 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:43.600 Sure, and seafood as well. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:49.480 And seafood. In nineteen seventy two, Tony and Mabel McElroy 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.440 lived in a small town in Kansas. Mabel had married 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.440 Tony when she was fourteen years old, pregnant, and he 0:02:55.560 --> 0:03:00.639 was told gross Tony had trouble finding and keeping work 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.680 because of his drinking and it's in explosive temper. However, 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.000 Mabel was frugal and just before the start of the 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.600 Great Depression, they were able to lease a large parcel 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.760 of land just outside of Skidmore, Missouri. It was around 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:15.200 two hundred acres with a four bedroom home included Wow 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.600 Tom planted corn crops. Unfortunately for the young couple. The 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.960 season in Missouri was one of the driest on record, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.560 and the rainless season meant they lost the entire crop. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.320 Oh my god, Sony had to go back to menial jobs, 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.120 working on other people's farms and taking on construction jobs 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:34.280 to make ends meet. Despite their poverty, they continued having children, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.440 and Ken McElroy was born on June sixteen, nine and 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.080 thirty four. He was the fifteenth of the sixteen children. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.800 Oh my god, that's so many. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.080 Who lived in a four bedroom house. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.840 Oh my gosh, sixteen children children. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.240 Both his parents worked more than twelve hours a day 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.000 in several jobs, and their children basically ranged as free 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:55.640 as they liked. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.280 You'd have to work so many jobs with sixteen children. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:03:59.760 Oh my god. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.640 Being the youngest child, very few of the family paid 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.960 any attention to Ken. He did not take to school, 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.720 and he never learned to read well. One of his 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.680 teachers remembered that when he did come to school, he 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.960 would smell so badly that the teacher would have to 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.520 take him to the washroom and show him how to 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.000 clean himself so that the other children could stand having 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:21.040 in the same Wow. Ken decided to leave school part 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.960 way through grade five. And no one in the family 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.000 really noticed that he was no longer attending school. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:25.720 Wow. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.400 Ken was a bored child and would cause trouble in 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.200 the town. In one incident, when he was a child, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.840 Ken was accused by a local store owner of stealing. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.160 He went home and complained to his father. Rather than 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:40.200 reprimand the boy, his father, Toney charged into the store 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.920 with a curved hunting knife in his hands and slammed 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.360 the owner up against the wall. He allegedly said to 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.240 the owner, if you ever touched my boy again, or 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.400 cut your fucking heart. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.120 Out, Oh god sound. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.120 Ken started stealing in the area, mostly small stock animals. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.400 When he was around fifteen, he bought an old car. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:00.640 He pulled the back seat out replaced it with a 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.480 wooden floor. He would drive around at night and steal pigs, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.920 which would then sell to people in surrounding towns or 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:06.839 to the local abatur. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:11.760 This is Diggs's dream right now, driving around town still pigs. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:12.520 It wouldn't sell them. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.320 You wouldn't sell me. Bring him in here. 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.920 And when I wrote that, I just wanted to foot 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.640 la la lah love la. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:18.680 Yeah. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.480 Please watch Sammy's stand up special if you did not get. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:27.040 That reference At eighteen, Ken married for the first time 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.479 to sixteen year old Aleta Holland. They moved to Denver 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.240 and for a short time, Ken was doing well. Then 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.040 one day, while working on a construction site, a large 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.960 beam fell around thirty feet, striking King directly on the head. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.320 He was wearing a helmet, which split in two. He survived. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.240 Wow, Wow, that's so lucky. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.320 Ken took this as a sign that the straight life 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.159 was not for him, and he left his job. He 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.320 and a leader moved back to Skidmore to live with 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:56.640 his parents. At twenty years old, while still married to 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.400 a Leader, he allegedly raped and impregnated a local sixteen 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:00.960 year old girl. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:02.120 Oh god. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.760 The girl took the pregnancy to term and she died 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:09.719 while giving birth to the twins did also not survive. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:10.960 Oh no go. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.279 A former classmate tells. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.960 That the pigs go back to the happy pigs. 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.159 What was it that I said before? 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.320 It is nar? I agree? 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:27.200 Sorry, I think that's Nari. A former classmate told the 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.320 story that the girl's family began to raise concerns about 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.920 what Ken had done. He broke into their house one 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.480 night raped their other daughter to show them that they 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:38.240 were vulnerable. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.240 Oh my god, I think I'm going to. 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:41.640 Have to leave. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.599 The family stopped talking about the younger daughter's death, and 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.320 they never raised charges with the police. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.680 Oh my god, that is disgusting. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.520 While this was happening, Ken had met and started dating 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.279 a fifteen year old girl named Sharon. They had a 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.640 complicated relationship, and during an argument one afternoon, while sitting 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.440 in his truck, Ken pulled out shotgun and held it 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.719 against sharon face. He told her if she didn't stop 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:06.880 bloody talking, he would shoot. Later, Sharon said that the 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.400 gun accidentally discharged, what ripping into her face and neck 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.280 and causing huge wound wear. Section of her skilled skin 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:18.320 pulled loose from her ear. To no, no, she refused 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.520 to certain aid charges and she surplied. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.280 Oh my god. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.680 As soon as she was released from the hospital, Ken 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.440 convinced her that they should get married. Oh. He divorced 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.560 a letter and married Sharon, which ensured that Sharon could 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.000 not testify against him for the shooting. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.160 My god, I. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:43.320 Was going to say, Sammy has kindly invited you into 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:43.840 his home. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:44.720 That's true. 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.520 He's given you a glass of Shandon. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:53.000 Thank you, thank you, thank you, And you have abused 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:58.160 the open invite by coming in here and telling us 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.600 upsetting g like this, telling us the stories. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:06.840 Look, don't flick through your pages at me on that clipboard. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:13.760 We're at the start of this story, Sharon. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.440 If you're not watching on the YouTube, was cep You 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:24.240 just read ahead and gave a creepier Oh no, just. 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:29.480 Call me buttons. They had two children, Sharon and Ken. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.439 Then around nineteen sixty one, twenty seven year old McElroy 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.480 started dating a thirteen year old girl named Sally, who 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:39.520 he had met while she was waiting at a local 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:40.040 bus stop. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:42.520 I was just going to sit here and quietly disassociated. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:43.840 Yeah. Yeah. 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.559 He and Sharon were living with his parents, and McElroy 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.920 decided to move Sally in with his wife, Sharon and 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:54.200 their children. Sally had three children to Ken, and Sharon 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:55.120 had two more. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:56.840 And they were just still living together. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:57.400 Yes. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:06.880 The name of the slave that Thomas Jefferson repeatedly raped 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.120 and I think she fathered children to him was also 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:10.720 called Sally. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:11.240 There you go. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.079 Really just thought I'd tell you a disturbing story of 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:15.480 horrible thanks. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.600 Ken would spend his days hanging out with his hunting buddies, 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.200 and at night he would steal horses, hogs, and cattle. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.280 By this time, he had an old truck and a 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.840 horse trailer that made stealing easier. In one incident, a 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.480 local farmer, Glenn Graham, caught Ken and two of his 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.280 friends stealing two horses. Allegedly, the farmer went out to 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.959 the paddock to check his horses and was brutally attacked 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.800 by Ken and his friends. This is where we get 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:39.520 a little bit gnarly. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.080 This this is where gannali. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.280 They allegedly used brass knuckles and clubs to beat Glenn. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.640 When he dropped to the ground, they continued beating him, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.360 and according to the sheriff's report, his left eye appeared 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:52.520 to have been kicked out of his head. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:56.480 Oh might out of his head the rest of his head. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.240 Horrendous correct use of the word horrenders. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.520 Horrenders. Now, I'm going to keep saying allegedly occasionally in 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.040 this because Ken has never been convicted of me all 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:05.680 these crimes. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:06.520 Wow. 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.360 Ken was charged with this assault and this is when 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:13.240 he met attorney Richard McFadden on this occasion. He didn't 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.160 need the attorney, however, because something other than stealing that 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:17.840 Ken was great at was intimidation. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.600 Yeah, I'm so surprised by that, saying he talked all 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.160 these young women into marrying him. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.640 And all these young women so far. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.880 Also no not young women, children children. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.440 The day after he was charged, McElroy visited the farmer 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.480 asked him to drop the charges, and when the farmer refused, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.800 McElroy returned to his truck, got a gun, entered the 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.080 farmer's home and hit him in the face, with the gun, 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:49.000 breaking his nose and fracturing his other eye socket. The farmer, 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.920 Glenn Graham, dropped all charges. The fact that the charges 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.199 were dropped called outrage in the town. One local was 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.320 quoted as saying, to the men in this town need 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.480 to take the law in her own hands and resolve 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.440 this situation, or can be allowed to continue living in 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:13.840 this community and committing crimes. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:12.200 Harmonized as well? 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:16.800 You to good staff. In nineteen sixty four, now thirty 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.679 year old Ken McElroy met Alice outside the corner store. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.840 She asked him to buy her cigarettes and he agreed 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.160 on the condition that she would smoke them in his truck. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:32.120 Ils was twelve. Oh my god, when Ken first seduced her. Ah, 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.160 and please note I use the word seduced because that's 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.400 how Ken's wife described it, but it's actually not the 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.840 right word. It's statutory rape. In fact, it's not that. 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:48.200 In nineteen sixty nine, thirty four year old Ken was 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.040 introduced by Alice to her eighth grade friend, Trina McGann, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.440 who became very who became very fond of Ken very quickly. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:01.600 Trina would get other twelve year olds students to sign 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.000 her mother's name on absentee notes so she could sneak 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:08.240 out of school and man, can they commenced a sexual relationship? Well, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:13.040 they didn't, and Ken quickly convinced Trina to leave her parents' house, 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.040 drop out of school and moving with him. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:15.800 Wow. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.760 At fourteen years old, Trina had her first child. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.200 Wow to what he's like thirty six, thirty. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.520 Four, thirty four on thirty six now that she's full. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.160 Your math was amazing then, because it's usually not. 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.800 Something's happening today. You've rewired my brain incredible disturbance, so 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:33.800 much I can now do. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.000 Ad to like nobody. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.720 Thank you. You became math. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.080 That was amazing. There was no room for Trina at 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.760 his parents' house, so Ken kicked Sally out and Trina 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.520 moved in with Ken. Sharon, Sharon's kids, and Ken's parents and. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.439 Ken's parents are still around through all of this. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.920 Yep, oh, I have some words. But the happy home 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.600 did not last long. Just after Trina gave birth, Sharon 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.319 convinced her that they had to get out of the 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.000 house and they ran off and went to Trina's parents 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.199 home for refuge. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.600 So Trena's parents were on board with this as well well. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.600 Trina's parents were around around exactly on board they were around. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:12.280 Ken came to Trina's parents home with a gun and 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.959 forced the girls to come back home with him. When 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.240 he got them home, he beat them each. He beat 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.320 each of them and then made each of them have 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:20.959 sex with him. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.160 Oh my god, I hate this. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.640 Yes. He then took Trina in his truck back to 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:32.520 her parents' house, shot the family dog, poured petrol around 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.840 the outside of the house and burned it down so 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.520 Trina's family would know never to protect her again. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.280 Oh my, what the fuck? 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:41.760 What the fuck? 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.719 A few days later, Trina attended the doctor because the 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.160 wounds from her beating and sexual assult were severe. The 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.360 doctor was able to convince Trina to tell him the 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:54.360 truth about the beating, the shooting, and the arson, the 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.600 Big three. Yep. The doctor contacted social welfare, who took 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.080 Trina and her child to a foster care. Remember she 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:02.680 was fourteen years old. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.160 Oh my god, who's to foster care too? Because she. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:12.360 Because she's still a fucking toil. That's why. On the 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.160 basis of her testimony, Ken was indicted for arson, statutory rape, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:21.240 and assault. Richard McFadden represented mcorory, again, saying that he 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.160 was his favorite client because he always comes back and 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.280 he always pays cash. Jesus cursed. The attorney's tactic each 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.400 time was to delay the case until he and Ken 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.840 could work out a solution. Guess what Ken's solution was 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:39.280 on this occasion, intimidation. He found the foster home where 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.120 Trina was house and started making threatening phone calls. He 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.520 would sit outside the house for hours with his headlights on, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.560 shining through the windows of the home, and occasionally he 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.520 would fire a shotgun into the air. At one stage, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.440 she called the foster family and he said he would 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.000 exchange the safety of one child for the safety he 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.920 was implying that he knew where the foster family is, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.240 child went to school, what bus she caught, and he 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:06.480 would kidnap her to get Trina. The delay, tactics and 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.440 intimidation lasted around two months, and then Trina decided she 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.720 was concerned for the safety of the Foster family and 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.080 she found life there a little bit boring, so she 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:21.000 left and returned to liv God. Ken then convinced Trina 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.080 they should go out of state and get married, despite 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.840 the fact that he was still married to Sharon because Trina, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.240 and I've written this in capital letters, because Trina was 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:34.080 still a fucking child. Ken required the permission of a 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:38.080 parent or guardian to marry her, and Trina's parents refused. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:39.560 Oh I wonder lie. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.040 To get Trina's mother to agree to the marriage, Ken 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.080 went to the house where they now lived, because remember 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:49.600 he'd burned out, he killed their new dog, and he 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.240 holed a knife to Trina's mother's throat, and, according to 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:57.280 Trina's mother, politely asked her to reconsider how. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.200 Did to her throat and politely asked her light what 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:00.960 a psycho? 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.520 Trina's mother signed the paperwork allowing Trina to marry Ken. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.720 Marrying Trina meant that she could not be compelled to 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:14.520 testify against him. She also signed a statement to say 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.280 she'd made up the beating of rape charges and the 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.720 arson story just because she was mad at Ken, and 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:26.280 McElroy was beat the charges. In nineteen seventy six, he 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.640 shot his neighbor, another farmer, with a shotgun filled with 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.720 bird shot, injuring him in the face and stomach. Again, 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.120 he was defended by McFadden, who delayed the case while 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.680 McElroy intimidated not only with the farmer but the judge. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:39.960 Bird shot. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:44.000 Bird shot is like not shotgun pellets. It's like a salt. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.080 I think it's salt based. Scares the birds. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.880 Off, it doesn't kill him, okay. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.120 He would drive past the farmer's house, shin a spotlight 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:54.520 through his windows at night, destroy his tractors, and he 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.840 stood out on the property boundary firing guns into the 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.960 neighbor's crops. The farmer said McElroy was parked out his 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.480 home at least one hundred times. Ken also went to 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.600 the judge's property and burned down his bar, leaving a 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.720 poorly written note which said your cattle and children next 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:11.360 to the judge. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.240 To the judge, Okay, I'm going to just say here. 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.880 Doing the story very much, I do not for coming. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:18.600 Thanks you for that. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.439 And I have never I don't think ever in my 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:28.000 life thought before that taking someone else's life would be 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:32.040 a good thing. But right now I want to ask you, 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:36.480 why no one seeing everyone's and farmers and everything, everyone's 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:41.800 got guns. Why did no one even perhaps accidentally maybe 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:42.800 go out hunting? 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.560 And what happened at the start of the story? 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:49.000 Gee, but this is later before now I know. 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.600 Yep. So even though there were witnesses to the shooting, 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.240 two of Ken's hunting buddies testified that he'd been with 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.560 them the whole day and the witnesses must be mistaken. Remarkably, 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.600 the judge accepted that testimony. The judge so judge, and 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:09.280 Ken was not convicted. In nineteen eighty two of Ken 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.320 and Trina's daughters went to the local staugh to buy 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.959 some household groceries. The store was run by Lois and 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.560 Ernest bowen Camp, a couple who were beloved in the town. 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:23.600 Lois and Earnest as they were leaving, Yeah, as they 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.480 were leaving, the five year old picked up two pieces 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.159 of candy and put them in her pocket. Seventy two 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.160 year old Ernest saw her do this, grabbed her arm 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:32.960 and told her to put them back or pay for them. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.840 The girl wriggled free and ran home to complain about 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.560 her treatment to her mother, Trina. Shortly after, Trina and 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.000 Ken entered the store and confronted the older couple who 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.320 owned the store about how they had treated Trena's daughter, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:46.480 very similar. 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.320 To what his dad, Yeah Yeah. 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.960 Ernest chastised Traina for her daughter's behavior and told them 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.480 that they and their whole family were now banned from 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.960 the store for life. Obviously, Ken took this well. He 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.439 began a can pain of intimidation against Lois and Ernest 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:03.080 bowen Camp. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.760 But their names are Lewis and Scott. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:08.840 Changed the story. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:09.800 Change the story. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:15.440 Scott read, write it back to Disneyland. He would Ken 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.240 to sit outside the store on the front of his 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.120 truck with a knife or a gun, or a gun 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.600 with a bayonet attached. Around a month after around a 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.120 month of harassment, McElroy pulled up behind the store one afternoon, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.080 waited for Ernest bowen Camp to come out the back door, 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.400 and shot him, hitting him in the face and neck 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.840 with the shotgun. The store owner lived and Ken was 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:40.280 arrested and charged for this shooting. Oh His response was 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.800 to continue to harass the store owners. He would go 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:44.919 every day to the D and G, which was the 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.960 local bar, and tell anyone there how he would kill 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:48.639 the store owner. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:49.240 My god. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.920