Speaker 1: Well, well, well look what the cat dragged in.
Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to Two Doing Dads. I'm Maddie Jay,
Speaker 2: I'm Ash and this is a podcast all about parenting.
Speaker 2: It is the good, it is the bad and the relatable.
Speaker 2: If you come for advice, don't do it.
Speaker 1: Steer clear my child. I'm surprise.
Speaker 2: I remember that youtip really well.
Speaker 1: I had to I forgot it. I had to do it.
Speaker 1: Laura did it most of the time. Good to have you back.
Speaker 2: It's hey, it's great to be here. It's going to
Speaker 2: be back.
Speaker 1: I know you're back.
Speaker 2: It's weird to look at you. It's weird to see you.
Speaker 1: I've quite enjoyed looking at your wife came out wrong.
Speaker 1: I've quite enjoyed recording with her.
Speaker 2: I heard it was fun. I haven't listened to any episodes.
Speaker 2: You probably won't either, good, but from what I've.
Speaker 1: Talked about you a lot, so you probably shouldn't, no doubt.
Speaker 2: But the people were people. Laura was happy. People were happy.
Speaker 2: I've heard rave reviews. Rave even think there was a
Speaker 2: little comment review on upper podcast and they're like, h
Speaker 2: and Laura a great and I was like, shut.
Speaker 1: Up, we're starting a new podcast. Me and Laura, you
Speaker 1: wish to doting parents.
Speaker 2: You're stuck with me, I know, but it is good
Speaker 2: to have you back.
Speaker 1: We're here for a reason.
Speaker 2: What's that we're here.
Speaker 1: We're all dying to know the ins and outs of
Speaker 1: you masturbating in the jungle.
Speaker 2: So many, so many questions.
Speaker 1: Even people that I like see on the street, they're like,
Speaker 1: did he do it? Did he did he masturbate? Okay,
Speaker 1: my mom is like did you did?
Speaker 2: I'm like, Ellie, you're hurting me.
Speaker 1: Should tell me, Just tell me.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's a pretty traumatic experience, not masturbating
Speaker 2: the jungle as a whole. It was. It was a lot.
Speaker 2: And on on the weekend, we caught up with some
Speaker 2: friends on the beach and they're like, how was it, dude,
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was about to unpack the
Speaker 2: last five weeks. I was like, you know what, it
Speaker 2: was one of the hardest. And they're like, anyway, great,
Speaker 2: good to see me. Dude walked off and I was like,
Speaker 2: people don't realize how hard it is in there.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that goes into it. I guess, like
Speaker 1: I'm guessing.
Speaker 2: It's fucking it is hell. It is hell ash. I've
Speaker 2: been to Helen back.
Speaker 1: Okay, you took it upon yourself to do a call
Speaker 1: out to see what people wanted to know. So we're
Speaker 1: going to run through some of that.
Speaker 2: We're going to save the Wayne question till the end.
Speaker 3: That's going to be like the financing to edge, you guys,
Speaker 3: right until the end of the episode.
Speaker 1: So much sexual talk and these already were already. The
Speaker 1: jungle has a hole. You said that as a whole,
Speaker 1: so it like has a hole. Welcome back.
Speaker 2: You're just I'm like, hey, how are you and you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: Hays in bed bed is where you have sex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been edging, just nothing but edging.
Speaker 2: I can't say anything on this podcast without you turning
Speaker 2: it into smart.
Speaker 1: Well, you haven't been here for six weeks, Yeah we did.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of questions.
Speaker 1: We did you put your put out?
Speaker 2: And this is cleansing for me. I haven't had a
Speaker 2: proper debrief.
Speaker 1: Well, you were just saying you were going to unpack it,
Speaker 1: and then people are like, yeah, of course, sorry dude,
Speaker 1: and you walk up today, we're going to unpack it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need this.
Speaker 1: Let's just kick it off straight away.
Speaker 2: So I'm wanking in the jungle.
Speaker 1: So you wanking in the jungle looking at your beds.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with a couple of easy ones.
Speaker 1: Let me start. Let me start what's with the what's
Speaker 1: happening with the beard? First of all, if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen Matt on socials, which you should have seen him
Speaker 1: by now.
Speaker 3: He today he's trimmed it up, and you can say, rugged,
Speaker 3: you were very I walked.
Speaker 1: In the other day and you were like you was
Speaker 1: like me, it was like it was the day you
Speaker 1: got home.
Speaker 2: I had a couple of like shruggly bits. I always
Speaker 2: thought beards would grow. I've never had a beard this long,
Speaker 2: so this is new territory for me. But yeah, the beard.
Speaker 2: You have some hairs that they're growing twice the rate
Speaker 2: of the other hairs. It's a lot of hard work.
Speaker 1: You've done it all right.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't got a haircut. And I said to Chris
Speaker 2: the hairdress and I said, Chris, get rid of the beard.
Speaker 2: And he's like, I love it, dude. And Laura was like,
Speaker 2: can't fucking wait for that beard to come off. So
Speaker 2: when I came home, she was like, what why is
Speaker 2: it still there? Manicured it and I was like, Chris
Speaker 2: didn't want it to come off because his head looks
Speaker 2: so good. So I've kept the beard. I don't know
Speaker 2: how long for I don't know. I just feel, I feel.
Speaker 1: So he trimmed it up for you. He trimmed it
Speaker 1: did He did your top lip too. You could set
Speaker 1: your watch to that. He is fucking straight.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, look at it, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: As a man who wears a mustache all the time,
Speaker 1: I cannot trim mind properly. I just don't know how
Speaker 1: to do it. I don't know. Well, I'm growing it
Speaker 1: at the moment.
Speaker 2: You need to see, Chris, I wanted to hang.
Speaker 1: Right down like a walrus.
Speaker 2: Disgusting. How does April kiss you?
Speaker 1: She doesn't.
Speaker 2: Well, Laura wants it gone because she hates it. It's
Speaker 2: so itchy, Yeah, so itchy. My kids are like dad.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are pretty negative on the beer.
Speaker 2: People were like, you don't look like you don't look
Speaker 2: like you've even had a shower yet. It's so discussed,
Speaker 2: and that's all that matters for the bid. For now,
Speaker 2: we'll stay at least another week. It's going to stay.
Speaker 1: Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, rattle away, guys, before we
Speaker 1: do continue, Thank you for everyone who did write in question.
Speaker 2: Shut up and ask questions.
Speaker 1: Who snored the loudest?
Speaker 2: Actually not many people snored in the jungle. I picked
Speaker 2: a bed. Actually I didn't pick my bed. I there
Speaker 2: was one bed left. I was like the last person
Speaker 2: in camp, and because I got split into two teams,
Speaker 2: and I walked in there and I was told by
Speaker 2: a few people, don't get a bed that's too close
Speaker 2: to the fire because it's very smoky.
Speaker 1: Ash as you don't want to come out of there
Speaker 1: with them forthema, which I think I did.
Speaker 2: But I looked around meeting people. I'm shaking hands and
Speaker 2: I'm looking around being like, God, like, what what beds
Speaker 2: are left? Because everyone already put their backpack on the beds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a classic way to reserve something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a school camp. And I'm like talking
Speaker 2: to someone filling to Dave Fughes, and I'm like scanning
Speaker 2: over his shoulder, being like, oh fuck, there's no beds left.
Speaker 2: Only bed left was next to Sam Thirday, big guy,
Speaker 2: one of your heroes. But he's he's hope doesn't mind
Speaker 2: me saying this. He's like one hundred and third kilos.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's not. He's not small guy.
Speaker 2: He's a big boy. And you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to judge him, but I did think he would be
Speaker 2: someone who would snore. And I sat next to him
Speaker 2: first night and I'm like, do you snare and he's like.
Speaker 1: Yep, like a chainsaw.
Speaker 2: Thankfully, he wasn't too bad. He was actually very quiet.
Speaker 2: But the biggest snorer was Sigared Thornton. Siggi man the
Speaker 2: smallest in the camp, and she was like a freight
Speaker 2: train every night and she'd fall asleep pretty quick. Also,
Speaker 2: so you know, you're trying to get to sleep and
Speaker 2: like the animal's allowed and then Siggi's just like and
Speaker 2: she was consistent every night. She would once she started like,
Speaker 2: oh I can't stand all night all night. Thankfully she
Speaker 2: was on the other side of the camp, so I
Speaker 2: think she was next to Hughsy, next to Harrison, but
Speaker 2: I could still it would keep me awake.
Speaker 1: And like with the sleeping, do you do you is
Speaker 1: it like prison where they're like lights out everyone has
Speaker 1: to go to sleep or is it you just go
Speaker 1: to sleep when you want to go.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, there's it's crazy. They have massive studio lights
Speaker 2: like up and rigged up into the.
Speaker 1: Trees and so it's not just all day like natural life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so as soon as it kind of gets dark,
Speaker 2: we kind of knew that it would get dark around
Speaker 2: six thirty and they would turn those lights on, so
Speaker 2: we don't have there's no no, one has no time.
Speaker 2: So we would know that, like when the lights would
Speaker 2: go on, it'd be around six thirty and we'll be
Speaker 2: like that lights on secret and then once you stop talking,
Speaker 2: they would then turn the lights off. But you had lanterns,
Speaker 2: so you would ever be like, all right, everyone shut up.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I was next to Sam and Reggie and you know,
Speaker 2: we're pretty we're pretty quiet in that corner. Weird as
Speaker 2: well that the three of us made it to the
Speaker 2: final three in that corner. Apparently that corner suspicious producers did.
Speaker 2: They said that that corner has been responsible for a
Speaker 2: lot of winners, like Miguel slept over. There good corner
Speaker 2: to be in. But there were times when other people
Speaker 2: giggling all night, and in my head I was like,
Speaker 2: shut the fuck. They wouldn't because they wuldn't have the
Speaker 2: lights off until everyone stopped talking. So normally they would
Speaker 2: give it five minutes. Once the last person would stop
Speaker 2: talking and then then the lights off animals allowed.
Speaker 4: The first animals there. Yeah, dude, there was like the
Speaker 4: owl said, the owls can confirm I was. People are like,
Speaker 4: aren't you on the Gold Coast?
Speaker 1: No, because they'd be like, well, that's where the English
Speaker 1: one is filmed, in Molenbar, but which is like just
Speaker 1: off the highway. Yeah, it was just like straight off.
Speaker 1: I could just imagine a guy there with like an
Speaker 1: animal noise playlists like time owls. He was like, wake
Speaker 1: up at the morning.
Speaker 2: But that's what it was. An hour after the lights
Speaker 2: would go off. Did these be these two owls and
Speaker 2: one would go and then the other one on the
Speaker 2: other side would go, oh, classic mating call, and they
Speaker 2: would do that.
Speaker 1: That's what that is all night, all night.
Speaker 2: And then the crickets are so loud, so I reckon
Speaker 2: worse than the socicadas. Dude. The cicadas would go all night.
Speaker 1: There that a break.
Speaker 2: Welcome to my world, man, they have SCADAs on night shift.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So the first few nights I think I was getting
Speaker 2: about I must have been getting a couple of I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't get into a deep sleep until like the
Speaker 2: last week, I didn't have any dreams. I wasn't dreaming
Speaker 2: in the jungle.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that would suck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the moment it would get a little
Speaker 2: bit bright. Yeah, monkeys, monkeys are going like over the
Speaker 2: tree tops, over the canopy.
Speaker 1: The monkey song would come out of the playlist monkeys.
Speaker 2: That we'd have.
Speaker 4: We'd have ten monkeys, like over see him a lot, right, Yeah, dude,
Speaker 4: look up.
Speaker 2: And you got monkey's being like, hey man, you're like.
Speaker 1: Shut up, and we'll get chet on by a monkey. Uh.
Speaker 2: No ship, no ship by monkeys, thankfully. But there was
Speaker 2: We haven't had this confirmed, but I'm pretty sure there
Speaker 2: was three ranges that are always patrolling the outside of
Speaker 2: the jungle, like where your camp is, to make sure
Speaker 2: that the baboons, because baboons are dangerous. They got huge
Speaker 2: apparently bigger canines than a lion.
Speaker 1: Also, their assholes are disgusting.
Speaker 2: Ash please come on, Well, I just can't look at
Speaker 2: a bat boon that these ones. The assholes were great.
Speaker 1: Apparently they were innies from.
Speaker 3: What I heard.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you always have ranges patrolling. But we had, dude,
Speaker 2: we had I had like a scorpion in my heart.
Speaker 2: We had a spitting cobra in the in the like
Speaker 2: one of the interview rooms planted though. They're pretty venomous,
Speaker 2: they're pretty dangerous.
Speaker 1: You can pull the scenemen out of them and then no,
Speaker 1: that's a vent amount of them.
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you? You can jack them off?
Speaker 1: Just made me jerking off a snake. Sorry, Jess, I
Speaker 1: don't want to look just in the eyes right now.
Speaker 1: I just said, imagine me, jerkys.
Speaker 2: We would wake up, we would wake up and the
Speaker 2: baboons would be there, and you're like assholes, like nothing
Speaker 2: I've ever seen before.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, let's get back on track there. They only
Speaker 1: found this out today to dark days Friday Saturday, which
Speaker 1: is they don't it's not televised, no, no, but they
Speaker 1: would pull stuff from that. What are you? What do
Speaker 1: you do in those days? They're long days, long days.
Speaker 2: There were tough times. You got about. There's about one
Speaker 2: hundred or so cameras, so they're always filming you. One
Speaker 2: hundred cameras always filming you. Yeah, there's always cameras are
Speaker 2: always rolling as always people watching from the camp maybe
Speaker 2: a kilometer away. There's a house, pretty big house, and
Speaker 2: it's where like Mission control is what they would call it.
Speaker 2: They will always be there, so there's always people watching,
Speaker 2: always produced, you know, because you never know when something's
Speaker 2: gonna happen. Yeh, that's interesting. But we don't have there's
Speaker 2: no Robin Julie, there's no trials, there's no it'd be
Speaker 2: the longest two days, dude, it's it's it was hell.
Speaker 1: We had.
Speaker 2: The best thing we had was a waterfall that we
Speaker 2: could walk to and we go for a swim of
Speaker 2: the waterfall and we kind of knew that the walk,
Speaker 2: the swim, the walk back take up like an hour.
Speaker 1: How many times would you do that today?
Speaker 2: So then, but the hard thing was we had no
Speaker 2: energy because we was so hungry, and it was a
Speaker 2: hard walk.
Speaker 1: Oh it wasn't like, oh, it's just there, because we'd
Speaker 1: have to we'd have to make it look like that
Speaker 1: just by the way, like it's just there. It was.
Speaker 2: It was like it was like summoning Everest.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was hard, and so some people were
Speaker 2: like there were times when people go, I cannot do
Speaker 2: that walk, Like I don't think I can make it
Speaker 2: because people are so hungry, and it was like almost
Speaker 2: forty degrees during the day. But we would do. Hughsey
Speaker 2: was always up for the walk, so Hughgy would always
Speaker 2: like rally the troops and be like, come on, we
Speaker 2: need to get some sn Harrison was always keen. Reggie
Speaker 2: was like, I can't, I can't, I cannot see. So
Speaker 2: we would do that. A's sometimes we do it twice
Speaker 2: in a day, and other than that, we would just
Speaker 2: sit there, man, sit there. And one game we will
Speaker 2: play quite a bit, would be you say a celebrity okay,
Speaker 2: and then the first letter of their last name. I
Speaker 2: would have to say a celebrity name and.
Speaker 1: It just rolls, and we would do that great car game,
Speaker 1: Great great Roger game, that one.
Speaker 2: And I would I would often sit there by the
Speaker 2: creek and I would look at the rocks and I
Speaker 2: would look for faces in the rocks. And I would
Speaker 2: do that for a couple of hours.
Speaker 1: And it's like you had like a Wilson well sne.
Speaker 2: It was you were starved. People. They always say going in.
Speaker 2: Everyone who I spoke to d done the show was
Speaker 2: like the boredom is so hard to manage, and it
Speaker 2: was like it was like undescribable what it's like.
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: We would we would look for insects, and if we
Speaker 2: saw a couple of ants, we'd watch the ants for
Speaker 2: an hour.
Speaker 1: Do you watch the fuck? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So you just okay, go again.
Speaker 2: But we would we would get the food was always
Speaker 2: the same every day of the week. You always get
Speaker 2: five spoonfuls of porridge for breakfast, get about five spoonfuls
Speaker 2: of rice, a couple of beans, couple we got a
Speaker 2: few beans. You get that same munch for dinner. But
Speaker 2: then on the dark days, depending on how many stars
Speaker 2: you got on the Thursday, that would roll over to
Speaker 2: the Friday and the Saturday, right the challenges. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: on the Thursdays, everyone was like, hey, no pressure, but
Speaker 2: this is going to determine how much food we get
Speaker 2: for the next like three nights. So let's try and
Speaker 2: get a couple of stars. But they were like, on
Speaker 2: we would get better meals on a Friday Saturday, it
Speaker 2: wasn't as like rustic. So one of the nights we
Speaker 2: got hamburgers.
Speaker 1: I did see a lot of like food advertisements on
Speaker 1: this show, and then I saw like there was a
Speaker 1: Hello Fresh day, there was a Brownie Day, and like,
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna come back and put on waite.
Speaker 2: We had one brownie.
Speaker 1: We stretched it out for three days of TV. We
Speaker 1: would have.
Speaker 2: Drunk our own piss for a Tim Tam did you yes?
Speaker 1: Did you drink your own piss? I was so thirsty,
Speaker 1: so they must provide your fresh water and ship like
Speaker 1: the whole You get fresh water, You get fresh Sorry
Speaker 1: you're out of water, but you're gonna die.
Speaker 2: But I remember, I remember like one time we got
Speaker 2: a little bit of hot chocolate and I can't remember
Speaker 2: what the challenge was, but we won a little bit
Speaker 2: of hot chocolate, and people it was like, we just
Speaker 2: want a ferrari. People were losing our shit with just
Speaker 2: any bit of flavor because the food just was so bland.
Speaker 1: It must be exciting, you know, like when you even
Speaker 1: when you're just hear and you're like so busy and
Speaker 1: you never don't get a chance to eat, and then
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you get like something so good. You're like, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was trapped in the jungle for thirty days, bro, And
Speaker 2: you're trying to compare that to being hungry at home?
Speaker 1: Is yeah? Is that that's it?
Speaker 2: You think being trapped in the I losing eight kilos
Speaker 2: over thirty days is the same as you being hungry
Speaker 2: on an afternoon at home and worry wood. Yeah, oh
Speaker 2: it's on part. It's so close scorpion steak.
Speaker 1: It was more that I just wanted to elaborate how
Speaker 1: good that feeling is when you just like get that
Speaker 1: one thing. I'm not trying to diminish it. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Did you actually, because there's a question here about washing
Speaker 1: your clothes, do you wash your clothes in that creek too?
Speaker 1: Or they've given you we.
Speaker 2: We had like you washing up there, We had you
Speaker 2: only get two shirts to single it, two pairs of shorts.
Speaker 2: You're allowed to bring in five pairs of hondies or
Speaker 2: six pairs of hondies. You get two pairs of socks,
Speaker 2: and we have a sink down by the creek where
Speaker 2: you do you're washing up after you cook, that same
Speaker 2: sink you then do for your washing. But I would
Speaker 2: normally I would wear a shirt for like five days straight.
Speaker 2: I think I washed my socks once. I kind of
Speaker 2: wore my socks, wow, for like ten days.
Speaker 1: Did anyone have any like weird washing routines, like someone
Speaker 1: who had to wash all their shit every day, like
Speaker 1: an April per se, which is like, oh, good wash,
Speaker 1: I've got to make a load of washing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everyone because it sounds stupid. But to
Speaker 2: ring out your t shirt like you do that, you
Speaker 2: do one shirt and you'd have to sit down for
Speaker 2: ten minutes because you're exhausted. Oh right right, it's like
Speaker 2: the energy required to wash your clothes. People just avoided
Speaker 2: it because it was non critical. Everyone smelt like crap.
Speaker 2: You know, the campfire. We were given a toiletries bag
Speaker 2: and so in that you had a natural deodorant roll on, hate,
Speaker 2: roll on. You have pretty basic toothpaste tasted like nothing,
Speaker 2: so you never felt like you even had clean teeth.
Speaker 2: You have a brush, you have noil clippers, you have
Speaker 2: insect spray, and that was and then yeah, that was
Speaker 2: that's about it. That was all you had. Oh sunscreen
Speaker 2: as well, yeah it's going to be safe, you'd be sunsafe.
Speaker 2: And that was That was all you had in your
Speaker 2: toiletries bag.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 2: But I don't think. I mean, the only thing obviously
Speaker 2: everyone would shower.
Speaker 1: It was the shower sta like a communal so we.
Speaker 2: Would all get hosed down in the morning by Robin
Speaker 2: Julia and then they'd be like, get out of bed.
Speaker 1: You have, Billy, somehow you've made the jungle stink.
Speaker 2: Down by the creek by the gym if you can
Speaker 2: recall if you can wood the wooden gym, the wooden gym.
Speaker 2: So just in the in the around the corner behind
Speaker 2: a tree was the showers. I'm having weird like PTSD
Speaker 2: right now, Yeah, all right, And then I would not
Speaker 2: sometimes you would just shower during the day just.
Speaker 3: To do something just for the like coold shower culture
Speaker 3: cold shower, and because it's like so fucking hot and
Speaker 3: so it was kind of so hot on the Gold Coaster.
Speaker 2: But but I I showered in DTS for the first
Speaker 2: couple of nights, got.
Speaker 3: Your cock out after that, and then I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, this is hard work, you know, and also
Speaker 3: you don't feel as clean.
Speaker 2: But there's you know, there's like four cameras somewhere out there.
Speaker 1: There is footage of one many with his cockout in
Speaker 1: the jungle.
Speaker 2: And then as well, when you shower naked, you turn
Speaker 2: around in the cameras and then for the four cameras
Speaker 2: were like.
Speaker 1: They'd all be on you and for you that is
Speaker 1: zoom writing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so someone whoever's doing night shift. Normally I
Speaker 2: would be like the second last of shower Naked, and
Speaker 2: then Sam thought I would always follow up and he'd
Speaker 2: shower naked.
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, perfect, Yeah, I'm going to have to Hey, Jess,
Speaker 1: can we just send any emounts to Channel ten please
Speaker 1: we get that footage? That'd be great. Speaking about producers,
Speaker 1: how often are you communicating with the producer?
Speaker 2: So they have a speakers a bit like Big Brother,
Speaker 2: where if you would sleep in too long, for example,
Speaker 2: they would have to say, hey, guys, you got to
Speaker 2: wake up, like the day is starting.
Speaker 1: That sucks.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 2: And then if they're like they would kind of say, hey,
Speaker 2: your rations are there. There's a it's called a top TALKI.
Speaker 2: It's where you do your interviews. So they would say,
Speaker 2: you talk your rations in the top talkie. If there
Speaker 2: was anything like anything that really likes. So once time
Speaker 2: we had a snake in camp, and so they would say,
Speaker 2: everyone go into your campsite with a fireplaces stay there
Speaker 2: because we're having someone remove a snake. And then when
Speaker 2: they would come in to like someday for example, like
Speaker 2: it was one afternoon, they had to do some maintenance
Speaker 2: on the campsite, and they were like, you cannot talk
Speaker 2: to any of the crew. You cannot say anything to them.
Speaker 2: Don't acknowledge them. If you did acknowledge them, they would
Speaker 2: ignore you. And then the only kind of interaction you
Speaker 2: would have if you weren't doing a trial. I think
Speaker 2: you thought it around four point thirty, but they would
Speaker 2: send you out to have your battery changed in your
Speaker 2: mic pack, so you have your necklace connected to a
Speaker 2: mic pack that you wore as a belt. And but
Speaker 2: when you did that change, you'd be like, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: Hawaii nothing nothing. You'd be like, what do you have
Speaker 2: for lunch? Would n answer. None of the crew wore watches,
Speaker 2: so they always want to make sure that you have
Speaker 2: no idea what the time is. And even you when
Speaker 2: you go on a trial, you would like run out
Speaker 2: down the tunnel. You would then get met by a producer.
Speaker 2: Once you left camp, you get blindfolded. So when you walk,
Speaker 2: we say we're walking together. You'd be in front of me,
Speaker 2: You're being led by a producer. I have my hand
Speaker 2: on your backpack. They would walk you to a car
Speaker 2: still blindfold drive you to the trial, and they get
Speaker 2: your blindfold taken off once you're in the trial area
Speaker 2: in front of Robin Julia, and then once you finish
Speaker 2: the trial, blindfold on back to camp.
Speaker 1: It sounds like my worst night mare. Yeah, so then,
Speaker 1: and also, but I'm so impatient too. I just could
Speaker 1: not take that.
Speaker 2: It's weird how quickly you acclimatized. The first few days,
Speaker 2: I was like, I cannot, this is hell. And then
Speaker 2: it's weird you just become institutionalized. But then it was
Speaker 2: weird coming out and everyone pretty much like all the
Speaker 2: crew and like the final six we all flew back
Speaker 2: at the same time, and a lot of the crew
Speaker 2: from Sydney, and so it was weird. There was one lady,
Speaker 2: her name was Anita. Shout out Anita. She would always
Speaker 2: blindfold me for the trials, and then she was sitting
Speaker 2: next to me on the flight. She was like, hey, dude,
Speaker 2: this is But it was so weird to have her
Speaker 2: smile at me and talk to me and asked me
Speaker 2: a question. I was like, you were do you like me?
Speaker 1: I would be I would be that person that's just like,
Speaker 1: I wonder if this person likes me or not. I
Speaker 1: would be like, they don't. They definitely don't even know.
Speaker 2: It was their fucking job, but there was I always
Speaker 2: when you're in the top talkie doing interviews, there was
Speaker 2: normally like one producer he would do most of the
Speaker 2: interviews with, and mine was someone who like even though
Speaker 2: I didn't I wasn't seeing him face to face, like
Speaker 2: it's still talking about like pretty you're crying.
Speaker 1: Day day four, one day.
Speaker 2: Day day four, I was like keeping to myself, and
Speaker 2: they're always watching you, and they always they're also aware
Speaker 2: of like this is They've done eleven seasons, so they
Speaker 2: know the telltale signs when people are struggling. And one
Speaker 2: day before I kind of didn't really speak to anyone.
Speaker 2: I kind of ate breakfast by myself. I did like
Speaker 2: washing it by I was Matt time, and then they
Speaker 2: called me I kind of over the speaker, They say, Mac,
Speaker 2: can you come in and have a chat. And it
Speaker 2: was like after having a really bad day at school
Speaker 2: and you finally get home and your parents go how
Speaker 2: was your day, and you just let it all out.
Speaker 2: I literally I sat down and he said are you
Speaker 2: doing okay? And I just lost it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 2: The trigger words and and you know, like in my
Speaker 2: head I was like I remember bo Ryan left two
Speaker 2: weeks after two weeks and I thought to myself, I
Speaker 2: can't believe he quit. And then on day four, I
Speaker 2: was like, I think I'm going to quit.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like how close do you think you got to quitting?
Speaker 2: Every part of me was like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be here and I can't stay here, and this is
Speaker 2: going to like it's not for me.
Speaker 1: You would have regretted it though, and I knew Laura
Speaker 1: would kill me. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm safer here.
Speaker 2: But also I thought to myself, look, I'm just going
Speaker 2: to I'm going to get to the end of the day.
Speaker 2: And it was always you had dinner was always the
Speaker 2: biggest meal, and you always felt so much better after
Speaker 2: you had a full stomach because the breakfast of lunch
Speaker 2: didn't even touch the sides. Yeah, So I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get to dinner. And then once you
Speaker 2: get to dinner, it's a pretty it's pretty quick to
Speaker 2: have a shower, you get ready for bed, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just going to do one one more
Speaker 2: day and see how I feel in the morning. And
Speaker 2: the morning you wake up and you feel okay. And
Speaker 2: then I always thought I'm just going to make it
Speaker 2: to like one week and then two weeks so I
Speaker 2: but yeah, the guy my producer, when I was struggling,
Speaker 2: he was like, you're doing a great job, like you know,
Speaker 2: hanging there. And so when I saw him in person,
Speaker 2: I was like, you saved me. He's like, get off me.
Speaker 1: Oh, these these contestants are clinging literally very good. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move right. First part of this question, were you
Speaker 1: in Africa?
Speaker 2: Can confirm did go to Africa?
Speaker 1: Okay? If I asked for passport stands, you'd be able
Speaker 1: to produce that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't. I can.
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe you, and the listener should believe you too. Yes.
Speaker 1: And then the other one is like does it feel
Speaker 1: like you're the jungle? You're saying there's big lights and
Speaker 1: cameras and are they small camp? Will just give us
Speaker 1: a breakdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that little security cameras all like threw out.
Speaker 1: And then do they make a conscious effort to hide
Speaker 1: them or not? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're kind of not super hidden. They
Speaker 2: they're very much blended into the environment. And then in
Speaker 2: the camp, the main camp with the fireplace and the
Speaker 2: beds are there's maybe around the camp there's like.
Speaker 1: Six proper like big big boppers.
Speaker 2: The ones you'd see like if you're doing the news,
Speaker 2: like those type of cameras, but they were like like
Speaker 2: up on big stands, but they were manned by cameramen.
Speaker 2: But they they had black screens that would just be
Speaker 2: this black screen up in this area and the camera
Speaker 2: would just poke out here.
Speaker 1: We talk about boring fucking jobs. Oh my.
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes they'd be like, it'll be like, ha, there
Speaker 2: you are, but that must be such a boring job.
Speaker 2: Such a boring job. I don't know how they do it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they've got like beds that they're
Speaker 2: lying down but standing up. I don't know. It's long
Speaker 2: shifts of just listening to us talk about food, because
Speaker 2: that's pretty much what we talked to eating. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: but sometimes like I think one of them tripped and
Speaker 2: like fell take that. But there was one night when
Speaker 2: we're trying to sleep and one of the cameramen was
Speaker 2: doing this.
Speaker 1: And we were like, can you shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: We're trying to sleep.
Speaker 1: Equivalent of your neighbors having a party. The cops are
Speaker 1: on their way, but you you.
Speaker 2: Forget, you totally forget, like you I mean, there was
Speaker 2: there was one camera above me and Reggie and when
Speaker 2: it rained, we kind of saw there is a canopy
Speaker 2: above you, so if it rains, you're slightly protected. The
Speaker 2: outer beds might get a little bit wet, but this
Speaker 2: camera was just outside of that protective canopy, and it
Speaker 2: would get rained on and when it would go to swivel,
Speaker 2: it go like get stuck it and me and Reggie
Speaker 2: would be like, I would be like, good morning, reg
Speaker 2: how are you feeling? And then the camera got That
Speaker 2: was the only time we know we noticed the camera.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the people, Yes, if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to talk about the people
Speaker 1: because I had to sit back and watch you have
Speaker 1: a bromance with Harrison. But anyway, let's see what the
Speaker 1: listener thought.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: By the way, is that was that time I want
Speaker 1: to talk about it? I'm fine, Harris said, he's.
Speaker 3: Upstairs if he comes downstairss upstairs right now, he's in
Speaker 3: bed your bed? Yeah, that Laura left and he cooched
Speaker 3: on and I saw him on his moped on your story.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, sorry about that. I forgot to mute you
Speaker 2: hide you from viewing my stories.
Speaker 1: If he was on like a Harley Davison or something.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's pretty cool. He's on like some
Speaker 1: shitty best.
Speaker 2: Why do you hate Harrison?
Speaker 1: I don't. Okay, So who did you unexpectedly Who did
Speaker 1: you unexpectedly connect with? March?
Speaker 2: Do you know who I was hoping I was going
Speaker 2: to connect with and I feel like it happened. I
Speaker 2: feel like it happened. Maybe it was one sided, maybe
Speaker 2: he hated it, but I felt like we connected.
Speaker 1: Who Husey? Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: I remember I thought he might be in the camp
Speaker 2: and I was like, hughes he is so rich, that's
Speaker 2: surely he doesn't need to be in armous celeb liked
Speaker 2: Apparently they'd been asking him for a while and he
Speaker 2: was like, no, I can't be stuffed. Yeah, but but
Speaker 2: I was very star struck when I saw Hughesy.
Speaker 1: Really yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember talking to him and I was very much
Speaker 2: I was very aware of who I was talking to,
Speaker 2: and I was like, say the right thing. You've met
Speaker 2: him before, though only really briefly done his radio show,
Speaker 2: so it's a quick five minute chat.
Speaker 1: So he had you as a guest.
Speaker 2: I was a guest.
Speaker 1: But doesn't that point if you ask me, you're the
Speaker 1: sort after guests.
Speaker 2: He plays tennis with Russell Crowe. That's that's the kind
Speaker 2: of guy.
Speaker 1: They can't imagine Russell croping very good.
Speaker 2: I thought that that's what you takeaway. He's so unfit.
Speaker 1: They're your words, maybe Gladiator Russell.
Speaker 2: Because Hughesy was always down for the waterfall and.
Speaker 1: They really played that up on TV too. Meeting was
Speaker 1: a real freak. They're real nature freak. He's like in
Speaker 1: the fucking it was.
Speaker 2: It was intense. We would go down there to worship
Speaker 2: the sun. We would worship the sun and we were
Speaker 2: and Hughsey would be he would give us like life
Speaker 2: lessons from Husey. He'd be like, remember, guys, it's all
Speaker 2: about forgetting about what weighs you down. You've got to
Speaker 2: be happy as we're standing there in the waterfall like
Speaker 2: absorbing the sun.
Speaker 1: It was like it was to be part of a cult.
Speaker 1: Now what's happening?
Speaker 2: We almost had a mass suicide from Hughsey was like
Speaker 2: should we and we're like, we'll do it best season ever.
Speaker 2: But husually, I hope that we're I hope we're still friends.
Speaker 2: We're not going to hear this, he's not listening to
Speaker 2: We'll get them on the podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll try try our very hard. As the experience changed
Speaker 1: your perspective on life at all, yeah, he did for
Speaker 1: how long?
Speaker 2: Annoyingly coming out of the jungle, you slot back into
Speaker 2: your normal routine very quickly.
Speaker 1: I would, I'd be like straight away, like true scroll.
Speaker 2: I remember coming out and I thought to myself, I
Speaker 2: don't even need my phone. I had my phone back
Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't even need it. And
Speaker 2: then and then I plugged it in and it turned
Speaker 2: on and I was like, I'll have a quick look
Speaker 2: four hours later.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, when you opened it up, you didn't have
Speaker 1: a beard. Yeah, I shaved freshly shave. Oh my phones.
Speaker 2: But it does. In the you're in the thick of
Speaker 2: the jungle experience. You know things like a flushing toilet.
Speaker 2: You know things like a fridge. You know, to be
Speaker 2: able to just order in food and have it delivered
Speaker 2: to your house. Those things when you're starving thirty days
Speaker 2: every single day, those are little things you appreciate so much.
Speaker 2: And then I'm going to sound you know, a bit
Speaker 2: cheesy here, as you would have seen my reunion a
Speaker 2: little bit emotional. I was missing the family quite a bit.
Speaker 2: It makes you appreciate your family. You're you're starved of
Speaker 2: all your luxury items. You're starved, you know, electricity and
Speaker 2: warm water and food and all that. But then you're
Speaker 2: also you're so starved of any connection with your family,
Speaker 2: you know. And then I remember when those the letters came.
Speaker 2: We get a letter, I think it was maybe twenty day,
Speaker 2: three weeks in and like, I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: ever had a letter that's made you cry, like for me,
Speaker 2: I never have. I've never had a letter where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm hanging on to every word.
Speaker 1: I got a citation from the RSL Club once that
Speaker 1: maybe it was for a lifetime ban. I'm still upset
Speaker 1: about it. So yeah, I get it. I know what
Speaker 1: you mean.
Speaker 2: But you know, when you have all you have to
Speaker 2: connect with your family is an a four piece of
Speaker 2: paper with a few words, and you read that letter
Speaker 2: ten times a day, every day, and you know you
Speaker 2: would do anything just for that, you know, a little
Speaker 2: bit more contact with your family, and then you get
Speaker 2: out you.
Speaker 1: Like, beat it. I can imagine like you did, you
Speaker 1: you probably would have done a lot of like soul searching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to change this about my life. It's like
Speaker 1: when you're really hungover, you're like, I'm going to change
Speaker 1: so much about myself and then you have a good sleep,
Speaker 1: like you know what, I'm perfectly fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were We got one of my luxury items
Speaker 2: that I brought in was the paint set and it
Speaker 2: had some pencils and there was some you know, everyone
Speaker 2: had a few moments where they would then sit down
Speaker 2: by themselves and they were kind of write their thoughts
Speaker 2: and I kind of the best way I could treat
Speaker 2: the experience in my mind to keep going was just
Speaker 2: saying to myself, this is a really intense health retreat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time, and this is just like this is
Speaker 1: like rehab essentially. It was.
Speaker 2: It was that so I hope, I hope. My My
Speaker 2: big takeaway from being in there was like spending more
Speaker 2: engaged one on one time with kids, being in the moment.
Speaker 1: Have you been trying to practice it more?
Speaker 2: Very hard?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It is hard, very hard. It is hard when
Speaker 1: you don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: Even this morning, like getting the kids out the door
Speaker 2: and you're like, I love your kids so much and
Speaker 2: I've missed you so much.
Speaker 1: But there's nothing like being slapped in the face by
Speaker 1: reality that he is like young children. They don't give
Speaker 1: a like for one day they're like, Oh, it's so
Speaker 1: good to be daddy, to be home, and then they're like,
Speaker 1: app cut it up. I've set the skin off. The
Speaker 1: other day when I came over and it was like
Speaker 1: Lola was like I'm hungry, and You're like, okay, what
Speaker 1: would you like?
Speaker 2: Like, wow, I forget how hard it is to parent
Speaker 2: when you're trying to do nothing but give your children
Speaker 2: a really fun experience, like on the weekends, like you're
Speaker 2: take them to the beach, you pack up all your equipment,
Speaker 2: you go down there. You're five minutes in and they're
Speaker 2: like treating like you just drag them to the depths
Speaker 2: of hell. And you're like you're on BONDI Beach right
Speaker 2: now and it's a twenty five degree day, the sun
Speaker 2: is out. I've got snacks, I've got towels, I've got
Speaker 2: everything you could ever need. And you're like on the
Speaker 2: floor having a tantrum.
Speaker 1: It's the word.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to like transport back to where I
Speaker 2: was in the jungle, being like I missed my kids.
Speaker 2: I love them so hard, like.
Speaker 1: Sitting there looking for faces in the rock. Yeah, like yesterday.
Speaker 1: I was like, let's go, let's go to the park.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the park. And he's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go to the park. Yeah, get in the car.
Speaker 1: They both fell asleep in the car on the short
Speaker 1: trip to the park. Got to the park and we're
Speaker 1: at the parking. I don't want to go to the park,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we do this for you.
Speaker 2: It's like parenting. I forgot how hard. The one thing
Speaker 2: the Jungle did is made me forget how hard parenting.
Speaker 1: You're not as parenting fit because oh no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: like awful. I mean, let's talk about challenges really quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we spoke about food that you were given, but what
Speaker 1: food that you had to eat didn't make you sick.
Speaker 2: I were in the moment when we got all the
Speaker 2: all the Stars, and because I was still buzzing off
Speaker 2: the fact that my last challenge the basketball one. Sorry
Speaker 2: about making you watch my attempts at basketball. That was hard, hard,
Speaker 2: It was really hard. I wouldn't I wanted to redeem myself.
Speaker 2: I wanted to come back a hero. So I was
Speaker 2: so happy that we got all the Stars. And it
Speaker 2: wasn't until we were blindfolded walking back to camp that
Speaker 2: it was that off sour milk because it's just like
Speaker 2: off milk. Oh, and we live streamed it and I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I was. I was projectile vomiting like
Speaker 2: the whole way back to camp. I got back into camp.
Speaker 2: I then vomited again when I was in camp.
Speaker 1: Did I give you anything for that or not?
Speaker 2: You just just like they kind of said, there's always
Speaker 2: a medic on call, and the medic is just like
Speaker 2: just drinks and water.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not like with poisoned. Yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: One time I was like I feel dizzy, and they
Speaker 2: gave me a bit of attention, like they were like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is kind of serious. And I thought about pretending
Speaker 2: to be even dizzier to get food. Yes, but I did.
Speaker 2: I didn't. It's like.
Speaker 1: That's such a thing kids do. Yeah, I got like
Speaker 1: this all this bit of attention.
Speaker 2: It's like all I had one time was a sore
Speaker 2: throat from like the yelling and the smoke, and I
Speaker 2: got a lozenger and like save.
Speaker 1: Like a sugar free You're like, so you did spew up?
Speaker 1: Did anyone like just quickly did anyone get actually sick?
Speaker 1: Like not just like food sick, but like because it's
Speaker 1: like if you don't have if you're not taking in
Speaker 1: the sustenance. Yeah, but we're not.
Speaker 2: You know, we're not got no contact with anybody else.
Speaker 2: Read you go a little bit sick that no one
Speaker 2: really got that unwell, no we were.
Speaker 1: You are in like a bubble. Yeah, a bubble any
Speaker 1: like quarantine a little bit before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no gems in the jungle. Someone a fact,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Someone did say there was where
Speaker 2: the creek round through. Someone was like, that water is
Speaker 2: pretty clean, right, you could just drink it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if it is. And they
Speaker 2: were about to drink it and it's it's just all
Speaker 2: pit usually would be in the water. We found out
Speaker 2: later Hughesy would piss in the water.
Speaker 1: For give it. He's a vegan, he doesn't drink. It's
Speaker 1: probably good for you safe to say, we know who
Speaker 1: you missed the most. That'd be me. If you're looking back,
Speaker 1: what was your favorite memory, what's your favorite part of
Speaker 1: the experience.
Speaker 2: I've got to say I've got to say that fam
Speaker 2: coming in and just just for because people are like
Speaker 2: you would have known the family were coming.
Speaker 1: In if that's that deep into the earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like I've watched parts of the show before,
Speaker 2: so you know that Top three had the ring in
Speaker 2: with the family, but it was a Thursday that we
Speaker 2: went from five to three. I thought the family coming
Speaker 2: in might be like in a couple of days, like
Speaker 2: on the Saturday maybe, but they split us up. They
Speaker 2: kind of said, Sam, we had to do when we're
Speaker 2: top three. They said, we're going to take some photos
Speaker 2: because you guys are Top three, just so you know.
Speaker 2: And they at this point production are like a bit
Speaker 2: more relaxed at this stage.
Speaker 1: They're on the home stretch as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw a cameraman with a watch and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, oh my god. At the
Speaker 3: time shackles are listening. I don't know how to read that.
Speaker 2: And then they said we'll take some individual shots. So
Speaker 2: Sam and Reggie left and they said, Matt, just sit
Speaker 2: on the just sit on like the bed, and we'll
Speaker 2: just you know, just just have a think about some
Speaker 2: of your favorite memories. We just get a couple of
Speaker 2: pensive shots and this is over the speaker and I
Speaker 2: was like, okay. So I was like looking at the
Speaker 2: fire and I honestly did not expect Laura they were coming.
Speaker 1: At that point.
Speaker 2: I had no idea at all. So when they were like, daddy, fuck,
Speaker 2: I've watched it back and it's a lot.
Speaker 1: May I cried. Yeah yeah, I was like, oh fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah. A few people were like, oh fuck, come on,
Speaker 2: bro ham it up for the cameras, but even Laura
Speaker 2: at the time was like like pull it together.
Speaker 1: I was like, I caught myself crying and I was.
Speaker 2: Like it was it was a lot. So that was
Speaker 2: That was my favorite moment. And then we did a
Speaker 2: challenge where we had to we were dancing as a
Speaker 2: scientist go doing the Chinese whispering oh yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: you forget how good music.
Speaker 1: Is, Like, oh true.
Speaker 2: We had no music, and so we had this really
Speaker 2: crappy like German eighties techno song that was Right's Free
Speaker 2: being played and I don't know if you guys heard
Speaker 2: it when you're watching it, but we were just dancing
Speaker 2: to that and like that was just for a moment,
Speaker 2: just yeah, I turned around. Everyone's you know I think
Speaker 2: I like, as I ran down the line, I like
Speaker 2: was grinding Reggie.
Speaker 1: She would have laughed at are right?
Speaker 2: Actually funny moment with Reggie when we would walk to
Speaker 2: the waterfall, I would often take a hand. I would
Speaker 2: like chaperone her, help her because she can't see if
Speaker 2: anyone who doesn't know, she's only got about ten percent
Speaker 2: of a vision left. And one time I forgot to say,
Speaker 2: there's a rock in front of you, and she hit
Speaker 2: the rock and she was about to fall over. I'm
Speaker 2: holding her hand and she goes to grab something. Oh no,
Speaker 2: and she grabs my penis. She grabs my penis so tightly,
Speaker 2: and that is what like steadies her.
Speaker 1: And I'm like.
Speaker 2: And she's like, hang on, is that your penis?
Speaker 1: That's her move for sure. It's like you our people
Speaker 1: stop short in the car. She's like, let me grab
Speaker 1: your cock. I've already got it. I've already got it.
Speaker 2: And I didn't want to say yeah. I want to
Speaker 2: make sure that she's okay, so I didn't react. I
Speaker 2: didn't flinch.
Speaker 1: She gets up as you guys, congratulations, that'll be fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: It's a lucky woman.
Speaker 2: And then and so often whenever we like walk to
Speaker 2: the waterfall, after that, she's like, you're gonna put me
Speaker 2: into another rock. I'd like push him into a intrigue, just.
Speaker 1: Get some action, all right? Post show, you're back. We're
Speaker 1: happy you're back. You were happy you made it in
Speaker 1: one piece. So were the listeners. So we did have
Speaker 1: a lot of questions, Matt about your relationship with a
Speaker 1: daughter of yours by the name of Vlola. Who who
Speaker 1: Marley is the eldest, Lola is the youngest. Who Lola,
Speaker 1: before you left, you weren't her favorite person.
Speaker 2: I was posted this video. I did a I did
Speaker 2: a video of what it was like when I said
Speaker 2: goodbye to the kids. Marley was hysterical. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: like explaining to them that I'm going to be gone
Speaker 2: for a long time. Marley's in tears. Lola was literally
Speaker 2: like shut the fuck up. She was like yeah, she
Speaker 2: didn't care at all. And then when I saw Laura
Speaker 2: we get reunited, She's like, Lola's really been missing you,
Speaker 2: And I was like, has she really? But after we
Speaker 2: left the jungle, the Top six, they're all staying at
Speaker 2: a lodge outside of the camp and their family's there.
Speaker 2: Lola was like locked on to me, locked onto me
Speaker 2: and would like wouldn't like I had to give her
Speaker 2: a bath, like brush your teeth, get addressed, things that
Speaker 2: back home. Normally she'd be like, do not touch me,
Speaker 2: get away from me. And May didn't give a shit.
Speaker 2: Marley was like, hey, man walked off. We'reas low. Were like,
Speaker 2: couldn't it enough for me?
Speaker 1: She missed her pin cushion. That's what it is. You're
Speaker 1: like a pin cushion where she's like and she didn't
Speaker 1: have that. When I was talking to Laura the whole time,
Speaker 1: like in the records, when you were gone, she was like,
Speaker 1: she was like, Lola just like has no one to hate,
Speaker 1: like like it was so weird, but.
Speaker 2: Then it was for the record as well. The business
Speaker 2: class seat flight a couple of crap from Life on
Speaker 2: cut listeners for the record. For the record, Laura had
Speaker 2: that seat ten of the twelve hours of the flight.
Speaker 2: I gave up my seat to Laura, so I sat
Speaker 2: there with Lola.
Speaker 1: Oh, the story's changing.
Speaker 2: So we're in premium. Marley's a sleep in one seat.
Speaker 2: We're in the middle row. Laura was in the middle
Speaker 2: arm on the outer She slept in my arms that
Speaker 2: whole time. Remember sound like a hero. That sound like
Speaker 2: a hero. Anyone would have done the same thing. But
Speaker 2: normally I remember thinking wondering what it would be like
Speaker 2: to have Lola sleep in your arms, because it was
Speaker 2: always Laura and it happened for the first time and
Speaker 2: I was like, this is amazing. It's starting to rub off. Now.
Speaker 2: This morning she woke up, Laura was out the door
Speaker 2: and Lola was like, you, where's mom? And I was like,
Speaker 2: she's gone for work and she was like, oh.
Speaker 1: God, yeah, it just ruins their day immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's starting to rub off. But for the
Speaker 2: first week back, it's been pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. Oh, I'm happy. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get an update. A question that was on everyone's mind,
Speaker 1: junk jacks, did you get one away?
Speaker 2: Look, I don't want to talk about it, Yes you do. Okay,
Speaker 2: people don't want to hear about this part of the
Speaker 2: jungle experience. It's it's a bit crass, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Just cover your ears?
Speaker 2: This is a lot of information. I can't. Okay, let
Speaker 2: me take my pants off in the jungle. It's weird.
Speaker 2: That's switch of like being horny is gone.
Speaker 1: I was not going to say, it's right there.
Speaker 2: You everyone like speaking to the other boys and no
Speaker 2: sex drive, zero sex drive. The last thing you're thinking
Speaker 2: about maybe because your body's just trying to hold onto
Speaker 2: like every last drop of nutrients that to expel any
Speaker 2: semen would be so detrimental, so your body is like
Speaker 2: it's not thinking about it.
Speaker 1: At all, So you're forced one out.
Speaker 2: And so we were talking about, you know, early days,
Speaker 2: like who's going to have a jungle jack, and people
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, we might have a jungle jack. And
Speaker 2: then like after the first week, everyone's like, actually, there's
Speaker 2: no way I could even even if I wanted to,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to jungle jack.
Speaker 1: Okay, do they know who they're dealing with.
Speaker 2: So maybe I wasn't sleeping that well, Okay, it would
Speaker 2: It would take me normally like an hour to get
Speaker 2: to sleep. And I was also up really early as well.
Speaker 2: I'd lay in bed trying to get back to sleep,
Speaker 2: and that's exhausting. It's you know, you want to get
Speaker 2: to sleep, and then as well, you know, you got
Speaker 2: you got the animals to deal with cigarettes, you know,
Speaker 2: you want to try and get to sleep before she
Speaker 2: starts snoring like a freight train. So one night, this
Speaker 2: is maybe like three weeks in, I'm tossing and turning,
Speaker 2: not like that.
Speaker 1: That was quick.
Speaker 2: Everyone's asleep. I kind of like sit up in bed
Speaker 2: and because you have lanterns, he can dimly lit, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, everyone's sleeping. I'm not gonna I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do it. The only the only place where there
Speaker 2: is no cameras is in the toilets. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: part of me, there's literally two voices in my head.
Speaker 2: One is saying, let's just go to go to the toilets.
Speaker 2: Do it. Let's just do it. It'll help you get
Speaker 2: to sleep. And then the other voice is like, that's disgusting,
Speaker 2: don't don't do it. And then I'm like, I'll try
Speaker 2: and get back to sleep. Try off another like what
Speaker 2: felt like ten twenty minutes, I'm wide away. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know what, it's nature's sleeping pill. So I go
Speaker 2: over to the make my way, put my boots on,
Speaker 2: make my way down to the long drop, get into
Speaker 2: the long drop. Yes, it's like, oh man, we would
Speaker 2: change the toilets. There was a massive bucket underneath the
Speaker 2: long drop and we would change it every morning. So
Speaker 2: it's been a forty degree day full of shit. You're
Speaker 2: in there. It smells like shit, you know, And I'm
Speaker 2: looking at my penis, which is the size of a walnut,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh god, come on, buddy, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like it's it does not want to get up
Speaker 2: at all. I'm like, come.
Speaker 1: Give me something, trying to bring some.
Speaker 2: Life into this guy. And you know, I'm in there
Speaker 2: in my modesty, smock, in this modesty in the long drop,
Speaker 2: which thinks of shit, trying to get something, trying to
Speaker 2: get a direction, and nothing's working, and I'm like, goodness.
Speaker 2: So after maybe like it felt like ten minutes, I
Speaker 2: start to get some blood float and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're good. We've got something here. We've got something here,
Speaker 2: so we're kind of we're making progress. But I'm also thinking, like,
Speaker 2: hope no one has to get up in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night and go to the toilet, because you know, anyway,
Speaker 2: So making great progress, getting towards the pointy end, if
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I'm now conscious that I
Speaker 2: don't want to make a mess in the long drop.
Speaker 1: Were you sitting or standing standing? Nice?
Speaker 2: So with my left hand, I get the toilet paper.
Speaker 1: Oh you your prepping' and I'm like I've given.
Speaker 2: Myself a homemade baseball, mit to catch, to catch what's
Speaker 2: about to come into it.
Speaker 1: I'm digging it. Okay.
Speaker 2: So I've got this baseball mit. I'm like, ready, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm gonna catch this thing. Okay. So
Speaker 2: I'm like getting towards Enna, Jess. I'm so sorry to
Speaker 2: talk about this in front of you, also so to
Speaker 2: all listeners. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to catch
Speaker 2: this in the baseball mitt. And then the moment it happens,
Speaker 2: it's like a water main being struck.
Speaker 1: It's like square yeah, And I'm like.
Speaker 2: I've caught a little bit of it, but also a
Speaker 2: lot of it's now everywhere and inside the long drop,
Speaker 2: the walls are just dried mud.
Speaker 1: That's so you contributed to the structural integrity of that toilet.
Speaker 2: Now I'm like, okay, crab, I want to I got
Speaker 2: to clean this up. I can't have people in the
Speaker 2: morning being like, what are crystals?
Speaker 1: Come on the wall?
Speaker 2: The toilet paper is like a single ply right, It's
Speaker 2: like you know. I'm like, so I try and wipe
Speaker 2: it off, and then the toilet paper is like attached
Speaker 2: now to the dried clay, and and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, god, damn it, this is this is awful. People
Speaker 1: are going to know.
Speaker 2: People are going to know, Yeah, this's just like shreds
Speaker 2: of toilet paper. And then I'm like, I've got to
Speaker 2: try and remove it. So there's a little shovel that
Speaker 2: you can that we would put every time we get
Speaker 2: the toilet you put charcoal and sawdust over your business.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm going to use that shovel
Speaker 2: to like shave off the dried mud. So I'm there, like,
Speaker 2: would you be.
Speaker 1: The first person to ever get rid of semen with
Speaker 1: the shovel?
Speaker 2: So I'm shaving off all the mud. I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's a construction work. Now I'm like jack hammering away. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm also like this looks a bit sus because
Speaker 2: on one side it's all just like dried mud.
Speaker 1: And when it's like shave, it's just like flattened.
Speaker 2: But I'm like I did in a way which wasn't
Speaker 2: obvious that I got rid of the evidence. And then
Speaker 2: but then I realized something, Wow, ash, I realized I've
Speaker 2: done something very silly. Oh no, Okay, when you're in
Speaker 2: the jungle, it's drilled into you that you have to
Speaker 2: wear something at all times. Yes, a microphone.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so I.
Speaker 2: Everyone, I'm wearing a microphone.
Speaker 1: What okay, we're heavy. There just be a lot of
Speaker 1: heavy breathing. People probably think you're taking a monster shit
Speaker 1: in there, unless do you do you talk to yourself?
Speaker 2: Come on, I got it's everywhere.
Speaker 1: So okay, has anything? Did any want to say anything?
Speaker 2: No one saying? I think they kind of I then
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be the first I grabbed my microphone. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1: That was could calm. I went all over the walls picture.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to I was just like in case
Speaker 2: it was someone listening, and I just wanted to say,
Speaker 2: I'm really I'm okay, very so then I had to yeah.
Speaker 2: I then close the long drop door and did you
Speaker 2: get to sleep? And then I like a baby. But
Speaker 2: the guilt, the guilt of walking back into camp and
Speaker 2: whoopsie like a bit flustered heart.
Speaker 1: Any water.
Speaker 2: Replenish what I've just like, I'm like, I'm so dehydrated,
Speaker 2: just like bang of bones.
Speaker 1: Your skins are really tight.
Speaker 2: Hop back into bed and I was like, I'm an
Speaker 2: awful I'm a disgusting human being. And then towards the end,
Speaker 2: I was like to the others. I was like, we all,
Speaker 2: we all did it right? No, I was like everyone like, yeah,
Speaker 2: come on.
Speaker 1: We all like a good gear. I love that. Did
Speaker 1: anyone just be like, yeah, me too, just like make
Speaker 1: Maddy feel better.
Speaker 2: It looked accusing, and I was excuse it.
Speaker 1: Come on. It was like, damn it, man, have some
Speaker 1: self control.
Speaker 2: So just the once, yeah, just well twice.
Speaker 1: God it was one the end.
Speaker 2: It was like the second last night, I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 1: That's good gear.
Speaker 2: I like that, But the second time I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't wear the microphone.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you get in trouble? What were you doing
Speaker 1: in there? Wanking?
Speaker 2: Not so? Yeah, I am disgusting, I'll admit it. That
Speaker 2: was the highlight of my That's fine.
Speaker 1: I would have given them the go too.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't enjoy I didn't. For the record,
Speaker 2: it wasn't enjoyable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Matthew, one last thing, Yes, I have something for you.
Speaker 1: It's a lovely slice of mango.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I did I actually say. I don't
Speaker 2: remember saying that I would rather eat a mango than
Speaker 2: have sex with my wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did quite openly say that, and you didn't
Speaker 1: mix up your words there at all?
Speaker 2: You did that.
Speaker 1: You said, Hey, guys, just so you know, if I
Speaker 1: had a choice between this mango and having sex with
Speaker 1: my wife, I would take the mango.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: But we all, I look, honestly, well, Laura's not here,
Speaker 1: what about me? That's a that's a good look at mango. Yes,
Speaker 1: cover here is. Oh yeah, ah, it's funny. Sex sounds
Speaker 1: the same as that that is, looks good, smells really good.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but we all know what you're man
Speaker 1: that that you were just expressing how much how good
Speaker 1: that mango was at the time. What about now mango
Speaker 1: or sex with your wife?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Mango's pretty bloody good. That's all A
Speaker 2: good time for Thanks, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: That's all right. Do you want me to wrap this
Speaker 1: up all right? While Matt does his best to perform
Speaker 1: filatio on that mango. If you've enjoyed this episode, please
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Speaker 1: a good mango, very very good. We will be back
Speaker 1: next week with a regular with a regular episode. Oh man,
Speaker 1: he's really making up of that mango. I'm getting an erection,
Speaker 1: so I must go.
Speaker 2: Good to be back.
Speaker 1: Goodbye. For now. I'm doing fine too.
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