1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Through no over the weekend is that the Northern Territory 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: government had announced that there was going to be an 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: additional ten million dollars invested into the Northern Territory Police, 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Fire and Emergency Services. So it's a one off payment 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: which the government says recognizes the ongoing service and dedication 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: from the Northern Territory Police, Fire and Emergency Service members 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: who've worked tirelessly to keep the community safe during the 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen response. Now joining me on the line to 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit more about what this funding 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: is going to mean. From the Police Association, the President, 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Paul Mchue. 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: Good morning, Paul, very good morning Catie. 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: Paul. This ten million dollars, it's a funding boost obviously 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: announced by the Police Minister Nicole Madison on the weekend. 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: What does it mean and what's it for? 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, obviously you know police, you know eighteen months 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: or so has had a huge impact from COVID and 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: you know this additional funding is welcome. It will certainly 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: help keep the wheels turning so to speak, in a 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: very difficult time. I mean we've got police deployed the 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: wallparts of the territory as we speak. Trying to contain 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: this virus and help those communities. So that will cost money, 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: and you know, the general police budget it clearly is 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: not enough to do what they're being asked to do 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: at the moment, and this will just go somewhere towards 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: helping that. 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Paul talk us through how it is kind of working 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: for for our different you know, for our police force 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: in those different communities, because presumably there's been quite a 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: bit of work to be done in the likes of 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: Catherine Robinson, River Binjari, rock Hole and now La Jamano. 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, there's a huge amount of work being done 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: by the teams, you know, certainly including the management team. 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: We've got a management team down there in Katherine, We've 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: got the emergency operations center up here in Darwin. They're 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: all doing huge hours to I guess get their heads together. 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: And it's a very fluid situation as you know, and 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: and you know Katherine and Bnjari in those areas down 39 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: there have been restricted for some time. That all takes 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: additional resources out of Darwin to help with that. And 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: now we're seeing a similar response in La Jamanu, where 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: we've had up to nearly twenty police from our springs 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: be deployed over the last twenty four hours to boost 44 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: some resources there and obviously try and restrict movement in 45 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 2: and around that area. And they're working in some extreme 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: conditions forty degrees plus for the next week, and that 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: management team of certainly doing all they can in terms 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: of making sure that those members have got what they 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: want down there. 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: Well, we actually had a caller getting contact with us 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: last week and said that they'd gone through the roadblocks 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: in Queensland around COVID and then when they got into 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory they've done the same near Catherine and 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: they commented on the fact that the police are doing 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job, but the comparison to the infrastructure that 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: was in place in Queensland was very different to what 57 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: we've got here in the territory. 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the infrastructure is always an issue. I know when 59 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: COVID first kicked off March April last year and the 60 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: infrastructure by security points was fairly makeshift initially, and of 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: course we had the defense assisting and then you know, 62 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: slowly but surely there was some better infrastructure put in place, 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 2: but nothing permanent, disappointingly, and of course now we're seeing 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: a requirement for that again. But what I will say is, 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: you know, we raised some concerns with the department, you know, 66 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: last week around some of those roadblock areas around Capturing 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: last week, those rectification was made immediately. Certainly, some air 68 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: conditioned vans were put in place so those people get 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: those core temperatures down, and that's certainly our concern working 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: in that extreme hate. But certainly the infrastructure is a 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: big concern. And you know, while we got COVID around, 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: there's no doubt we're going to need those areas for 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: some time to come. 74 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Now, Paul, you know you've touched on the work that 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: obviously our police are doing in those different areas. We 76 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: know that the ad Force called into support as well 77 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: the week before early last week. Has that made much 78 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: of a difference and do you think that we are 79 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: going to need to see more of that in the future. 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I can't see any avoiding it, to be honest. 81 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: I mean they have certainly assisted again this time around. 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: The first time round we had obviously Australian Federal Police 83 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 2: as well as defense because quite frankly, the police force 84 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: here is very small in comparative to the size of 85 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: the area where we're trying to look after. And of 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: course day to day policing doesn't stop. The other requirements 87 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: for policing doesn't stop because we've got COVID here as 88 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: well now, so those resources are very finite. You know, 89 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: We've got lots and lots of situations now where sections 90 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: are strip bare to try and deal with this COVID situation. 91 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: So I cannot see in avoiding the federal assistance being 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: required again, whether that's through federal police or defense, to 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: be frank, it doesn't really matter. But certainly police in 94 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory don't have the numbers if the situation 95 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: continues to develop some of those communities, and obviously that's 96 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: the fear fear right now. 97 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: Well, and I would assume as well, as the country 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: opens up, and as in Northern Territory opens up as well, 99 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: that we are you know, that we are maybe going 100 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: to see more police or need to see more police 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: in different areas around the place. 102 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. And look, I'm absolutely certain the Commissioner 103 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: and his management team would be would be having those 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: considerations and those discussions at the federal level, and you know, 105 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: we certainly support any assistance, you know, through that avenue 106 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: because as I said, you know, as I said, we've 107 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: had twenty just in our springs in the last twenty 108 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: four hours, just about pulled out to go and help 109 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: in larger Mania and surrounding areas. Now, that obviously affects 110 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: the ability for our springs now to do it's core 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: policing down there, and you know that's not sustainable in 112 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: the long term, and certainly that there needs to be 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: some other assistance brought in for those offices. That is 114 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: a larger working some huge hours at the moment, Cadam 115 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: and they are working twelve hour shifts extreme weather, and 116 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: that is only sustainable for a very very short time, 117 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: not long, not in the lockdown. 118 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: So with these ten million dollars, is it going to 119 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: be invested to try and like to make sure that 120 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: we've got more people or more police on the ground. 121 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: How exactly is it going to work and kind of 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: come into play quite immediately. 123 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean, thankfully we've just had a graduation 124 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: twenty eight constables last Friday. We've got another squad of 125 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: constables graduating towards the end of December, so that'll be 126 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: nearly fifty or so extra boots on the ground which 127 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: are going to be absolutely needed over the Christmas New 128 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: Year period. And then that additional funding, we hope is 129 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: obviously going to be towards some additional infrastructure and logistical 130 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: requirements to try and keep those members safe in those 131 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: roadblock areas. And who knows, we may see biosecurity measures 132 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: come back in that will require additional resources and infrastructure, 133 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: and of course that money will naturally flow onto that, 134 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: but certainly any funding is necessary, and of course looking 135 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: into the coming year, so there's no doubt the NT 136 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: government will need to review that and look at boosting 137 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: that budget even further. 138 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: Well, Police Association President Paul McHugh, I always appreciate your time. 139 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having a chat with us 140 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: this morning and just sort of making us a bit 141 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: more aware of those different roles that our police are 142 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: doing at the moment. Good on, Thank you,