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Speaker 1: very special Friday today because it is indeed the Camp.

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Speaker 1: It is back for twenty twenty three, an awesome day

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Speaker 2: And I'm very pleased to say that.

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Speaker 1: In the studio this morning for the CLP, we've got

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Speaker 1: Steve Edgington, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie, great to be back in.

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Speaker 1: Dawn, great to see you. We have got independent member

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Speaker 1: for our low and Robin Lamley, good morning. And we've

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Speaker 1: got another independent this morning. We got Keasier Furick as well.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you morning, Katy.

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Speaker 4: Morning bush people.

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Speaker 2: And then we've got for the ALP, Minister Selena Rubo.

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Speaker 5: Good morning to you morning, Katy, and shout out to

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Speaker 5: the Ktown crew. Please stay cool with that forty degrees today, Well.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's going to be very warm and

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Speaker 1: a massive swimming carnival on this weekend as well.

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Speaker 6: I think in Catherine, so plenty happening. Yes, no, swimming

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Speaker 6: lessons for our daughter. Because of the carnival. They're they're

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Speaker 6: coming from near and far for that carnival. So it'll

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Speaker 6: be fantastic, no doubt. But look, I want to start

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Speaker 6: know that Australians voted, and the Voice referendum was rejected

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Speaker 6: by the majority of voters in every state.

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Speaker 1: After millions of Australians backed a no vote, rejecting a

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Speaker 1: for the Prime Minister. The no vote was on track

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Speaker 1: When I check those numbers, sixty three point four percent

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Speaker 1: Now there is no doubt that the Prime Minister's got

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Speaker 1: He's not only got to unite the country, but he's

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Speaker 1: what was your reaction?

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Speaker 5: Thanks, Katie. You know, I was very deflated because of

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Speaker 5: the results. Obviously I was supporting yes and for the

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Speaker 5: various reasons of wanting to expediate change in this country.

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Speaker 5: As the Minister Forrabtion Affairs here in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 5: work very closely around close the gap. Many Australians would

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Speaker 5: but absolutely respect the outcome of the process. When we

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I was disappointed with the voice, but it

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Speaker 1: Think it was it was a failure from the federal

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Speaker 8: I think what it has demonstrated in the well in

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Speaker 1: I would have liked to have heard more from people

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Speaker 4: Because they're in touch with their communities, you know, thirty

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Speaker 8: what the hell are you voting yes for? You're in

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Speaker 2: You know so.

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Speaker 8: I think the federal government, Albanzi and his crew who

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Speaker 1: What were you hearing, Steve in a place like Tenant, Craig,

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Speaker 9: Well, I think Katie, over a long period of time,

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Speaker 9: But when it came to the Voice, people didn't really

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Speaker 9: So we saw a very high percentage of Yes voters

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Speaker 9: They do want to voice, they want change on the ground,

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Speaker 10: My view, CAD is it's done and dusted. We've spoken

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Speaker 10: So I think we just need to quickly move on.

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Speaker 10: We have lots of voices in the Northern Territory, Aboriginal voice,

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Speaker 10: them are quite capable. Marion Scrimser was marginalized because obviously

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Speaker 10: Marian says too much and she's.

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Speaker 2: Too lady honest.

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Speaker 10: But she should have been rolled out in hindsight, because

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Speaker 10: It should have been mitigated by someone like Marian. But

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Speaker 10: bit of a risk. God bless you, Marry, and I

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Speaker 10: it because you are honest and frank and real. But look,

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Speaker 10: I think we just have to move on, start working

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Speaker 5: Yes, all very interesting comments obviously from my parliamentary colleagues.

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Speaker 5: We're very conscious of the grassroots reason why this was

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Speaker 5: you know when it comes down to you know, the

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Speaker 5: every day Australia and the everyday Territorian. But it was

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Speaker 5: a grassroots campaign. It was around decision made from the

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Speaker 5: ullary statement of the Heart and it was the government

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Speaker 5: of the day Albanesi Labor government that brought that referendum up.

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Speaker 7: It has to be a government that brings a referendum

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Speaker 7: to light for the people.

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Speaker 5: But it wasn't something that was pushed by politicians. It

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Speaker 1: What do we make of the calls from Senator just

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Speaker 1: Enter Price this week for the Albanese government to hold

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Speaker 1: a royal commission into indigenous child sexual abuse.

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Speaker 2: It was voted down.

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Speaker 1: The NTI senator has also called for an audit of

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars being spent on programs for Indigenous Australians

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Speaker 1: and closing the gap after you know, after Saturday's referendum,

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Speaker 1: we spoke to just Enter Price on the show yesterday.

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Speaker 1: he was pretty scathing in his remarks to just Center

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Speaker 1: or in response to the senator, what.

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Speaker 2: Does everybody in the room make of?

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Speaker 10: No one's proposing another intervention, which I've heard alleged by

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Speaker 9: And I think what Robin's saying there is even though

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Speaker 9: So what we need to do is a full audit

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Speaker 1: I think if some of those services aren't working in

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Speaker 2: Is inviting to the areas that it is working.

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Speaker 8: It's one thing to put the money into programs, but

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Speaker 8: I'm being general, I know that, but a lot of

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Speaker 8: But you just can't call for a blanket audit of

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Speaker 2: So I reckon it could be a bit of a

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Speaker 8: How are you going to do a national audit, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Think it's more into the services that are meant to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but are you talking comm worth money or anti

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Speaker 8: Okay, well, then you've got most common Wealth grants. As

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Speaker 8: I understand from Salina's in a ministry in cabinet is

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Speaker 4: A lot of the time they're tired, and you have

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Speaker 8: Maybe the processes on the ground and in within the

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Speaker 8: bureaucracy aren't as good as what they could be. Now,

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Speaker 8: I'm a firm believer because I was taught this way

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Speaker 8: if you've got a perfect ordit coming out, whatever it

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Speaker 4: You haven't looked properly or carefully enough.

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Speaker 8: So I don't have an issue with trying to work

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Speaker 8: a hell of a lot of money that's been wasted

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Speaker 8: only the two large land councils. So I don't have

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Speaker 8: an issue with the audit. But make sure you set

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Speaker 8: you're trying to get, and that is where's the money

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Speaker 8: being spent and is it being spent well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Selena, what did you make of just enterprises calls

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Speaker 5: Week, Yeah, Katie, I was listening to sort of what

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Speaker 5: we had a Royal Commission into the Care and Protection

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Speaker 5: Royal Commission costs fifty million dollars. Peter Dutton was part

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Speaker 5: of the Ministry federally then there was no money put

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Speaker 5: and the recommendations. Our Northern Territory Labor Government received that

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Speaker 5: Royal Commission when we came to power in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 5: Katie is two hundred and fifty million dollars implementing the

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Speaker 5: recommendations of that Royal Commission. So when we add that

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Speaker 5: course the continuing figures from the NT government. That goes

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Speaker 5: goes into identifying areas where there are gaps. So three

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Speaker 5: to be told what to do. I think is a

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Speaker 5: much better use of territory money, federal money to make

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Speaker 5: sure that it's not just an Aboriginal kids issue. It

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Speaker 5: what Senator Price is pushing. We talk about not dividing

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Speaker 5: the country and saying that sexual abuse of children, Aboriginal

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Speaker 5: children is the only issue. We want to make sure

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Speaker 5: all our kids black white, brown color between how can.

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Speaker 10: Be safe to the attention of child protection in the

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Speaker 5: And rob and I would love to see any of

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Speaker 5: the support services and the funding attached to improving services

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Speaker 5: go to all of our territory kids just as much

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Speaker 1: So you reckon, do you reckon that that money into

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Speaker 1: a royal commission? You think it would be a waste

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Speaker 4: Well, if you'd be a waste of money too, I

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Speaker 5: And Katie Will, we do have set up is that

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Speaker 5: accountability and no Steve mentioned it, but we do have

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Speaker 5: the accountability through the new mechanisms with our Northern Territory

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Speaker 5: Executive Council and Abitual Affairs. What we've done is we

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Speaker 5: have mirrored the national structure on joint council and closed

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Speaker 5: we do have is the federal government sitting at that table,

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Speaker 5: our Northern Territory government has accountability.

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Speaker 7: For those dollars, federal or territory.

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Speaker 1: And just go back to child sexual abuse and those

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Speaker 1: you saying that it would be a waste of money,

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Speaker 1: and you'd like you don't think that it would be beneficial.

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Speaker 5: Not saying a waste of money. What I'm saying, Katie,

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Speaker 5: we know that there are issues. What I would like

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Speaker 5: to see is if there was money for a royal commission,

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Speaker 5: that that money would be better spent hitting the services,

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Speaker 5: making sure our non government organizations, particularly our abitual controlled

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Speaker 5: we fill those gaps.

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Speaker 3: Cadie and the Barklay.

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Speaker 9: Over the last many many years, there's been issues around

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Speaker 9: that there needs to be better coordination collaboration between all

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Speaker 9: and if you go back to twenty eighteen, there was

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Speaker 9: old that led to the Barkley Regional Deal. Part of

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Speaker 9: make sure it's going to where it's needed most, to

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Speaker 3: Four and a half years later.

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Speaker 2: We are going to have to take a very short

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Speaker 1: Phones are already running hot for the camp quality radio

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Speaker 1: auction and before we get into some of the other

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Speaker 1: very serious issues of the day, keys.

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Speaker 2: Here just very quickly. You're actually going to be donating

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Speaker 8: That's right, that's right, Katie Family farm tour have for

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Speaker 4: How many children to do?

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Speaker 8: Max my six kids, So we don't want too many

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Speaker 4: We do want a lot of babies.

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Speaker 8: We've got a couple of baby sheep of sheep, and

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Speaker 8: we've got we've got baby dots.

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Speaker 2: Do the children get to feed the baby goats and sheep.

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Speaker 8: Like the friend's past shirt. And we've got very friendly

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Speaker 8: donkeys that can be hand fed with carrots. We've got

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Speaker 8: friendly cows. Got about eight ten freeloading lazy cows at

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Speaker 8: the momentous rides quad bikes. I've got to my brother

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Speaker 8: in law's got a nice trailer. We can go for ride.

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Speaker 8: It's very dry and.

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Speaker 4: Dusty, so I came in the morning and then they can.

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Speaker 8: They can. We've got extra chaff bags and they can

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Speaker 2: There you go, so you give them a job while

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Speaker 8: So love that parents.

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Speaker 4: And then barbecue lunch.

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Speaker 2: Barbecue lunch at the end.

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Speaker 4: For the lunch and it's not one of the animals

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Speaker 2: Goodness me, you're really selling it theirs. Well.

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Speaker 1: People will be able to get in contact with us

444
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Speaker 1: and bid on that after ten o'clock this morning. But look,

445
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Speaker 1: I do want to get into those serious issues once

446
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Speaker 1: again of the week because we know that the government

447
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Speaker 1: has promised to introduce new alcohol laws that would give

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Speaker 1: greater police powers to deal with public drinkers and put

449
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Speaker 1: people on the band Drinkers Register. So the Chief Minister

450
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Speaker 1: table this three year review of the Liquor Act in

451
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Speaker 1: Parliament and said that she intended to introduce legislation in

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Speaker 1: the November sittings. Now, one of the things that I

453
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Speaker 1: thought was a bit rich really from the Northern Territory

454
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Speaker 1: government is that the opposition had also tabled this, like

455
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Speaker 1: they had also put forward legislation this week to give

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Speaker 1: police greater powers. Now, when you read through the review

457
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Speaker 1: that was table what we can see is that there

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Speaker 1: is a proposal that an amendment be made to provide

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Speaker 1: police with the power to identify the person that they're

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Speaker 1: searching or seizing alcohol from in regards to contravention of

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Speaker 1: Section one hundred and seventy one.

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Speaker 2: So public drinking.

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Speaker 1: Now, we spoke a lot about this through our weeks,

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Speaker 1: so the listeners would very much be aware of what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about here. But there is no doubt the

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Speaker 1: way that we're doing things currently when it comes to

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Speaker 1: alcohol up in the top end, we're not getting it right.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you've got groups of people that are

469
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Speaker 1: drinking publicly. We have got some very serious issues that

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Speaker 1: have occurred on our streets publicly. I'm talking domestic violence,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking sexual assault. You know, you're talking assaults. There

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Speaker 1: is some terrible stuff happening on the streets in the

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Speaker 1: top end. Something's got to be.

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Speaker 9: Done exactly, and I think you know, when you look

475
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Speaker 9: at the legislation that we put forward CODI, it addresses

476
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Speaker 9: all of those commendations in the liquor review. But importantly

477
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Speaker 9: that liquor review is all we got was a summary report.

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Speaker 3: So we're still waiting to see the full report.

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Speaker 9: I still don't know why there was only a summary

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Speaker 9: table by the Chief Minister. But getting back to drinking

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Speaker 9: in public places. Look, the comparison I made in Parliament

482
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Speaker 9: was that if you were drinking consuming alcohol in a

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Speaker 9: restricted area, you'd be facing twelve months imprisonment. Police would

484
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Speaker 9: have the power to question you, take your name, do

485
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Speaker 9: a whole range of checks to see whether you might

486
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Speaker 9: be the subject of a domestic violence order, a bail order,

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Speaker 9: all of those issues. But if you're drinking, say at

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Speaker 9: Fanny Bay here in Darwin, Catherine TenneT, Creeker, Ella Springs,

489
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Speaker 9: police don't have the power to ask that person their name.

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Speaker 9: So potentially you could have two people sitting there drinking

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Speaker 9: in breach of a domestic violence order. Now, giving the

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Speaker 9: police the ability to do those important checks could actually

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Speaker 9: prevent further domestic violence from happening in the future or

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Speaker 9: later that day. What surprised me was that the Minister

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Speaker 9: for the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence didn't agree

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Speaker 9: with what we were saying. Now, this is absolutely outrageous

497
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Speaker 9: that the minister who has responsibility to prevent domestic violence

498
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Speaker 9: didn't want to entertain the thought that police should have

499
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Speaker 9: powers to make inquiries at the point where people are drinking. Now,

500
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Speaker 9: now this is an opportunity to deal with those issues

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Speaker 9: there and then on the spot.

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Speaker 1: As a former police officer, I mean, what do you

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Speaker 1: make then of you know, people or police officers going

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Speaker 1: up and having to tip out alcohol. Now, presumably that

505
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Speaker 1: can actually put you in a dangerous situation in some

506
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Speaker 1: ways in a sense that you know, for some people,

507
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Speaker 1: you may not have a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: You've purchased some alcohol.

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Speaker 1: Then if it's being tipped out, does that potentially put

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Speaker 1: you in a dangerous situation.

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Speaker 9: One of the most potentially dangerous situations is where we

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Speaker 9: have patrols in somewhat secluded areas where there might be

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Speaker 9: a group of say fifteen or twenty people. Now two

514
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Speaker 9: police officers having the power to tip out grog. We

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Speaker 9: know that some of these people are disadvantaged. They've paid

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Speaker 9: a lot of money for grog, and when police start

517
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Speaker 9: tipping out the grog, they're in a potentially dangerous situation

518
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Speaker 9: because people react. What police need is the proper powers

519
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Speaker 9: to deal with these issues, and that includes questioning people

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Speaker 9: there to make the proper inquiries.

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Speaker 3: Why the laws different.

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Speaker 9: If somebody was living in a town camp here in Darwin,

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Speaker 9: they would be arrested, charged and phase twelve months imprisonment

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Speaker 9: for consuming alcohol. But if they come to a public

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Speaker 9: place like sa Fanny Bay, police don't even have the

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Speaker 9: power to ask in their name. So what the government

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Speaker 9: is doing is actually the way the laws are designed.

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Speaker 9: At the moment, people out Bush could potentially be facing jail.

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Speaker 9: You come to town, you don't even have to give

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Speaker 9: your name, So this is actually condoning public drinking. This

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Speaker 9: is why people are coming to town. The laws need

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Speaker 9: to be strengthened, firstly to give police the powers and

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Speaker 9: to act as a deterrent people drinking.

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Speaker 1: What you're saying is somebody could actually be coming from

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Speaker 1: a community they're not able to drink.

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Speaker 2: They shouldn't actually be drinking in town either. And nature

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 9: And police don't have the power to even check to

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Speaker 9: see whether a person has a under a band drink

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Speaker 9: or order a bail condition that they can't drink. But importantly,

541
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Speaker 9: that domestic advance is out of control right around the

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Speaker 9: Northern territory. Make a basic check. And I heard one

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Speaker 9: of the ministers say, oh, please deal with these issues

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Speaker 9: that I think the Member for Fanny basid why don't

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Speaker 9: you use section forty seven of the summary offenses that

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Speaker 9: let's give police the powers they need to do the

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Speaker 9: job properly.

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Speaker 5: Katie, there's no question that alcohol is the largest contributor

549
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Speaker 5: to harm across the Northern Territory. Absolutely acknowledge that, which

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Speaker 5: is why there has to be a multifaceted approach.

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Speaker 7: We can't just look at one area.

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Speaker 5: We have to look at all sections of legislation, we

553
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Speaker 5: have to look at all service delivery, we have to

554
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Speaker 5: look at all issues right across the territory, whether it's

555
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Speaker 5: in the bush, whether it's in our regional towns, whether

556
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Speaker 5: it's here in our urban centers. I mean, Steve's being

557
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Speaker 5: a little bit dish in genuous when we're talking about

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Speaker 5: Minister for Debertstick Violence, Family, sexual Violence Prevention, Kate Warden.

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Speaker 5: She's also the Police Minister, so she hears regularly and

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Speaker 5: meets regularly with our police, with our police Commissioner, with the.

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Speaker 7: Grassroots police officers.

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Speaker 5: On the grounds the police aousked for.

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Speaker 1: This, so the Police Association have said that they actually

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Speaker 1: want it.

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Speaker 2: Now I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: There is no doubt it's a multi faceted approach and

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Speaker 1: it is absolutely needed to be when it comes to alcohol.

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Speaker 1: But here You've got a situation where you can't even search,

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Speaker 1: like you can't even check someone's ID when you go

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Speaker 1: to tip out their alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Like, to me, that is.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable, and I think it's probably been a huge surprise

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Speaker 1: for a lot of territorianes that listen to the show

574
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Speaker 1: learning that throughout this one.

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Speaker 5: And Katie that liquor review, which is why we do

576
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Speaker 5: reviews of legislation to see what is up to date

577
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Speaker 5: and what can be improved and what can be changed

578
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Speaker 5: to better the safety of community. When we're talking about

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Speaker 5: that review, fifty five recommendations were provided through that review,

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Speaker 5: so that's what we'll be looking at as government. It

581
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Speaker 5: was tabled in Parliament this week, so they'll be ong

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Speaker 5: work in that space. But when it comes to ensuring

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Speaker 5: that we have police resource, that's huge commitment from us

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Speaker 5: as government.

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Speaker 7: We continue to do that.

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Speaker 5: Hear the feedback from community, hear the feedback from our

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Speaker 5: frontline services. And alcohol is also a health issue, Katie,

588
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Speaker 5: So that's where that really big approach around service delivery,

589
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Speaker 5: around health services and trying to look at the prevention

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Speaker 5: of alcohol harm in our community in the frontline.

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Speaker 7: Of it, as opposed to what we're.

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Speaker 1: Doing right now though, is not working, and what is

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Speaker 1: happening on the streets is not okay. What we're seeing

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Speaker 1: on the streets of Darwin, I'm assuming in Tenant, I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming in Catherine, in Alice Springs, it's not okay. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have got people that are drinking themselves to dangerous,

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Speaker 1: dangerous situations, not only for themselves but also for others.

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Speaker 1: And if you're able to implement something, and you're able

599
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Speaker 1: to do one thing that could potentially help this week

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Speaker 1: to stop somebody from being a victim of domestic violence,

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Speaker 1: or to stop somebody from being assaulted on the street,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't we do that, Katie.

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Speaker 9: The crux of the issue is here that we had

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Speaker 9: the legislation before Parliament this week. It addressed all of

605
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Speaker 9: the issues in this summary of the Liquor Review. It

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Speaker 9: was there, ready to go and addressed all of the recommendations.

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Speaker 9: But the government still knocked at right.

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Speaker 10: So what we saw was politics that it's worse played

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Speaker 10: out in Parliament today. A good piece of legislation makes

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Speaker 10: perfect sense. Steve's described it well. Selena doesn't really have

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Speaker 10: a response because it does make sense to tighten it

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Speaker 10: up to give the police more powers in these situations.

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Speaker 10: But yet because it was bought forward by the COLP,

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Speaker 10: the government doesn't even think about it. They just say no.

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Speaker 10: And it used to waste everyone's time, and it used

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Speaker 10: to exist previously.

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Speaker 3: Police.

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Speaker 8: I forget how many years ago police could stop a

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Speaker 8: couple of people, you know, drinking a public place, doesn't

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Speaker 8: matter what race cred they were, and ask their name,

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Speaker 8: and they can quickly run a check like they do

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Speaker 8: when they pull you over on the road. They run

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Speaker 8: a check to make sure your car's license and your license,

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Speaker 8: and it does it's a preventative tool that the police

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Speaker 8: would be get.

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask two other parts of the

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Speaker 1: summary legislation that was tabled. There are a couple of

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Speaker 1: parts in there that I thought were quite interesting. One

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Speaker 1: of those was a change that I noted that basically

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Speaker 1: suggested that to address public drinking and the associated anti

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Speaker 1: social behavior, that the liquoric be amended to empower other

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Speaker 1: appointed officers such as transit officers, public cars and safety officers,

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Speaker 1: park rangers, council rangers.

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Speaker 2: Katie.

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Speaker 8: That's one dangerous it's a disincentive for people looking to

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Speaker 8: go into those employment channels, those kind of things should

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Speaker 8: be given to the police. Transit officers on buses maybe

638
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Speaker 8: might be a bit different, but they are to look

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Speaker 8: after the safety of buses and people on buses. So

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Speaker 8: you reckon they put them in a dangerous situation. Why

641
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Speaker 8: don't put them in a dangerous situation. They are not

642
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Speaker 8: trained to be a law enforcement kind of people, and

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Speaker 8: it will be a disincentive. Like if someone says, oh M,

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Speaker 8: I want to become a park ranger and a good,

645
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Speaker 8: good job, etcetera career opportunity, but you've also got to

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Speaker 8: apprehend people who get pissed.

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Speaker 4: In the parks.

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Speaker 3: No way.

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Speaker 8: So I think that's a bad recommendation and the government

650
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Speaker 8: should not and anything.

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Speaker 10: Noting that our police auxiliaries that stand outside of bottle

652
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Speaker 10: shops in Alice Springs, in Tenant Creek and Catherine all

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Speaker 10: carry guns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so they're obviously it is obvious that then

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Speaker 1: you are thinking that they could be in a dangerous situation, right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why they did that, but even.

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Speaker 9: If you look at the inconsistency in the legislation, is

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Speaker 9: a police auxiliary standing outside a bottle shop has the

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Speaker 9: power to ask a whole range of questions, name and

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Speaker 9: address where are you going to be drinking the alcohol?

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Speaker 9: But a police officer going out to a public place

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Speaker 9: in Fanny Bay can't even as well as I do

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Speaker 9: want to.

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Speaker 2: Just ask as well.

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Speaker 1: One of the other aspects of this that that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't look as though the government's going to implement, but

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Speaker 1: I actually think this is something worth looking at. So

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Speaker 1: during COVID nineteen, during the Health Emergency, the Director introduced

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Speaker 1: special requirements for the sale of takeaway alcohol, including the

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Speaker 1: requirement for a person to prove that they have a

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Speaker 1: legitimate residence to consume takeaway alcohol. The same measure has

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Speaker 1: already been voluntarily a prior applied in places like parap

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Speaker 1: and Fanny Bay via the liquor record. So at this stage,

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Speaker 1: as I said, it doesn't look like it's recommended that

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Speaker 1: this measure be legislated.

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Speaker 8: But Katie that that will that will discriminate against people

677
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Speaker 8: at maraca and Corrobbrie because when that was in place

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Speaker 8: during COVID, they had to show their license they lived

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Speaker 8: at Maracaio.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, you can't buy takeaway and live with this for years.

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Speaker 4: Analysis have analysis, but it.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't make a difference.

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Speaker 4: It's a huge difference.

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Speaker 2: It does make it. What do you think what don't think.

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Speaker 8: Selena discriminate against people in the top end for living

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Speaker 8: in a regional area.

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Speaker 2: And what do you think they're.

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Speaker 4: Going to buy the takeaway?

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Speaker 1: Well, you've got people like remote communities in your electorate

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 5: What do you think we had that of Katie And

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Speaker 5: as you know Stephen Robins said, we've had that another

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Speaker 5: part of the territory for you know, a long time.

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Speaker 2: So make a difference, huge difference.

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Speaker 7: It does.

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Speaker 5: When we're talking about, you know, again reducing the harm

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Speaker 5: of alcohol and we're looking at all measures.

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Speaker 7: Again there's no quick fix.

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Speaker 5: If there was, then we would have solved alcohol is

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Speaker 5: shoes a long time ago. And every government you know

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Speaker 5: prior would have solved alcohol is shoes a long time ago. Again,

702
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Speaker 5: we need to treat alcohol is shoes as a health measure.

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Speaker 5: We also need to look at what the response is

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Speaker 5: to support individuals or groups of people who.

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Speaker 7: Struggle with alcohol.

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Speaker 5: We also need to ensure that community safety, which is

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Speaker 5: when we talk about police and the other measures in

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Speaker 5: the community and the resourcing police, which we've done as

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Speaker 5: Labor government. But this will continue to be an issue

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Speaker 5: in the Northern Territory and it continues to have a

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Speaker 5: response that is measured, but also an.

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Speaker 1: Impact that we are going to have to take a

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Speaker 1: very short break from. Everyone's fired up this morning, even

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Speaker 1: off air as well. There's so much going on, but

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Speaker 1: I do just want to talk about the facts. There's well,

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Labor Party, they're not going to be

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Speaker 1: holding their annual conference this year. Conference is that party's

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Speaker 1: constitution and it happens every year, bringing together delegates from

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Speaker 1: sub branches and trade unions to debate my otions that

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Speaker 1: go on to form.

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Speaker 2: Its party platform.

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Speaker 1: But the party president has told the a b C

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Speaker 1: that the next conference won't be held.

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Speaker 2: Until after the next election. Interesting times.

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Speaker 1: I've been told that it's been canceled because it's been

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Speaker 1: overtaken by the anti fraggers.

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Speaker 10: They're all farting with each other.

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Speaker 4: To air their dirty Lenen.

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Speaker 8: Katie, I'll give you a I can tell you the

730
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Speaker 8: Labor Party people not holding their conference means diddley squat

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Speaker 8: to anyone in the rule. If they don't, if they

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Speaker 8: don't want to happen, they don't really vote lab Hell.

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Speaker 8: Hell will freeze over before that happens. But no one,

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Speaker 8: no one gives two hoots. I mean if the Labor

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Speaker 8: Party people don't want to have a loving doubt.

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Speaker 2: Members the.

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Speaker 3: Membership. The membership want to have a voice.

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Speaker 9: That's they want to have a saying any party election

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Speaker 9: policy is.

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Speaker 2: Who will care is it's the members of the Labor Party.

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Speaker 1: And I actually think that that's what's forgotten sometimes is

742
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Speaker 1: that you know your party might not agree on different things,

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Speaker 1: but it is important whether you're a member of the

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Speaker 1: c LP or the Labor Party. You independents don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about meeting with your party members. Just you con.

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Speaker 2: I have a conference.

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Speaker 4: A lot to myself.

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Speaker 2: I have a con.

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Speaker 9: Conference, Katie, and everybody had an opportunity to contribute. But

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Speaker 9: it seems that Labor is the medership. They've got a voice,

751
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Speaker 9: but they're not allowed.

752
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Speaker 3: To use it wrong.

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Speaker 1: But it seems to me that Labour's been taken over

754
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Speaker 1: a little bit by the woke left and they're worried

755
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Speaker 1: attacking it, and you know, they need to remember their

756
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Speaker 1: working class roots. You've got to actually make sure that

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Speaker 1: you are meeting and you've got to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you're hearing the voices of people within the party. Katie,

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Speaker 1: I love that this is a topic and that people

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Speaker 1: are interested in Lady Labor Party mechanisms and process. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, but I absolutely agree with Kesier that the

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Speaker 1: average everyday territory probably does don't.

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Speaker 7: Care whether Labor is having a party conference.

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Speaker 2: What I would like to say about.

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Speaker 5: Our party membership, who do an amazing job as grassroots

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Speaker 5: members do have access to have that input into the

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Speaker 5: party through our regular branch meetings. Each division has their

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Speaker 5: own branch meetings. We have members of the Labor of

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Speaker 5: the Labor Party Caucus who are part of those branches.

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Speaker 7: We also have our.

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Speaker 5: Chief Minister and ministers who meet regularly with our party members.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to have a formal meeting in Parliament,

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Speaker 5: and access.

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Speaker 2: Is in the constitution for Labor post so you.

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Speaker 7: Can access your elected good Labor.

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Speaker 3: Members, which is good governance.

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Speaker 5: And I love that people are very interested in this,

778
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Speaker 5: but I also acknowledge that a lot of territories don't care.

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Speaker 7: They just want us to do it. We got party members.

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Speaker 1: Is it because you're scared of what the party is

781
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Speaker 1: going to tell you, what the ranking.

782
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Speaker 5: Accident or they just want us to get the job

783
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Speaker 5: and make sure that Labor is returned in August twenty

784
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Speaker 5: twenty four, and that we do our job as a

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Speaker 5: Labor government.

786
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Speaker 2: Katie.

787
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Speaker 8: What they could have asked at the conference and this

788
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 8: is what we want, asked Selena in the Seed of Blaine.

789
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Speaker 8: You've got a SEALP person, you'll have an ALP person,

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Speaker 8: and you've got Mark Turner who's now in Independence. So

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Speaker 8: it is the Labor Party going to give their preferences

792
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Speaker 8: to Mark Turner? Are they going to give them to

793
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Speaker 8: the CEPS.

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Speaker 3: Conferences?

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Speaker 7: I love it, keysy Well.

796
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sitting here with the current CLP member

797
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Speaker 5: with Steve.

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Speaker 7: We've got two former Rob and.

799
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Speaker 2: Saw. The Light.

800
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Speaker 10: Party.

801
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Speaker 7: Politics is something that territories don't care.

802
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Speaker 5: They just want you to get on and do their job,

803
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Speaker 5: which is shown with Kesy and Independent.

804
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Speaker 1: I remember that when you have a crack at this

805
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: moment the CLP, when they have their vote of no

806
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: confidence or whatever.

807
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Speaker 2: It was not that long ago.

808
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Speaker 1: I remember.

809
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Speaker 3: We actually held our conference.

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Speaker 9: We gave everybody an opportunity to have a say about motions. Now,

811
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Speaker 9: I don't know how many motions are going to be

812
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Speaker 9: shelved over at the Labor Party, but I'm sure that

813
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Speaker 9: the membership have put up motions they want them considered

814
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Speaker 9: that they pay a membership every year. They should be

815
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Speaker 9: having to say, so, what's going to happen to all

816
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 9: the emotions.

817
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 5: For the Labor Party and let us see the light

818
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: for the process. But I can assure territories if you

819
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Speaker 5: care about the Labor Party in our internal processes that

820
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 5: Labor No, I'm talking about the party processes, Robert, I'm

821
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 5: not talking about government. If you care about the party processes,

822
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: please join the Labor Party if you would like to say,

823
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 5: and we'd love more membership.

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Speaker 2: I do want to just run.

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Speaker 8: I just want to point out, for Selena, this will

826
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Speaker 8: make us even closer sisters. My mother actually did belong

827
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Speaker 8: to the Labor Party.

828
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Speaker 3: They can dream.

829
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Speaker 4: I would have kept that on a secret. We won't

830
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Speaker 4: hold it against it. Not very long day.

831
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Speaker 9: But it does get down to good governance. And this

832
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Speaker 9: reflects poorly on.

833
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Speaker 1: The Labor Well, let's talk governance, because unfortunately the Tenant

834
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Speaker 1: Creek Council, or the Berkley Regional councilor should say, through

835
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Speaker 1: this week, well, they found themselves in situation where the

836
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Speaker 1: Attorney Journal was stepping in to basically well to basically

837
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Speaker 1: suspend all those members of the Barkley Regional Council from

838
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Speaker 1: office and placed it under official management. Steve, what's the

839
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Speaker 1: reaction been in the Barclay.

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Speaker 9: There's been mixed reaction right across the board and I

841
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 9: think generally what I'm hearing is that the issues that

842
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 9: have been going on there for roughly about eighteen months now.

843
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 9: All of these issues started back in February twenty and

844
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Speaker 9: twenty two, so there's been a whole range of issues

845
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Speaker 9: raised over the last eighteen months. There has been issues

846
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 9: raised by constituents about service delivery, particularly in the Bush,

847
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Speaker 9: and this is what we're hearing is that right across

848
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Speaker 9: the board when it comes to things like the voice,

849
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 9: people feel that the Barklay has been forgotten when it

850
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 9: comes to service delivery. So there's been no shortage of

851
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 9: complaints around service delivery in the Bush. When it comes

852
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 9: to a whole range of other matters like complaints, internal

853
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 9: complaints around bullying, sexual harassment, mismanagement, there's been issues with

854
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 9: the rates. There's been a whole range of issues constantly

855
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Speaker 9: raised over eighteen months. I've spoken to the Minister a

856
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 9: number of times about this and I think at this

857
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Speaker 9: stage what I'm hearing is that people feel that the

858
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Speaker 9: Minister has made the appropriate decision.

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Speaker 3: In the circumstance.

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Speaker 4: By the sound of it, Katie, this is not unusual.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I mean it's regrettable, but in the parts

862
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 8: happened before in the past. Litchfield Council was suspended because

863
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Speaker 8: of the Parmesan. I think bell Ewan was suspended a

864
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 8: couple of times, you know, and it basically just well,

865
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Speaker 8: from what I see, it gives some breathing space. You know,

866
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 8: there's obviously some intense internal upheaval in the Farmley region

867
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Speaker 8: and you know, issues with the mayor and court cases

868
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 8: and all that sort of stuff, so it just gives

869
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Speaker 8: them breathing space. Just step aside, let the administrative people

870
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Speaker 8: come in, probably do an audit, go through everything like

871
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Speaker 8: service delivery in particular, and those meetings that you have

872
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 8: in the communities to do with shy business, and then

873
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 8: work it out how to go forward, whether it's whether

874
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 8: they all come back in or that they have to

875
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Speaker 8: go to an election, which what I think that happened

876
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 8: at Lichfield had to re elect and parmis I see it.

877
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Speaker 9: I see it as an opportunity to chart a better

878
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 9: way forward. And I think what I want to see

879
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 9: out of this is a real plan to come out

880
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 9: how we're going to improve services in the Bush. And

881
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Speaker 9: so it does fit in with what I've been saying

882
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Speaker 9: for a long time. We need to get back to

883
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Speaker 9: basics in communities, improve governance, improve leadership. All of those

884
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Speaker 9: things need to happen right across the board.

885
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Speaker 1: I mean, does it make a mockery of the CLP's

886
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Speaker 1: calls for us to go back to those local councils.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely everywhere.

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Speaker 9: Actually it actually supports that because what we're seeing, and

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Speaker 9: as I said, the strong message coming out of the

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Speaker 9: referendum was that people do want to voice they feel

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Speaker 9: that they've been forgotten in many remote areas in the Barclay.

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Speaker 9: I take that message as a call for help, and

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Speaker 9: that's the way I look at it right across the board,

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Speaker 9: and I want to strengthen.

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Speaker 3: I want to see people empowered.

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Speaker 9: In communities, strength and government, strength and leadership because all

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Speaker 9: of that was taken away on the first of July

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Speaker 9: two thousand and eight. We need to return services such

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Speaker 9: as road, housing, housing, maintenance and repairs and have people

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Speaker 9: more engaged so that we have better outcomes in communities,

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Speaker 9: and particularly given the current local decision making policy which

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Speaker 9: actually skirts around local government. And this is what the

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Speaker 9: Labor Party hasn't been telling people is that their local

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Speaker 9: decision making policy doesn't include local government. We need to

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Speaker 9: strengthen local government so that decisions can be made on

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Speaker 9: the ground in communities.

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Speaker 7: O Katie.

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Speaker 5: It's never nice to see a council go into administration,

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Speaker 5: but for very good reasons, of course, as you know,

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Speaker 5: supporting outlined already by my parliamentary colleagues.

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Speaker 7: I was intended Creek two weeks ago. I did meet

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Speaker 7: with Steve.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's probably the only person in the COLP

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Speaker 5: who's actually talking about caring about the Bush. So very

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Speaker 5: happy to talk to Steve and follow his leadership around

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Speaker 5: listening to his electorate and listening to the Bush vote.

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Speaker 5: But also in terms of local decision making, which was

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Speaker 5: just brought up. We've just gone through a very lengthy

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Speaker 5: process through the Grid Island Archipelago Local Decision Making Agreement.

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Speaker 5: It's a ten year agreement, Katie, and it is around

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Speaker 5: five different pillars, and one of those pillars is local government,

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Speaker 5: which has just been many years in the making. But

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Speaker 5: looking at a Groode Island Regional Council, so similar to

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Speaker 5: Tee Island Regional Council covering Bathist and Melville, Groode Island

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Speaker 5: and miking An Island in the Gulf of Carpentia and

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Speaker 5: looking at a regional council based there. And that's through

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Speaker 5: the Local Decision Making Agreement, purely because of the Local

928
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Speaker 5: Decision Making Agreement which is our Labor Party policy. So

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Speaker 5: it does not skirt around as Steve has said, it

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Speaker 5: absolutely addresses that if a community or a region wants

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Speaker 5: to explore that that's absolutely open for what the community wants.

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Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to take a very

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Speaker 1: quick break, Geese. We're running out of time fast in

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Speaker 1: here this morning. Well, what a busy hour it's been.

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Speaker 1: If you've just joined us, you've missed an absolute cracker

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Speaker 1: in the studio this morning. We've had Selena Rubaikezi, a Puric,

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Speaker 1: Robin Landley and Steve Edgington the aighte mate. Now it

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Speaker 1: is in camp Quality Radio Auction day, So I really

939
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Speaker 1: appreciate the fact.

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Speaker 2: That you've all been here this morning.

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Speaker 1: It's been a massive morning and for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the day here on Mix one oh for nine, well,

943
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Speaker 1: we are going to be going live with the with

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Speaker 1: you know with the radio auction thousands of dollars have

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Speaker 1: been raised to date over the years. I reckon we've

946
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Speaker 1: been doing this for well for over a decade. So

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Speaker 1: if anybody out there listening is keen to find that

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Speaker 1: full list of auction items, you can jump on the

949
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Speaker 1: Mix one O four nine website. But we've got some

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Speaker 1: wonderful stuff up for grabs today. There is so much

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Speaker 1: going on. Kiezy has got her half day farm Njerius No, sorry,

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Speaker 1: not a half day.

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Speaker 2: Everyone came down. You're not going out all day.

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Speaker 4: They want to stay all day. They can do the

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Speaker 4: morning for.

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Speaker 2: Nothing in jobs.

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Speaker 3: I'll be there for lunch.

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Speaker 2: Oh goodness, mabe well.

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Speaker 1: Steve Edgington, the member for Barkley, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for your time today.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, Katie, and good morning to all the listeners,

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Speaker 9: and thanks to all the crew today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Robin Landley, the member for our mahlu and

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time this morning. Gezi

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Speaker 2: Puic the Independent k for your time.

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Speaker 1: I'll get you to stay for a few minutes if

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Speaker 1: we can, just to go through that auction item. And

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Speaker 1: Selena Rubo from Catherine, thank you so much for your

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Speaker 1: time this morning.

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Speaker 7: I'm thank forward to getting home this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Well, Big congrats on having your second baby as well.

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Speaker 5: He's eleven weeks old today, baby Phoenix, and he's probably

973
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Speaker 5: sleeping in the office right now.

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Speaker 7: To Big Sister and to Dad this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you all so very much for your time

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Speaker 1: this morning, and we'll have you back on the.

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Speaker 2: Show very soon, no doubt, and stick around.

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Speaker 1: There's still plenty coming your way this morning, right here

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Speaker 1: on Mix one oh four nine