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Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty.

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Speaker 1: It is just on seventeen minutes after nine o'clock. Now

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Speaker 1: it is looking as though the Catherine region has fared

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Speaker 1: a little better over the last couple of days than

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Speaker 1: what we'd prepared for, but nonetheless all eyes still on

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Speaker 1: the region as well. The river level continues to rise.

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Speaker 1: Adelaide River of course impacted quite severely with flooding and

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Speaker 1: the daily continuing to grapple with those high water levels.

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Speaker 1: It has been a tough time no matter where you live,

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Speaker 1: I think across the top end at the moment. Now

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Speaker 1: joining us on the show is the opposition leader, Selena

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Speaker 1: you Bo. Good morning to you, Selena.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, good morning. Tell your listeners.

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Speaker 3: Good to have you in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Now. I understand you have been out and about in

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Speaker 1: the communities over the last couple of days. Where have

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Speaker 1: you been and water residents telling.

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Speaker 2: You yeah, so, Katie.

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Speaker 4: On Friday we had the major part of the evacuation

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Speaker 4: for the Numboa community which is in my elector to

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Speaker 4: Varnham to Nightcliffe High School, but also some other alternative

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Speaker 4: accommodation arrangements which was still up very quick so I

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Speaker 4: was able to see some family there and everyone was

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Speaker 4: pretty tired. They've been at waiting at the airports at

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Speaker 4: six am that day. But the massive big hercules with

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Speaker 4: the ADF and the Spartan so like, there were some

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Speaker 4: pretty amazing pictures. But all reports from police, from volunteers

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Speaker 4: from the ADF that you know, community were in good spirits.

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Speaker 4: There were no issues, and you know, people were quite

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Speaker 4: concerned because originally we know that cyclone and morel tracking

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Speaker 4: big and angry. And thankfully she calmed down a little

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Speaker 4: bit in the golf because the golf can stir a

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Speaker 4: few of those cyclones up, Katie, as we know. And

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Speaker 4: then luckily, you know, all the preparations on Grood Island.

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Speaker 4: I was doing lots of calls to service providers and

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Speaker 4: go north of both of those two areas. Thankfully, there

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Speaker 4: was a lot of preparation on the coastline. There's some

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Speaker 4: really beautiful small homelands on the easternham coast, Katie Bunny

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Speaker 4: and those areas and Lana Point homelands did and evacuate

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Speaker 4: self evacuations about one hundred and eight people on small

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Speaker 4: charters because most of those airstrips aren't sealed.

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Speaker 2: They're all dirt airstrips.

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Speaker 4: But they pretty much did a mini mass evacuation of

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Speaker 4: But I sent her a message of thanks to the

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Speaker 4: CEO because there would have been a huge responsibility to

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Speaker 4: do that. But she said, lots of great support on

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Speaker 4: the ground.

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Speaker 3: That is good to hear.

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Speaker 1: Now I know with number one, it was being reported

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Speaker 4: Oh fantastic all weekend, Katie. I mean people were in

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Speaker 2: When can we go home? Yeah, I said, look, we

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Speaker 4: To wait for the weather. The main thing is everyone's safe.

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Speaker 4: And that was Number one, which I'm very grateful for.

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Speaker 4: I did message the Chief Minister last night just to

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Speaker 4: nice to be able to provide that confirmation.

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Speaker 2: So just telling people, but yeah, some.

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Speaker 4: People are staying with family as well as at the

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Speaker 4: there's about one hundred Numbois community members there and then

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Speaker 4: the elderly and vulnerable was staying at the Free Spirit

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they'll do over the next three days those

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Speaker 1: Oh I bet there are so many people looking forward

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Catherine, I mean we're unfortunately, of course the massive

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Speaker 4: So I want to remain constructive, Katie, as I've always said.

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Speaker 4: But the telecommunications, I think they've been able to enact

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Speaker 4: the message stick we had in COVID, you know, I

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Speaker 4: know people got a bit cranky. They will get all

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Speaker 4: that's happened this time now. I was informed last week

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Speaker 2: I think that's really positive.

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Speaker 4: In my community of Gappaiac, which I also represent as

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Speaker 4: the member for Arnham, they received text messages about eight

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Speaker 4: pm on Saturday night saying severe weather, stay indoors, bunker down,

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Speaker 2: Thankfully none on houses.

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Speaker 4: But took out a power line on one of the streets,

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Speaker 4: but majority of the community was safe, which was great.

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Speaker 4: think it's great that if the tool's there, let's use it, Katie,

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Speaker 4: Let's get people updated, because you know, I think particularly

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Speaker 2: Inside are on their phones on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Even for me, like sometimes you know, when the afternoon

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Speaker 3: You know, you're not.

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Speaker 1: Keeping as up to date. Like obviously it's my job too,

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Speaker 1: so it's a bit different. But you know, then you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, And there's almost.

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Speaker 4: I would go to say at least every household would

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Speaker 2: But in terms of you know.

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Speaker 4: Our rural mob our station mob our, Homeland's crew, our

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Speaker 4: I think most houses would have access to a phone,

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Speaker 4: to spread that message far and wide and in real time,

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Speaker 4: I think will really make a difference.

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Speaker 2: If that tool is enhanced.

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Speaker 4: We know it exists, but being able to activate it

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Speaker 1: Now it has been a bit of a puzzle at

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Speaker 1: the moment with all the flood evacuees. Daily River and

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Speaker 1: Palumpa residents are now at bachelor as I understand it,

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Speaker 1: is that a better option in your opinion than Fosky

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of the long term or unknown long

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Speaker 4: I was in Bachelor yesterday with Dryan Young, the member

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Speaker 4: being accommodated at the Bachelor outdoor Center. It's a lot

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Speaker 2: Used to live. So I walked in, I went, oh,

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Speaker 4: Reminds me of being a kid and doing those outdoor

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Speaker 2: But a lot of space, beautiful green space.

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Speaker 4: I understand from yesterday Daily River No, you community members

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Speaker 4: the great news for that, as I understand from Duran,

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Speaker 4: You know, they're not earning money while they're out of

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Speaker 2: They're moving in some extra support with the school and the.

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Speaker 4: Communities who are serviced by particularly in TG Health.

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Speaker 2: They've got their doctors and nurses that are going to be.

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Speaker 4: There, so the people that they see every week or

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Speaker 4: every fortnight in their community will be stationed that's doing

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Speaker 4: services in Bachelor's That'll take off the pressure for the

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Speaker 4: Bachelor clinic as well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I think that that sounds like a really

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Speaker 1: good plan. I mean, it has been a massive job

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Speaker 1: to get people to do and from those flood evacuated areas,

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Speaker 1: you know, by all accounts, it's been a massive job

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Speaker 1: from all involved. This morning, though it's being reported by

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Speaker 1: the ABC that Duran Young, the member for Daily, had

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Speaker 1: had no agency over their lives and this situation echoes

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Speaker 1: back to the days of the Stolen Generation. Do you

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Speaker 4: I was talking with Duran obviously a lot yesterday around

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Speaker 4: of course the Northern Territory Interpreter Service for our multicultural

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Speaker 1: But having Aboriginal interpreter services and not having that sign

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Speaker 1: language is very different from children being taken away from you. Though,

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Speaker 1: like that's a really it's a bit of an irresponsible

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Speaker 4: I would suggest it is a heavy comment and I'm

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Speaker 4: for him to speak to that particular comment, Katie. But

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Speaker 4: and being part of that process. Plumpa, for instance, they

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Speaker 4: our understanding, get that not enough criticisms to moving Feast.

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Speaker 4: I completely understand, but when people are moved around in displaced,

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Speaker 4: they're already quite you know, stressed out mentally and physically,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like that comment, it's you know, when you

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Speaker 3: Of all those residents.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it's a bit of a kick

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, Absolutely everyone's doing their best. There definitely is

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Speaker 4: the whole wish list is great, but that in my mind,

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Speaker 4: that hundred million is right.

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Speaker 4: So is it remedial? Is it proactive? Is it going

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Speaker 2: You know, we saw in cash and that is all.

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Speaker 3: I think, that's absolutely all fair enough.

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Speaker 1: I guess just to go back to it I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to speak for Durance comment. I think

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Speaker 4: that was something that he'll be able to speak to him,

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Speaker 3: Before I let you go. The petrol prices.

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Speaker 1: You and I have spoken about this on numerous occasions,

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Speaker 3: Look of it.

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Speaker 1: The terminal gate price today in Darwin, well, it is

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Speaker 3: Point four for diesel.

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Speaker 1: You go to the Bowser, the most expensive at the

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Speaker 1: Bowser today. This is just around Darwin, so I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine what it's like then when you go yeah Bush

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Speaker 1: two dollars ninety nine point eight. That is at Refuel

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Speaker 1: we're going to get over three bucks today, Katie.

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Speaker 4: The day two days before the Catherine floods, it was

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Speaker 2: I remember fueling up two days.

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Speaker 4: From and yeah, so you know a dollar crept up

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Speaker 4: a dollar in that and yeah, definitely bush prices are big.

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Speaker 4: I always look at rum and ginning as the most

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Speaker 4: three ninety nine. They're usually about three sixty three eighty,

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Speaker 4: so they've even jumped, you know, twenty forty cents up. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: Ali and Gaula on Grude Island, they're subsidized by the

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Speaker 4: mine that you save the cheapest fuel in the hole

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Speaker 4: of the Northern Territory. Back in the day it was

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Speaker 4: eighty cents a leader. It's gone up a dollar there

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Speaker 4: one forty seven today, so even that with the mine subsidy.

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Speaker 4: But across the island at Miliakbra that's unfortunately not subsidized,

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Speaker 4: but it's three fourteen. So that difference of where the

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Speaker 4: mine has been able to support the Grude Island residence

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Speaker 4: has been quite big. But unfortunately everyone's going to feel

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Speaker 4: at Katie, everyone around in all the territory, top end,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well look we will leave it there.

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Speaker 1: We're about to catch up with Steve from the original

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Speaker 1: Adelaide River Queen Jumping Crocodile Cruise to find.

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Speaker 3: Out how they're going at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they've had an influx of crocodiles as

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Speaker 1: well as with all that weather, selena Ubo. Always good

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Speaker 1: to catch up with you. I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Katie,