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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, all right to me when we're starting,

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Speaker 1: we have okay, ready for a book club?

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Speaker 2: Jones, Hello, hello, and welcome to our book club.

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Speaker 3: It's nice to see you here.

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Speaker 2: Nice to see you here again. In case you've just

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Speaker 2: joined us or you've forgotten since last time, Jonesy and

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Speaker 2: I host a book club that features only two books,

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Speaker 2: the books we ourselves written.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit up ourselves.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot way up ourselves. But today, children, I

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Speaker 2: thought i'd read from the bit where I joined the

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Speaker 2: Midday Show with Ray Martin. So I think in previous

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Speaker 2: ones I had had been a researcher at Simon Townsend's

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Speaker 2: Wonder World. Then I went on to be a segment

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Speaker 2: producer on the Midday Show when Ray Martin took over.

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Speaker 2: I remember Mike Walsherd had the show. Then Mike Walsh

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Speaker 2: went to do a tonight show and Ray took over

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Speaker 2: the Midday Show. He just left sixty minutes.

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Speaker 3: The Mike Walsh Tonight Show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but awkwardly that show didn't last, but Midday Show did.

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Speaker 2: With all right you ready, Everyone who worked on the

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Speaker 2: show instantly fell in love with Ray. He was charm

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Speaker 2: and warmth personified and an incredible professional. He read every

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Speaker 2: guest's book, he boned up on all the stories, and

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Speaker 2: were generally interested in everything and everyone. The midday show

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Speaker 2: covered a diverse range of topics, from the hard news

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Speaker 2: of social issues. A live audience and I put question

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Speaker 2: mark next to that was shipped into the studio from

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Speaker 2: various old people's homes around Sydney, and as they were

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Speaker 2: led to their seats, a dense cloud of Lily of

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Speaker 2: the Valley talcum powder would walk through the air. When

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Speaker 2: the band's musical director, Jeff Harvey started up the band,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't unusual amidst applause to hear the occasional ray

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Speaker 2: turn it down, it's too loud.

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Speaker 3: Ray did a dead ray.

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Speaker 2: One memorable day, a man with a catheter had an

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Speaker 2: unfortunate accident and and he was being interviewed and left

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Speaker 2: It's best. Another time, during an interview about emy Oyle,

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Speaker 2: Ray asked the audience if anyone had UW used to it,

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Speaker 2: and an old bloke up the back piped up whether

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Speaker 2: we used to rub it on the lou Brios, his words,

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Speaker 2: not mine, and I've said that generation doesn't get a

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Speaker 2: voice on TV anymore. Just as well. Funny that I

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Speaker 2: loved working on the Midday Show. No two days were

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Speaker 2: ever the same, and the adrenaline rush of an hour

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Speaker 2: and a half of live TV was intoxicating. One minute,

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Speaker 2: Ray would be inter being a group of ladies over

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Speaker 2: eighty who just completed their HSC. The next he'd be

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Speaker 2: talking to someone about how to perform a female orgasm

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Speaker 2: on a day like that. You didn't want to get

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Speaker 2: your questions.

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Speaker 3: Mixed up, and your role in this was You're the

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Speaker 3: guest booker.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Not the guest booker, the segment producer. So

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Speaker 2: I would I'd book a guest to come in. I

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Speaker 2: would research the segment and put all the video that

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Speaker 2: we needed with it, and write the questions for Ray.

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Speaker 2: The green room, as I say he was of the

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Speaker 2: Midday Show, where guests waited their turn to be interviewed,

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Speaker 2: was a fascinating place. A politician might be sitting side

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Speaker 2: by side with one who'd written a book about how

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Speaker 2: to hypnotize a cat. I crossed the room, there'd be

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Speaker 3: Are the sandwiches? They used to be good?

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Speaker 2: They were always the best bit. It was Ray who

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Speaker 2: first suggested I try a couple of stories in front

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Speaker 2: off I went to do film pieces on subjects including

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifties retro furniture, a man who kept an octopus

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Speaker 2: who dressed her cats like celebrities. Four corners were kicking themselves.

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Speaker 2: I got those scoops.

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Speaker 3: I've seen this, I've seen this.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen? The Catwoman's story, in particular, tickled my

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Speaker 2: fancy as she grabbed her pet's heads to secure dreadlocked

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Speaker 3: It's right.

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Speaker 2: I saw one of the stories that I presented on

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Speaker 2: the Midday Show on VHS recently, and I marveled at

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Speaker 2: how I ever got on television. I looked decidedly on roomed.

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Speaker 2: My hair was a strange tangled messed bed hair is

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Speaker 2: While introducing the story on set with Ray, I was

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Speaker 2: wearing an oversized man's jacket, complete with enormous shoulder pads,

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Speaker 2: bowling shoes. My earrings two brightly painted ping pong balls

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Speaker 2: waters spunk.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think you're very hard on yourself. I've

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Speaker 4: seen that, and I can see the true potential in you.

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Speaker 4: But I did like when Ray pushes you further about

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Speaker 4: where do you get these where do you get.

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Speaker 3: These fifties clothes from?

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Speaker 4: Or fifties it's furniture for you just looked at him

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Speaker 4: with this look of like, I don't know, mate, I've

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Speaker 4: done your story.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've done the story. I'm excited because I'm on

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Speaker 2: television and I've researched the one question I was hoping

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Speaker 4: But I think you can really see the talent, and

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Speaker 4: you can also I love the way you used to speak.

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Speaker 2: I sounded quite posh, like clancy from Kippi. I've been

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Speaker 2: more boganized since working with you.

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Speaker 3: I think you're welcome. Thank you, You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: So the highlight of my time on the Midday Show

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Speaker 2: was the opportunity to go to England to cover Prince

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Speaker 2: Andrew's wedding to Sarah Ferguson. The entire week's shows were

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Speaker 2: Westminster Abbey. We were on the bus, not them. I

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Speaker 2: know the rules are making cutbacks, but they could still

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Speaker 2: bug on a good wedding. Throughout the week I lined

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Speaker 2: up various guests to be interviewed by Ray. We had

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Speaker 2: English comedians, authors, commentators and Cliff Richard resplendent in a

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Speaker 3: Of course, I.

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Speaker 2: Also did a few stories to Cameron myself. Using a

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Speaker 2: Fergie's out of pallace pals with a plethora of double

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Speaker 2: and triple barreled names. We could barely squeeze ourselves into

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Speaker 2: a tiny pub that we chose for the filming. Sloan Ranges.

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Speaker 2: Remember that term that was the collective term for all

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Speaker 2: Tarquin Henderson's smythe taught me how to speak posh. Here

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Speaker 2: What's on your head?

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Speaker 5: Hair?

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Speaker 2: Where does a fox live? Lair?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Put it together?

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Speaker 4: Eh, hilaire, ah hellai, I'm speaking posh, speaking posh.

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Speaker 2: The coverage of the actual wedding itself was the most

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Speaker 2: extraordinary thing to be part of. Forget how the bride

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Speaker 2: was feeling all morning, It was our nerves and excitement

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Speaker 2: I have is of a makeup artist putting rescue remedy

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Speaker 2: under the tongue of our executive producer. It was that

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Speaker 2: Only Cliff Richard could do that.

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Speaker 4: So there was was there trouble with Fergie leading up

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Speaker 4: to that wedding. I remember she was a party girl

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Speaker 2: So refreshing, isn't she refreshing? I remember standing next to

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Speaker 2: love her. She's just so refreshing. Because you had Princess

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Speaker 2: we love it. Those rough edges ended up having their feets.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that attitude would have changed when the front page

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Speaker 3: The Texas boo there.

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Speaker 2: We didn't see that headline coming. So, as I've said here,

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Speaker 2: there we were with Ray and a swarm of famous

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Speaker 2: Rivers dropped by as she was being interviewed. I started

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Speaker 2: to see a man standing behind Ray holding up sheets

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Speaker 2: of cardboard with single lines on them that said things

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Speaker 2: was adopted. Joan was reading her punchline from prompt cards right, so.

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Speaker 3: She'd see the punchline and then she'd go instantly to the joke. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then that would be her out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: She's like you you speak well, you speaking punchlin well.

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Speaker 2: But just seeing someone hold up then my water's broken.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe that guy was having as strange as one

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I held up a sign saying

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Speaker 4: look what it's done to your own Nay, I.

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Speaker 3: Know the joke, you know exactly.

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Speaker 2: Dave Medna everage in full wedding mode, was raised guests

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Speaker 2: as the royal carriages made their way way past. It

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Speaker 2: was hilarious to see Princess Anne point at Dave Medner

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Speaker 2: and laugh. Princess Diana gave us a wave of Obviously,

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Speaker 2: covering such a huge television event is tricky. A number

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Speaker 2: of ads had to be placed somewhere without missing the

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Speaker 2: juicy bits of the ceremony. In a moment of here

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Speaker 2: goes Paul Melville, who was the executive producer, cut to

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Speaker 2: an ad for Kimby's Nappies. If I remember correctly, As

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Speaker 2: Andrew and Sarah signed the register, fair enough I thought, well,

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Speaker 2: don't holding pens isn't riveting. Kerry Packer thought otherwise and

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Speaker 2: picked up the phone. I don't think there was enough

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Speaker 3: So oh oh so good. Those were the days with

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Speaker 3: Kerry Packer.

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Speaker 2: It just be signing the register box.

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Speaker 3: That is such a great time. That is such a

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Speaker 4: My I guess when I first started working in radio,

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Speaker 4: I had to go to radio school.

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Speaker 2: What like today we have Australian Film and Television School.

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Speaker 2: What did you attend that.

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Speaker 4: Was around back then? I'm reading from my book chapter

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Speaker 4: six how I got into all of this? Are there

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Speaker 4: are a few radio courses around. There was, afters, the

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Speaker 4: Australian Film Television Radio School, but they weren't taking in

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Speaker 4: any new students. Then there was the Max Rolli Leadier Academy.

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Speaker 2: Max Roly famous Max Roli.

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Speaker 3: Max was a kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 4: He told you he'd been a voiceover guy for many

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Speaker 4: Ozzy TV shows, most notably the Norman Gunston Show. If

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Speaker 4: you heard an ad on the radio or the tally

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Speaker 4: advertising anything from eyeglasses to lawn knows, there was a

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Speaker 4: good chance Max had voiced it. The Max Rolly Media Academy,

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Speaker 4: as it was called, was in a very unacademy building.

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Speaker 4: It was a terrace house in what was a less

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Speaker 4: salubrious part of Redfern in nineteen eighty eight. These days

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Speaker 4: He looked at me and said, you're in front of it.

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Speaker 4: Then he added, are you one of the stars of Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know who that.

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Speaker 3: The lounge room had been converted into a mini.

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Speaker 3: Curiously.

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Speaker 4: There was a boom mic in front of him. I'd

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Speaker 3: Of his studios.

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Speaker 2: How old were you?

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Speaker 3: I was nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Max was very warm, a rotun sort of guy with

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Speaker 4: The ad started with him saying in a mollfulous voice,

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Speaker 3: My glasses, even though he had him right on his head.

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Speaker 4: He directed me into another room where there was another

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Speaker 3: There was a bunch of chairs facing a TV and video.

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Speaker 4: He had a video for us to watch which would

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Speaker 3: With him with the classes on his knocking.

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Speaker 3: There he is being the voice of dexter Am.

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Speaker 2: Sure it was Max.

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Speaker 3: There was Max?

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Speaker 2: Ma I don't think it was Max.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to google it right this second. He did

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Speaker 3: That's what he cashed, you know.

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Speaker 2: Let me see Keith Scott was Max was No, it

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Speaker 3: And the rich bits cheers.

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Speaker 2: Will Keith you helped that book?

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Speaker 3: He liked me.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe any other words in your book. Now

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Speaker 4: By the time you'd watched all this, it was pretty

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Speaker 2: It wasn't very useful for your own careats to watch

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Speaker 3: No, and the problem is with the tape. I went

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Speaker 2: Oh, so I didn't know when it was finishing.

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Speaker 3: Six or seven much were you paying for this?

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Speaker 4: It's thirty bucks a lesson. So I sat there and

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Speaker 4: I said, I've just been watching this.

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Speaker 4: Well, you can leave after you watched the first one.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to watch all this. So anyway, by

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Speaker 2: And you said you had to do a show.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So we went upstairs to see the studios after that,

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Speaker 3: There was a radio studio and a TV one.

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Speaker 4: I used the word studios loosely, and those are pretty

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Speaker 2: Come on, awful, Sure possible, Brendan.

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Speaker 4: In the radio studio, you had a mixed desk straight

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Speaker 4: The first thing I had to do after I'd handled

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Speaker 4: You had this pre written script that started with hello,

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Speaker 3: There was a new story.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if that was subliminal or not.

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Speaker 1: But my first show to credit card Max down what

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Speaker 3: He was the one that was paying for it. My

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Speaker 6: Bit like this you here, Oh yes, please, this is

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Speaker 3: My name is Brendan James, Miami.

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Speaker 6: Being here tonight is to improve my communication news happening

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Speaker 6: though now the news in detail. Academy graduates Rick Julien,

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Speaker 6: Greg Milne, Les Hart and Craig Dna, executives of the

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, you took your money and let you continue.

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Speaker 4: No, well you didn't get to read it. That's really cold,

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Speaker 2: Who I might be intrigued to hear it.

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Speaker 5: As he handed me my tape, even though I didn't

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Speaker 3: They go.

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Speaker 1: It's the best recording yet and the tape to Max

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Speaker 1: that he plays it back in front of the whole class.

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Speaker 3: Imagine sitting in a room with thirty people you've never.

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Speaker 2: Met and they heard you be like that. They must

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Speaker 4: And they're all doing like encouraging faces while you're doing it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I could set my face to the

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Speaker 3: At the end of it. The tape, Max records his

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Speaker 2: Do you think of this?

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Speaker 5: This is what he said, I'll do the voice, Brendan.

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Speaker 5: The depth in your voice is good, especially for nineteen.

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Speaker 5: You tend to read rather too carefully. You need to

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Speaker 3: So don't worry at thirty dollars.

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Speaker 4: Pace take you thirty bucks.

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Speaker 2: So did you ever get a job in radio? Have

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Speaker 4: You know, that's how it starts, That's how this business goes.

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Speaker 2: Astonished that you got to hear from there.

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Speaker 3: There you go. The kid was a genius, the kid.

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Speaker 3: But let's listen to it. This is my first radio program.

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Speaker 3: My name is Brendan Jones. Wow.

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Speaker 2: All right, well I'm going to have to go and

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Speaker 2: have a bottle of whiskey and nowt as hearing that

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Speaker 4: Join us next time as we peel back more layers

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Speaker 4: of our lives.

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Speaker 2: For another episode of Jonesy and Amanda's Holiday book Club.

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Speaker 2: I'm off to get drunk after that.