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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: Grace tame what a woman an advocate, an artist, to

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Speaker 2: comed in, an ultra marathon runner, an author and havevery

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Speaker 2: casual the twenty twenty one Australian of the Year. She's

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Speaker 2: about to hit the road with a new tour, Lightning

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Speaker 2: the Load with Grace Tamee. But before she does all

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Speaker 2: of that, she's joining us right here, right now. Hello, Grace,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Lightning the Load. Tell me what it means?

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Speaker 2: What are people going to have and feel and see? Well,

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Speaker 2: it was a.

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Speaker 1: Pretty hefty load that was in twenty twenty one out

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Speaker 1: of absolutely nowhere. Well, the idea behind the tour is

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Speaker 1: to really look back on the last three and a

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Speaker 1: half years and what that really bizarre jarring experience was

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Speaker 1: to be thrust out of obscurity and onto a massive

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Speaker 1: platform to talk about a really fraught subject matter without

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Speaker 1: any kind of run up and with very little guidebook.

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Speaker 2: Because you're right, we expected you to be able to

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Speaker 2: speak at the drop of a hat about the most

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Speaker 2: traumatic thing that's ever happened to you in your life

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Speaker 2: and just go yes, So tell us about that, Grace,

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Speaker 2: and this next interview ten minutes later, tell us about that.

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Speaker 2: Have you come out of this still as yourself or

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Speaker 2: if you had to put some sort of hard carapace

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Speaker 2: in place.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. I think that we're always evolving as individuals,

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Speaker 1: and that certainly had a huge impact on me, and

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Speaker 1: I think I'm still unpacking that in many ways. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting considering that the human brain doesn't really stop

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Speaker 1: developing until about age twenty five. And I stepped onto

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Speaker 1: that stage to accept that award one month after my

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth birthday, And I was there to accept the

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Speaker 1: award for my advocacy around child sexual abuse and my

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Speaker 1: own lived experience of that. And I had done a

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Speaker 1: lot of work unpacking it and understanding it and obviously

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Speaker 1: speaking publicly about it. But you can only do so

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Speaker 1: much of that with the neural architecture, with the toolkit

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Speaker 1: that you have, and you sort of have to wait

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Speaker 1: until you have a certain amount of time and distance

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Speaker 1: to reflect on some of those things. And so it

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Speaker 1: wasn't until I was under this massive spotlight, with all

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Speaker 1: of these eyes looking at me and all this media scrutiny,

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Speaker 1: that I was actually able to that I had the brain,

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Speaker 1: the adult brain, to do a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: Well as wisdom. You know, with age comes wisdom. Is

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Speaker 3: there anything that you look back on in the last

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Speaker 3: three few years do you say, do you think, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: I could have done that better? Because there was a

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Speaker 3: moment there where you were just in the news for

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Speaker 3: everything from the Side Eye to Scoma to Brittney Higgins.

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Speaker 3: It was just like you were everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh. Look, there were certainly mistakes that I made along

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Speaker 1: the way, and there will be many more mistakes that

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Speaker 1: I made. That's inherent in the experience of being a

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Speaker 1: human being, I think. But yeah, certainly as a twenty

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Speaker 1: six year old kid, definitely there were mistakes that I made.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at times, you know, I think that I

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Speaker 1: was well and probably understandably, quite reactive to that political

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Speaker 1: machine because you know, I was in survival mode. That's

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Speaker 1: that's how you you have to get through something like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the volume and the speed of the requests

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Speaker 1: and all of the commitments that we were having to

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Speaker 1: contend with was just it was unnatural at times. And

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Speaker 1: it's thankfully quiet and down a bit, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it was it was a steep learning curve.

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Speaker 3: Oh I bet, what's the strangest thing you've seen like

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Speaker 3: in your life in the media. What's the strangest thing

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Speaker 3: that you've seen, like fans of yours, because you've got

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Speaker 3: a lot of fans.

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Speaker 1: There is there is a person out in the wilderness.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they were in the wilderness, actually,

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Speaker 1: but there is a person out there who has my

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Speaker 1: face tattooed on their ass.

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Speaker 2: They don't have your ass tattooed on their face. You're

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Speaker 2: sure you got around the right way.

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Speaker 1: I have got that. I've seen photographic evidence on it.

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Speaker 3: And it is it a good likeness.

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Speaker 1: It's the it's the it's the image of my face

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Speaker 1: giving the side eye.

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Speaker 2: And with this person saying, look, how much of a

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Speaker 2: supporter of yours I am?

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Speaker 1: I think? I think so to put someone's face on

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Speaker 1: your ass?

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Speaker 3: And which way is the side? Which way is the

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Speaker 3: side eye directed?

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Speaker 2: Is I looking at the bump?

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Speaker 3: Is it looking to the middle, or is it looking

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Speaker 3: off to the the actual side.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to burrow into my I was just taken

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Speaker 1: back by the old.

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Speaker 2: Did you see it in the flesh or was it

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Speaker 2: a photograph you saw?

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Speaker 1: I have not seen it in the flesh. I have

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Speaker 1: not seen my own face on someone's cheek in the flesh.

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Speaker 3: Yet, oh, Grace, year is still young. I think you've

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Speaker 3: done extraordinary things in your short twenty six years.

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Speaker 2: And this happened twenty six was Australia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, this was three years ago.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was three years ago.

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Speaker 3: Hang on, that must make me fifty.

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Speaker 2: You have to updo your tat.

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Speaker 3: Grace. It's just so nice to meet you over zoom.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. You can get tickets to

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Speaker 3: Lightening the Load with Grace Tame at Faine dot com

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Speaker 3: dot a U backslash Grace Tame Grace. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. It's great to chat.

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Speaker 3: No worries,