WEBVTT - Why Flex Labelled Froomes A Karen

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Kita, welcome to the podcast, and it's through me here

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<v Speaker 2>and I just want to start off the top with

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a disclaimer. Oh, whenever people give disclaimers,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Just leave it.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, it suggests something bad has been done

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<v Speaker 2>and that I am morally reprehensive. Is that the right word? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be talking about an experience that I

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<v Speaker 2>had on a flight from Sydney to Bali and I

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<v Speaker 2>made some decisions that I'm not so proud of right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I had some Karen Esque behaviors come out. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's Karen ESK.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just Karen okay, Because if we remove

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<v Speaker 3>your beautiful likeness out of the picture and replace you

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<v Speaker 3>in that story with a generic Karen ESQ woman, we

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<v Speaker 3>would just say this is Karen behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>But you could also take it from the point of

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<v Speaker 2>view of like I'm reclaiming space. We could, but we won't.

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<v Speaker 3>And in this instance, I think where you went wrong

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<v Speaker 3>was your approach. Your approach sucked, because if you were

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<v Speaker 3>at the receiving end of your.

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<v Speaker 2>Approach, you're like, what the fuck is this? And I

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<v Speaker 2>think you can't Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like, what, like, we're on a budget airline. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you mean rest is yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway? Sorry? I promise everyone that I'm a good person. Yeah, definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought you're gonna put me up on that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was again, I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a good person. I'm not you are you See?

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<v Speaker 3>The trap is I'm not a good person, so you

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<v Speaker 3>can't hold me accountable for anything. Demon you, on the

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<v Speaker 3>other hand, very very import taste.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope everybody enjoys your story because it's never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen again. It mightn't. Sorry, she's sorry she got caught.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you love certain things in life. I

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<v Speaker 2>love so many things, at least the things that you

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<v Speaker 2>put online that you love, because I'm sure there's things

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<v Speaker 2>that you love that you don't put on LiLine, cause

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to have things that are sacred. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love sacred things. But you love Twilight. I do

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<v Speaker 2>you are Edward Culin fan? Yes, first wife, first wife. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you were definitely part of his regeneration

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<v Speaker 2>in absolutely the twenties. We are in the twenties now.

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<v Speaker 2>I decided to start watching it I watched the first

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<v Speaker 2>one about a week ago. Then I watched number two

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<v Speaker 2>and three yesterday amazing vegetating on the couch all day

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<v Speaker 2>long in quick succession. Thank you for your dedication. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's mysterious. It's I feel like I can smell it.

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<v Speaker 2>I can smell the smell of like the woods when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm want like a cool tone filter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes me feel it's just Twilight, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you play it and then it's done. Pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>it goes And by the time we got to the

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<v Speaker 2>third movie, I had thoughts about Jacob okay, good, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so in the first so exciting. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for this. Watch the first movie, and Jacob was an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute sweetie. Couldn't say a bad word about him, like

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<v Speaker 2>little you know people please are cutie. His dad seemed cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, he's a great alternative to Edward. We

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<v Speaker 2>get to movie two, Jacob is keen on Bella. They're

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<v Speaker 2>going to the movies with that other guy that's keen

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<v Speaker 2>on Bella. It's a vibe. They're holding hands. But I

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<v Speaker 2>could always tell that he liked her a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more than she liked him, because obviously Edward's in the picture,

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<v Speaker 2>we get to movie three, dunt dun, dumb, and just

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<v Speaker 2>for context in terms of culturally, this movie came out

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve. I was like fading in and out

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<v Speaker 2>of consciousness because like, one Twilight in a day is

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<v Speaker 2>too much for me. But we're halfway through and they're

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<v Speaker 2>like Edward, Bella and Jacob are in this tent like

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<v Speaker 2>running away from somewhere, and like the boys like Jacob's

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<v Speaker 2>top LUs because he's a wolf, and he's like keeping

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<v Speaker 2>her warm and there she's asleep and they having this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and we're like, she's my girl, No, she's mine.

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<v Speaker 2>And then later on or earlier on, he tries to

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<v Speaker 2>kiss her and like really gets up in her face

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<v Speaker 2>and she punches him. It was like I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that this behavior was on the screen. If you saw

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<v Speaker 2>a skit about like a dickhead guy, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>every single thing that he did, like in movie two onwards.

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<v Speaker 3>But also you're an adult now, Oh there's also that.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we're sixteen and watching Twilight and Bella is

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen and she's got these two guys, and ones like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tall and handsome and the other one's really sweet,

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<v Speaker 3>and kind, and they both like her, and you're a

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<v Speaker 3>real teenager and no one likes you, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is so cool, and you get to read it

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<v Speaker 3>from her perspective, so you can insert yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the vibe. If you were to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Through the whole Twilight series of The Fine Tooth Comb,

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't even have to dig for the nonsense, like

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that there's one hundred year old guy is

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<v Speaker 3>picking this six year old girl. Weird, so much coded

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<v Speaker 3>language around, like this pure white vampire, these animalistic Native Americans,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>All very coded and very ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>But the point is it's a kid's movie to be

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<v Speaker 3>viewed from a kid's lens. As soon as you try

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<v Speaker 3>and like almost make it a mature piece of film.

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<v Speaker 2>It very easily does not hold up. That's where I was,

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<v Speaker 2>so I haven't made the sanction. I think maybe because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch her when I was a teenager, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking this is high art. Yes, it deserves to

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<v Speaker 2>be critiqued anyway. Basically, what I wanted to do with

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<v Speaker 2>this segment is ask you Edward Jacob.

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<v Speaker 3>It's team Edward always, but I have to go on

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<v Speaker 3>record and say that Jacob is the right man for Bella,

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong man because she doesn't want him. But in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of lifestyles, in terms of interests, they align much better.

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<v Speaker 3>Edward is such a rogue choice and he doesn't even

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<v Speaker 3>like Bella. The only reason why he is onto Bella

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<v Speaker 3>hand on heart because you can't read her mind. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, oh my god, she's an enigma. She's so different.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody else is so boring to me because I can

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<v Speaker 3>see where I through them.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that? Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Owner shit, you don't even like her anyway, Let me

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<v Speaker 3>go that I'm gonna get heated, and I can't do

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<v Speaker 3>this right now. It's just not a good time for me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Bali last week. If you are a

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<v Speaker 2>regular listener to the show, which I'm sure you are,

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<v Speaker 2>you would have heard me talk about Bali constantly, talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the time I drowned, talk about the time that

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<v Speaker 2>my sister was dragged along the seafloor as if she

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<v Speaker 2>was driving a car. It's beautiful imagery. So many different

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<v Speaker 2>things happened. But of course I had the plane ride over. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that a lot of people don't consider

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<v Speaker 2>if you are a flyer, you don't know what it's

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<v Speaker 2>like to fly alone. So when I fly ninety percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the time I'm flying solo. I think if for

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's going on a holiday, you're not traveling for business,

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<v Speaker 2>you're traveling with somebody else. Oh yeah, I guess so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you are not privy to the great injustices

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<v Speaker 2>that bequeath a woman. When you're traveling alone, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to get there alone, cost a lot of money, You

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<v Speaker 2>have to check in alone, don't have anyone to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to while you're waiting in line, can't really plan on

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<v Speaker 2>your phone in customs, etc. But then the worst thing happens,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's when you sit down in your chair and

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<v Speaker 2>they've sat you in b Okay, well that's a rookie era.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't blame an airline for your inability to plan. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing every time you book a plane ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>Pick a seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple.

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<v Speaker 3>If for some reason you want to rush that process,

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<v Speaker 3>not log back in and click manage booking, then pick seat.

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<v Speaker 2>That's on you. You deserve the bee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This trip was the trip to Bali, six and a

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<v Speaker 2>half hours or so from Sydney, midday, so you're flimbing

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<v Speaker 2>at least not budget, right, I was flyimbing budget? Okay, cost,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm flying budget. What do you think this is. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying, it's every day girl boss with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that a few of those zeros have a

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<v Speaker 3>masked so you don't have to fly budget budgets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay? EO. Yes. So I'm sat in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>between a man and a woman, and I personally fly

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<v Speaker 2>a fair amount, usually domestic, and if I'm sat in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle by for some God's saken reason, I'm taking

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<v Speaker 2>both armrests. Very bold. All I want to do is

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<v Speaker 2>just continue telling everybody who's going to listen to me

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're sitting in the middle, it is your

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<v Speaker 2>right to have both arm rests. And I did something

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<v Speaker 2>really upset. I did something quite bold and audacious on

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<v Speaker 2>that flight. And as I said, I'm a fucking stickler

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<v Speaker 2>for getting both armrests, so much so that I spent

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<v Speaker 2>the entire six and a half hour. True, you forget

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<v Speaker 2>that you're a public figure.

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<v Speaker 3>You just can't be going on budget airlines demanding arm rests.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very unbecomess of you, unbequeathed I've beqreathed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there and I'm for the six and a

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<v Speaker 2>half our flight. I'm not moving. I'm like this. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't move my arms. I literally didn't move arms. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Karen behavior, you do realize from my bag, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>leaning forward.

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<v Speaker 3>What is wrong with you? What do you want so

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<v Speaker 3>badly with these arm rests? They're not even comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I hate the idea of people encroaching on my

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<v Speaker 2>space as you're encroaching on theirs. Well, no, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>my arm rest and I hate to admit this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just have to. I asked him to move. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, excuse me, Do you mind just moving because like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have much room? What because I had my

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<v Speaker 2>thing and I move it and then his arms like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you're meant to realistically share it. There is

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<v Speaker 3>two armrests between three people you have to share.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because they already have one that they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to share. If I share both of mine, I get none.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that. Yeah, but that's the way you're receiving it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're thinking either I get it all or I get

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<v Speaker 3>none of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my approach to life. I can't tell you. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like you when you told us the other day

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<v Speaker 2>that you're in the movie theater. Yes, you had to

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<v Speaker 2>leave because you needed to have lip balm here, so

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<v Speaker 2>you miss a quarter of the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>In that saying, I could, I could tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>that was unreasonable, but I was like, I wanted my

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<v Speaker 3>lips to be moisturized. I wasn't infringing on someone else's comforts,

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<v Speaker 3>so I could have moisturized lips. In this instance, you

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<v Speaker 3>are flying budget. When you're flying budget, this is not

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<v Speaker 3>about I'm entitled too and it's mine. You're all paying

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<v Speaker 3>the exact same price. How you divvy it up is

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<v Speaker 3>dependent on the people around you. If he had said

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<v Speaker 3>to you, no, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, what were we gonna do? Then I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>actually probably would have respected it, but I had to

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<v Speaker 2>speak my truth.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why we speak about plane etiquette so often is,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, people don't fly often enough to quote

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<v Speaker 3>unquote know better. But the knowing better is the habits

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<v Speaker 3>you build from flying so often and feeling as though

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<v Speaker 3>the more I fly, the more I understand. Therefore the

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<v Speaker 3>more I'm entitled to, which is not true because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a clean slate every time unless your perks change, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't have to worry about the arm rest if

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<v Speaker 3>you're in business, if you're in premium economy, even if

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<v Speaker 3>you've just chosen your seat, you're making these poor people

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<v Speaker 3>accountable for your negligence.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a bit negligence, and after I said it,

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<v Speaker 2>I had that white hot feeling of yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake. You know it's not. And you do that

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You do these rogues things like wait, can we cut that?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't put that on social And I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally think that in the grand scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 3>if you have the middle like, you should be able

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<v Speaker 3>to claim the arm rests when you want to. But

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<v Speaker 3>I also feel like it is not worth like your

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<v Speaker 3>own discomfort to do so your back, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got your shoulders clench, elbows clench.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that about?

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<v Speaker 3>That's all sexy? Literally it's not hot. And back to

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<v Speaker 3>my original point. You walk around as if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a profile that someone can come and circumvent and

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<v Speaker 3>find you at you gotta worry about harm reduction.

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<v Speaker 2>See, but what you don't realize is, regardless of any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of profile, I have always been entitled same same.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't let go. You're making decisions out of scarcity. If

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have both these arm rests, then I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any What is that? That's scarcy thinking there's enough

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<v Speaker 2>armrest to go around. It's always you're a bit sweet

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<v Speaker 2>to share. I don't know. I wasn't barbing.

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<v Speaker 3>If for some reason, I'm in one of those three seaters,

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<v Speaker 3>I do the nighborly thing, like if I move so

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<v Speaker 3>someone can get their seat belt, I double check if

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<v Speaker 3>they need to go to the bathroom a lot so

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<v Speaker 3>we can swap seats. If I'm getting up, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>do you need me to get your bag for you? You

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<v Speaker 3>gotta do the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>And it always circles back. People are so good to

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<v Speaker 3>be on planes. Like whenever I'm sleeping, because I go

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<v Speaker 3>on a plane, I fall asleep, I always get someone

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<v Speaker 3>next He's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I saved you some food. Oh my god. Okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I need to change my approach. Yeah, well, okay, consider

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<v Speaker 2>this like you know when you hit rock bottom and

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<v Speaker 2>then like I gotta change. I think I hit my

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<v Speaker 2>rock bottom. I gotta change positive, positive motivations only for change.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try that next time. That froom's Reddit throat.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a listening of shit that I've done and

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<v Speaker 2>they will come out one day and I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to wear it picking fights with people on Chapel Straight.

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<v Speaker 2>When I made my first viral video, a chick commented saying,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't this the chick We've gotten a punch on at

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<v Speaker 2>Chapel Straight? That was me? Yep, what happened wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>punch on, per se what was like? I'm never in

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong. Never when it comes to like going out

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<v Speaker 2>doing something, I control myself very well. But if someone's

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<v Speaker 2>not controlling themselves to me, towards you, or just in

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<v Speaker 2>your orbit, I'm not going to get into it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to encourage people to share times when I've

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<v Speaker 2>done unsay things on a night out wow that have

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<v Speaker 2>resulted in abusive situations. I'm on the receiving end of

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<v Speaker 2>the abuse. Anyway. This has been very recuminating. It's never

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<v Speaker 2>my fault. I'm always a victim. I'd never want to

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<v Speaker 2>se in the middle. And if I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>take your home.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest fle.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen worn or bought pheromone perfume?

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<v Speaker 2>No? But I know about it, but no, would you

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<v Speaker 2>buy some in my threads it hasn't worked. And also

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say so you haven't bought any,

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<v Speaker 2>but in your experience, well, I've tried it on. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's I think it's a g up. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it works. Pheromones are natural. I don't want any

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<v Speaker 2>unnatural intervention make me smell like a tuberos and then

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<v Speaker 2>be gone.

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<v Speaker 3>They say that pheromone perfume is made from steroids that

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<v Speaker 3>come from sweat glands, and I was like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>how are we almost farming pheromones and people? Where in

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<v Speaker 3>what facility is this happening? It doesn't feel above board

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<v Speaker 3>to me, because in what world are you getting a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of people in a room and saying I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to soak up your scent? How are you extracting it?

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<v Speaker 3>Come to find out, it's not even coming from humans,

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<v Speaker 3>the pheromone perfume. It's not even human pheromones.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a compound made of synthetic animal musk and chemicals

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<v Speaker 3>that stimulate the nose, and it's designed to make you

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<v Speaker 3>smell sexier to others. But it's even unclear if humans

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<v Speaker 3>can detect pheromones. So what is it marketing?

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<v Speaker 2>It's marketing. I hate it and ill I imagine buying

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<v Speaker 2>it because you want to be sexier. Everyone scary. This

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<v Speaker 2>is my pay for its secrets. Yeah, I'm not about

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<v Speaker 2>that life. Anything that has chemicals in a way that's

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<v Speaker 2>not making me smell like swea something sweet yack. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you to like change my biochemistry.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's doing that. I think that's the mark.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what the marketing makes us feel it's doing. But

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<v Speaker 3>realistically it's synthetic. It's synthetic animal musky something something.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like when McDonald's has the big fat in

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<v Speaker 2>the ice cream machine? Do they? That's that's the myth.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's me, but it's persisted for many many years

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<v Speaker 2>in generation an old wives tale. Not about that life.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we need to buy some and numb try it

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<v Speaker 2>out because you always smell good, thank you. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think i've smelled you before. Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Frooms on kit.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk Tesla elon musk yeah or nae boppa flop

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<v Speaker 3>nay controversial and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like I have high elon musk literacy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I know about him, and I nay used to

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<v Speaker 2>be Yeah anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh eons has made some very controversial, very stifling remarks

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<v Speaker 3>about work from home culture. As we know, given the

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<v Speaker 3>Great twenty twenty two, we spent many a month working

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<v Speaker 3>from home and proved to a lot of employers that

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<v Speaker 3>it can be done, and it can be done well.

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<v Speaker 3>Really isn't necessary for a lot of people to go

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<v Speaker 3>into a physical workspace through their best work, and now

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<v Speaker 3>that people have had a real taste of work life

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<v Speaker 3>balance in terms of waking up every day and choosing

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<v Speaker 3>to prioritize your day and the weight it works best

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<v Speaker 3>for you and your employer, and doing a job well,

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<v Speaker 3>people should be giving that freedom and that luxury. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work for every single industry, but I think it

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<v Speaker 3>works for more than we give ourselves credit. For a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days ago, Elon Musk made a statement ordering

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<v Speaker 3>staff to return to the office effective immediately, full time,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's declared that working from home is no longer

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<v Speaker 3>susceptible now. The thing is, Elon Musk has made a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of trends start in terms of like startup culture,

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<v Speaker 3>mean culture, social media culture. I wouldn't say he's the

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<v Speaker 3>leader in what happens in our work lives day to day.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of things, he says, do get taken

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<v Speaker 3>into considerations. When this big dog tech mogul says we're

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<v Speaker 3>not doing work from home, people listen.

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<v Speaker 2>There is pricker. Listen to this. He says.

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<v Speaker 3>People who are unwilling to abide by the new rules

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<v Speaker 3>can pretend to work somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. A joker.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, everyone at Tesla is required to spend a

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<v Speaker 3>minimum of forty hours in the office per week.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that how much paper works? Yeah, that's the gag.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And he said, if you don't show up, we

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<v Speaker 3>will assume you've resigned. So this is like heavy hitting stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not hey everyone, it's you know time, So

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<v Speaker 3>back to normal. Let's get back in the office. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't come in, your fired, babe, Like you

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<v Speaker 3>are done for And people are of two minds. Half

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<v Speaker 3>of the community is saying that he has just given

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<v Speaker 3>other tech startups the golden ticket to poach really amazing

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<v Speaker 3>talent who want freedom right, who want the option to

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<v Speaker 3>work from home, work from an office, and other companies

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<v Speaker 3>will offer the exact same amount and give people freedom right.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, others are saying that perhaps a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of us young people millennials have gotten too comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>with the idea that we should have any type of

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<v Speaker 3>agency when it comes to work, and if someone's paying

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<v Speaker 3>us a certain fee to do a job, we should

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<v Speaker 3>do it as they're telling.

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<v Speaker 2>Us to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Both schools of thoughts make a lot of sense, but

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<v Speaker 3>I will say it's very interesting for someone in Elon

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<v Speaker 3>Musk's position, someone who's been toatter as being at the

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<v Speaker 3>forefront of you know, progressive change in you know careers, No,

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to career, to be like, no, we're

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<v Speaker 3>not doing that. We're not doing any of that. Stop

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<v Speaker 3>with that snowflake stuff. Get to the office. We talk

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<v Speaker 3>about contrarians a lot. That is what Elon Musk is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this is part of the email that he wrote, which

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<v Speaker 3>is so hectic. He says, Tesla, what we are asking

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<v Speaker 3>for is less than what we ask of factory workers.

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<v Speaker 3>If there are particularly exceptional contributors for whom this is impossible,

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<v Speaker 3>our review and approve those exceptions directly. Moreover, the office

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<v Speaker 3>must be a main TESLA office, not a remote branch

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<v Speaker 3>unrelated to the job duties. For example, being responsible for

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<v Speaker 3>three month factory human relations but having an office in

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<v Speaker 3>another state. Thanks, Elon. This is hectic, and I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>if other corporations will follow suit and be like, wait

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<v Speaker 3>a second for a second, there, you guys are about

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<v Speaker 3>to unionize.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are about to have one up on us.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Elon's saying, we don't have to listen to you

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<v Speaker 3>come back to the office.

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<v Speaker 2>God, I don't know how I feel that work from

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<v Speaker 2>home versus not work from home. Tell me if I

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<v Speaker 2>think about them from negative perspectives, working from home you

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<v Speaker 2>can end up doing a lot more work because there's

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<v Speaker 2>no kind of like separation. Yes, and it can feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing that. I'm like, I'm not even working

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<v Speaker 2>that much. But you don't get the breaks of like

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<v Speaker 2>talking to your colleagues and like fire, the blood breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>During my time as an employee various businesses, that was

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<v Speaker 2>my role office joke stuff, and it's a very hard

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<v Speaker 2>one and everyone can do it. Yeah, I agree, get

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<v Speaker 2>your work done, piece everyone else off. Yeah, make them distracted. Whereas,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, if you work in an office

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<v Speaker 2>that is open plan surveillance, this is your biggest issue

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<v Speaker 2>with the whole surveillance. They're watching you, they're putting pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on you. But then the third thing, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>not many people are aware of, don't dunt dun is

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance on your work laptops. You don't like that it

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<v Speaker 2>is happening. They are looking at your key strokes. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think they are? Yeah, they're doing it. Yeah. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>Over the last two maybe three months, we've discussed a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of ways that people have gotten rich the unconventional way.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking selling bathwater, selling jarred fart, and somebody has

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<v Speaker 3>struck again missus fart jar seller Stephanie Meadow from ninety

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<v Speaker 3>Day Fiance has discovered a way to bottle up her

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<v Speaker 3>boob sweat and she's selling it for five hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate all of these. I love all of these.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like thinking about them makes me feel bad

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<v Speaker 2>and sick. Huh, I hate it? Which bit ew? What

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<v Speaker 2>are they doing with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Says the girl who farted into a microphone in a

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<v Speaker 3>room with no windows. You are on your high horse

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<v Speaker 3>about selling boob sweat tears.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the minute that it gets sinister. I'm happy for

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<v Speaker 2>my sister. This is hot and casual. Like if I

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<v Speaker 2>farted into the microphone and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Plan that, You said, should I find into the microsft

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<v Speaker 3>please don't say I think I'm gonna please know, And

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<v Speaker 3>then you stood up, you turned around, you bent forward

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<v Speaker 3>so your sphinx was right at the microphone, and you said,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's coming out. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>coming out. And then when I thought you were just

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<v Speaker 3>taking a bit too far, you farted. It's disgusting anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So Stephaniemadow is honestly just someone who's so diligent and

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<v Speaker 3>committed to making a bag. Because remember when she was

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<v Speaker 3>selling her farts in a jar, she actually got hospitalized

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<v Speaker 3>because she was taking stuff to like disrupt her tummy

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<v Speaker 3>to hopefully get more farts going. It's incredible, So shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to her. We love fellow women in business, we

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<v Speaker 3>love fellow entrepreneurs and whatever it takes. While Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 3>is saying that people have to commit to forty hours

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<v Speaker 3>minimum in the office, this person is making their own

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<v Speaker 3>bag by leveraging their own labor. Our socialist queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk could never couldn't never stick around because up next,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be talking about planes. It's the age

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<v Speaker 2>old chat about planes and etiquette. Jerry Seinfeld did it.

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<v Speaker 2>He did bits about it thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you're saying is your ideas are outdated, old

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<v Speaker 3>hat hack.

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