WEBVTT - SONIA KRUGER CHATS BIG BROTHER 2021! 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.600 Welcome back to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris, and 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.480 on this podcast, I'll be going behind the scenes with 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:10.480 the biggest players in television. Kicking off today's episode, I 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:14.080 want to thank the individual publicity teams at each network 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.160 who have been kind enough to facilitate their talent and producers. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.840 I would basically be talking to myself without you. In 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.280 the next few weeks, I will have co CEOs at 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.040 Eureka Productions, the head of Matchbox Pictures, and these are 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.160 really not easy people to get in front of, so 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.640 get pretty excited to go behind the scenes of television 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.919 with those guys. A little housekeeping at this point. If 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.760 you're enjoying the podcast, please press subscribe and leave a review. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:40.800 It's a huge part of the way in which these 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.159 platforms gain more exposure, which allows us to grow a 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:49.360 little community of TV enthusiasts. iHeartRadio, iTunes and Spotify are 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.479 all my biggest platforms to access TV Reload, and I 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.960 want to thank them for their visibility because without them, 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.400 I would just be another podcast with no audience. This week, 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.240 I will be reviewing the new series of Big Brother 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.120 and having the one and only Sonya Krueger drop in 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.080 for a chat. There will be no spoilers, and really 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.280 this is an opportunity for you to hear why this 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.640 year's Big Brother is worth watching. It's a challenge based format, 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.319 but the producers at Endemol Shine have really listened to 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.679 criticism and they have cast intelligent, highly engaging, diverse and 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.160 accomplished housemates. This year, we will get to see more 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.399 of them, and I promise you that there is more 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:30.000 visibility in getting to know each contestant. And at times 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.800 I felt like I was watching the original and even better, yet, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.640 this Big Brother feels respectful to the original brand, which 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.119 is brilliant because this is the twentieth anniversary of the show, 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.880 which debuted here in Australia in two thousand and one. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.040 Now for today's guest, I have known Sonya Krueger for 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.160 nearly ten years and I always have people asking what 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.800 Kruger is really like, and the truth is she is generous, 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.360 wickedly funny and thoughtful, which is why her career is 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.560 at an all time high. Produces one to work with her, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:05.240 audiences love her and with an authentic voice and an 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.640 unmatched presenting ability, she is the darling of Channel seven 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.920 for a reason. Hosting Holy Molly, Dancing with the Stars, 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.920 The Voice and Big Brother. There's no wonder that she 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.160 has cultivated an appeal that has kept us wanting more. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.120 Big Brother twenty twenty one is upon us and is 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.560 launching on the twenty sixth of April at seven point 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.280 thirty on Channel seven. So let's get started with today's guest. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.480 It's the one and only Sonya Krueger. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.919 It's hard not to be passionate about it when you 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:33.560 work on it. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.000 You think you know my game. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.560 You know there's a lot of great television out there 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:43.320 in Australia, more than meets the eye. The universe has 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.720 put it back here in front of me for a reason. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.000 I am Big Brother. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.840 I love it. I know Gretel loves it, and Gretel 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.880 messages me to She's such a sweetheart and I'll. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.160 See you Monday April and twenty. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.560 Six There's a lot of diversity in the past, and 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.919 I think that is another reason that people will find 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:02.360 somebody that they can relate to. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.239 How are your mate? Are you well? 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.200 I'm very well. Could not be better. Actually looking forward 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.720 to Monday night's launch. It's epic and I can't wait 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:12.840 for everybody to see it and to tell me what 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:13.359 they think. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:15.639 You know, I feel like I'm a poker player at 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.120 the moment, and I know it's a good hand, and 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.839 I just want people to be knocked over by what 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:26.200 these producers have installed. The new housemates are strong. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.280 He Brother is going to throw us here for smart. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.959 All my life I've lived outside my comfort zone. Going 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.680 into Big Brother is exactly that and strategic. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.800 I'm gonna act on and play. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.240 Smart, but they are in for a bumpy ride. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:41.920 Think you know Big Brother's game. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:44.000 Think again. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.560 One of the best things about you as a host 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.960 is that you bring your own Krueger personal flair. And 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.720 I absolutely noticed that with Dancing with the Stars All 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.120 Stars that you went full Krux. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.480 How is that full two? You know? It's funny doing 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.920 Dancing with the Stars was such a great nostalgic thing 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.840 to do, and it maybe I've realized how off the 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.440 chain we were Originally. We were really allowed to kind 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.640 of do whatever we wanted. There was no auto que. 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:18.240 We could kind of just fill every segment with whatever 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.599 we felt like at the time, and that kind of 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.120 thing you don't get to do a lot now. So 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.960 it was really great to be back with Todd. For example, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:32.240 we're such old friends and we sledge each other relentlessly, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.960 but it's all in good fun. It's sport for us. 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:38.720 Before we go, I ask you, Todd, what you think 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:39.760 of my dress. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.080 It's good to leave people wanting less. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.240 And the fact that the viewers like it too, I 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.440 think they know deep down we love each other. We 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.400 really love each other, but our sport on air is 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.400 to try and get one over the other, you know. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.159 I spoke to Todd a few years ago and he 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.039 said his favorite job is working with you on Dancing 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.480 with the Stars. And he said that sometimes before the show, 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.479 you guys would work out some good jobs to do 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:09.159 for the show. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:11.920 Often she would throw to me from the green room 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.080 which I couldn't see, and she'd make some kind of 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:15.960 gay joke or something which I loved. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.400 She's good at a double one tendre. And you'd send 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:20.600 each other like some messages. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.640 I thought of this idea, and I think this is 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.839 going to work, and then it would be executed. Or 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.359 sometimes you'd even say to him, I've written this, this 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.400 is a good one for you, and you'd sort of 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:32.159 tell him. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.719 Because I would think about he puts hi stuff in 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.560 my position, I put myself in his, and I think, oh, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.760 if I could be Todd, I would say this, you know, 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.599 and so I would have him and every now and 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.640 then he might use it. Same deal, vice versa. You 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.159 kind of have like that little mental storage bank of 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.720 stuff and it goes into that storage bank, and sometimes 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.920 they just randomly come out at the right moment. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.919 When Holly Brisley do you know actress Holly Bristol is on, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.600 So this is one example. So we it's on your 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.240 own in the makeup chair and going okay, you love 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.320 what you've got, and said, well, I've got this line, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.039 but I don't over that we can say it. And 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.279 it was that dress was so short we nearly saw 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:12.360 Holly's brizzly. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.720 It makes gold television. You know. 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.000 What was funny though, was that message I sent you 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.680 the other day on the opening night, and I actually 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.400 didn't realize that I'd recorded this sound of my partner 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:27.000 and I. As you emerged on screen, we started swearing 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.480 about how good you were, and we didn't realize we'd 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.440 sent it to you with the audio, and then we 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.159 had to write underneath it excuse the swearing. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.359 Sonya fuck me dead. 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:47.080 Looking good, Sonny Florry for the swearing. It actually made 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.400 my day, It really did, because you know, it's always 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.440 nerve breaking when you walk out and there's a big entrance, 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:57.240 especially with you know, there's Darryl Summers and we're we're 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.840 doing this show that was so dear to my and 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.800 you just want to make sure you don't trip over 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.400 that everybody likes what you're wearing. So when you sent 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.720 me that message, it was like, made me feel good 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:08.640 about everything. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.520 This season of Big Brother is actually one of the 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.280 best seasons of Big Brother I've ever seen. And you know, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.240 I'm a diehard fan and I've seen them all and 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.800 I don't want to give too much away because well, 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.680 those people are annoying. What are we going to do 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.080 to get people to tune in on opening night? Because 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.560 I honestly think this series it's addictive and once you 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.520 tune in, you will never be able to turn away. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.160 What are we going to do to make people watch? 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.400 Well, I think, you know, if people come to that 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.200 first episode, and I really hope they do. They certainly 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.920 did last series. When we launched the show, the first 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.760 episode really set things up so brilliantly, and there is 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.080 so much packed into it. You've got those arrivals to 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.680 have a live audience this year that we didn't have 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.840 last year. You have a massive twist in the first 0:07:55.960 --> 0:08:01.600 episode involving two key characters, and there is so much 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.520 going on. It just rockets along. And there've been some 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.760 amazing reviews written about that first episode already, which I'm 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.000 so thankful for, because you know, there's a lot of 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.440 great television out there in Australia. I think we actually 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.880 make world class TV. Whenever I've been to the States, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.240 I turn it on. How do they do it? They 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.200 would obviously do it better. It's America, right, but they 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.239 don't necessarily make better television than us. And I think 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.840 we need to understand that we actually do make really 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:34.040 incredible TV. Seine, who produced Big Brother, have done a 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.640 brilliant job and it's one of those shows, as you say, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.600 if you start watching it, like I binged seven episodes 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.840 last weekend and then I had to beg please send 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.240 me the next seven. I was there for it, but 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.920 I still wanted to see them put together, put together, 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.120 and just to revisit the whole thing. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.440 You know, if we go back to the beginning of 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.720 Big Brother and it is the twentieth anniversary, so twenty 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.920 years ago, in two thousand and one, Big Brother launched. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.120 But what was your first memory or interaction with Big Brother? 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:02.840 When it launched. 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.520 I got a phone call from Tim Klucas, who was 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.559 working at Channel ten at the time and as I think, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.440 the head of production there, and he asked me to 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.640 come an audition for this show, this new show called 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.280 Big Brother, and they needed somebody who could do the 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.640 whole live television thing. And he kept saying to me, look, 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.920 there are very few people in Australia that can do that. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.679 We need you to come, and we've narrowed it down 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.280 to a couple of people. Anyway, as the time sort 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.920 of got closer, he sent me screeners for it. I 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:31.959 showed it to a couple of friends and they were like, oh, yeah, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.360 we don't really feel like it's you. And so I 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.079 didn't go to the audition and Gretel ended up being 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:41.800 the host. And I can't imagine anybody else hosting Big 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.560 Brother in Australia when it first started. And luckily for me, 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.400 Dancing with the Stars was just around the corner at seven, 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.000 So you know, I had this thing I didn't want 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.480 to leave Seven. I didn't want to do a show 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.480 that I didn't really know and love, and Dancing with 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:59.080 the Stars was something that was in my wheelhouse. So 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.400 it kind of worked out for the best because then, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.920 you know, if we fast forward like ten or fifteen years, 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.640 it came back around. And it made me think when 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.959 it came back around, and at that point I had 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.600 to make the decision to leave seven and lead Dancing 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.360 with the Stars and go and do Big Brother. And 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.439 I thought, you know, the universe has put it back 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.400 here in front of me for a reason. So I 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.920 feel like there's some weird connection with this particular show. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:26.800 It's weird. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.600 Well, you are you are the queen. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.040 You're the Queen of Big Brother now, and for so 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.880 many years people sort of thought of Gretel Colleen hosting 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.240 this show. But if you think about it now, there's 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.400 so many people. You know, one of the contestants going 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.960 in this year probably was too young to have watched 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.360 Gretel Colleen hosts the show. And we'd only ever know 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.000 you as being the Queen of Big Brother. So whilst 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:51.400 we bow down to Gretel Colleen and her amazingness, you've 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.600 really owned this franchise, and you can see that you're 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.360 passionate about it as well, which is important. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.640 Yeah, I mean I love it. I know Gretel loves it, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:01.120 and Gretel messages me too. She's such a it's hard 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.079 not to be passionate about it. I think when you 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.520 work on it, or you've been part of it, or 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.040 you're a Big Brother fan. Our fan base, it's they 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.560 are super fans, you know, they eclipse all other fans 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.640 of every other show. It's because you become so invested 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.720 with the people, you want to get to know them. 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.200 You spend every night with them pretty much. They become 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.640 your surrogate friends. And originally Big Brother was a social experiment. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.720 It was, you know, the or Welly and kind of 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.959 idea of there's a higher power that's controlling everybody, and 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.960 we cut them off from society and they have no 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.120 interaction with anybody else. And I think it's evolved now 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.840 and it's almost like a mirror into our own lives 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.040 and we look at those people we think, would I 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.560 do that, how would I be, who would I be 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.280 making friends with? What would I do to get to 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.040 the end? Where is my own moral compass in terms 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:59.160 of betraying friendships or forming alliances. So there's a whole 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.040 other level of strategy with this particular version of the show. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.360 But at the core of it, and the thing that 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.440 really works in this particular series and that sets it 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.320 the part is the heart. Everybody who's reviewed it so 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.960 far has said that it has this incredible heart and 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.240 soul going on, and that is the thing that makes 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.200 me the most proud. And I'm saying that like I 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.719 made it, I didn't make it. Amelia Executive is here 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.040 and she deserves all of the credit because she is 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:27.600 a boss bitch. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.480 She's so good, but she understands the subject matter, and 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.959 I think that's what's key is. You know, the best 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.480 thing about Big Brother, and the best thing about television 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.640 is when we can see ourselves and we can relate, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.800 when we can see ourselves in the scenario. And I 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.160 think that's the magic of Big Brother is we all 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.080 can see or we think how would we go, Or 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.160 we see people interacting on the screen and we think, oh, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.160 go and have a beer with that person, or that 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.600 would be my mate. That ability to connect is really 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:55.560 the essence of Big Brother. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.800 Don't you think the diversity in the age group is 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.480 really interesting because series of Big Brother and s j 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:06.360 who is sixty five and the coolest sixty five year 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.000 old woman I've ever met in my life, is like 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.520 has inspired my outfit and I know you have one 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.040 to be somewhere, but that whole kind of like nineteen 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.960 nineties Jimiroquai ybe. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.240 The added ass tracksuit. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.720 We're both we're wearing it, but for people playing at home, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.120 we were wearing the same clothes. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.640 Has like a green and purple version that I've never 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:30.240 seen before. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:35.320 It's wait, I'm sixty five years old. I am an 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.640 anti jewelry dealer. All my life, I've lived outside my 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.720 comfort Sir, I am going to get emotional because people 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.280 think they can't do what they want to do. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:48.559 And here we are, Hello, Sarah Jane. I have chosen you. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.800 She's the coolest old person I've ever seen. But you 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.600 know that leads me to something, and that is Isn't 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.400 it amazing that we are here in twenty twenty one 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.680 and the diversity of this cast, like we are seeing 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.760 all ages in the Big Brother House like we've never 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:07.360 seen before. We're seeing so many different people being recognized 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:12.000 and represented, like Carlos being there is a fantastic housemate. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:17.920 Hey, can you hear me some to dance with me? 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:20.720 I have chosen you. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.280 I think that this is the best cast of Big 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:26.840 Brother we have ever seen. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.720 Yeah, I think we've got a really good mix of people. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.680 And I'm not involved in the past and process, but 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.440 I love the fact that we have people who are, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:40.120 you know, culturally different, geographically different. We have people from 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:44.360 final Queensland to you know, a sheep farmers from Adelaide 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.680 in a city Melbourne, their ages are different. There's a 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.880 lot of diversity in the past in that regard and 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.640 I think that that is another reason that people will 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.080 find somebody that they can relate to in there. And 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:02.000 from a personality perspective, when you look at somebody like Danny, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.760 for example, who features quite strongly in the promos, and 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.800 Danny's a real estate agent from Geelong, he is probably 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.040 one of the most polarizing people you know that you 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.760 will meet because I guess he's always doing deals. You know, 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.200 he's that's in his DNA. But and you go through 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.720 this ride Danny where you love Danny and then you 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.120 don't love Danny, and you go through this whole thing 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.479 and he makes friends with somebody who is the opposite 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:32.600 of him, Nick, who is a color blind house painter. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.200 A redhead color blind painter. I'd try to stick to 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:38.200 my wife in that way. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:39.920 I don't have to tell the client that how you're 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.320 dealing with a color blind painter. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:43.120 He's good with white. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.040 It's about it beyond the color he can paint. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.200 Yeah, And I think even the fact that these unlikely 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.400 friendships get formed in the house, that is something that 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.400 is fun to watch Nick meet Danieline. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:59.840 We are so different, but I like you. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:01.760 I like you at least four What are. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.600 Their animals and they are represent you Daniel. 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.320 That lion right there, that's a fairal cat mate. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.800 And those two together create some television goals because they 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.800 are like they are self described. They describe themselves as 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.680 being the wet band from home alone, the bumbling books 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.240 who are spot not really you know. Like, so there 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.480 are a lot of great, great characters in this series. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.280 How have you gone with the format changes over the years, 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.080 Because did you watch any of the overseas version, because 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.360 like Big Brother now in Australia is quite similar to 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.240 the Canadian version which Tim Dormer, you know, winner of 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.160 Big Brother in twenty thirteen, he went and did that series, 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.280 and now we've borrowed a lot of that essence. How 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.240 have you gone with the evolution of Big Brother to 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:44.680 this point? 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.040 I actually love it. I don't think if there's one 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.080 thing you may not have noticed about me, Ben, I 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.960 feel like if I sit in one spot for too long, 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.120 I would get a little bit anty. And that's why 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.800 I think. You know, switching back to seven and doing 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.400 everything that I've been doing has been great fun for 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.360 me because I get to change things up. The format 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.160 changes have improved the show. The way we watched Big 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.879 Brother twenty years ago and the way we watch television now, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.320 those two things weren't gelling. So you know, we want 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.919 something that's fast paced. We want an outcome every episode. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.359 We want to see an eviction and something happen, and 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.600 then I hook for the next night so that we can, oh, yeah, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.080 I'm coming back because I want to see what happens 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.720 next in that story. So I think it's evolved in 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:36.159 a brilliant way, and it's now perfect for audiences who 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.600 are at home watching. It's broad enough too for everyone 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.080 to watch, Like maybe we'll often watch over my shoulder 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.440 if I'm looking at episodes and my laptop shell into 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.480 like she us to see who wins the challenges, you know, 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.520 and there's nothing in there that concerned me. You know, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.760 there's nothing in Big Brother that I think I didn't 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.480 feel if I really want to see that. You know, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.720 there are some confrontations that confrontation doesn't necessarily have to 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.600 be a bad thing. I think people who are confrontational 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:09.359 are also asserting. And we send our children to school, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.879 I mean, we try to teach them to become assertive. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.159 And I think that's not a bad thing to be 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.200 able to be asserted, and it's not a bad thing 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.840 to be reserved and to sit back from that either. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.320 And there are all different personality types in the house, 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.560 so I think that in real life we have to 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.679 interreact with all different personality types and we have to 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.080 be able to get along and at the end of 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.840 the day, that's what happened. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.920 Your relationship this year with the contestants is really interesting 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.239 to watch because I think you really grill them, and 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.520 I think it's a pull through for each episode. Is 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.240 that excitement of you being able to unpack what's happened 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:52.360 earlier and sort of unearthed things that have gone on, Katie. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:56.520 A little Birdie told me that you and Max knew 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:01.040 each other on the outside. Yes, we dated. Do we 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.840 potentially have like a love triangle on our hands? I 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:04.439 don't think so. 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.600 I can imagine that must be a very different process 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.320 and your what's your relationship like this year with the contestants. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.679 Look, it's great in that every time I turn up 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.720 and I say hi, they're very happy to see me, 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.480 and I'm really happy to see them because we have 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.280 this kind of, you know, symbiotic relationship going on. It's like, oh, 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.800 you know, I'm their window to the outside world in 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.520 a way, although I don't tell them anything about what's 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.159 going on in the outside world. But then I've become 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:36.120 the prosecutor in Big Brothers' courtroom, and it's my job 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.240 to really sort of get to the truth of what's 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:44.320 going on without without blowing anybody's game. And that's not 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.520 always easy to do because sometimes there are issues that 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.320 arise that you need to get to the bottom of. 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.840 And it's I actually really enjoy it. I have to say, 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.520 I've never been in this This type of posting is 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.159 very different from anything else that I've done, where you know, 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.520 where it's a big, shiny floor show, and you know 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:05.199