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Speaker 2: This is the podcast for ordinary.
Speaker 1: People who want to do extraordinary things. I hate this
Speaker 1: because it's like, why we all still weigh ourseuse. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have very mixed emotions about this because
Speaker 1: I just think if your thinking I need to be
Speaker 1: a certain weight to do things, I just think it's
Speaker 1: a bit problematic. Hello and welcome back to the Rise
Speaker 1: and Conquer Potty. It is your host Georgie Stevenson, and
Speaker 1: we are back today with a hot line EP. These
Speaker 1: are our fun Friday epps where you send in your
Speaker 1: life dilemmas and me and producer A Tea provide you
Speaker 1: with our very unqualified two cents on the situation. Hello
Speaker 1: a Tia.
Speaker 2: Hello, So guys.
Speaker 1: Today on the episode we chat about problematic partners manifesting,
Speaker 1: weight loss, and also what to do when you're manifestation
Speaker 1: is something you thought you wanted, it turns out you didn't.
Speaker 1: And I've got a very fun story for you. I
Speaker 1: didn't give you my week update in Tuesday's episode because
Speaker 1: you can probably tell by my voice. She's a bit husky,
Speaker 1: bit sick, bit sexy. I sound like my partnership's manager,
Speaker 1: Ja Center. Her voice like kind of just sounds like
Speaker 1: this all the time, like husky, and I love it,
Speaker 1: so I'm not mad about it. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: was quite sick. I think it was just like me.
Speaker 1: My immunity was quite low because you girls been busy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you just run down, Yeah exactly. And I was like,
Speaker 1: physically I wasn't too bad. It's just like my voice
Speaker 1: left my body. It's like bye, bitch. So week was great.
Speaker 1: We on the weekend we launched our candylanth collection was
Speaker 1: so awesome in Naked Harvest. Obviously, we had a big
Speaker 1: candy Land Carnival event. What did you think of the event?
Speaker 1: A teer, so much fun, so much fun, literally best ever.
Speaker 1: And Tea was a little helper at the event, so
Speaker 1: running around it. But I didn't get to do. She
Speaker 1: joined the NH team for the day. Very helpful, but
Speaker 1: it was very surreal. It was like, you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: walk into a planning event is just wild. What goes
Speaker 1: into planning an event is Craig Kray, which is to
Speaker 1: be honest, why we have never done one because it
Speaker 1: just it gives me exciting thinking about planning event. But
Speaker 1: it went so well. It did. It went so well,
Speaker 1: and I just the feedback we got from you know,
Speaker 1: the ambassadors and everyone there was like they said, it
Speaker 1: felt like an event where they were just like around
Speaker 1: their besties and it was like super casual. Because this
Speaker 1: is a little secret, but I hate influencer events. I
Speaker 1: feel like you've said that I'm probably out. It's not
Speaker 1: a secret. I don't know. I just like never vibed them,
Speaker 1: which is just you see me not going to many
Speaker 1: like you know, big launches or anything, because oh, if
Speaker 1: I've got spare time, you can bet I'm going to
Speaker 1: spend it with like Ivy and Tim or like my
Speaker 1: best friends, not at an event with random people who yeah,
Speaker 1: you know are all just like it's just small talk
Speaker 1: for two yeah, for their own agenda, which is fine.
Speaker 1: I only ever go to events like I.
Speaker 2: Very much believe in.
Speaker 1: But it was just so cool to have everyone there,
Speaker 1: you know, and the reveal went so well and I
Speaker 1: did my little speech and it was just, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really cool. I'm just so proud of NHTM. They
Speaker 1: just they pulled it together. We had a couple of
Speaker 1: mishaps the night before, but we won't go there holy shit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it was spectacular. And then the candy
Speaker 1: collection launched and we've got five brand new products, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's been a big, big week. But obviously
Speaker 1: just finally kind of breathe for the next month or so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got no official launches coming up except obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: Black Friday for Naked Harvest, got some exciting things for
Speaker 1: Iron c Should we just tell them no?
Speaker 2: Should we just tell them a tr No?
Speaker 1: I want to tell them, Okay, we can't. He was
Speaker 1: exactly like, mel this tell them no. All talk literally
Speaker 1: all talk. Recommendation for the week, the sour peach free
Speaker 1: work out. I love it, the stim free stim free.
Speaker 1: It's like my new favorite flavor. Is it because it's
Speaker 1: stim free or just a flavor?
Speaker 3: No, just the flavor. Truly, I thought I loved. I
Speaker 3: love sour worms, but I love sour peach.
Speaker 1: Really so much, such a good flavor.
Speaker 2: I feel like they're quite different.
Speaker 1: So sour worm is just like very in your face
Speaker 1: and then sour peach is subtle. Yeah, but it's so good.
Speaker 3: And I find like Courtney really hit the nail on
Speaker 3: the head on Saturday because I tried the sour peach
Speaker 3: for the first time because I hadn't tried it before Saturday,
Speaker 3: but I'd had sour worm, and.
Speaker 1: I was like, what does this taste like? She's like
Speaker 1: your childhood and I was like, that's literally it. I
Speaker 1: like that I don't know.
Speaker 3: What from when I was a kid that this was,
Speaker 3: because I obviously didn't eat the sour peach allies when
Speaker 3: I was little, but yeah.
Speaker 1: It just brings her back. Yeah, well, that's like the
Speaker 1: whole notion is just so nostalgic. It just brings everything back,
Speaker 1: and especially for me and Cooper because we grew up
Speaker 1: with a very health conscious mum who like to have lollies.
Speaker 1: Was so special and so exciting. So like the inner
Speaker 1: child of me just like dies over this collection because
Speaker 1: it is so exciting and I have to stop myself
Speaker 1: from drinking too much free workout. Oh my god, guys,
Speaker 1: I literally am gonna read to you me honest sugar high,
Speaker 1: essentially full context. I have had pre workout in the past,
Speaker 1: but I've never done it with the purpose of working
Speaker 1: out after. I've just drank it like juice or something
Speaker 1: throughout the day. It's like a little pepper of energy
Speaker 1: and it's been like half a serve. And I had
Speaker 1: my first ever full serve of pre workout before I
Speaker 1: work out. I think it was last week. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Tea text me Monday seven, nineteen pm. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm like what. I textwork so fast too, because I
Speaker 1: was like, what what's happened with the podcast. She's like,
Speaker 1: first time today I actually use pre workout properly, and
Speaker 1: then in caps it was amazing. And then I just
Speaker 1: did the laughing face and she's like, I did my
Speaker 1: workout in forty five minutes. Thirty five minutes, and then
Speaker 1: she did laughing face and then she's like, life changing, literally,
Speaker 1: life change. Literally. The conversation we had the day before
Speaker 1: was you were saying your workouts were taking you an
Speaker 1: hour long and a half and You're like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can keep doing this, I know because
Speaker 1: I was like, that's actually ridiculous. It was too long.
Speaker 1: How are you meant to get anything in life done?
Speaker 1: But I think the other thing that I did, which
Speaker 1: I if my fitness coaches listening to this, please, this
Speaker 1: is what I didn't stop, like twelve reps of something
Speaker 1: I just did forty eight. No, well, that's like sometimes
Speaker 1: I do that if it's like I've just got to
Speaker 1: get the workout done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I mean I should be going heavier,
Speaker 3: but it's fine.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, I did the workout. I'm like,
Speaker 1: did you take normal pre workout or free? And she's
Speaker 1: like normal. Then I was like, fuck ah, you're not
Speaker 1: going to sleep very well. I did, and then she
Speaker 1: she came in the next morning, was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't sleep well, but that was a great worker Yes, guys,
Speaker 1: this is why we have stim free workout. Don't do
Speaker 1: what a tea did because it will, like pre workout
Speaker 1: is going to affect your sleeves. Yeah, but if you're
Speaker 1: a morning workout gao, you'd have a great day after.
Speaker 1: Oh that's why I'm so happy with the time of tea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: crazy your recommendation. Oh yes, I'm going to go back
Speaker 1: to a TV show, even though Jamie banned us from
Speaker 1: recommending TV shows.
Speaker 2: Actually, first of all.
Speaker 1: My recommendation is the Mask Protein. Oh yeah, it is
Speaker 1: so underrated, and I feel like so many of the
Speaker 1: ambassadors at the event were like, oh, I was sus
Speaker 1: on the flavor. Ye so sus and then they tried
Speaker 1: it and they're like, holy shit, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. It just works, and it's so
Speaker 1: delicious and it's one of the few, you know, proteins
Speaker 1: that you could literally just have it by itself, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's so creamy, it's got so much flavor,
Speaker 1: and it's so so delicious. So yeah, that's just that's
Speaker 1: definitely my favor. But my recommendation is a TV show
Speaker 1: called Tell Me Lies on Disney Pass. Have you heard I?
Speaker 1: Have I heard of this? So it's a bit saucy,
Speaker 1: A bit saucy. It's not our usual coming of age.
Speaker 1: They're in college, so we've like we've gone up from
Speaker 1: high school. A lot of sex, a lot of like
Speaker 1: it's just so what gets me is it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to give it away, but you're seeing, you know,
Speaker 1: this girl full in love with a guy, yeah, but
Speaker 1: then like he's got like an ex girlfriend that he's
Speaker 1: kind of involved with, and it's I don't know, so
Speaker 1: like messy love story, very messy, but it's very I've
Speaker 1: never kind of seen it from this perspective where you
Speaker 1: really see him like with her and then with her,
Speaker 1: and usually when that happens, you don't like that person.
Speaker 1: But for some.
Speaker 2: Reason I like him.
Speaker 1: I like him because there's something there that makes me
Speaker 1: feel for him or that they've added in somehow to
Speaker 1: the story.
Speaker 2: It's just very refreshing because I think it's a.
Speaker 1: Very normal human feeling to you know, like someone but
Speaker 1: like someone else, if that makes sense, Like you can
Speaker 1: almost not be in love with two people, because I
Speaker 1: don't be in love with someone but also have a
Speaker 1: bit of a crush on someone. Well, I think just
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people can resonate where
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be very transparent because when you know,
Speaker 1: my previous boyfriend, like he broke up with me and
Speaker 1: it was like super messy, and I literally started talking
Speaker 1: to Tim to make him jealous, but then I fell
Speaker 1: in love with Tim because it was so close together.
Speaker 1: There was definitely like strands of me and the ex
Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Yeah, like you're still attached a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, because you've had like a whole relationship.
Speaker 1: Obviously I wasn't fucking yeah. Yeah, it's very different to
Speaker 1: the show, let's make that clear.
Speaker 2: But I can I guess you.
Speaker 1: It's just like a very normal human experience if you
Speaker 1: have been in that where you want to explore this
Speaker 1: new thing, but if this person is coming in out
Speaker 1: of your life, you kind of are not ready to
Speaker 1: let go. And I've just never really seen that in
Speaker 1: a TV show where it's not villified. That's cool, I'll
Speaker 1: give it a go. Yeah, I'd be interested to see
Speaker 1: what you think anyway. Yeah, so I've been watching that
Speaker 1: and that's been a bit of fun. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: let's get into the hotline. Our first question A bit
Speaker 1: of a long question but important context. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of a long story, but basically, she did she did
Speaker 1: warn us.
Speaker 3: My older sister is dating this guy and they have
Speaker 3: been together for almost two years. It's really serious, and
Speaker 3: they talk about marriage and they are literally obsessed with
Speaker 3: each other. They don't do a single thing without each other.
Speaker 3: My whole family does not like her. Boyfriend. He's not
Speaker 3: very nice to my mom. He doesn't say hi to
Speaker 3: my mom or acknowledge her. He's very controlling and it's
Speaker 3: like it has to be his way or you're wrong.
Speaker 3: It's so bad to the point where for my other
Speaker 3: siblings birthday, he threw a fit about where we were
Speaker 3: going to eat because it wasn't where he thought we
Speaker 3: should go to eat. That has happened so many times.
Speaker 3: We've tried to go on vacations and plan out trips,
Speaker 3: but it has to be where he wants to go,
Speaker 3: and wherever my mom wants is wrong or not good enough.
Speaker 3: He can be mean and loves to tease myself and
Speaker 3: my two younger siblings, but to the point where it's
Speaker 3: her full things. My sister just defends him to me.
Speaker 1: He seems very insecure and it feels like he has
Speaker 1: my sister on a tight leash, and it's very adamant
Speaker 1: about the things she does. However, this is the happiest
Speaker 1: she has ever been, and he is good to my sister,
Speaker 1: but is not nice to other people. My entire family
Speaker 1: does not like him, including my extended family. It has
Speaker 1: now become a whole fight between myself, my mum and
Speaker 1: my sister because we mentioned to her our concerns, where
Speaker 1: she got extremely defensive, saying it's been hard for him
Speaker 1: to get used to how sensitive we are. Also keep
Speaker 1: in mind that we did not grow up with any
Speaker 1: brothers or a father figure and had a rough childhood
Speaker 1: with our dad who was narcissistic. So I feel like
Speaker 1: she is choosing the wrong guy because of that. I
Speaker 1: voiced my concerns to her and she says he is
Speaker 1: not controlling at all, but I think she is blind
Speaker 1: to it. How would you navigate this? How can my
Speaker 1: family move on? Because she has made it clear that
Speaker 1: he is not going anywhere. I also forgot to mention something.
Speaker 1: My sister got her dream job offer. She is currently
Speaker 1: working as a manager at a gym, where she has
Speaker 1: been for seven years. She's always dreamed of becoming a
Speaker 1: florist and got in with this amazing company who was
Speaker 1: going to teach her everything. It was paying amazing and
Speaker 1: the only thing was it was forty five minutes away
Speaker 1: from where she lives. Her boyfriend did not really want
Speaker 1: her to take this job, as he felt it was
Speaker 1: too risky, but told her whatever would make her happy.
Speaker 1: She ended up taking the job, and when I asked
Speaker 1: if he was happy for her, she replied with, he is,
Speaker 1: but is worried we won't spend that much time together anymore.
Speaker 1: It was so upsetting because he was totally holding her
Speaker 1: back from living her dream life. She found out that
Speaker 1: this new job does not pay for holidays like Christmas,
Speaker 1: and she declined the job offer her dream job. She
Speaker 1: totally sabotaged it for herself because it seems like her
Speaker 1: boyfriend didn't want her to take it. Wow, there's just
Speaker 1: like so much to unpack here, so much. First of all,
Speaker 1: it just really upsets me that he's mean to her
Speaker 1: mom me too, Like if your mom is like, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not too worried about the siblings, it's the mom
Speaker 1: that I need respect for. Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 3: Because it's easy for people to sort of disagree with
Speaker 3: people's siblings about stuff. Yeah, but when it's a parent,
Speaker 3: you kind of just have to keep quiet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're always right, unless it's like, you know, abusive,
Speaker 1: abusive correct. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, I feel so bad.
Speaker 1: This is actually such a hard situation because there's one
Speaker 1: side of you know, you obviously care about your sibling,
Speaker 1: and there's a situation there where it's like her relationship
Speaker 1: and whatnot, but also there's another side of it's her
Speaker 1: own life. Yeah, and if she has, if you have
Speaker 1: voiced your concerns and she still chooses to be with
Speaker 1: this guy, then you almost need to respect that and
Speaker 1: find a way to not let it affect you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so hard. It's so hard.
Speaker 2: That's why I feel very much like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly don't know what i'd do, because I
Speaker 1: would just say, like my immediate responses confront her, But
Speaker 1: they've already done.
Speaker 2: That, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if she has said no, he's not controlling,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, two years so it's not there's no more rose
Speaker 3: colored glasses, Like surely those would have come off by now.
Speaker 1: I would like to know how old she is, Oh,
Speaker 1: fair point, because if she is quite young, and if
Speaker 1: this is her only relationship, you know, this person has
Speaker 1: said there was problems with their father, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: she has daddy issues where Yeah, if you grow up
Speaker 1: not having a good example of a male figure, you
Speaker 1: tend to then attract that in a partner. I think
Speaker 1: that's very like psychology when I want, isn't it so
Speaker 1: that would be like my only thing. But also if
Speaker 1: she is a bit older and it's like this is
Speaker 1: her life, you almost need to respect her decision. And
Speaker 1: I think there's only so much you can do with
Speaker 1: you know, bring it up to her like she has
Speaker 1: and the only other thing she could possibly do is
Speaker 1: like put boundaries in with the boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what I would say to, like, put
Speaker 3: boundaries in when it comes to your family outings and stuff.
Speaker 3: When he starts throwing a tantrum about where you're going
Speaker 3: to eat, just ignore it, because that's what you do
Speaker 3: when a toddler throws a tantrum, You just ignore it.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be like polling him. I'd just be like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's what's Yeah's birthday and we're going here seven pm.
Speaker 1: If you can make it amazing, If not, all good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you mean I think they're taking the power out
Speaker 1: of not even giving him a say yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's fair enough it's not your birthday. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then like if he has a little bit of
Speaker 3: a tiff, just let him and ignore it, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and more focusing on how you can protect your energy
Speaker 3: from that negative energy and ignore his bad vibes. When
Speaker 3: he has those tantrums, because if you ignore it enough,
Speaker 3: it'll stop. He'll realize it's getting him nowhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think this is really sad because she
Speaker 1: obviously has a relationship with her sister. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: would be really hard to continue that relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: when this is happening. But I don't know what else
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Maybe you could have some girl trips
Speaker 1: like your mom, all the sisters have a weekend away
Speaker 1: just girl time, and that's how you can sort of
Speaker 1: maintain that relationship with your sister without her boyfriend. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that advice, Like, think how you can maintain
Speaker 1: it without the boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then just focus on that. Just be there
Speaker 3: to support her, because I feel like it's sort of
Speaker 3: at the point where if you push any.
Speaker 1: More, you might lose her. You might lose your sister.
Speaker 3: And the last thing you want is her if she
Speaker 3: realizes this relationship isn't for me to have no one
Speaker 3: to lean on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Love. The only thing I would add
Speaker 1: to is, yeah, it's a hard situation, but also you
Speaker 1: need to I don't know if you're gree with the sitia,
Speaker 1: but like you need to respect that that it's her
Speaker 1: decision of who she's with. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: Obviously she's older, Like if she's like seventeen, yeah, you
Speaker 3: have a bit more control. Yeah, But I the way
Speaker 3: it's been described, I don't think so. If she's been
Speaker 3: working as a gym manager for seven years, it sounds
Speaker 3: like she's.
Speaker 1: Like at least mid twenties, late twenties. Yeah, sad days.
Speaker 1: Sad day question number two. I found this one super interesting.
Speaker 1: So it's not like I have any body image problems.
Speaker 1: I just have this goal to reach. I've reached my
Speaker 1: money goals, boyfriend goals, handstanding goals. I love that she
Speaker 1: just put in brackets. I'm an active gal and have
Speaker 1: been living a healthy lifestyle for seven years now, and
Speaker 1: all the other things, even a free parking space. Love that.
Speaker 1: But when I get to this, I kind of feel
Speaker 1: that I don't know how to do it or what
Speaker 1: to think about. I try to be like if I
Speaker 1: was a girl that was sixty five kilos, then I'd
Speaker 1: be able to do this and that and look a
Speaker 1: certain way. I have had small success with it for
Speaker 1: a while, but then I get back to almost where
Speaker 1: I started it. I think I need Gee's wisdom on
Speaker 1: the topic, plus tars Vibe, Love You Girls, and the
Speaker 1: Hotline to the Moon. I love that she called you Tea.
Speaker 1: I've never even thought about that, but of course that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, people called me that in school until
Speaker 1: someone else in my class his name was Tea and
Speaker 1: then confusion. But also, it's not to you. It's a dog,
Speaker 1: So just get that right. And that's on that question.
Speaker 1: I I hate this because it's like, why are we
Speaker 1: all still weighing ourselves? I don't know. I have very
Speaker 1: mixed emotions about this because I just think if you're
Speaker 1: thinking I need to be a certain weight to do things,
Speaker 1: I just think it's a bit problematic. I agree. Do
Speaker 1: you agree or no?
Speaker 3: I think needing to be a certain weight is not
Speaker 3: the best for your mental health. But I don't see
Speaker 3: an issue in wanting to be a certain roundabout size, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Like you say I feel my
Speaker 1: best when i'm a size eight to ta, I'm yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to counter you here and say, if
Speaker 1: you're thinking so, let's say it's not weight. Let's say
Speaker 1: she's saying I want to be a size M or whatever.
Speaker 1: If you're thinking you need to be that size before
Speaker 1: you're able to do something. I think that's where the
Speaker 1: issue is.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, Like it shouldn't limit you from doing things.
Speaker 3: But there's nothing wrong with wanting that for yourself. Oh,
Speaker 3: everyone can want what the fuck they want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big advocate for like you do you,
Speaker 1: But I think it's very clear from what she's saying
Speaker 1: here it's coming from a place of I need to
Speaker 1: be this size and then I can do this and
Speaker 1: look a certain way, etc. Yeah, And I'm just worried
Speaker 1: the deeper roots of that is programming from society that
Speaker 1: when you're this size you're able to do this, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is not correct. Yeah, and something that would be
Speaker 1: keeping her small, oh for sure, Whereas it's like, actually,
Speaker 1: you have so much power in being exactly who you are,
Speaker 1: whatever size you are and doing the thing. Yeah. It
Speaker 1: just is a really tough one to work through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's it comes down to programming and like really
Speaker 1: unlearning that can be so difficult, and because like I
Speaker 1: had to teach myself this, yeah, and especially about like
Speaker 1: wearing shirts that not even cropped, but just like having
Speaker 1: pants and not have a shirt cover my stomach when
Speaker 1: wearing pants. I know, that's a super weird way to
Speaker 1: say it. Do you know what I mean? What like
Speaker 1: not wearing like a mid drift, not a mid drip,
Speaker 1: not even a mid drift, like I still haven't ever
Speaker 1: water midrif, like wearing a crop shirt and wearing pants
Speaker 1: that meet the crop shirt and not wearing like what
Speaker 1: I'm wearing now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I had to work this, Yeah, I had
Speaker 3: to work to get myself to think that I could
Speaker 3: wear that and not.
Speaker 1: Have to wear like a big baggy shirt over my pants.
Speaker 1: I get what you're talking about, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like it's about cleansing your socials actually looking it.
Speaker 1: What got you thinking that way? I think, like why,
Speaker 1: I don't know why is.
Speaker 3: Because it's the media, right, It's yea what we also
Speaker 3: go up with where the magazine girls on the front
Speaker 3: cover were skinny. Only ever, like only now have I
Speaker 3: felt like every almost every brand I now follow has
Speaker 3: inclusivity and models of different sizes mostly yeah, like not all,
Speaker 3: and it's still an issue. Like when you look at
Speaker 3: runway models, they're starting to be inclusive in other ways,
Speaker 3: but I still feel like they're not inclusive in size
Speaker 3: yet most brands, whereas Instagram brands are a lot more
Speaker 3: inclusive in size, Like you'll see a model that's a
Speaker 3: size eight, a model that's a size ten, the model
Speaker 3: side's twelve fourteen in the same outfit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like more of a thing now. I think
Speaker 1: it's like, I think it's okay if she has a
Speaker 1: fitness or health goal. Like again, it's like you do,
Speaker 1: you glowed to want what we want. My issue is just, yeah,
Speaker 1: this underlying thing where she's like, then I'll be able
Speaker 1: to do this and then look a certain way, and
Speaker 1: it just makes me so sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to you have to look that way
Speaker 3: before you're that size for you to ever feel good.
Speaker 1: Well, you've You've even spoken about this on a previous
Speaker 1: episode of Tire is like how you had to go
Speaker 1: really through this journey of accepting yourself now and working
Speaker 1: through being yourself. Yeah, and like I have to, Like
Speaker 1: I'm literally currently going through it with being postpartum and
Speaker 1: previous to that. It's like this constant journey.
Speaker 3: It is, and it's about being happy with you now
Speaker 3: so that you in the future comes quicker, but not
Speaker 3: fixating and fantasizing on this future version of you. That's
Speaker 3: this size and doesn't have stretch marks, or it doesn't
Speaker 3: have this, or it doesn't have that, like it's it
Speaker 3: can happen, but it's not gonna happen unless you fix
Speaker 3: your in side mentality about it first, like or like
Speaker 3: she said, it's she's sort of yogo's with it. She'll
Speaker 3: get there and then she'll like go back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just I'd love to know like the
Speaker 1: underlying reason of why she thinks this. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, my top tips would just be cleanser socials. Find
Speaker 3: some models that are maybe on the bigger size and
Speaker 3: follow them and just absorb different ideals of beauty because.
Speaker 1: But also this thing of if I was that girl,
Speaker 1: I would be able to do this thing. I'd also
Speaker 1: love to know what's the thing. Yeah, and then I
Speaker 1: guarantee you'll find someone who's done the thing who is
Speaker 1: not that size. If that makes sense. Yes, like almost
Speaker 1: us to every every hotline, find an expander. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: also like, for example, one of my favorite books that
Speaker 1: really freed me from my obsessive thoughts with needing to
Speaker 1: be a stain and size or a certain weight was
Speaker 1: this book called The Fuck It Diet by Caroline Dunner.
Speaker 1: Have you read it. No, Oh, it's so good. It's
Speaker 1: she's she's like a dietitianal nutritionists, and she really talks
Speaker 1: about how we are programmed to want to be a
Speaker 1: certain size and do these certain things, and she does
Speaker 1: teach you how to reprogram it. And I remember reading it.
Speaker 1: It was probably only three or four years ago, and
Speaker 1: I remember crying reading it because I just was so
Speaker 1: drained at the fact that I had let my programming
Speaker 1: kind of and I talk about this all the time
Speaker 1: of you know, for so long I was I thought
Speaker 1: I just had to be smaller. I just need to
Speaker 1: be smaller and I'll achieve the goal. I just need
Speaker 1: to be, you know, skinnier and I'll have more followers.
Speaker 1: I just need to be skinnier and I'll get that
Speaker 1: brand deal.
Speaker 2: I just need this.
Speaker 1: And it's fun because I even did a reel about
Speaker 1: this the other day where I it was you know
Speaker 1: that trend where it's like, you know, I want something
Speaker 1: on sorry, I want something like oh I didn't reach
Speaker 1: this skull, or I want something, and then it goes
Speaker 1: back to a photo of your younger self being like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know you even got somewhere that
Speaker 1: I wanted to be. Yeah, So my whole thing was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wish more people knew about naked harvest. And then
Speaker 1: it was a photo of previous me, who was really
Speaker 1: in her diet culture stage, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: would have been like fifteen kilos lighter and really into oh,
Speaker 1: I just need to be smaller. And her if she
Speaker 1: would have seen, oh, you've literally created a natural supplements
Speaker 1: company that focus says on empowering women. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: fifteen kilos heavier, do you know what I mean? Like yeah,
Speaker 1: like it didn't matter in the first place. No, And
Speaker 1: it's like, actually, once I embraced myself because I again,
Speaker 1: she's trying to change herself, which again I think is
Speaker 1: fine at times, but you need to know the underlying reason. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so once I embraced myself and I just like
Speaker 1: fucking did life and focused on other things, Like the
Speaker 1: end goal came, which was really not what I thought
Speaker 1: it was. The end goal was not being smaller, no,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense, But for so long I thought
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted, Like that was the block to
Speaker 1: you achieving your wildest desires was how big you were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like not, it was the block was me
Speaker 1: thinking I needed to be smaller? Yes, so true. So
Speaker 1: that's my only concern now is I'm thinking, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's my two cents. Take what you want
Speaker 1: from it. I think in saying that, I do agree
Speaker 1: with you at TEA. I think there's, you know, times
Speaker 1: where you're allowed to want a fitness goal just because
Speaker 1: you fucking want a fitness goal. If that makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't I one hundred percent agree when you say,
Speaker 1: don't let it stop you from doing anything else like that.
Speaker 1: It can be simultaneously. You can be.
Speaker 3: Working towards that this goal while also getting everything you
Speaker 3: want like that, this and that, and the looking a
Speaker 3: certain way.
Speaker 1: You can still look like that without being the way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I would argue my experience is when I embrace myself,
Speaker 1: my world changed so much for the better and those
Speaker 1: things no longer had a hold over me. Yeah. Love
Speaker 1: that question me too. Last question, I have a question
Speaker 1: for you that would be so helpful to hear your
Speaker 1: thoughts on. Have you ever manifested something and it turned
Speaker 1: out to be not at all how you expected it
Speaker 1: and not at all what you thought you wanted? What
Speaker 1: happens next? Do you have any experiences you can share.
Speaker 1: I love this question so much. Me too. I actually
Speaker 1: was thinking I need to tell this story on the podcast,
Speaker 1: but find a way to like not what's my segue? Yes,
Speaker 1: and then you picked this question Tea love it with sect. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I remember at the start of I can't actually
Speaker 1: remember what year it was. Maybe I'll just be vague
Speaker 1: because I can't actually let you know the details. Okay, No,
Speaker 1: it's just let me just explain. So at the start
Speaker 1: of the year, it wouldn't have been at the start
Speaker 1: of this year, it would have been the start at
Speaker 1: last Yeah, I sat down with my partnerships manager. So
Speaker 1: my partnerships manager what she does is she controls my
Speaker 1: collaborations in box. So when a brand wants to work
Speaker 1: with me, she liaises with them. And for so long
Speaker 1: I did that myself and then I got a partnerships manager.
Speaker 1: Best thing of my life because it just it meant
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing it. I wasn't bargaining because also there's
Speaker 1: prices involved. I'm not like bargaining for myself, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense anyway, that's a side note. So at the
Speaker 1: start of the year, she was like, I want you
Speaker 1: to do a vision board of like your dream brands
Speaker 1: to work with, and I want you to think really big,
Speaker 1: like let's reach for the stars. And I put a
Speaker 1: certain brand on there that was so in alignment that
Speaker 1: made sense, but it was like hugely I donuldn't say
Speaker 1: out of my league, but like just hugely, such an
Speaker 1: amazing brand to work with. It was fully in alignment anyway,
Speaker 1: So that was on there, and it was kind of
Speaker 1: just like, oh, you know, put that, you know, put
Speaker 1: it on there, like yeah, in comparison, think of like Quantus, right, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but obviously not Quantus. Anyway, that brand ended up approaching
Speaker 1: us stop and I was like, are you kidding? You know,
Speaker 1: sent my rate card, paying full rates, locking lots of
Speaker 1: deliverables in and I was like, this is incredible. I
Speaker 1: manifested this. I'm so concerned. Fast forward to dealing with
Speaker 1: the company, you know, the agency they were dealing with
Speaker 1: doing the deliverables. And after worse experience of my life, Oh,
Speaker 1: worse experience of my life. That's really dramatic, worse experience,
Speaker 1: We're dealing with a brand just like wow.
Speaker 2: Going back and forth, for.
Speaker 1: Example, they were trying to be like really controlling with
Speaker 1: the content and I was producing. They wanted me to
Speaker 1: like reshoot content in a way that I would never
Speaker 1: actually produce content. I would have to be a yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'd never do that on my social media,
Speaker 1: and my social media is me like I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do something I'd never do, if that makes sense, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just I don't know. Very difficult, very difficult to
Speaker 1: deal with, and a very unpleasant experience. And it's crazy
Speaker 1: because looking back, I then never did a vision board
Speaker 1: of working with brands again because I was like, it's
Speaker 1: not about the specific brand for me. I crave connection
Speaker 1: and I crave like authenticity. So for example, the next
Speaker 1: time I did any sort of exercise, I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to work with a brand who respects me,
Speaker 1: who is in alignment with me, who you know, And
Speaker 1: I had all these sort of like what's the feeling
Speaker 1: because that was such a great experience of manifesting something
Speaker 1: that I thought I want that I was actually like,
Speaker 1: oh no, this is not what I want. This is
Speaker 1: not it, This is not it. And it was such
Speaker 1: a great reminder to be like, no, don't manifest from
Speaker 1: your ego of oh I want this, because you know
Speaker 1: people will think I'm great or it will validate me
Speaker 1: in some way, but manifest from the way of I
Speaker 1: want to work with a brand that respects me, that
Speaker 1: has the same vision as me. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: after I re established that, that's when you know brand
Speaker 1: deal's like ped and Pup and the co lab came
Speaker 1: in and it was like a maternity line and I
Speaker 1: was pregnant and I fell in love with their team
Speaker 1: and similar with like LISKD. I'd been working for them,
Speaker 1: you know for two years, and then it just like
Speaker 1: came out and I am obsessed with Jason, Yeah, the founder.
Speaker 1: I had to think that we've had we've had them
Speaker 1: on the potty. I feel like we're all obsessed with them.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy because because that needed to happen for
Speaker 1: me to realize, oh no, you actually don't want to
Speaker 1: work with these big companies that give no fucks about you.
Speaker 1: You want to work with companies that have the same
Speaker 1: vision and that like pique you because they like who
Speaker 1: you are and they and they believe in your message.
Speaker 1: And that's even something like when I had Jason on
Speaker 1: the potty and we spoke about my collection, like He's like,
Speaker 1: we believe in your message because I literally said to him,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I have some like imposter syndrome
Speaker 1: because I'm not the fittest I've ever been and I'm
Speaker 1: bringing out an active work collection. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's why we love you. Yeah, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh so sweet. But then I like that. I think
Speaker 1: that needed to happen for me to have that realization.
Speaker 1: So I think when you manifest things that you're like,
Speaker 1: oh fuck, this is not what I thought needs to
Speaker 1: teach you a lesson? Yes, in it like in the
Speaker 1: best way possible of you realizing, oh, I actually don't
Speaker 1: want that. I don't have the cceassity of the universe.
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to give you exactly what you want,
Speaker 1: so you don't like it. Do you want to know
Speaker 1: what the brand was? It was and Georgie loose lips, Jamie,
Speaker 1: you better fleep that out. I'm the worst, so I
Speaker 1: can't have secrets. This is why no one tells me anything.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would just say learn from it. Be like, hmm,
Speaker 1: what's the lesson here? Because if you don't, the universe
Speaker 1: is going to keep giving it to you and you're
Speaker 1: going to be like, oh my god, manifesting doesn't work,
Speaker 1: or I keep manifesting the wrong things. It's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just gotta learn from that, and I hope you
Speaker 1: want it. Thanks for listening, but thank you so much
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