WEBVTT - BONUS: Ken McElroy with Scott Williams 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:06.800 He's bad. 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:08.039 Whoa we did? 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.280 It was a great. 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:13.080 Proud of us. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.480 I think that was an amazing really appreciate that. I 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.240 did laugh at that you made. But that's okay. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.439 But it's okay, okay, it's okay. It doesn't leave you 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:24.880 say it's okay. It actually doesn't matter. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.680 It doesn't matter. Now. When we sat down for you 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:29.560 to tell us this story, you said to me, are 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.520 you okay? With a really gnarly murder? 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:31.800 Yeah? 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:33.560 I did, and that is a good for me. 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.279 Yeah, okay, all right? Should I crack straight into all right? 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:41.519 On July the tenth, nineteen eighty one, Ken McElroy and 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.760 his wife Trina walked out of the DNG barring downtown 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.520 Skid Moore, Missouri. They climbed in on. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:54.120 Ski was skid, wrote to sound Glass. Yeah, thanks, you've 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:55.600 a weird elder, said the actual. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.840 They climbed into King's truck and he placed the six 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.680 pack of beer he had purchased on the seat between them. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.000 Ken pulled a cigarette out of his pack, leaned forward 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:05.640 to engage the truck cigarette lighter. As he sat back up, 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.319 his wife screened in horror, he has a gun. Suddenly, 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.959 shots rang out in the small town main street. Ken's 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.360 truck was struck around fifty nine times from bullets firing 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.920 for several directions. Ken was struck with bullets in the neck, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.319 the back of the arm, the head, the lung, and 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.720 the temple, as well as several shots in his back. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.320 He died instantly. Remarkably, none of the bullets hit Trina. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.560 She was pulled from the truck, covered in her husband's 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.440 blood and dragged to safety by local women. Trina was 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.400 taken to a bank where the doors were locked behind 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.319 her and she was kept safe until the police arrived. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.679 She was at all. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.720 This is the story of the murder of Ken McElroy. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.360 It feels I want to warn you about two things. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:51.680 Don't yell at me. 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.400 I'm not yelling at your Stop and listen to It's 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:55.800 what's lovely story he's brought today. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:56.440 It's lovely. 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.520 The thing about this story, this is the first thing 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.320 I'll warn you out. The thing about this story. You're 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.280 going to feel a lot more conflicted about this murder 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.360 than you do now. No. And the second thing is 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.040 I do actually think of the first for the first 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.960 time as the third wheel of the podcast that we 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.120 need to give a trigger warning this story. This story 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.640 is full of violence, okay, and seafoods me. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:24.720 Oh no, no, seafood. Not see, I'm fine with violence. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.359 But if you had. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.280 Offered me five million dollars to pick. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:33.680 Your next that's a trigger warning, seafood. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.000 So we will be mentioning what can only be called 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:40.440 statutory rape, violence against women. And so if that is 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.480 concerning for you, you actually might want to skip this 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.320 episode on. Certainly not have it on with the kids 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:44.760 in the car. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:46.760 Sure, and seafood as well. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:52.600 And seafood. In nineteen seventy two, Tony and Mabel McElroy 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.560 lived in a small town in Kansas. Mabel had married 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.519 Tony when she was fourteen years old, pregnant, and. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.880 He was told, oh gross, yack. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:04.200 Tony had trouble finding and keeping work because of his 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.840 drinking and it's in explosive temper. However, Mabel was frugal 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.080 and just before the start of the Great Depression, they 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.320 were able to lease a large parcel of land just 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.960 outside of Skidmore, Missouri. It was around two hundred acres 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:20.560 with a four bedroom home included Wow. Tom planted corn crops. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.799 Unfortunately for the young couple, the season in Missouri was 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.440 one of the driest on record, and the rainless season 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:27.680 meant they lost the entire crop. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:28.600 Oh my god. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.840 Tony had to go back to menial jobs, working on 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.520 other people's farms and taking on construction jobs to make 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:38.120 ends meet. Despite their poverty, they continued having children, and 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.080 Ken McElroy was born on June sixteen nine and thirty four. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.200 He was the fifteenth of the sixteen children. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.920 Oh my god, that's so many. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.200 Who lived in a four bedroom house. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.960 Oh my gosh, sixteen children children. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.360 Both his parents worked more than twelve hours a day 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.120 in several jobs, and their children basically ranged as free 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:58.760 as they liked. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.440 You'd have to work some new jobs for sixteen children, 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:02.880 Oh my god. 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.760 Being the youngest child, very few of the family paid 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.080 any attention to Ken. He did not take to school, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.840 and he never learned to read well. One of his 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.760 teachers remembered that when he did come to school, he 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.080 would smell so badly that the teacher would have to 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:16.640 take him to the washroom and show him how to 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.120 clean himself so that the other children could stand having 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:20.479 him in the same way. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:21.880 Wow. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.000 Ken decided to leave school part way through grade five, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.839 and no one in the family really noticed that he 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.120 was no longer attending school. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:28.840 Wow. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.520 Ken was a bored child and would cause trouble in 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.320 the town. In one incident, when he was a child, 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.960 Ken was accused by a local store owner of stealing. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.280 He went home and complained to his father. Rather than 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.320 reprimand the boy, his father, Toney charged into the store 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.040 with a curved hunting knife in his hands and slammed 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.520 the owner up against the wall. He allegedly said to 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.400 the owner, if you ever touched my boy again, or 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:57.839 cut your fucking heart out. Ken started stealing in the area, 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.440 mostly small stock animals. When he was around FI fifteen, 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.720 he bought an old car. He pulled the back seat 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.039 out and replaced it with a wooden floor. He would 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.280 drive around at night and steal pigs, which would then 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.960 sell to people in surrounding towns or to the local abatur. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.880 This is Diggs's dream right now, driving town pigs. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:15.720 It wouldn't sell them. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:17.440 Bring him in here. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.040 And when I wrote that, I just wanted to foot 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.920 la la lah lovey. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:26.039 Please watch Sammy's stand up special if you did not 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:27.040 get that reference. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.720 At eighteen, Ken married for the first time to sixteen 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.919 year old Aleta Holland. They moved to Denver, and for 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.760 a short time, Ken was doing well. Then one day, 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.680 while working on a construction site, a large beam fell 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.279 around thirty feet, striking King directly on the head. He 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.280 was wearing a helmet, which split in two. 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.360 He survived. Wow, Wow, that's so lucky. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.440 Ken took this as a sign that the straight life 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.279 was not for him, and he left his job. He 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.440 and a lader moved back to Skidmore to live with 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.960 his parents. At twenty years old, while still married to Alie, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.080 he allegedly raped and impregnated a local sixteen year old girl. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:05.200 Oh god. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.880 The girl took the pregnancy to term, and she died 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:12.839 while giving birth to twins. The twins did also not survive. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:14.520 No God. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.080 A former classmate tells us that the pigs. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.080 Yeah, go back to the happy pigs. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:20.000 What was it that I said? 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.880 I agree? 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:30.320 Sorry, you think that's gnarly. A former classmate told the 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.440 story that the girl's family began to raise concerns about 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.039 what Ken had done. He broke into their house one 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:40.600 night raped their other daughter to show them that they 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:41.359 were vulnerable. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.440 Oh my gosh, I think I'm going to have. 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.600 To leave the family stopped talking about their younger daughter's death, 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.440 and they never raised charges with the police. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.800 Oh my god, that is disgusting. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.640 While this was happening, Ken had met and started dating 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.400 a fifteen year old girl named Sharon. They had a 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.760 complicated relationship, and during an argument when afternoon, while sitting 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.599 in his truck, Ken pulled our shotgun and held it 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.839 against Sharon's face. He told her if she didn't stop 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:10.000 bloody talking, he would shoot. Later, Sharon said that the 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.520 gun accidentally discharged, what ripping into her face and neck 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.400 and causing huge wound wear. Section of her skilled skin 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:21.920 pulled loose from her ear to her she refused certain 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.640 aid charges and she surplied. 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:25.400 Oh my god. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.800 As soon as she was released from the hospital, Ken 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.560 convinced her that they should get married. Ah. He divorced 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.680 a letter and married Sharon, which ensured that Sharon could 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.120 not testify against him for the shooting. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.440 My god, I was. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.440 Just going to say, Sammy has kindly invited you into 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:46.960 his home. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:47.840 That's true. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:49.640 He's given you a glass of Shandon. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:56.120 Thank you, and you thank you, and you have abused 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:01.320 the open invite by coming in here and telling us 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:02.280 g like that. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:03.680 Telling us these stories. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.840 G look, don't flick through your. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.960 Pages at me on that clipboard. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:16.880 We're at the start of this story. Sharon. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.280 You if you're not watching on the YouTube, I was 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.120 so creepy. You just read ahead and gave a creepiest 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:24.720 little girl. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:31.360 Oh no, just call me buttons. They had two children, 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.560 Sharon and Ken. Then, around nineteen sixty one, twenty seven 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.520 year old McElroy started dating a thirteen year old girl 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.200 named Sally, who he had met while she was waiting 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:43.160 at a local bus stop. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.640 I was going to sit here and quietly disassociated. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:45.959 Yeah. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:46.959 Yeah. 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.679 He and Sharon were living with his parents, and McElroy 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.040 decided to move Sally in with his wife, Sharon and 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:57.320 their children. Sally had three children to Ken, and Sharon 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:58.240 had two more. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:08:59.920 And they were just still living together. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:00.520 Yes. 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:10.000 The name of the slave that Thomas Jefferson repeatedly raped 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.240 and I think she fathered children to him was also 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:13.840 called Sally. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:14.360 There you go. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.560 Really just thought I'd tell you were disturbing stories, horrible things. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.720 Ken would spend his days hanging out with his hunting buddies, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.320 and at night he would steal horses, hogs, and cattle. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.400 By this time, he had an old truck and a 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.960 horse trailer that made stealing easier. In one incident, a 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.600 local farmer, Glenn Graham, caught Ken and two of his 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.400 friends stealing two horses. Allegedly, the farmer went out to 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.079 the paddock to check his horses and was brutally attacked 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.920 by Ken and his friends. This is where we get 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:42.640 a little bit gnarly. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.200 This is this is where gannali. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.400 They allegedly used brass knuckles and clubs to beat Glenn. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.760 When he dropped to the ground, they continued beating him, 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.480 and according to the sheriff's report, his left eye appeared 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:55.480 to have been kicked out of his. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:10:00.880 Head, out of his head, justut of his head. Horrendous 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.199 correct use of the word horrenders horrendous. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.760 Now I'm going to keep saying allegedly occasionally in this 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.880 because Ken has never been convicted of men these crimes. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:09.640 Wow. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.520 Ken was charged with this assault and this is when 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.360 he met attorney Richard McFadden on this occasion. He didn't 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.280 need the attorney, however, because something other than stealing that 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:20.960 Ken was great at was intimidation. 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.719 Yeah, I'm so surprised by that, saying he talked all 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.240 these young women into marrying him. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:28.280 And. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.760 All these young women so far. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.960 Also no not young women, children children. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.560 The day after he was charged, McElroy visited the farmer 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.600 asked him to drop the chargers, and when the farmer refused, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.960 McElroy returned to his truck, got a gun, entered the 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.200 farmer's home and hit him in the face with the gun, 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:52.120 breaking his nose and fracturing his other eye socket. The farmer, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:57.040 Glenn Graham, dropped all charges. The fact that the charges 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.679 were dropped called outrage in the town. Call is quoted 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.520 as saying to the men in this town need to 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.360 take the law into their own hands and resolve this situation, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.280 or can be allowed to continue living in this community 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.280 and committing crimes for. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:16.920 Sha harmonized as value to good staff. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.320 In nineteen sixty four, now thirty year old Ken McElroy 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.080 met Alice outside the corner store. She asked him to 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.840 buy her cigarettes, and he agreed on the condition that 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.640 she would smoke them in his truck. Ils was twelve. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.679 Oh my god, when Ken first seduced her. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:35.280 Ah. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.319 And please note I use the word seduced because that's 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.520 how Ken's wife described it. But it's actually not the 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.960 right word. It's statutory rape. In fact, it's not that. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:51.320 In nineteen sixty nine, thirty four year old Ken was 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.120 introduced by Alice to her eighth grade friend, Trina McGinn, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.560 who became very who became very fond of Ken very quickly. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.720 Trina would get other twelve year old students to sign 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.120 her mother's name on absentee notes so she could sneak 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.199 out of school and met Ken. They commenced a sexual relationship, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.319 well they didn't, and Ken quickly convinced Trina to leave 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.160 her parents' house, drop out of school and moving with him. 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:18.920 Wow. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.199 At fourteen years old, Trina had her first child. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.400 To what He's like thirty six, thirty. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.560 Four, thirty four on thirty six. Now that she's w. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.280 Your math is amazing then, because it's usually not. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.920 Something's happening today. You've rewired my brain incredibly disturbing, so 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:41.080 much I can now do add to like nobody. Thank you. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.520 He became math. That was amazing. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.920 There was no room for Trina at his parents' house, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.040 so Ken kick Sally out and Trina moved in with Ken. Sharon, 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.640 Sharon's kids and Ken's parents and. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.520 Ken's parents are still around through all of this. Yep, oh, 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.120 I have some words. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.480 But the happy home did not last long. Just after 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.880 Trina gave birth, Sharon convinced her that they had to 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.920 get out of the house, and they ran off and 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.319 went to Trina's parents home for refuge. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.440 So Trena's parents were on board with this as well. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.679 Well. Trina's parents were around, ran exactly on board. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:10.760 They were around. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:15.400 Ken came to Trena's parents home with a gun and 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.079 forced the girls to come back home with him. When 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.360 he got them home, he beat them each He beat 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.440 each of them and then made each of them have 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:24.079 sex with him. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.280 Oh my god, I hate this. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.760 Yes. He then took Trina in his truck back to 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:35.640 her parents' house, shot the family dog, poured petrol around 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.960 the outside of the house, and burned it down so 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.640 Trina's family would know never to protect her again. 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.400 Oh what the fuck? 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:44.880 What the fuck? 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.880 A few days later, Trina attended a doctor because the 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.280 wounds from her beating and sexual assult were severe. The 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.480 doctor was able to convince Trina to tell him the 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.199 truth about the beating, the shooting, and the arson. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.079 The Big three. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.240 Yep. The doctor contacted social wa who took Trina and 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.680 her child to a foster care. Remember she was fourteen 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:05.840 years old. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:09.120 Oh, I got to hurt to foster care too, because she's. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:15.480 Because she's still a fucking toil. That's why. On the 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.280 basis of her testimony, Ken was indicted for arson, statutory rape, 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:24.360 and assault. Richard McFadden represented mcaorory, again, saying that he 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.280 was his favorite client because he always comes back and 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:28.280 he always pays cash. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:29.480 Jesus cursed. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.680 The attorney's tactic each time was to delay the case 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.600 until he and Kean could work out a solution. Guess 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:41.520 what Ken's solution was on this occasion, intimidation. He found 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.760 the foster home where Trina was house and started making 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.480 threatening phone calls. He would sit outside the house for 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.680 hours with his headlights on, shining through the windows of 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.800 the home, and occasionally he would fire a shotgun into 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.760 the egg. At one stage, she called the foster family 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.720 and he said he would exchange the safety of one 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:02.080 child for the safety he was, implying that he knew 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.800 where the foster family's child went to school, what bus 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.720 she caught, and he would kidnap her to get Trina. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:12.240 The delay tactics and intimidation lasted around two months, and 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.800 then Trina decided she was concerned for the safety of 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.040 the Foster family and she found life there a little 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:21.400 bit boring, so she left and returned to liv My god. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.160 Ken then convinced Trina they should go out of state 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.960 and get married, despite the fact that he was still 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.720 married to Sharon because Trina, and I've written this in 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.920 capital letters, because Trina was still a fucking child. Ken 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.160 required the permission of a parent or guardian to marry her, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.200 and Trina's parents refused. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:42.680 Oh I wonder lie. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.160 To get Trina's mother to agree to the marriage, Ken 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.200 went to the house where they now lived, because remember 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:52.760 he'd burned out, he killed their new dog, and he 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.360 holed a knife to Trina's mother's throat, and, according to 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.360 Trina's mother, politely asked her to reconsider how. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.080 Did to throat? And politely? After plight what a psycho? 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.600 Trina's mother signed the paperwork allowing Trina to marry Ken. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.840 Marrying Trina meant that she could not be compelled to 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:17.720 testify against him. She also signed a statement to say 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.400 she'd made up the beating of rape charges and the 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.880 arson story just because she was mad at Ken, and 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:41.600 McElroy was beat the charges. In nineteen seventy six, he 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.960 shot his neighbor, another farmer, with a shotgun filled with 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.040 bird shot, injuring him in the face and stomach. Again, 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.440 he was defended by McFadden, who delayed the case while 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:54.240 McElroy intimidated not only with the farmer but the judge. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:58.400 Bird shot bird shot is like not shotgun pellets. It's 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.240 like a salt. I think it's so base. Oh right, 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:02.400 scares the birds off. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:03.880 It doesn't kill him, okay. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.439 He would drive past the farmer's house, shine a spotlight 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.879 through his windows at night, destroy his tractors, and he 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.200 stood out on the property boundary firing guns into the 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.359 neighbor's crops. The farmer said McElroy was packed out his 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.800 home at least one hundred times. Ken also went to 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.960 the judge's property and burned down his barn, leaving a 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.040 poorly written note which said your cattle and children next 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:26.640 to the judge. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.560 To the judge, Okay, I'm going to just say here. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.119 Doing the story very much, I do not come. 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.720 He thanks you for that, condone, And I have never 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.119 I don't think ever in my life thought before that 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.040 taking someone else's life would be a good thing. But 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.320 right now I want to ask you, why no one 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.399 seeing everyone's and farmers and everyone in the land, and 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:56.359 everyone's got guns. Why did no one even perhaps accidentally 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:58.120 maybe go out hunting? 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.000 And what happened at the start of the story? G 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.480 But this is later before now I know. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:06.679 Yep. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.280 So, even though there were witnesses to the shooting, two 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.800 of Ken's hunting buddies testified that he'd been with them 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.840 the whole day and the witnesses must be mistaken. Remarkably, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.919 the judge accepted that testimony. The judge so judge, and 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:24.600 Ken was not convicted. In nineteen eighty two of Ken 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.639 and Trina's daughters went to the local store to buy 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.280 some household groceries. The store was run by Lois and 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.880 Ernest bowen Camp, a couple who were beloved in the town. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.720 Lois and Earnest as they were. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.000 Leaving, Yeah, as they were leaving, the five year old 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:41.600 picked up two pieces of candy and put them in 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.160 her pocket. Seventy two year old Ernest saw her do this, 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.560 grabbed her arm and told her to put them back 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.200 or pay for them. The girl wriggled free and ran 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.520 home to complain about her treatment to her mother, Trina. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.639 Shortly after, Trina and Ken entered the store and confronted 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.439 the old couple who owned the store about how they 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.119 had treated Trena's daughter, very similar to what his dad 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:06.719 Yeah Yeah. Ernest chastised Trainer for her daughter's behavior and 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.280 told them that they and their whole family were now 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.040 banned from the store for life. Obviously, Ken took this well. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.320 He began a camp campaign of intimidation against Lois and 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:18.320 Ernest Bowen Camp. 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.440 But their names are Lewis and Ernest. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.160 Scott changed the story. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.560 Change the story, Scott rewrite. 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:31.520 It back to Disneyland. He would Ken would sit outside 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.000 the store on the front of his truck with a 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.480 knife or a gun, or a gun with a bayonet attached. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.760 Around a month after around a month of harassment, McElroy 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.840 pulled up behind the store one afternoon, waited for Ernest 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.200 Bowen Camp to come out the back door, and shot him, 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.480 hitting him in the face and neck with the shotgun. 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:52.199 The store owner lived and Ken was arrested and charged 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:56.359 for this shooting. Oh His response was to continue to 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.919