1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: The Rise and Conquer Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: the land which this episode is being recorded, the Yugen 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Bear region. We further acknowledge country throughout Australia and their 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respect 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: to their elders past and present and extend that respect 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: to all Aboriginal and terrest Rate Islander peoples today. Hello 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: This is the podcast for ordinary. 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: People who want to do extraordinary things. I hate this 10 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: because it's like, why we all still weigh ourseuse. I 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I have very mixed emotions about this because 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: I just think if your thinking I need to be 13 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: a certain weight to do things, I just think it's 14 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: a bit problematic. Hello and welcome back to the Rise 15 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: and Conquer Potty. It is your host Georgie Stevenson, and 16 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: we are back today with a hot line EP. These 17 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: are our fun Friday epps where you send in your 18 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: life dilemmas and me and producer A Tea provide you 19 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: with our very unqualified two cents on the situation. Hello 20 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: a Tia. 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: Hello, So guys. 22 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Today on the episode we chat about problematic partners manifesting, 23 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: weight loss, and also what to do when you're manifestation 24 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: is something you thought you wanted, it turns out you didn't. 25 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: And I've got a very fun story for you. I 26 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: didn't give you my week update in Tuesday's episode because 27 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: you can probably tell by my voice. She's a bit husky, 28 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: bit sick, bit sexy. I sound like my partnership's manager, 29 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: Ja Center. Her voice like kind of just sounds like 30 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: this all the time, like husky, and I love it, 31 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: so I'm not mad about it. But yeah, no, I 32 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: was quite sick. I think it was just like me. 33 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: My immunity was quite low because you girls been busy, Yeah, 34 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: and you just run down, Yeah exactly. And I was like, 35 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: physically I wasn't too bad. It's just like my voice 36 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: left my body. It's like bye, bitch. So week was great. 37 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: We on the weekend we launched our candylanth collection was 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: so awesome in Naked Harvest. Obviously, we had a big 39 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: candy Land Carnival event. What did you think of the event? 40 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: A teer, so much fun, so much fun, literally best ever. 41 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: And Tea was a little helper at the event, so 42 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: running around it. But I didn't get to do. She 43 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: joined the NH team for the day. Very helpful, but 44 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: it was very surreal. It was like, you know, obviously, 45 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: walk into a planning event is just wild. What goes 46 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: into planning an event is Craig Kray, which is to 47 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: be honest, why we have never done one because it 48 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: just it gives me exciting thinking about planning event. But 49 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: it went so well. It did. It went so well, 50 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: and I just the feedback we got from you know, 51 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: the ambassadors and everyone there was like they said, it 52 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: felt like an event where they were just like around 53 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: their besties and it was like super casual. Because this 54 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: is a little secret, but I hate influencer events. I 55 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: feel like you've said that I'm probably out. It's not 56 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: a secret. I don't know. I just like never vibed them, 57 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: which is just you see me not going to many 58 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: like you know, big launches or anything, because oh, if 59 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I've got spare time, you can bet I'm going to 60 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: spend it with like Ivy and Tim or like my 61 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: best friends, not at an event with random people who yeah, 62 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: you know are all just like it's just small talk 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: for two yeah, for their own agenda, which is fine. 64 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: I only ever go to events like I. 65 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: Very much believe in. 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: But it was just so cool to have everyone there, 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, and the reveal went so well and I 68 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: did my little speech and it was just, yeah, it 69 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: was really cool. I'm just so proud of NHTM. They 70 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: just they pulled it together. We had a couple of 71 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: mishaps the night before, but we won't go there holy shit. 72 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it was spectacular. And then the candy 73 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: collection launched and we've got five brand new products, and yeah, 74 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: it's just it's been a big, big week. But obviously 75 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: just finally kind of breathe for the next month or so. Yeah, 76 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: I've got no official launches coming up except obviously, you know, 77 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Black Friday for Naked Harvest, got some exciting things for 78 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: Iron c Should we just tell them no? 79 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 2: Should we just tell them a tr No? 80 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: I want to tell them, Okay, we can't. He was 81 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: exactly like, mel this tell them no. All talk literally 82 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: all talk. Recommendation for the week, the sour peach free 83 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: work out. I love it, the stim free stim free. 84 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: It's like my new favorite flavor. Is it because it's 85 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: stim free or just a flavor? 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: No, just the flavor. Truly, I thought I loved. I 87 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: love sour worms, but I love sour peach. 88 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: Really so much, such a good flavor. 89 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: I feel like they're quite different. 90 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: So sour worm is just like very in your face 91 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: and then sour peach is subtle. Yeah, but it's so good. 92 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: And I find like Courtney really hit the nail on 93 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: the head on Saturday because I tried the sour peach 94 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: for the first time because I hadn't tried it before Saturday, 95 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: but I'd had sour worm, and. 96 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: I was like, what does this taste like? She's like 97 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: your childhood and I was like, that's literally it. I 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: like that I don't know. 99 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: What from when I was a kid that this was, 100 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: because I obviously didn't eat the sour peach allies when 101 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: I was little, but yeah. 102 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: It just brings her back. Yeah, well, that's like the 103 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: whole notion is just so nostalgic. It just brings everything back, 104 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: and especially for me and Cooper because we grew up 105 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: with a very health conscious mum who like to have lollies. 106 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Was so special and so exciting. So like the inner 107 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: child of me just like dies over this collection because 108 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: it is so exciting and I have to stop myself 109 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: from drinking too much free workout. Oh my god, guys, 110 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: I literally am gonna read to you me honest sugar high, 111 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: essentially full context. I have had pre workout in the past, 112 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: but I've never done it with the purpose of working 113 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: out after. I've just drank it like juice or something 114 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: throughout the day. It's like a little pepper of energy 115 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: and it's been like half a serve. And I had 116 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: my first ever full serve of pre workout before I 117 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: work out. I think it was last week. Yeah, so 118 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Tea text me Monday seven, nineteen pm. Oh my god, 119 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: I'm like what. I textwork so fast too, because I 120 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: was like, what what's happened with the podcast. She's like, 121 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: first time today I actually use pre workout properly, and 122 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: then in caps it was amazing. And then I just 123 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: did the laughing face and she's like, I did my 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: workout in forty five minutes. Thirty five minutes, and then 125 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: she did laughing face and then she's like, life changing, literally, 126 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: life change. Literally. The conversation we had the day before 127 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: was you were saying your workouts were taking you an 128 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: hour long and a half and You're like, I don't 129 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: know if I can keep doing this, I know because 130 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: I was like, that's actually ridiculous. It was too long. 131 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: How are you meant to get anything in life done? 132 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: But I think the other thing that I did, which 133 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: I if my fitness coaches listening to this, please, this 134 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: is what I didn't stop, like twelve reps of something 135 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: I just did forty eight. No, well, that's like sometimes 136 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: I do that if it's like I've just got to 137 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: get the workout done. 138 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I mean I should be going heavier, 139 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: but it's fine. 140 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: And then I was like, I did the workout. I'm like, 141 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: did you take normal pre workout or free? And she's 142 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: like normal. Then I was like, fuck ah, you're not 143 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: going to sleep very well. I did, and then she 144 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: she came in the next morning, was like, yeah, I 145 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: didn't sleep well, but that was a great worker Yes, guys, 146 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: this is why we have stim free workout. Don't do 147 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: what a tea did because it will, like pre workout 148 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: is going to affect your sleeves. Yeah, but if you're 149 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: a morning workout gao, you'd have a great day after. 150 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's why I'm so happy with the time of tea. Yeah, 151 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: crazy your recommendation. Oh yes, I'm going to go back 152 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: to a TV show, even though Jamie banned us from 153 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: recommending TV shows. 154 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: Actually, first of all. 155 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: My recommendation is the Mask Protein. Oh yeah, it is 156 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: so underrated, and I feel like so many of the 157 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: ambassadors at the event were like, oh, I was sus 158 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: on the flavor. Ye so sus and then they tried 159 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: it and they're like, holy shit, I don't know. 160 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: It just works. 161 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. It just works, and it's so 162 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: delicious and it's one of the few, you know, proteins 163 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: that you could literally just have it by itself, and 164 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: it's just it's so creamy, it's got so much flavor, 165 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: and it's so so delicious. So yeah, that's just that's 166 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: definitely my favor. But my recommendation is a TV show 167 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: called Tell Me Lies on Disney Pass. Have you heard I? 168 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: Have I heard of this? So it's a bit saucy, 169 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: A bit saucy. It's not our usual coming of age. 170 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: They're in college, so we've like we've gone up from 171 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: high school. A lot of sex, a lot of like 172 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: it's just so what gets me is it's like, I 173 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: don't want to give it away, but you're seeing, you know, 174 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: this girl full in love with a guy, yeah, but 175 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: then like he's got like an ex girlfriend that he's 176 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: kind of involved with, and it's I don't know, so 177 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: like messy love story, very messy, but it's very I've 178 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: never kind of seen it from this perspective where you 179 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: really see him like with her and then with her, 180 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: and usually when that happens, you don't like that person. 181 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: But for some. 182 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: Reason I like him. 183 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I like him because there's something there that makes me 184 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: feel for him or that they've added in somehow to 185 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: the story. 186 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: It's just very refreshing because I think it's a. 187 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: Very normal human feeling to you know, like someone but 188 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: like someone else, if that makes sense, Like you can 189 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: almost not be in love with two people, because I 190 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: don't be in love with someone but also have a 191 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: bit of a crush on someone. Well, I think just 192 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people can resonate where 193 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be very transparent because when you know, 194 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: my previous boyfriend, like he broke up with me and 195 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: it was like super messy, and I literally started talking 196 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: to Tim to make him jealous, but then I fell 197 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: in love with Tim because it was so close together. 198 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: There was definitely like strands of me and the ex 199 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Yeah, like you're still attached a 200 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, because you've had like a whole relationship. 201 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: Obviously I wasn't fucking yeah. Yeah, it's very different to 202 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: the show, let's make that clear. 203 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: But I can I guess you. 204 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: It's just like a very normal human experience if you 205 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: have been in that where you want to explore this 206 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: new thing, but if this person is coming in out 207 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: of your life, you kind of are not ready to 208 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: let go. And I've just never really seen that in 209 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: a TV show where it's not villified. That's cool, I'll 210 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: give it a go. Yeah, I'd be interested to see 211 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: what you think anyway. Yeah, so I've been watching that 212 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: and that's been a bit of fun. All right, guys, 213 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: let's get into the hotline. Our first question A bit 214 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: of a long question but important context. So it's kind 215 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: of a long story, but basically, she did she did 216 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: warn us. 217 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: My older sister is dating this guy and they have 218 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: been together for almost two years. It's really serious, and 219 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: they talk about marriage and they are literally obsessed with 220 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: each other. They don't do a single thing without each other. 221 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: My whole family does not like her. Boyfriend. He's not 222 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: very nice to my mom. He doesn't say hi to 223 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: my mom or acknowledge her. He's very controlling and it's 224 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: like it has to be his way or you're wrong. 225 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: It's so bad to the point where for my other 226 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: siblings birthday, he threw a fit about where we were 227 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: going to eat because it wasn't where he thought we 228 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: should go to eat. That has happened so many times. 229 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: We've tried to go on vacations and plan out trips, 230 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: but it has to be where he wants to go, 231 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: and wherever my mom wants is wrong or not good enough. 232 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: He can be mean and loves to tease myself and 233 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: my two younger siblings, but to the point where it's 234 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: her full things. My sister just defends him to me. 235 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: He seems very insecure and it feels like he has 236 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: my sister on a tight leash, and it's very adamant 237 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: about the things she does. However, this is the happiest 238 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: she has ever been, and he is good to my sister, 239 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: but is not nice to other people. My entire family 240 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: does not like him, including my extended family. It has 241 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: now become a whole fight between myself, my mum and 242 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: my sister because we mentioned to her our concerns, where 243 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: she got extremely defensive, saying it's been hard for him 244 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: to get used to how sensitive we are. Also keep 245 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: in mind that we did not grow up with any 246 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: brothers or a father figure and had a rough childhood 247 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: with our dad who was narcissistic. So I feel like 248 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: she is choosing the wrong guy because of that. I 249 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: voiced my concerns to her and she says he is 250 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: not controlling at all, but I think she is blind 251 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: to it. How would you navigate this? How can my 252 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: family move on? Because she has made it clear that 253 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: he is not going anywhere. I also forgot to mention something. 254 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: My sister got her dream job offer. She is currently 255 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: working as a manager at a gym, where she has 256 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: been for seven years. She's always dreamed of becoming a 257 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: florist and got in with this amazing company who was 258 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: going to teach her everything. It was paying amazing and 259 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: the only thing was it was forty five minutes away 260 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: from where she lives. Her boyfriend did not really want 261 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: her to take this job, as he felt it was 262 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: too risky, but told her whatever would make her happy. 263 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: She ended up taking the job, and when I asked 264 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: if he was happy for her, she replied with, he is, 265 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: but is worried we won't spend that much time together anymore. 266 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: It was so upsetting because he was totally holding her 267 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: back from living her dream life. She found out that 268 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: this new job does not pay for holidays like Christmas, 269 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: and she declined the job offer her dream job. She 270 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: totally sabotaged it for herself because it seems like her 271 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: boyfriend didn't want her to take it. Wow, there's just 272 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: like so much to unpack here, so much. First of all, 273 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: it just really upsets me that he's mean to her 274 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: mom me too, Like if your mom is like, like, 275 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm not too worried about the siblings, it's the mom 276 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: that I need respect for. Yeah, I know what you mean. 277 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: Because it's easy for people to sort of disagree with 278 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: people's siblings about stuff. Yeah, but when it's a parent, 279 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: you kind of just have to keep quiet. 280 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're always right, unless it's like, you know, abusive, 281 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: abusive correct. Yeah. 282 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I feel so bad. 283 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: This is actually such a hard situation because there's one 284 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: side of you know, you obviously care about your sibling, 285 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: and there's a situation there where it's like her relationship 286 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: and whatnot, but also there's another side of it's her 287 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: own life. Yeah, and if she has, if you have 288 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: voiced your concerns and she still chooses to be with 289 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: this guy, then you almost need to respect that and 290 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: find a way to not let it affect you. Yeah, 291 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: that's so hard. It's so hard. 292 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: That's why I feel very much like, oh. 293 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly don't know what i'd do, because I 294 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: would just say, like my immediate responses confront her, But 295 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: they've already done. 296 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: That, That's what I mean. 297 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if she has said no, he's not controlling, 298 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't. 299 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: Know, two years so it's not there's no more rose 300 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 3: colored glasses, Like surely those would have come off by now. 301 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I would like to know how old she is, Oh, 302 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: fair point, because if she is quite young, and if 303 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: this is her only relationship, you know, this person has 304 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: said there was problems with their father, you know, maybe 305 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: she has daddy issues where Yeah, if you grow up 306 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: not having a good example of a male figure, you 307 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: tend to then attract that in a partner. I think 308 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: that's very like psychology when I want, isn't it so 309 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: that would be like my only thing. But also if 310 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: she is a bit older and it's like this is 311 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: her life, you almost need to respect her decision. And 312 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: I think there's only so much you can do with 313 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, bring it up to her like she has 314 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: and the only other thing she could possibly do is 315 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: like put boundaries in with the boyfriend. 316 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what I would say to, like, put 317 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: boundaries in when it comes to your family outings and stuff. 318 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: When he starts throwing a tantrum about where you're going 319 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 3: to eat, just ignore it, because that's what you do 320 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: when a toddler throws a tantrum, You just ignore it. 321 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be like polling him. I'd just be like, hey, 322 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: it's what's Yeah's birthday and we're going here seven pm. 323 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: If you can make it amazing, If not, all good? Yeah, 324 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: do you mean I think they're taking the power out 325 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: of not even giving him a say yeah, yeah, because 326 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: that's fair enough it's not your birthday. Yeah. 327 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: And then like if he has a little bit of 328 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: a tiff, just let him and ignore it, yes, yeah, yeah, 329 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 3: and more focusing on how you can protect your energy 330 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: from that negative energy and ignore his bad vibes. When 331 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: he has those tantrums, because if you ignore it enough, 332 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: it'll stop. He'll realize it's getting him nowhere. 333 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think this is really sad because she 334 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: obviously has a relationship with her sister. Yeah, and that 335 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: would be really hard to continue that relationship, you know, 336 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: when this is happening. But I don't know what else 337 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Maybe you could have some girl trips 338 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: like your mom, all the sisters have a weekend away 339 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: just girl time, and that's how you can sort of 340 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: maintain that relationship with your sister without her boyfriend. Yeah. 341 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: I love that advice, Like, think how you can maintain 342 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: it without the boyfriend. 343 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then just focus on that. Just be there 344 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: to support her, because I feel like it's sort of 345 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: at the point where if you push any. 346 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: More, you might lose her. You might lose your sister. 347 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: And the last thing you want is her if she 348 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: realizes this relationship isn't for me to have no one 349 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: to lean on. 350 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Love. The only thing I would add 351 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: to is, yeah, it's a hard situation, but also you 352 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: need to I don't know if you're gree with the sitia, 353 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: but like you need to respect that that it's her 354 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: decision of who she's with. Yeah, I do. 355 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: Obviously she's older, Like if she's like seventeen, yeah, you 356 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: have a bit more control. Yeah, But I the way 357 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: it's been described, I don't think so. If she's been 358 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: working as a gym manager for seven years, it sounds 359 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 3: like she's. 360 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: Like at least mid twenties, late twenties. Yeah, sad days. 361 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: Sad day question number two. I found this one super interesting. 362 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: So it's not like I have any body image problems. 363 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: I just have this goal to reach. I've reached my 364 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: money goals, boyfriend goals, handstanding goals. I love that she 365 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: just put in brackets. I'm an active gal and have 366 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: been living a healthy lifestyle for seven years now, and 367 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: all the other things, even a free parking space. Love that. 368 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: But when I get to this, I kind of feel 369 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: that I don't know how to do it or what 370 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: to think about. I try to be like if I 371 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: was a girl that was sixty five kilos, then I'd 372 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: be able to do this and that and look a 373 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: certain way. I have had small success with it for 374 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: a while, but then I get back to almost where 375 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: I started it. I think I need Gee's wisdom on 376 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: the topic, plus tars Vibe, Love You Girls, and the 377 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: Hotline to the Moon. I love that she called you Tea. 378 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: I've never even thought about that, but of course that 379 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, people called me that in school until 380 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: someone else in my class his name was Tea and 381 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: then confusion. But also, it's not to you. It's a dog, 382 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: So just get that right. And that's on that question. 383 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: I I hate this because it's like, why are we 384 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: all still weighing ourselves? I don't know. I have very 385 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: mixed emotions about this because I just think if you're 386 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: thinking I need to be a certain weight to do things, 387 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: I just think it's a bit problematic. I agree. Do 388 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: you agree or no? 389 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: I think needing to be a certain weight is not 390 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 3: the best for your mental health. But I don't see 391 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: an issue in wanting to be a certain roundabout size, you. 392 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Like you say I feel my 393 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: best when i'm a size eight to ta, I'm yeah. 394 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: But I'm going to counter you here and say, if 395 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: you're thinking so, let's say it's not weight. Let's say 396 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: she's saying I want to be a size M or whatever. 397 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: If you're thinking you need to be that size before 398 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: you're able to do something. I think that's where the 399 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: issue is. 400 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, Like it shouldn't limit you from doing things. 401 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: But there's nothing wrong with wanting that for yourself. Oh, 402 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 3: everyone can want what the fuck they want. 403 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big advocate for like you do you, 404 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: But I think it's very clear from what she's saying 405 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: here it's coming from a place of I need to 406 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: be this size and then I can do this and 407 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: look a certain way, etc. Yeah, And I'm just worried 408 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: the deeper roots of that is programming from society that 409 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: when you're this size you're able to do this, yeah, 410 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: which is not correct. Yeah, and something that would be 411 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: keeping her small, oh for sure, Whereas it's like, actually, 412 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: you have so much power in being exactly who you are, 413 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: whatever size you are and doing the thing. Yeah. It 414 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: just is a really tough one to work through. Yeah, 415 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: And it's it comes down to programming and like really 416 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: unlearning that can be so difficult, and because like I 417 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: had to teach myself this, yeah, and especially about like 418 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: wearing shirts that not even cropped, but just like having 419 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: pants and not have a shirt cover my stomach when 420 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: wearing pants. I know, that's a super weird way to 421 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: say it. Do you know what I mean? What like 422 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: not wearing like a mid drift, not a mid drip, 423 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: not even a mid drift, like I still haven't ever 424 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: water midrif, like wearing a crop shirt and wearing pants 425 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: that meet the crop shirt and not wearing like what 426 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm wearing now. 427 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I had to work this, Yeah, I had 428 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: to work to get myself to think that I could 429 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: wear that and not. 430 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: Have to wear like a big baggy shirt over my pants. 431 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: I get what you're talking about, you know what I mean? Yeah, 432 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: So like it's about cleansing your socials actually looking it. 433 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: What got you thinking that way? I think, like why, 434 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why is. 435 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: Because it's the media, right, It's yea what we also 436 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: go up with where the magazine girls on the front 437 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: cover were skinny. Only ever, like only now have I 438 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: felt like every almost every brand I now follow has 439 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: inclusivity and models of different sizes mostly yeah, like not all, 440 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: and it's still an issue. Like when you look at 441 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: runway models, they're starting to be inclusive in other ways, 442 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: but I still feel like they're not inclusive in size 443 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: yet most brands, whereas Instagram brands are a lot more 444 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: inclusive in size, Like you'll see a model that's a 445 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: size eight, a model that's a size ten, the model 446 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: side's twelve fourteen in the same outfit. 447 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like more of a thing now. I think 448 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: it's like, I think it's okay if she has a 449 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: fitness or health goal. Like again, it's like you do, 450 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: you glowed to want what we want. My issue is just, yeah, 451 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: this underlying thing where she's like, then I'll be able 452 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: to do this and then look a certain way, and 453 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: it just makes me so sad. 454 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to you have to look that way 455 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: before you're that size for you to ever feel good. 456 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: Well, you've You've even spoken about this on a previous 457 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: episode of Tire is like how you had to go 458 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: really through this journey of accepting yourself now and working 459 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: through being yourself. Yeah, and like I have to, Like 460 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm literally currently going through it with being postpartum and 461 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: previous to that. It's like this constant journey. 462 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: It is, and it's about being happy with you now 463 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: so that you in the future comes quicker, but not 464 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: fixating and fantasizing on this future version of you. That's 465 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 3: this size and doesn't have stretch marks, or it doesn't 466 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: have this, or it doesn't have that, like it's it 467 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: can happen, but it's not gonna happen unless you fix 468 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: your in side mentality about it first, like or like 469 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: she said, it's she's sort of yogo's with it. She'll 470 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: get there and then she'll like go back. 471 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just I'd love to know like the 472 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: underlying reason of why she thinks this. Yeah. 473 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: Well, my top tips would just be cleanser socials. Find 474 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: some models that are maybe on the bigger size and 475 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: follow them and just absorb different ideals of beauty because. 476 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: But also this thing of if I was that girl, 477 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: I would be able to do this thing. I'd also 478 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: love to know what's the thing. Yeah, and then I 479 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: guarantee you'll find someone who's done the thing who is 480 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: not that size. If that makes sense. Yes, like almost 481 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: us to every every hotline, find an expander. Yeah. I 482 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: also like, for example, one of my favorite books that 483 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: really freed me from my obsessive thoughts with needing to 484 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: be a stain and size or a certain weight was 485 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: this book called The Fuck It Diet by Caroline Dunner. 486 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: Have you read it. No, Oh, it's so good. It's 487 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: she's she's like a dietitianal nutritionists, and she really talks 488 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: about how we are programmed to want to be a 489 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: certain size and do these certain things, and she does 490 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: teach you how to reprogram it. And I remember reading it. 491 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: It was probably only three or four years ago, and 492 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: I remember crying reading it because I just was so 493 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: drained at the fact that I had let my programming 494 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: kind of and I talk about this all the time 495 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: of you know, for so long I was I thought 496 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: I just had to be smaller. I just need to 497 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: be smaller and I'll achieve the goal. I just need 498 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: to be, you know, skinnier and I'll have more followers. 499 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: I just need to be skinnier and I'll get that 500 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: brand deal. 501 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: I just need this. 502 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: And it's fun because I even did a reel about 503 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: this the other day where I it was you know 504 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: that trend where it's like, you know, I want something 505 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: on sorry, I want something like oh I didn't reach 506 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: this skull, or I want something, and then it goes 507 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: back to a photo of your younger self being like, 508 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: oh my god, you know you even got somewhere that 509 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to be. Yeah, So my whole thing was like, oh, 510 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: I wish more people knew about naked harvest. And then 511 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: it was a photo of previous me, who was really 512 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: in her diet culture stage, and I was like, I 513 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: would have been like fifteen kilos lighter and really into oh, 514 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: I just need to be smaller. And her if she 515 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: would have seen, oh, you've literally created a natural supplements 516 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: company that focus says on empowering women. Yeah, and you're 517 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: fifteen kilos heavier, do you know what I mean? Like yeah, 518 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 1: like it didn't matter in the first place. No, And 519 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: it's like, actually, once I embraced myself because I again, 520 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: she's trying to change herself, which again I think is 521 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: fine at times, but you need to know the underlying reason. Yeah. 522 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: And so once I embraced myself and I just like 523 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: fucking did life and focused on other things, Like the 524 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: end goal came, which was really not what I thought 525 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: it was. The end goal was not being smaller, no, 526 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, But for so long I thought 527 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: that's what I wanted, Like that was the block to 528 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: you achieving your wildest desires was how big you were. Yeah, 529 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: but it's like not, it was the block was me 530 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: thinking I needed to be smaller? Yes, so true. So 531 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: that's my only concern now is I'm thinking, Yeah, I 532 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: don't know. That's my two cents. Take what you want 533 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: from it. I think in saying that, I do agree 534 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: with you at TEA. I think there's, you know, times 535 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: where you're allowed to want a fitness goal just because 536 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: you fucking want a fitness goal. If that makes sense. Yeah, 537 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: but don't I one hundred percent agree when you say, 538 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: don't let it stop you from doing anything else like that. 539 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: It can be simultaneously. You can be. 540 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: Working towards that this goal while also getting everything you 541 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: want like that, this and that, and the looking a 542 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: certain way. 543 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: You can still look like that without being the way. Yeah. 544 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: And I would argue my experience is when I embrace myself, 545 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: my world changed so much for the better and those 546 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: things no longer had a hold over me. Yeah. Love 547 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: that question me too. Last question, I have a question 548 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: for you that would be so helpful to hear your 549 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on. Have you ever manifested something and it turned 550 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: out to be not at all how you expected it 551 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: and not at all what you thought you wanted? What 552 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: happens next? Do you have any experiences you can share. 553 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: I love this question so much. Me too. I actually 554 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: was thinking I need to tell this story on the podcast, 555 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: but find a way to like not what's my segue? Yes, 556 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: and then you picked this question Tea love it with sect. Okay, 557 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: So I remember at the start of I can't actually 558 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: remember what year it was. Maybe I'll just be vague 559 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: because I can't actually let you know the details. Okay, No, 560 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: it's just let me just explain. So at the start 561 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: of the year, it wouldn't have been at the start 562 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: of this year, it would have been the start at 563 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: last Yeah, I sat down with my partnerships manager. So 564 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: my partnerships manager what she does is she controls my 565 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: collaborations in box. So when a brand wants to work 566 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: with me, she liaises with them. And for so long 567 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: I did that myself and then I got a partnerships manager. 568 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: Best thing of my life because it just it meant 569 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing it. I wasn't bargaining because also there's 570 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: prices involved. I'm not like bargaining for myself, if that 571 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: makes sense anyway, that's a side note. So at the 572 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: start of the year, she was like, I want you 573 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: to do a vision board of like your dream brands 574 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: to work with, and I want you to think really big, 575 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: like let's reach for the stars. And I put a 576 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: certain brand on there that was so in alignment that 577 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: made sense, but it was like hugely I donuldn't say 578 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: out of my league, but like just hugely, such an 579 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: amazing brand to work with. It was fully in alignment anyway, 580 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: So that was on there, and it was kind of 581 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: just like, oh, you know, put that, you know, put 582 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: it on there, like yeah, in comparison, think of like Quantus, right, okay, yeah, 583 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: but obviously not Quantus. Anyway, that brand ended up approaching 584 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: us stop and I was like, are you kidding? You know, 585 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: sent my rate card, paying full rates, locking lots of 586 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: deliverables in and I was like, this is incredible. I 587 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: manifested this. I'm so concerned. Fast forward to dealing with 588 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: the company, you know, the agency they were dealing with 589 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: doing the deliverables. And after worse experience of my life, Oh, 590 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: worse experience of my life. That's really dramatic, worse experience, 591 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: We're dealing with a brand just like wow. 592 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: Going back and forth, for. 593 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: Example, they were trying to be like really controlling with 594 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: the content and I was producing. They wanted me to 595 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: like reshoot content in a way that I would never 596 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: actually produce content. I would have to be a yeah, 597 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'd never do that on my social media, 598 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: and my social media is me like I'm not going 599 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: to do something I'd never do, if that makes sense, Yeah, 600 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: and just I don't know. Very difficult, very difficult to 601 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: deal with, and a very unpleasant experience. And it's crazy 602 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: because looking back, I then never did a vision board 603 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: of working with brands again because I was like, it's 604 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: not about the specific brand for me. I crave connection 605 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: and I crave like authenticity. So for example, the next 606 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: time I did any sort of exercise, I was like, 607 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: I want to work with a brand who respects me, 608 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: who is in alignment with me, who you know, And 609 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: I had all these sort of like what's the feeling 610 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: because that was such a great experience of manifesting something 611 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: that I thought I want that I was actually like, 612 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: oh no, this is not what I want. This is 613 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: not it, This is not it. And it was such 614 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: a great reminder to be like, no, don't manifest from 615 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: your ego of oh I want this, because you know 616 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: people will think I'm great or it will validate me 617 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: in some way, but manifest from the way of I 618 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: want to work with a brand that respects me, that 619 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: has the same vision as me. And it's funny because 620 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: after I re established that, that's when you know brand 621 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: deal's like ped and Pup and the co lab came 622 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: in and it was like a maternity line and I 623 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: was pregnant and I fell in love with their team 624 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: and similar with like LISKD. I'd been working for them, 625 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: you know for two years, and then it just like 626 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: came out and I am obsessed with Jason, Yeah, the founder. 627 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: I had to think that we've had we've had them 628 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: on the potty. I feel like we're all obsessed with them. 629 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: But it's crazy because because that needed to happen for 630 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: me to realize, oh no, you actually don't want to 631 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: work with these big companies that give no fucks about you. 632 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: You want to work with companies that have the same 633 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: vision and that like pique you because they like who 634 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: you are and they and they believe in your message. 635 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: And that's even something like when I had Jason on 636 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: the potty and we spoke about my collection, like He's like, 637 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: we believe in your message because I literally said to him, 638 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I have some like imposter syndrome 639 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: because I'm not the fittest I've ever been and I'm 640 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: bringing out an active work collection. And he's like, yeah, 641 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: but that's why we love you. Yeah, And I'm like, 642 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: oh so sweet. But then I like that. I think 643 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: that needed to happen for me to have that realization. 644 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: So I think when you manifest things that you're like, 645 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: oh fuck, this is not what I thought needs to 646 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: teach you a lesson? Yes, in it like in the 647 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: best way possible of you realizing, oh, I actually don't 648 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: want that. I don't have the cceassity of the universe. 649 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to give you exactly what you want, 650 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: so you don't like it. Do you want to know 651 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: what the brand was? It was and Georgie loose lips, Jamie, 652 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: you better fleep that out. I'm the worst, so I 653 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: can't have secrets. This is why no one tells me anything. 654 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would just say learn from it. Be like, hmm, 655 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: what's the lesson here? Because if you don't, the universe 656 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: is going to keep giving it to you and you're 657 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: going to be like, oh my god, manifesting doesn't work, 658 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: or I keep manifesting the wrong things. It's like, well, yeah, 659 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: you just gotta learn from that, and I hope you 660 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: want it. Thanks for listening, but thank you so much 661 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. 662 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed it and want more, come connect with 663 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Riseinconquer dot podcast and join our 664 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: Facebook discussion group, a Rise and Conquer podcast community. 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