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Speaker 1: Jam mission with Jonesy and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Prince Harry speaking openly about the royal family. Does this

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Speaker 2: pass the pub test?

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 4: He's talked about his relationship with Prince Charles and the

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Speaker 4: kind of parenting he's had. He's spoken about this on

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Speaker 4: the Dak's Shepherd podcast. Accept Shepherd is an American actor.

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Speaker 4: He's married to Kristin can't remember her last name. No,

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Speaker 4: Kristin who often is on The Ellen Show. She's an actress.

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Speaker 4: She was the voice of the younger sister in Frozen.

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Speaker 2: The movie.

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Speaker 4: They're a drawing. They're a very interesting Hollywood couple, and

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Speaker 4: they were speaking. He was speaking here about mental health.

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Speaker 4: Once again. Harry has been very open about the pitfalls

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Speaker 4: of his upbringing and why he wanted to escape the upbringing.

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Speaker 4: This is some of the stuff he said.

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Speaker 3: I've experienced some form of penal suffering because of the

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Speaker 3: penal suffering that perhaps my father or my parents had suffered.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make sure that I break that cycle

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Speaker 3: so I don't pass it on.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to hear because he said he's Royal life

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Speaker 4: is a mixture between the Truman Show and being in

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Speaker 4: a zoo, and that Prince charles Is upbringing basically was

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Speaker 4: stuffed because of Prince Philip and the Queen. So all

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Speaker 4: this is hard stuff for lovers of the Royal family

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Speaker 4: to hear. I have a feeling on this that I

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Speaker 4: feel for him. But there are two streams to this family.

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Speaker 4: One is that it's an actual family, and one is

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Speaker 4: that it also has a public service as a public establishment.

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Speaker 4: Really it is an institution, So this stuff should be

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Speaker 4: dealt with. Maybe privately, he can say to his father,

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Speaker 4: he is what I'm struggling with. Here's the therapy I'm having,

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Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But to throw all the Royal family

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Speaker 4: under the bus just seems unfortunate to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, he just wants to speak his truth. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm quoting Oprah, but that how

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Speaker 2: often will he do it? Well, he's going to keep

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Speaker 2: doing as sure as Coca Cola's got to keep marketing.

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Speaker 2: Harry's going to have to keep doing it because there's

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Speaker 2: going to be people that sit there and said, oh,

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Speaker 2: you let the Royal family had heaps of money, you

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Speaker 2: had a great life. Why did you leave it? Because

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Speaker 2: his mother was more or less killed by the press

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Speaker 2: or conspiracy, theory if you believe that, but imagine being

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Speaker 2: in the Royal family, you wanted to escape that gilded cage.

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Speaker 2: He's doing this to become his own man.

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Speaker 4: There are going to get it, of course, but they're

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Speaker 4: required ways to escape without making your brother and your

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Speaker 4: father and your grandmother look look less.

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Speaker 2: And then I don't get that from that. I don't

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Speaker 2: get that he's making them look less. He's just saying

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Speaker 2: he's leaving the institution.

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Speaker 4: He has said that they are like hostages.

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Speaker 2: He said that they are they are hostages.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's his.

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Speaker 3: Call on it.

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Speaker 4: And because of the Royal family and the constraints they have,

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Speaker 4: they can't answer back, which is one of the things

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Speaker 4: he knows. All right, So what do you think Prince

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Speaker 4: Harry speaking openly about the Royal family. Does it pass

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Speaker 4: the pub test?

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Speaker 5: He does not.

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Speaker 1: He's pretty much doing to the Royal family work for

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Speaker 1: pressed to his mother. In my opinion, they don't have

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Speaker 1: the road reply.

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Speaker 5: Good on him, you know, I think that's great what

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Speaker 5: he's doing to speak up about how he feels, because

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Speaker 5: if he spoke to his family, it's not the same.

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Speaker 5: He wouldn't say, wouldn't listen to It's not going to

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Speaker 5: be boys, and so they won't listen to Harry. I

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Speaker 5: think it's good that he's putting it out there and

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Speaker 5: lets the public hear what's going on really in behind

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Speaker 5: the scenes that we don't see.

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Speaker 1: I think he needs to call his farms. His grandmother

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Speaker 1: has just lost her husband. The thing is, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to lose her anytime soon, because you know what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. Charles was going to step in, but

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Speaker 1: Harry needs to stop, keep a private, stop worrying about

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Speaker 1: not making enough money, and have respect for Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: There you go, different old ladies ringing up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well this is you know, as you said earlier,

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Speaker 4: a certain generation of women grew up knowing those boys,

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Speaker 4: knowing their mum sad that the boys no longer talk

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Speaker 4: to each other. Just wanting them to love each other.

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Speaker 2: That's all we want.

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