Speaker 1: Welcome back to TV Relo.
Speaker 2: This is my fifth bonus episode featuring a quick chat
Speaker 2: with I'm a celebrity's latest dejectee, singing sensation Paulinie. Australia
Speaker 2: fell in love with Paulini during her time on Australian
Speaker 2: Idol and over the years we have never let her
Speaker 2: forget some of those iconic hits and certainly not that
Speaker 2: gold dress. From there, this talented Ozzie took on the
Speaker 2: Australian music charts and had huge success, collaborating with a
Speaker 2: mix of her former Australian Idol alums with the band
Speaker 2: Young Divas.
Speaker 1: There certainly wasn't a club in town not playing their
Speaker 1: tracks and.
Speaker 2: I for one know all of the words not stopping there.
Speaker 2: Paulini wowed the country as Rachel Maron in the stage
Speaker 2: production of The Bodyguard, and I tell you what, there
Speaker 2: is a sexy, cool vibe with today's guest and an
Speaker 2: intelligence that goes beyond her years. Wearing her heart on
Speaker 2: her sleeve and offering a shot at a crayon to
Speaker 2: her camp mates, I'd like to welcome to the show
Speaker 2: Australia's favorite diva, Paulini.
Speaker 3: This industry is not only about your talent's.
Speaker 1: Pauline a light with Survivor.
Speaker 3: You just have to, you know, be confident in who
Speaker 3: you are and your talent reality singing, start a theatrical disa.
Speaker 3: I've got to remember that I'm still a real person
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, and that I've got
Speaker 3: to be true in myself.
Speaker 2: You should choose more appropriate clothes or shared some parents.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, did it really allowed me to share my stories?
Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, but I don't
Speaker 3: like myself. You know, there's a problem there.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, paul Annie, you are the people's clean of the jungle, sad, mad,
Speaker 2: angry or glad that you're out of jungle.
Speaker 4: I'm glad actually, thank you for that.
Speaker 2: Is there something quite powerful about the I'm a celebrity
Speaker 2: experience where in some way you're forced to look back
Speaker 2: on your life. Did things surface that you'd bury kind
Speaker 2: of deep inside?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. You know. One of
Speaker 4: the things that I struggled with was just being at.
Speaker 3: The downtime, sitting around, being in your thoughts, sitting with
Speaker 3: other people and trying to start conversations. And when you
Speaker 3: are in your head a lot you do think about
Speaker 3: things like that, and it was good and bad. You know,
Speaker 3: I struggled with it, but I also appreciated the moments,
Speaker 3: those moments where we chatted because it really allowed me
Speaker 3: to share my stories. And that was the beautiful thing
Speaker 3: about it is that, you know, you a little hesitant
Speaker 3: at first, You're like, oh, no, you know, what's everyone
Speaker 3: here to think about me if I do share this
Speaker 3: with them? But then as soon as everyone starts opening
Speaker 3: up about their own kind of experiences, you know, you
Speaker 3: start to let your walls down, you start to get
Speaker 3: comfortable with people. And I love that because I really
Speaker 3: wanted to share myself and I really wanted Australia to
Speaker 3: see who I was as a person.
Speaker 2: In some ways, it was quite heartbreaking to hear some
Speaker 2: of those stories of you know, bullying. How did those
Speaker 2: scars manifest or surface in your adult life?
Speaker 3: In my adult life, I didn't realize that some of
Speaker 3: the things that I was kind of manifesting we was
Speaker 3: from my childhood experiences, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You know, I just kind of thought, oh, well, this
Speaker 4: is this is how I am, and that's it. But
Speaker 4: it isn't, you know, It's things that.
Speaker 3: You kind of go through when you're a child, that
Speaker 3: kind of will make you into who you are as
Speaker 3: an adult, especially if you haven't taken the time to
Speaker 3: fix it.
Speaker 2: We can't be what we can't see, you know, has
Speaker 2: become such an important way for us to understand, you know,
Speaker 2: the way in which we watch television. I really think
Speaker 2: that we've come a long way with some parts of
Speaker 2: cultural diversity. Is there something more that we can do
Speaker 2: to make people feel more represented properly on screen?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, We've got to talk about these things. I think
Speaker 3: that's the key, you know, the keys like talking about
Speaker 3: it and not feeling ashamed to talk about it. And
Speaker 3: we have to have people who are on like, you know,
Speaker 3: people who are in our positions, you know, like you
Speaker 3: have a group of celebrities in the jungle in one
Speaker 3: place and on primetime TV.
Speaker 4: That is like the perfect setting to discuss these things,
Speaker 4: like that whole Black Lives Many thing happened. It really
Speaker 4: hit home for me and I bought that's a lot of.
Speaker 2: You know, celebrity is something of a difficult beast to
Speaker 2: navigate at the best of times. How have you learned
Speaker 2: to cope with, you know, the intrigue and fascination that
Speaker 2: we've had with you over the last twenty years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've I learned to cope with that. I've got
Speaker 3: to remember that I'm still a real person at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, and that I've got to be
Speaker 3: true in myself and always honor that, because at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, if I don't like myself, you know,
Speaker 3: there's a problem there. You really have to just keep
Speaker 3: it real with who you are and know who you
Speaker 3: are as a person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, can we get real for a second
Speaker 2: about something? And I'm so proud of you as a
Speaker 2: human with the way that you've handled yourself. We've all
Speaker 2: made mistakes in our life, but it's the way in
Speaker 2: which we own those mistakes that obviously shape our future.
Speaker 2: You've come out the other side of that, which is powerful.
Speaker 2: What sort of advice do you have for young people
Speaker 2: that might have been through the same thing.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is don't stay down there.
Speaker 3: You know, when people beat you down, do not stay
Speaker 3: down there. Pick yourself up and keep going. There's always
Speaker 3: a light at the other side.
Speaker 4: You just have to struggle a little bit to get there.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
Speaker 2: You know, it's been twenty years since Idle and do
Speaker 2: you think that Idle needs to learn from its mistakes,
Speaker 2: you know now that it's coming back. I mean, is
Speaker 2: there any format changes that you think that show needs
Speaker 2: to make when it resurfaces in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's an interesting question. See.
Speaker 3: What I loved about Idle, right is I loved that
Speaker 3: it was quite raw in its setting. So, I mean,
Speaker 3: you watch all of the shows now and there's a
Speaker 3: lot of things happening on stage. If you have downs
Speaker 3: is you have people flying across from them, the roof.
Speaker 4: And all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: And the one thing that I loved about Idol was
Speaker 3: the rawness of it, and I hope that they keep.
Speaker 1: That just as Australian Idol.
Speaker 3: We're in the Gangnet green room and I'm standing next
Speaker 3: to a woman who looks absolutely a million bucks Paulini.
Speaker 3: He looks fabulous on it.
Speaker 2: Hows it feel standing here hearing the crowd outside ready
Speaker 2: to go on?
Speaker 3: I'm just excited, you know, I mean, just looking at
Speaker 3: just hearing the crowd out there go off. I really
Speaker 3: do hope that they keep the warmness of the show.
Speaker 3: And I guess more about the contestants, you know, than
Speaker 3: like maybe the judges I don't know what I change
Speaker 3: about IDOL.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure whether maybe the only thing that they
Speaker 4: could change is.
Speaker 3: Make sure like check in on all of the contestants
Speaker 3: later on, you know, and just not sure everyone's okay mentally, physically,
Speaker 3: all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: What about those judges? Would you allow those judges to
Speaker 2: come back with you? Reckon we need new judges? Or
Speaker 2: would you like to see Mark Holden and Marshall Hines
Speaker 2: and Dicko back up there?
Speaker 4: You know what, It would be so funny. But like,
Speaker 4: I mean, it would be funny to get them back.
Speaker 4: But I feel like that would.
Speaker 3: Be awesome if it was the same judges, Like seriously,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: It would be hilarious. And you know, there's something about
Speaker 4: the three of them, Like I liked the three of them.
Speaker 4: It was a good group of people, you know, group
Speaker 4: of judges.
Speaker 3: Sorry, even though you know one of them totally criticized
Speaker 3: me about my goal just but still I love him.
Speaker 1: You know that moment has haunted you forever. It's like,
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 4: Like people will never let it go. I'm like, get
Speaker 4: over the gold dress? What's up with that? But you know,
Speaker 4: I get it. I get it. I totally understand why
Speaker 4: they keep going back.
Speaker 2: To that, My partner, we can't play a song from
Speaker 2: Young Divs without following it up, you know, by going
Speaker 2: into the city and having a dance. What was that
Speaker 2: experience like working with those girls who were ultimately experiencing
Speaker 2: the same kind of journey, you know, a new start.
Speaker 3: To the Yes, Oh, that experience was exciting, scary, shocking, everything, like.
Speaker 4: We you know, be like I was what I age? Did?
Speaker 3: I think I was twenty three when I when I
Speaker 3: was in the Divas and imagine the other girls were
Speaker 3: younger than me, so you know, it was like it
Speaker 3: was it was insane, like all of the different experiences
Speaker 3: that we had, and you know, and like you said,
Speaker 3: you know, it was the beginning of our career. So
Speaker 3: we were like so passionate and just wanted to get
Speaker 3: out there, wanted to perform, and we never thought in
Speaker 3: our wildest dreams that the Divas would be as big
Speaker 3: as it was. Like that just kind of happened overnight
Speaker 3: and we were like, what the.
Speaker 4: Earth is happening here?
Speaker 3: You know, it was it was that whole experience was great.
Speaker 3: I got us touring together and sometimes we would fight
Speaker 3: and then sometimes you know, it would all be like
Speaker 3: a happy family and then someone wouldn't turn up to
Speaker 3: an interview. It was insane.
Speaker 2: Are you still in contact with the girls? Like, would
Speaker 2: you ever come back and do it? Would you ever reunite?
Speaker 4: We've been that so many times. Look, I won't say no.
Speaker 3: To it, but like, I haven't seen any anyone, Like
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Ricky or M's or Kate.
Speaker 4: And yes, like we just I just haven't seen anyone lately.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, we try and keep in contact
Speaker 3: on social media, but that's about it really unless we're at.
Speaker 4: An event together. You know, we'll chat and sit down
Speaker 4: for a bit and have a.
Speaker 3: Drink, like and there's you know, there's been talk about
Speaker 3: like making a show out of it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you aren't the only one, you know.
Speaker 2: Just another thing was really interesting was in the show
Speaker 2: you were sort of talking about, you know, relationships, and
Speaker 2: you know, you were saying, at one point, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the relationships went bad. You know, did you
Speaker 2: ever imagine doing something like The Bachelorette? Because I think
Speaker 2: that show would be perfect for you. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: just plunking out there. I'm just putting it out there.
Speaker 4: Thanks Mab. Look, I won't say no to what I
Speaker 4: mean they I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Be dealing with any like kids here, no little no
Speaker 3: book is I just I don't have the time and
Speaker 3: I just need to find me a good man who
Speaker 3: has a good heart and has a job and is
Speaker 3: going to love me for me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So what about football players?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, yes.
Speaker 3: But they have to be like really like gentlemen, and
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of them out there.
Speaker 2: I'm subscribed. I'm just going to ring Channel ten now.
Speaker 2: Beth mccarvey, we found you a show getting back to
Speaker 2: ims levity just before I let you go. You know,
Speaker 2: the format had really changed. It really changed from you
Speaker 2: know the fact that COVID had affected it. But there
Speaker 2: was a nominations process where you had the chance to nominate.
Speaker 2: Could you say who you would have given one point
Speaker 2: to save and one point to evict?
Speaker 4: Oh? Oh dimn you asking me for names?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one point to say at one point to a
Speaker 2: vict Maybe Adam and Si so Adam and Simon for
Speaker 2: the evict And who would you give one point to
Speaker 2: say to say?
Speaker 4: I would probably go Jack.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you know he's kind of your bestie.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he and I were very close in there, So, yeah,
Speaker 3: who's going.
Speaker 1: To win this thing? By the way, I mean, really
Speaker 1: you should have a good idea at this stage.
Speaker 4: Look, I think I feel like in my spirit, I
Speaker 4: feel like it's either Jess or Grant. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 4: feel like.
Speaker 1: To be happy with either of those.
Speaker 4: To be honest, yes, I think so. I'll be happy
Speaker 4: with either of them too.
Speaker 3: You know, they're beautiful, there's such They're bloody awesome.
Speaker 1: Absolutely loved having this chat with you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this, but the last
Speaker 2: time I saw you, we were dragged to the bar
Speaker 2: by someone we both didn't know to have shots at
Speaker 2: the bar. I think it was tequila or Blacks and Booker.
Speaker 2: I can't wait really And then oh, it was at
Speaker 2: the Emerson in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: You just performed at like an.
Speaker 4: LGBT God, I remember, and we.
Speaker 1: Were standing at the bar.
Speaker 2: Neither of us had even spoken that evening, but to
Speaker 2: Yes sort of dragged us over and we were kind
Speaker 2: of like, hi, Hi, anyway, you did these shots, didn't
Speaker 2: flinch and I had these shots and looked like I
Speaker 2: was going to spew.
Speaker 1: And then the fact that you didn't flinch has made me.
Speaker 2: It sat with me because watching you drink those disgusting
Speaker 2: drinks and seeing your arm, they must have been pretty bad.
Speaker 3: Oh, trust me, like on TV doesn't look as bad
Speaker 3: as it was. Like the smell first of all, like
Speaker 3: that is that is a totally different thing to itself.
Speaker 3: Like that that smell was insane, Like I've never smelled
Speaker 3: anything like that in my life. And then to hear
Speaker 3: what these things are, it is, you know, revolting, and
Speaker 3: for it to like you see it and it's all
Speaker 3: mixed and mashed together and it's just like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: And there was I think the last drink that I
Speaker 4: had had like dog hairs on it. I was like,
Speaker 4: are you sicking serious?
Speaker 3: You're like that cannot be. You can't do that to
Speaker 3: a human being. How are you supposed to doubt like
Speaker 3: drink that you can't?
Speaker 4: You can't. But you know I did it. So I'm
Speaker 4: very proud of myself.
Speaker 2: Well you should be proud. You should be so proud
Speaker 2: of your time than he was so fantastic.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: I couldn't talk to you forever A conversations all experience.
Speaker 4: Oh I could I could too. I could see your
Speaker 4: a chat to you too. This is awesome.