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Speaker 1: Hi guys, it's the pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 3: Now there's no confirmation, but there is speculation that Beyonce
Speaker 3: could be coming to Australia on part of her tour.
Speaker 3: I would, hands down go and see that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, saying, hey, what about Katy Perry? Though she isn't
Speaker 1: she You're gonna go see her?
Speaker 3: She just annoys me a little bit too much now
Speaker 3: and I feel like it's interrupting my feelings about the music.
Speaker 1: I am at a point now where I feel a
Speaker 1: bit sorry for Katy Perry.
Speaker 2: I think the.
Speaker 1: Pylon is hard and swift, even if she does come
Speaker 1: across a little bit insufferable, but she's still very harsh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty fast, wasn't It was like a
Speaker 3: rocket The pylon get it. It's not funny. I thought
Speaker 3: it was funny. No, But what I want to talk
Speaker 3: about Beyonce, not the fact that I would go to
Speaker 3: her concept. But I read this this morning and it
Speaker 3: really pissed me off. People are slamming her and saying
Speaker 3: like she's a failure and she's done and all of
Speaker 3: this stuff because her concert didn't immediately sell out. And
Speaker 3: there are some people that are selling tickets for like
Speaker 3: twenty thirty dollars.
Speaker 2: So the resell on like the resell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like some people like, hey, just here's a ticket.
Speaker 3: It's cheap, and everyone's like comparing it to the same
Speaker 3: price as a happy meal, And I'm like, this is Beyonce.
Speaker 3: We love to see it, like this woman has been
Speaker 3: at the top of her game for twenty years. We
Speaker 3: love to wait for like the tiniest thing that we
Speaker 3: can grasp onto because maybe she didn't sell out a
Speaker 3: show for the first time.
Speaker 1: When you say resell value, does this turn It is
Speaker 1: the people trying to scout tickets, so like people who
Speaker 1: have bought lots of tickets, they do it at a
Speaker 1: bet that it's going to sell out quickly and then
Speaker 1: they can resell it for a higher value.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I then assume that's what the twenty dollars resell. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I kind of think, well, if anything like sucks to
Speaker 1: be them, like you deserve that, because it's so annoying
Speaker 1: when you had these people who buy out so many
Speaker 1: tickets and then try and resell it for more expensive
Speaker 1: Like it's just such a shitty business plan.
Speaker 3: I just was annoyed at the headlines trying to like
Speaker 3: slam on a woman just because you know, she's just
Speaker 3: won Album of the Year. The woman is not failing.
Speaker 3: The woman is a billionaire. The woman has an amazing
Speaker 3: family and a husband. And I just hate the fact
Speaker 3: that we're like, yes, we knew what you suck. You're done, Like,
Speaker 3: get a life. Anyway, if she comes here, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go see he for twenty bucks.
Speaker 1: Well maybe I'm going to go and see Katie Perry
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: I actually yours.
Speaker 2: I would like to go and see her. I'm not
Speaker 2: against it, Okay, So no one's coming with me, right.
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you today, Laura about AI
Speaker 3: and teaching. Now. I know there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: in the world that are scared that AI is going
Speaker 3: to end up taking over and taking jobs because it's
Speaker 3: sort of what it's doing, like it's putting a lot
Speaker 3: of people out of work. And there are a lot
Speaker 3: of people saying that AI is very close to out
Speaker 3: smarting us as humans, like they don't need us anymore
Speaker 3: to repro themselves. Now, that will be a scary day.
Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't surprise me though, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: they have the answers to everything since it is constantly
Speaker 1: connected to the Internet.
Speaker 3: Well, something very controversial is happening over in the UK.
Speaker 3: So there is a college, a private school in London
Speaker 3: called David Game College, and it is about to open
Speaker 3: its first class of teacherless courses to twenty people. Now
Speaker 3: it's done a trial with seven students. This is a
Speaker 3: course that is going to be run almost one hundred
Speaker 3: percent solely on AI robots. So the teacher is going
Speaker 3: to be a robot that is programmed for them. They
Speaker 3: will learn just with headsets. Like there's a photo here.
Speaker 3: This is what the classroom's going to look like. Right,
Speaker 3: you'll go to school, You'll put an AI headset on.
Speaker 3: Looks like a virtual reality headset. Yeah, virtual reality, And
Speaker 3: that's how it's going to be taught. There's going to
Speaker 3: be three people like still real humans that are going
Speaker 3: to be like helpers to the robot that will be
Speaker 3: in the room to help with things like emotional support
Speaker 3: and teach the things that the AI robot isn't good at. Now,
Speaker 3: the things that the AI robot isn't good at is
Speaker 3: like sex education and things like that, because I guess
Speaker 3: robots don't have sex apparently, so they don't know how
Speaker 3: to teach that. But I don't know how I feel
Speaker 3: like I really did this deep dive into it. At
Speaker 3: the start, when I heard that a robot could be
Speaker 3: teaching the class, I was like, that is wild. I
Speaker 3: would never want my kid to be taught by AI.
Speaker 3: And then when I read a little bit more about it,
Speaker 3: it definitely has some pros in it as well. So
Speaker 3: like each child does its studies on a computer with
Speaker 3: its headset, but they're not all the same. So the
Speaker 3: computer and the AI will learn what that particular student
Speaker 3: is excelling at and what they're not excelling at. Then
Speaker 3: it tailors its course and its curriculum to push it
Speaker 3: in so it becomes like an even playing field for everyone.
Speaker 3: So if it sees that you're lacking in something, whether
Speaker 3: that's maths or science or chemistry. It tailors its program
Speaker 3: to your specific needs, and so there are parts of
Speaker 3: it like that where I'm like, well, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: When I first saw this, when you said David Game College,
Speaker 1: I just looked it up because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it might be like a coding school, Like it might
Speaker 1: be like David Game I don't know, like gamer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe it's like a school for people
Speaker 1: who who are who are gamers.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: It's just a normal private school. I think that most
Speaker 1: parents would have an issue with this. I think that
Speaker 1: that most people out there would feel as though, you know, look,
Speaker 1: I understand that this might come into being a standard
Speaker 1: in the future, but no one wants their kids to
Speaker 1: be the guinea pigs of a new procedure. And that
Speaker 1: would be the thing that I would be the most
Speaker 1: concerned about, because AI, yes it's very smart, and yes
Speaker 1: it can adapt to people's learning skills and everything else,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't have empathy. It doesn't know how to
Speaker 1: show emotional intelligence, it doesn't know how to cater to students'
Speaker 1: very unique needs, and it also doesn't know how to
Speaker 1: read how someone's feeling, like a kid could be feeling
Speaker 1: panicked about the information that they're getting, or they could
Speaker 1: be feeling stressed or have anxiety or whatever, and there's
Speaker 1: no way for AI to pick up on those social cues.
Speaker 1: So I think that this really only suits a very
Speaker 1: specific type of learning, And what we've all learned from
Speaker 1: going through school is that all kids learn differently, and
Speaker 1: all kids need different support structures and support systems in place.
Speaker 1: And I think that this goes backwards, not forwards.
Speaker 3: With that, I think we need to come to this
Speaker 3: sort of acceptance and realization in the world that we
Speaker 3: can't beat AI. AI is our future. It is going
Speaker 3: to be integrated into all aspects of our life. And
Speaker 3: I do think it's going to come into schools and
Speaker 3: colleges around the world, but I don't think it should
Speaker 3: ever come in one hundred percent, Like I think we
Speaker 3: should be working alongside it. So maybe it's okay that
Speaker 3: they've still got three support teachers in the classroom, and
Speaker 3: maybe that's the part where the empathy comes in and
Speaker 3: things like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: My other point to these is is, like I mean,
Speaker 1: looking at this and looking at these kids sitting with
Speaker 1: virtual reality goggles on.
Speaker 2: In a classroom.
Speaker 1: There's something really isolating about that, like they're not having
Speaker 1: a combined learning experience.
Speaker 2: I think so much learning, and I think.
Speaker 1: About this from a workplace as well, comes from the brainstorming.
Speaker 1: It comes from the creativity of what other people think,
Speaker 1: or the questions that other people have, because that question
Speaker 1: might spark something that's of interest to you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a collaborative learning experience in a classroom, and this
Speaker 1: makes learning very isolated and individual and I don't know
Speaker 1: if that is actually socially a benefit to kids.
Speaker 3: Well. The other thing that people are kicking off about,
Speaker 3: and I think fair, is that per year per student,
Speaker 3: this school costs thirty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And now they've removed some teachers from the equation that
Speaker 1: employ less people but still make the same amount of money.
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, what, how an't you paying the robot? How
Speaker 3: much you paying them? Is their salary more than the
Speaker 3: average teacher, like thirty five thousand dollars per I.
Speaker 1: Mean, look, I understand that it's something that we're not
Speaker 1: going to be able to move away from in the future,
Speaker 1: but I would not want my kids being the guinea
Speaker 1: pig for this type of learning at all like, And
Speaker 1: I think schools and teachers have such a huge responsibility
Speaker 1: as it is, there is so much on them in
Speaker 1: terms of what they have to provide. But I don't
Speaker 1: think that this is the solution to that problem. I
Speaker 1: think more support for teachers is the solution.
Speaker 3: It's also crazy. I think that one day our kids
Speaker 3: will say to us, Oh my god, I can't believe
Speaker 3: you were taught by like a human. That's so lame.
Speaker 1: But also like, why are we increasing screen time? Like
Speaker 1: there's no there's so many refugere flags about this.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: The other week, if you guys will this, I told
Speaker 1: a story about how the dummy Fairy came to our
Speaker 1: house and she took my daughter, who is four years old, Lola,
Speaker 1: her prize possession, and that was her five dummies that
Speaker 1: she has had since literally the day she was born.
Speaker 1: She loves these dummies more than she loves anything that's
Speaker 1: ever existed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had to bring the dummy fairy in
Speaker 3: because she's going to school next year, and there was
Speaker 3: no other way for you to get rid of them.
Speaker 3: So we're like, what can we do?
Speaker 1: In my defense, she wasn't supposed to be going to
Speaker 1: school next year, we thought, we have another year of daycare,
Speaker 1: but she's still four. Yeah, she's four, all right, Look
Speaker 1: it's my faults. It was really hard because it's the
Speaker 1: one thing that she just loved more than anything in
Speaker 1: the world. And like any night that we'd ever done
Speaker 1: without a dummy, she only has it to go to sleep,
Speaker 1: and then we take it off her when she is asleep.
Speaker 1: So it's just that transition period that any night that
Speaker 1: we'd ever forgotten it, or we'd been at a hotel,
Speaker 1: or she'd lost or anything like that, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to compare it to. I honestly
Speaker 1: thought that getting rid of the dummies was going to
Speaker 1: be the worst part of our parenting experience. But we
Speaker 1: did the Dummy Fairy, and the Dummy Fairy came and
Speaker 1: she brought a present, and you know, it was a
Speaker 1: really exciting positive change. And I think Lola was the
Speaker 1: one who was ready. She said, you know, I'm ready
Speaker 1: for the Dummy Fairy and I'm ready to get rid
Speaker 1: of them, and everything seemingly has been going great. I
Speaker 1: even got on the show and talked about how cocky
Speaker 1: I was that actually, the dummy Fairy is a genius.
Speaker 1: Idea and yeah, look, I feel like I cracked the
Speaker 1: code with it, with like the specific way of the.
Speaker 2: Dummy fairy coming and visiting.
Speaker 3: Why do I feel like this sounds too good to
Speaker 3: be true?
Speaker 1: So over the long weekends that just passed, we went
Speaker 1: away for a little weekend. I took my travel makeup
Speaker 1: case with me. I don't unpack it very often. It's
Speaker 1: got a lot of junk in it, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's a good one to take with me because if
Speaker 1: I lose it, I.
Speaker 2: Don't really care.
Speaker 1: And we're in the bathroom and Lola was just going
Speaker 1: through my makeup as she normally does, and then I
Speaker 1: hear her go.
Speaker 2: I was like, what's that? And I looked down and
Speaker 2: there it is.
Speaker 3: You missed a dummy.
Speaker 2: We missed a dummy. One job, Laura, we missed one
Speaker 2: hidden rogue dummy.
Speaker 1: This dummy is so fairal It has been floating around
Speaker 1: the bottom of my makeup case probably for two years,
Speaker 1: like that dummy is an infection waiting to happen. And
Speaker 1: she picked it up and she created it in her
Speaker 1: hands and instantly started rubbing it on her face and.
Speaker 3: I was like, so I didn't go in the mouth.
Speaker 3: She rubs it on.
Speaker 1: She rubs it on her face. Yeah, does she God? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she rubs it on her cheek. She likes the feeling,
Speaker 1: and then of course she puts it in her mouth.
Speaker 1: But I got in there. I intercepted before it happened.
Speaker 1: But it has completely derailed us. Okay, so now we're
Speaker 1: like two months clear of the dummy Fairy, and now
Speaker 1: every night she's like, but what about that one?
Speaker 3: So she's probably relapsed. She's had a relap, she's relapsed,
Speaker 3: she's back in rehab, dummy rehab.
Speaker 2: I do I don't know.
Speaker 1: Does the dummy Fairy come again and take the next time?
Speaker 1: Like she knows that it's there.
Speaker 3: No, stop pandering. You get some scissors and you cut it,
Speaker 3: and you cut it in front of her. I've heard
Speaker 3: people say it, that's so true. No, she's going to school,
Speaker 3: she needs to loan. She's old enough. You cut dummy's
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 2: You smack her And no, I'm joking.
Speaker 3: Sorry, you expac people, we've all got trouble.
Speaker 2: You grew up in the eighties.
Speaker 3: You just say, look, now it doesn't work, it's broken,
Speaker 3: and you also tell her that it's an infection. You're like, look,
Speaker 3: how dirty. This is you will get so sick if
Speaker 3: you have this. We have to cut it. Now, you
Speaker 3: cut it. She sees that it's gone, none of this
Speaker 3: dummy fairy anymore. She's gone to school. Life doesn't pander
Speaker 3: to us. She needs to know that sometimes we make
Speaker 3: hard decisions. I think, go hard with the dummy.
Speaker 1: If I was a child and I got to choose
Speaker 1: whether I was like I had me, I'm not choosing
Speaker 1: bread my child.
Speaker 3: I tell you what they're not. No, they will be
Speaker 3: doing just fine in life.
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1: Look, there are times when I do think that we
Speaker 1: are too soft in our kids.
Speaker 2: But I also know that this.
Speaker 1: Is like the one thing for Lola that's a very
Speaker 1: big deal for her, and it's going to be bigger deals.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, Like I haven't given it to her.
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to think that I've caved. I've
Speaker 1: stayed strong. But it's just it's been journey last couple
Speaker 1: of days.
Speaker 3: Why need to get something else to rub on a
Speaker 3: face that feels nice? Serious? Like if it's like a
Speaker 3: sensory thing, go as something else. It's not that she
Speaker 3: can't put in a mouth.
Speaker 2: That's the problem.
Speaker 1: The problem we have now is is that anything she
Speaker 1: picks up like it could be a hair elastic, it
Speaker 1: could be a toy, a piece of lego. Anything she
Speaker 1: picks up now straight in the mouth, she'll just put
Speaker 1: it in her mouth and should chill on it. And
Speaker 1: she never ever used to do that when she had
Speaker 1: the dummy at nighttime. But I think it's because she's
Speaker 1: just trying to find other things to sell South.
Speaker 2: So every time I look at her.
Speaker 1: She's put some choking hazard is gone into a mouth
Speaker 1: that is hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all day I am on like choke watch.
Speaker 3: I feel like this whole conversation, you'd be like, take
Speaker 3: that back.
Speaker 1: Do you know what, don't come to me for parenting advice.
Speaker 2: That's what we've established it. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: Now we are talking dating age ranges, whether people like
Speaker 1: to date down in age or date up in range.
Speaker 1: Britt was spoken about this a little bit before, because
Speaker 1: you you have gone on record and clearly don't mind
Speaker 1: you're dating someone who's a bit younger than you.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm marrying someone younger than me. That's true.
Speaker 1: You're engaged to someone who is a little bit younger
Speaker 1: than you that you have no qualms in dating down
Speaker 1: in terms of age. No, my fiance Ben is five
Speaker 1: years younger than me, and me to the oldest age
Speaker 1: gap though that you would date down for well, my
Speaker 1: relationship before that was seven years and that's the biggest
Speaker 1: that I've gone seven years down, and I before I
Speaker 1: met him, I probably wouldn't have said I would have
Speaker 1: gone that far in an age gap, Like in my head,
Speaker 1: I probably would have said five would have been about it.
Speaker 3: But I don't know where I pulled that number from.
Speaker 3: That's just come from this preconceived idea that men take
Speaker 3: so much longer to mature, so like I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: wanted to have that big gap. But having said that,
Speaker 3: when I met my the seven year partner difference, he
Speaker 3: was only twenty five at the time, so I was
Speaker 3: in my thirties and twenty five sounds so young. But
Speaker 3: I didn't notice it, so it didn't bother me. But
Speaker 3: I just seemed to be attracted to young men.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I would always have said that I
Speaker 1: date older guys, like I would have said that would
Speaker 1: have been my preference older men. Interestingly, though, is that
Speaker 1: my husband is a year younger than me.
Speaker 3: Which doesn't really well it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: But sometimes our birthdays because there's like a couple of
Speaker 1: months where they don't align. So there is a few
Speaker 1: months in the year where I'm two years older than him,
Speaker 1: he's two years younger than me.
Speaker 2: But like, I've never really thought about it.
Speaker 1: If I was going to have put my age range
Speaker 1: in tender, I think I would have put my age
Speaker 1: range as like my age and up. I don't think
Speaker 1: I ever would have had that bracket as age down
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: Nah. You say that as someone that was on that
Speaker 3: for like ten years. It goes to the radiuses is
Speaker 3: because it gets in the age gaps as because it
Speaker 3: gets it's like you end up casting that net far
Speaker 3: and wide. Desperation.
Speaker 1: It's not come on, it's not desperation. No, no options open.
Speaker 3: No. It comes to the point for every woman listening
Speaker 3: in the car right now that has been single and
Speaker 3: on those date a.
Speaker 1: Sixty year old, it would be fine. I got a
Speaker 1: thirty year age GAP's okay.
Speaker 3: I got to the point where it was like extend
Speaker 3: range and it was like you cannot extend the range
Speaker 3: any further. It was like five hour drive away, and
Speaker 3: I feel like I will do it. I will meet
Speaker 3: you halfway, I will go on a date with you.
Speaker 3: But the stereotype definitely is and has always been that
Speaker 3: men date down and women date now.
Speaker 1: The reason why we're talking about this is because, interestingly,
Speaker 1: there's been a research study that's come out of the
Speaker 1: University of California. They did a research study across four
Speaker 1: thousand and five hundred blind dates, and what they found
Speaker 1: is that often people think that they have a perceived
Speaker 1: attraction to an age or they.
Speaker 2: You know, people think they have.
Speaker 1: A type, but when it actually comes from sitting across
Speaker 1: from someone who it is that they're actually attracted to,
Speaker 1: can be very, very different. And what the outcome of
Speaker 1: this study found is that both men and women statistically
Speaker 1: like to date younger So I think for so long
Speaker 1: we've assumed that women would prefer to date older men,
Speaker 1: But interestingly, this study is found that actually women as
Speaker 1: well like to date younger men. Everyone wants someone who's
Speaker 1: a little bit younger than me.
Speaker 3: It doesn't shock me. You know who has taken an
Speaker 3: age gap really really far? Is Madonna?
Speaker 2: What's the game?
Speaker 3: Madonna is sixty six and her partner is twenty eight
Speaker 3: and share so share is seventy eight years old, which
Speaker 3: is wild to me, Like, I still think of her
Speaker 3: so young. I don't think of her as nearly eighteen
Speaker 3: years old so young. Yeah, and Shar's partner is thirty eight.
Speaker 3: Those are big differences for women to date down I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, ah, get it, girl, I agree, and I disagree
Speaker 1: because I still think that big age bracket relationships come
Speaker 1: with a fair bit of stigma, and especially as well
Speaker 1: on the flip side. I mean, we look at Leonardo DiCaprio.
Speaker 1: There's all the memes around him being in his fifties
Speaker 1: and dating nineteen year old girls, and just how kind
Speaker 1: of questionable and congross it is. I mean, this study
Speaker 1: isn't talking huge age gaps. It's just talking about that
Speaker 1: kind of more in between number. Like maybe it's a
Speaker 1: female who's quite happy to date someone who's five years younger,
Speaker 1: but they perceive their preferences being older because that's what
Speaker 1: you know, you've been swayed.
Speaker 2: By what society tells you you should want.
Speaker 1: And the outcome of this and I thought it was
Speaker 1: quite funny it said, this study proves what psychologists have
Speaker 1: known for years that people suck at predicting what will
Speaker 1: make them happy. So what you think is going to
Speaker 1: make you happy actually could very well be something else.
Speaker 3: You think you know what you want, And that's why
Speaker 3: it's so important in dating to date outside the box
Speaker 3: as well. Like if you have been dating so many
Speaker 3: times for the same kind of person, like for so
Speaker 3: many years, you've got the same type, you're constantly going
Speaker 3: for the same looks or the same jobs or occupations or
Speaker 3: type of person, scrap that because chances are well, firstly,
Speaker 3: shock it's not working if you're still on a dating now,
Speaker 3: so that person is not working. But often you find
Speaker 3: the success when you go on a date with someone
Speaker 3: that you never in a million years would have thought
Speaker 3: that you was the person for you. And definitely don't
Speaker 3: say no to someone just because they're younger. It was
Speaker 3: weird on the weekend, my younger sister goes to me,
Speaker 3: isn't it weird that you're marrying someone two years younger
Speaker 3: than me? That moment, when she put it into perspective
Speaker 3: like that, I was like, yeah, that's weird because you're
Speaker 3: like my baby sister. Anyway, let's get out of here,
Speaker 3: all right, guys.
Speaker 2: Well that's it from us