Speaker 1: Good a Peter Hally here, welcome to You Ain't Seen
Speaker 1: Nothing Yet? The Movie podcast, where I chat to a
Speaker 1: movie lover about a classic or beloved movie they haven't
Speaker 1: quite got around to watching until now. And today's guests
Speaker 1: Adam Christie, and I want to point out before we
Speaker 1: get to Adam and today's movie that this episode of
Speaker 1: You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet was recorded during lockdown, during
Speaker 1: this little pandemic that you might have heard about. So
Speaker 1: the audio quality is not quite up to this standard
Speaker 1: that we get when we record at Castaway Studios. This
Speaker 1: is where I'm recording the intro at this is this
Speaker 1: is what it sounds like. This is this is clean,
Speaker 1: it's crisp, it's classy. The audio that we did online
Speaker 1: it's good. We can still hear each other, you know,
Speaker 1: but you'll notice the difference. I just wanted to point
Speaker 1: that out. But other than that, I think you'll enjoy
Speaker 1: this chat. Frankly, my hear I know, give a damn well,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty hairy and there it's Charlie's point, Charlie,
Speaker 1: don't sort.
Speaker 2: Charlie, you can't be serious.
Speaker 1: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
Speaker 2: Right now, don't seen nothing.
Speaker 1: Last year, before the world went crazy, I had the
Speaker 1: honor and the opportunity to go to Montreal and perform
Speaker 1: at the just the last festival. It was such a
Speaker 1: great time. It feels like five years ago. I got
Speaker 1: to perform at one of the galas, which was mc
Speaker 1: by the iconic and wonderful and hilarious wonder Sikes, and
Speaker 1: I got to hang out in Montreal, a city I'd
Speaker 1: never been to. In fact, it was the first North
Speaker 1: American gig I'd ever done. And I know sometimes when
Speaker 1: I refer to Canada as North America, people say that's
Speaker 1: not America, but it's technically it's part of North America. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I had never been to Canada before, so it was
Speaker 1: an honor to be there. But what was really great
Speaker 1: was just hanging out with some comedians that I knew.
Speaker 1: Some Aussies were over there. Reeke Nicholson was over there,
Speaker 1: Becky Lucas was over there, Felicity Award. We had a
Speaker 1: great time. Guy Montgomery from across the Ditch in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun. But meeting new comics,
Speaker 1: comics that I knew and comics that I wasn't aware of,
Speaker 1: and this gentleman we became fast friends. His name is
Speaker 1: Adam Christie. He's a fantastic Canadian comedian. He was performing
Speaker 1: on the very first night I did my first gig
Speaker 1: in Montreal, which wasn't the big Gale. You do like
Speaker 1: a rehearsal for that, and he was there. Anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say too much because we kind of
Speaker 1: covered this when we start chatting, so I will allow
Speaker 1: our blossoming relationship to be for both of us to
Speaker 1: share that with you. So I hope you enjoy this
Speaker 1: episode with Adam Christie, my best making Canada.
Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Adam Christie. I'm Pete Hallier's best
Speaker 2: Canadian friend. My favorite movies are Star Wars, The Course
Speaker 2: Will Be with You, Fairest Bueller's Day Off, and mac Groover. Amen.
Speaker 2: But until yesterday I had never seen Wall Street.
Speaker 1: Fy let me please among the stars.
Speaker 2: Let me see you at the Strings.
Speaker 1: Like Adjvurter and Mark Oliver, Stone returns from the Horrors
Speaker 1: of Vietnam after making nineteen eighty six. Is plait sooons
Speaker 1: at the Horrors of Wall Street, where Charlie sheen So
Speaker 1: is up for grabs. It won't be the last time
Speaker 1: as Michael Douglas's Gordon Gecko Scolds and mold Machines Buddy Fox,
Speaker 1: who is sick of being on the outside and desperately
Speaker 1: wants to be on the inside. And that's exactly where
Speaker 1: he ends up a little too far inside for the Feds.
Speaker 1: Liking it's nineteen eighty seven, greed is good and smoking
Speaker 1: indoors is even better. And a big hello and welcome
Speaker 1: to you said, and I was actually gonna use it
Speaker 1: in my introduction my bestest Canadian friend Adam CHRISTI, how
Speaker 1: the hell are you?
Speaker 2: I want to knock the borders out of it. I
Speaker 2: want to say, we're just best friends.
Speaker 1: This is not a time for borders. Yes, there's too
Speaker 1: much going on with border restrictions at the moment. Let's
Speaker 1: just knock them out, b ffs.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing, and this is kind of related
Speaker 2: to movies. You know when you see a movie and
Speaker 2: you see it just once and you're like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: my favorite movie. Like I saw the movie, what's that
Speaker 2: movie Cabin in the Woods? Like I went and called
Speaker 2: to Cabin in the Woods and you see and you're like,
Speaker 2: that's like the best movie of all time. I did
Speaker 2: that was like, I just all about Eve too, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is the greatest film I feel
Speaker 2: like meeting you. For we met, I think we probably
Speaker 2: have spent a total of an hour and a half
Speaker 2: together in our lives. But afterwards I was like, this
Speaker 2: is my best friend. This is the person I want
Speaker 2: to spend the rest of my life with. I talk
Speaker 2: about you all the time. I talked to you with
Speaker 2: our mutual friend Zoe, I talked to you with my partner.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is I don't know if we've ever
Speaker 2: spoken to each other, not drunk or hungover.
Speaker 1: This and this is true, and we are speaking together
Speaker 1: that Ammy Melbourne in a pretty heavy louckdown And it's
Speaker 1: ten o'clock at not I have a fine red wine
Speaker 1: by ten minute spot Trector, a lovely Victorian winery, and
Speaker 1: you are in Toronto, the lovely glass of Hjo I believe.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. It's eight in the morning and I just
Speaker 2: found out. You know, Pete, A good way to wake
Speaker 2: up in the morning is to work out and then
Speaker 2: not shower and then go to sleep. And as soon
Speaker 2: as you wake up you're just itchy and so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: You have to get in the shower because you feel disgusting.
Speaker 2: I recommend it.
Speaker 1: So we met in the only last year in Montreal,
Speaker 1: the beautiful city of Montreal. Is my first time I'd
Speaker 1: ever been there for just for the laughs, first time
Speaker 1: in Canada, to be honest, and we Yeah, you were
Speaker 1: actually at my very first you know Americans slash sorry
Speaker 1: North American gig. Like I've never done a gig in
Speaker 1: the in the US, and it was my first Canadian gig.
Speaker 1: It was it was the kind of the show that
Speaker 1: you do to warm up for the big gala, and
Speaker 1: we're both doing the galas and and you were on
Speaker 1: first for my my recollection. I think everyone just basically
Speaker 1: gets you just get it, you know, put on for
Speaker 1: the three or five all the six or seven minutes
Speaker 1: that you have to do. And I remember I remember
Speaker 1: looking at you know, watching your set, going jeez, is good.
Speaker 1: And I was hoping. I knew everyone was going to
Speaker 1: be good because everyone's doing Garla's but I thought, jeez,
Speaker 1: he's really good, like he's really sleep and and I
Speaker 1: went a little bit later and yeah, I did. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was in front of like sixty people, but like,
Speaker 1: what are you.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: It was it was. It was a good it was
Speaker 1: a good set, but like you know, the next and
Speaker 1: then it was weird because they have somebody who gives
Speaker 1: you notes about the set, and I changed a few
Speaker 1: things because I submitted the script and which is going
Speaker 1: to be recorded for TV the next night, and I
Speaker 1: changed a few things, and because the next night I
Speaker 1: literally performed in that huge you know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like three and a half or four and a half
Speaker 1: thousand people, you know, and one of the signles it
Speaker 1: was them seeing that that that that gala, and I
Speaker 1: was performing the night before in front of sixty so
Speaker 1: I couldn't attend. I was at the same venue, so
Speaker 1: I kind of used the audience a bit more in
Speaker 1: in that night. And then remember the woman who was
Speaker 1: taking the notes said to me, you're not going to well,
Speaker 1: you're not going to like interact with the audience tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: you mean? And then I was like, I don't think
Speaker 1: so was I wasn't planning on it. What do you think?
Speaker 1: And she said, I just no, like, just don't because
Speaker 1: we don't want a conversation to break out in the
Speaker 1: audience during your set. I think that is going to happen,
Speaker 1: But I take your point. And Okay, so you were
Speaker 1: at my first gig. It was so lovely to you know,
Speaker 1: my first gig, to be there backstage and meet a
Speaker 1: friendly face, and then to see that you're a stunning comic.
Speaker 1: And then we hung out at the Netflix. There's a
Speaker 1: Netflix party We've got to hang out at and and
Speaker 1: bump into each other a few times. And now we're
Speaker 1: basically working out a way to get out of our
Speaker 1: current relationships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a drop of a hat beat. You
Speaker 2: tell me to leave my partner, I'll dumper and we'll
Speaker 2: move in together and we'll start a new life I believe,
Speaker 2: wife and a beautiful family.
Speaker 1: Right, it's more complicated for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what. That might take a few days
Speaker 2: to get out of. But me, me and a visa, dude,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be crazy. And also, I will say because
Speaker 2: I went to Australia for the first time last year
Speaker 2: and I was I was in Sydney and let me
Speaker 2: tell you, I die. I don't know who you are, Pete,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're about. I just know you're
Speaker 2: a friendly guy and you're my best friend. But I
Speaker 2: get to Australia, I'm Basically, I'm like walking out the
Speaker 2: street and everyone I meet is like Pete Ellier says, hey,
Speaker 2: like people are like coming out of the like garbage
Speaker 2: cans and be like peteza's your funny and like out
Speaker 2: of a sewer a rat. It's like, hey Pete, hey,
Speaker 2: it loo was crazy. Everyone I met You've been dropping
Speaker 2: my name all over Australia and I, you know, I
Speaker 2: think I might be a dignitary now, well I was.
Speaker 1: I was devastated because I heard you coming down. I
Speaker 1: was invought at to perform at just for laughs at
Speaker 1: the Sydney oppera House, and I'll I was sad enough.
Speaker 1: Actually before I knew you were coming down that I
Speaker 1: couldn't make it. We were finishing up shooting our series
Speaker 1: How to Stay Married. That weekend it was actually the
Speaker 1: Rap party, and I thought I'd kind of need to
Speaker 1: be at the rap party. You know, I'm reasonably involved
Speaker 1: in this series, and and and then when I heard
Speaker 1: you were going to be there, I kind of thought
Speaker 1: I can go to Maybe if I go to the
Speaker 1: rap party for like, you know, charter a flight. But
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. But I heard you smashed it.
Speaker 2: Well, we're listen, we're here. Oh yeah, I had a
Speaker 2: real personalized bit for the Australian audience. You know, when
Speaker 2: something happens to you in the city and you can
Speaker 2: tell your personalized bit. Oh they love that, they love that,
Speaker 2: loved it.
Speaker 1: I was I was almost going to do a personalized
Speaker 1: bit in Montreal. I was going to say that that Montreal,
Speaker 1: that I liked Montreal, that I found that the most
Speaker 1: trustworthy of Canadian cities, because I'd gone to Toronto on
Speaker 1: the way because I love I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: paleontology and basketball, and it was it was only when
Speaker 1: I got there that I realized that the Toronto Raptors
Speaker 1: when named only the Toronto Reppors, not because the fossils
Speaker 1: that are in the ground in Toronto, but because the
Speaker 1: movie Jurassic Plaque was popular at the time of their inception.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we were named by a bunch of six year olds.
Speaker 2: I at the time, I think was six, So I
Speaker 2: was pretty excited. People make the joke of like, if
Speaker 2: we were named like a year after, we'd be called
Speaker 2: like the Toronto Titanics or something like.
Speaker 1: It wasless lists.
Speaker 2: Yep, Toronto. It was in the mix that in the
Speaker 2: mix I think that was a second. My personalized bit
Speaker 2: is when I came the first person I met in
Speaker 2: Australia picked me up. It was like a driver for
Speaker 2: the festival, and I was like, Oh, what's the big
Speaker 2: news in Australia, what's going on in Australia. And the
Speaker 2: woman was like, oh, I've in Malatt just died and
Speaker 2: I said, oh, I'm sorry to hear that, and didn't
Speaker 2: realize that he was a famous murderer.
Speaker 1: I want to speak of your top three great top three.
Speaker 1: Two of them I might in my old times mcgruba.
Speaker 1: Let's so we'll get to that in the sick. But
Speaker 1: Star Wars, I mean, that's weirdly enough. In this podcast
Speaker 1: is short history. We're recorded. By the stage of twenty episodes,
Speaker 1: nobody's mentioned Star Wars in their top three.
Speaker 2: And you know what, that's fucking bullshit because I thought, okay,
Speaker 2: because you for everyone listening, he tells you to list
Speaker 2: your three favorite movies, and then that's all you think
Speaker 2: about for one week, is what your three favorite movies are,
Speaker 2: because that's like the hardest question in the world. And
Speaker 2: I think I had, like I probably I had it
Speaker 2: down to about thirty movies. And finally when you said it,
Speaker 2: I just like wrote down the first three that it
Speaker 2: came to my mind. But I feel like if you,
Speaker 2: I feel like Star Wars is like the most popular
Speaker 2: movie franchise in the world, yep, and most people. It's
Speaker 2: like the fact that most people don't say the Star
Speaker 2: Wars is their favorite film is like they're lying to themselves.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, so nobody likes this movie. No all,
Speaker 2: this is no one's favorite movie that I guess is
Speaker 2: the most popular thing in the world, and everything associated
Speaker 2: with it is the most popular thing ever. And it's
Speaker 2: kind of like when when I hear comedians say this
Speaker 2: is the thing that's not mean it shouldn't. When comedians
Speaker 2: say their biggest influence and it's not the Simpsons, I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it's the Simpsons. Like the Simpsons is like our citizen Kane.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like all comedy like kind of derives
Speaker 2: from the like the Simpsons as far as pop culture goes,
Speaker 2: like invented all these jokes. It's like, the answer is
Speaker 2: the Simpsons, even if you hate the Simpsons. I don't
Speaker 2: know why I need a hot take like this off
Speaker 2: the top, but I'm sitting in it.
Speaker 1: I love your hot take, and I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I would also take Seinfeld in that, but I think
Speaker 1: The Symptoms is absolutely right. For over thirty years is amazing.
Speaker 1: You're right, they invented so many Very rarely do you
Speaker 1: have a show that comes along that kind of invents
Speaker 1: a new style of comedy, and I think The Symptoms
Speaker 1: have done it. Seinfeld definitely did it. And I think
Speaker 1: the other one that I can think of off the top
Speaker 1: of my head is The Office, the UK Office, I
Speaker 1: think and Ricky Gervays even specifically kind of created a
Speaker 1: style of comedy that I've seen a lot of people
Speaker 1: try to, you know, to replicate, even other actors sometimes
Speaker 1: when they're acting with Ricky Gervays try to try to
Speaker 1: kind of mimic him. But I think you're right, and
Speaker 1: I'm almost You've got me thinking because I you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: I've thought about my three favorite films, and I say,
Speaker 1: it's Godfather Part two. It's playing strains and automobiles, and
Speaker 1: it's Sideways. But I'm a massive Star Wars fan. Like
Speaker 1: there's not there's no movie franchise that has blown me
Speaker 1: away more than Star Wars. It's it's the biggest influence.
Speaker 1: But for some reason, and I mean embarrassed to say
Speaker 1: it after your your heart take, I never really say
Speaker 1: it's in my top three.
Speaker 2: Wow, this could be the end of the Fantastic Space Opera,
Speaker 2: which has influenced millions. Cannot break. Paul Giamardi and Thomas
Speaker 2: Hayden Church drinking wine.
Speaker 3: Like Wookies and e Walks and land Han solo and
Speaker 3: you're like, no, give me Sandra Oh and Thomas Hayden
Speaker 3: Church in Napa Valley having fun.
Speaker 2: We listen. I love Sideways. That's one of my I
Speaker 2: saw that when I was eighteen, and I loved it.
Speaker 2: I bought it, but when you buy movies, I bought
Speaker 2: it first Date for thirty six dollars.
Speaker 1: Have you listened to the DVD commentary with the two
Speaker 1: aforementioned gentleman g Marty and Thomas Hayden Church.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe when I was eighteen, but I don't
Speaker 2: remember anything from it.
Speaker 1: It's one of the It's just one of those David
Speaker 1: a commentaries where you think if they these two had
Speaker 1: a radio show, I would listen. I would be an
Speaker 1: avid listener. Oh yeah, they are so.
Speaker 2: On it. Huh. Yeah, that movie came out when you're
Speaker 2: familiar with Blockbuster Video obviously.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes we have one. I think still reminding
Speaker 1: you Western Australia.
Speaker 2: Really yeah. So I used to work at Blockbuster Video
Speaker 2: when I was seventeen years old, and I was like
Speaker 2: the biggest movie snob. I was like the most annoying,
Speaker 2: like little snobby piece of shit of Like when people
Speaker 2: would bring up movies that I thought were not good,
Speaker 2: I would tell them like, you don't want to see this,
Speaker 2: and so obviously just people with their partners that were
Speaker 2: going to put them on for like ten minutes and
Speaker 2: then start making out. But if someone brought like you know,
Speaker 2: without a paddle or something, I'd be like, this is dribble.
Speaker 2: I sent so many people home with the movie Hotel
Speaker 2: Rwanda who like obviously did not want to like watch
Speaker 2: Hotel Rwanda that night.
Speaker 1: You don't want Super Troopers, you want Hotel Rwandana is literally.
Speaker 2: What I was saying to people, like to a t,
Speaker 2: not caring about their mood or the style movie that
Speaker 2: they wanted. I sent so many people home with Hotel
Speaker 2: Rwanda and Sideways, which is not a movie for everybody.
Speaker 2: Like if you're a small town Canadian hockey man, you
Speaker 2: don't like sideways. Oh, I was such a little snobby brat.
Speaker 1: I love I love Ferris Bueli's Day Off. I am,
Speaker 1: in fact, I watched it. I watched it recently with
Speaker 1: my kids, and I watched it even literally I think
Speaker 1: last week I might not have watched all of it.
Speaker 1: I don't think I watched the last half hounds. It's
Speaker 1: this comes up a lot. It's one of those movies
Speaker 1: that if it's on TV and you catch it, you
Speaker 1: just basically see yourself on accounts and you watch the
Speaker 1: rest of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's such a I watched it recently with
Speaker 2: my girlfriend that we listened to a podcast about it,
Speaker 2: and it's a it's a very like weird movie, like
Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller, nothing bad ever happens to him the whole movie,
Speaker 2: and that really doesn't happen. And like, if you're writing
Speaker 2: a film, like if you somewhat passed an executive Ferris
Speaker 2: Buelow's Day Off, now, they'd be like, nothing happens to
Speaker 2: this guy. This guy just wins all movie. He's just
Speaker 2: a cool guy all movie, and people are supposed to
Speaker 2: It's like yeah, yeah, people are gonna watch that forever.
Speaker 2: Just a cool guy being cool. Yeah, like the movie,
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I got to get home and then
Speaker 2: he does seamlessly and then not.
Speaker 1: It And the scene with Alan Rock that with the
Speaker 1: Ferrari is just it is just a brilliant I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it as I was watching it literally last week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really love to know how that idea came to
Speaker 1: John Hughes, because it's such a brilliant way and something
Speaker 1: I've never seen before. You know, you watch so many
Speaker 1: movies and and and often there you know there's there's
Speaker 1: tropes and that they're predictable, and like you said, this,
Speaker 1: this this protagonist who has nothing go wrong for him,
Speaker 1: not not even when he's up against it. You know
Speaker 1: he's gonna make it. It's incredible. So that the ellen
Speaker 1: Ruck speech, the Cameron speech before he before he kicks
Speaker 1: the car, and then when the car goes through the
Speaker 1: window and down and he kills the car, and then
Speaker 1: the speech he makes out for it's just brilliant.
Speaker 2: Cameron, It's my fault.
Speaker 1: I'll take the heat for it.
Speaker 2: Well, wait for your father to come home, and when
Speaker 2: he gets here, I'll tell him that I did it.
Speaker 1: He hits me anyway, No, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: No, I'll take it. No, No, you don't want this
Speaker 2: much heat. I want it.
Speaker 1: If I didn't want it, I wouldn't let.
Speaker 2: You take the car out this morning. I made you
Speaker 2: take the car this morning.
Speaker 1: I could have stopped you.
Speaker 2: It is possible to stop mister Ferris Bueller.
Speaker 1: You know, No, I want it. I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 1: That's it. When Morris comes home, you know, I'll just
Speaker 1: have a little chat. It's cool. No, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 4: Thanks anyway, And it's it's so good to see Ellen
Speaker 4: Ruck in Succession now, oh yeah, and he pops up
Speaker 4: from time to time, but he's I'm so glad he's
Speaker 4: he's got a gig that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, on the best TV show in the world at
Speaker 1: the moment that we can enjoy.
Speaker 2: And he's so good in Succession too, He's so fantastic.
Speaker 2: But the podcast that we listen to, I can't remember
Speaker 2: what it's called. It's Bill Simmons as like movie podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, the I only got onto it recently because
Speaker 1: somebody suggested it the Rewatchables.
Speaker 2: The Rewatchables, right, so even before listen to that, and
Speaker 2: then they brought it up first and me and my
Speaker 2: girlfriend were like, but we were talking about is Ferris
Speaker 2: Bueller's Day Off a movie about Ferris Bueller or is
Speaker 2: it about camera.
Speaker 1: That's a very interesting question because has the arc.
Speaker 2: He has the full arc. Yeah, feeler sings of God,
Speaker 2: goddamn two songs. This is two songs in the movie.
Speaker 2: He's just sings two songs. This movie is bananas.
Speaker 1: It really is quiet. It's one of those, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's John Hughes film, and it's and it's one
Speaker 1: of these you know, it's it's different obviously than Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club and and and Pretty in Pink and and the like,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's still about kids doing kids things,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of it's kind of groundbreaking. It breaks
Speaker 1: a lot of rules.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 1: So and talking about m mcgru but I so McGraw.
Speaker 1: I've never seen mcgoober. Uh huh. So this is who's
Speaker 1: the star of mcgoober.
Speaker 2: The stars Will Forte. It's a big like SNL cast.
Speaker 2: So it's like Kristin Wig and Maya Rudolph's in it.
Speaker 2: Vuth Kilmer plays the villain. He's like so funny, he's insane.
Speaker 2: I put mcgoober in there because and I was I
Speaker 2: was between two movies because I feel like when you
Speaker 2: are asked what your favorite movie is, it's always something
Speaker 2: that you watched a lot when you were a kid,
Speaker 2: or like a team like I've probably seen Faris Buller
Speaker 2: in Star Wars like each easily like fifteen to twenty times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just because when you're a kid, you have time, you
Speaker 2: don't have to go to work, for God's sake.
Speaker 1: And you probably had them on VHS. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: know those were the films you had, so you just
Speaker 1: watched those films.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But I think and there's two it is mcgroober
Speaker 2: and Mad Max Fury Road are movies that I've seen
Speaker 2: in my like you know, Passage of twenty five that
Speaker 2: I have probably watched like five times both of them,
Speaker 2: which is not a thing. I feel like I don't
Speaker 2: have time to watch movies over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: But those two movies are like kind of contemporary films
Speaker 2: that I've that I've seen over and over again. I
Speaker 2: think mcgrubor I looked it up just now. It has
Speaker 2: like a forty two or something on Rotten Tomatoes. It's
Speaker 2: like the funniest thing that's ever been made before.
Speaker 1: What I admire about your three films? Is that? And
Speaker 1: I think you've alluded to it. There's a certain snobbery
Speaker 1: people will, you know, put even amongst mostly comedians are
Speaker 1: doing this podcast, and still they they might just put
Speaker 1: one comedy in there, and then they will, you know,
Speaker 1: they'll be kind of you know, older kind of classic
Speaker 1: films that they you know, it says a lot about
Speaker 1: us what we put forward as a three favorite films.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I've actually forgotten to give people warning about your
Speaker 1: three favorite films. So just before I press record, I say, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm just gonna ask you three films,
Speaker 1: and they like the panic in their eyes and they
Speaker 1: just I got to basically shut it down for ten
Speaker 1: minutes so they can kind of gather their thoughts. But
Speaker 1: I I like, this comedy gets you know, disregarded so
Speaker 1: many times. You know, it kills me that there's no
Speaker 1: best comedy Oscar. You know, Bridesmaids should be an Oscar
Speaker 1: winning movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and horror too. Like I mean, if I
Speaker 2: think if you looked at like the rotten Tomatoes scores
Speaker 2: of your average comedy or horror movies, it's probably credits.
Speaker 2: Critics think both the genres are bad. Yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 2: and then totally like what was that? What was that
Speaker 2: damn movie? Also, like one of the best movies ever
Speaker 2: just came out, big horror movie the other year Hereditary
Speaker 2: was Hereditary. Yeah, yeah movie, You're like, there's nothing better
Speaker 2: than this this year. It's incredible and doesn't get nominated
Speaker 2: for anything. Sponkers, But you're telling me, extremely loud, incredibly
Speaker 2: close is a good movie? Get out of here.
Speaker 1: The hell I was gonna ask you have you seen
Speaker 1: is it an Australian film that you've seen or that
Speaker 1: looms large? But you've already answered the question with the
Speaker 1: mad Max Fury wrote, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get better than that movie. That movie is insane.
Speaker 2: That's like one of the best movies ever.
Speaker 1: It breaks my heart a little bit, though. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're going to say a sequel because they can't
Speaker 1: for some reason that George Miller and Warner Brothers can't
Speaker 1: come up with a deal. Oh really yeah, like it
Speaker 1: seems like that's not fine. Almost five years ago that film,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: That movie, didn't that movie have a ton of problems
Speaker 2: and like budget cuts and like nobody on set with
Speaker 2: Happy and like the fact that all came together. Was
Speaker 2: kind of like a miracle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it got it got because of the draft
Speaker 1: or storm or either got flood of or they had
Speaker 1: to change locations, you know, and Tom Hardy and Charlisaran
Speaker 1: apparently didn't get on, and it was you know, you
Speaker 1: look at it and you kind of go, yeah, that
Speaker 1: looks like a tough shoot. Oh yeah, you know it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not the Breakfast Club. So yeah, I'm glad. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad we've covered that off. So let's let's get
Speaker 1: into the move where he to discuss I haven't seen
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen war Street either, which is the delight
Speaker 1: in this podcast. And sometimes I get to speak to
Speaker 1: somebody who nominates the film that I haven't seen. It
Speaker 1: han't Alex Edelman hadn't seen Thelm and Louise. We discussed that,
Speaker 1: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Ronnie Chang did Madie
Speaker 1: Manhattan I had. Weirdly, I hadn't seen that Manhattan only
Speaker 1: scraped through on the classic, but I allowed it. I
Speaker 1: allowed it the j LO fans. So I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: war Set because when it came out I was twelve
Speaker 1: years old and this did not have any kind of
Speaker 1: appeal to me. No, no, believe it or not. Well,
Speaker 1: I hadn't you seen Wall Street?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like I feel like I haven't
Speaker 2: seen a lot of like like man movies from the eighties.
Speaker 2: Like I was born in the eighties, so I was
Speaker 2: literally a baby when this came out. So I feel
Speaker 2: like like I haven't seen like Rambo, and I haven't
Speaker 2: seen like Godfather or Godfather Part two. For the love
Speaker 2: of God, I haven't seen I hadn't seen Top Gun
Speaker 2: until I saw it two weeks ago. So kind of
Speaker 2: these like classic like dude flicks, I haven't seen a
Speaker 2: lot of. Also, Wall Street is a movie. When I
Speaker 2: perused and I know Runny we've performed together in Bermudy
Speaker 2: is like the funniest guy in the world. He's one
Speaker 2: of the nicest people ever. When I perused the list
Speaker 2: of movies and you've kind of the like touched on this,
Speaker 2: I was like, huh made in Manhatt Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's is that a good movie? This one
Speaker 2: sticks out? But now after watching the film Wall Street,
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe I have leapfrogged Ronnie because let
Speaker 2: me tell you, Pete, this movie is bad, so dumb,
Speaker 2: and I'm watching it, and after I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: maybe Made in Manhattan is better. It's probably better than
Speaker 2: Wall Street.
Speaker 1: It's it's so interesting you say that, and you have
Speaker 1: come out hot, You've hit the ground running. I've had
Speaker 1: people on the podcast have gone, yeah, I'm I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: and then by the end of the podcast, after discussing it,
Speaker 1: they've come like, actually, I think I might watch it again.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I've talked to myself and we've
Speaker 1: disgusted enough that I think, Okay, maybe I have more
Speaker 1: of an appreciated I'm not sure if I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk you into liking Wall Street, because I had a
Speaker 1: similar underwhelming reaction to it, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: I had seen it, maybe not in nineteen eighty seven
Speaker 1: when I was twelve, but maybe, you know, a few years.
Speaker 1: If I saw it in nearly nineties, maybe I would
Speaker 1: have had a different reaction. But I think perhaps after
Speaker 1: seeing Wolf of wall Street and The Big Short and
Speaker 1: more recent movies based on Wall Street, that it just
Speaker 1: was a bit underwhelming.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I just am questioning why I ever
Speaker 2: thought that this was like, is this held up as
Speaker 2: a classic because I have this, like, I mean this
Speaker 2: list of the beginning of COVID of like movies I
Speaker 2: want to watch, and I have it here. It's like
Speaker 2: Casino eight and a half, Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.
Speaker 2: I've got Rear Window, but I put Wall Street on there.
Speaker 2: Why did I think Wall Street? Cleo from five to seven,
Speaker 2: kill Bill singing in the rain? Wall Street? Like, why
Speaker 2: did I think? Does it have this aura around it
Speaker 2: that it's like because why I know, Michael Douglas won
Speaker 2: the Oscar for Best Actor, and I mean I feel
Speaker 2: like he deserves ten Oscars for that performance because he
Speaker 2: is like one of the only redeeming qualities of this
Speaker 2: whole movie. He is, like, Michael Douglas brings it so
Speaker 2: hard that he is so watchable in this movie that like,
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what it would have been like
Speaker 2: if it was not Michael Douglas, because he's just phenomenal.
Speaker 1: It's the only film that has won an Oscar and
Speaker 1: a Razzie. Yeah. Do you know who won the Rezie?
Speaker 2: Yeah it was it was what's the phrase? Yeah, Daryl Hannah,
Speaker 2: which wolf? She is like, first of all, like the
Speaker 2: movie for twelve minutes. She's the third build actor in
Speaker 2: the film and she's in it for like twelve minutes.
Speaker 2: Charlie Sheen is just insane in this movie. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's bonkers.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I remember when I read that that's that
Speaker 1: that fact about the Oscar and the Razzi. I started
Speaker 1: thinking about Daryl Hannah because I've only had, you know,
Speaker 1: reasonably decent thoughts about Darryl Hannah. I've never wished her
Speaker 1: ill will. She's never She's never you know, pissed me off. Well,
Speaker 1: I have a voodoo doll ill will with Daryl Hannah.
Speaker 1: But you know, she was good in Kill Bill. She
Speaker 1: you know, Splash was I have fond memories of Splash
Speaker 1: growing up, Daryl Hannah and Tom Hanks and John Candy.
Speaker 1: But she I think she's just out of her depth
Speaker 1: in this. But I also think that there's not much
Speaker 1: for her to work with, you know, in this I
Speaker 1: think Oliver Stone prefers to write for men than he
Speaker 1: does for women.
Speaker 2: Because I read that Daryl Hannah said that she had
Speaker 2: a miserable time on this shoot and she thinks Oliverstone
Speaker 2: is a misogynist. And she's never seen the movie, so
Speaker 2: you can really tell that she doesn't want to be
Speaker 2: there in the movie.
Speaker 1: Yes, And because I don't wish Daryl Hannah any ill will,
Speaker 1: I suggested she does not ever watch this movie.
Speaker 2: Absolutely that Why did I pick this? Why did I
Speaker 2: want to see Wall Street? Well?
Speaker 1: Because when I because I just know I message you
Speaker 1: saying listen, I'm doing this this podcast. And if you
Speaker 1: if you, if you're interally watching a classic film and
Speaker 1: chatting about it, and you were like, wow, this this
Speaker 1: is weird because I just watched Wall Street, you know,
Speaker 1: last night, So I'm like, well, let's do that. So
Speaker 1: I think it might have been the timing of the message.
Speaker 2: WHOA well, because I mean I listened to Wall Street.
Speaker 2: I can't remember the other films. I'm sure the other
Speaker 2: ones were class because this list that I have is classics.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean where to start with? What is
Speaker 2: was sushi? So you were twelve when this movie? Was
Speaker 2: sushi like the weirdest thing in the world in the eighties?
Speaker 2: Was it like for only millionaires? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I do remember sushi being quite a weird thing.
Speaker 1: Hence Mountain Sheen sniffing.
Speaker 2: Is yeah, yeah, he sniffs as sushi.
Speaker 1: But I was quite impressed with the sushi maker. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've never seen that. Actually would a mind one of those.
Speaker 2: There's so much technology. I read that the first time
Speaker 2: a mobile phone was shown on uh in a movie
Speaker 2: was this, and that hand scanner was bonkers, Like I
Speaker 2: didn't even know that that was a thing that looked
Speaker 2: like it was from Star Wars or something.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that. So for those who haven't seen
Speaker 1: you know, we advise you watched a movie before.
Speaker 2: You gotta see this.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it now, you're probably not gonna
Speaker 1: watch it after the last three minutes.
Speaker 2: That Scanner deserves best supporting actor, not I think, because.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that. I've never heard about that. But
Speaker 1: there are some things we see in American movies that
Speaker 1: you know, like pages were a much bigger thing in America,
Speaker 1: it seems based on movies and they ever were in Australia.
Speaker 1: They were pages. I remember my dad having a pager
Speaker 1: for a very brief period of time. But pages, if
Speaker 1: you judged American movies were like, you know, everyone had
Speaker 1: a page and they were so important for a period
Speaker 1: for a long period of time in the eighties nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but can you imagine having a hand scanner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's scanning documents. Yeah, and he's getting a
Speaker 1: print out straight away.
Speaker 2: Mission impossible. Like Tom Cruise had that now in a
Speaker 2: mission impossible, I'd be like, Oh, that's fancy technology. I
Speaker 2: wonder when they're going to develop that.
Speaker 1: Did you let the robot at the party?
Speaker 2: Oh? The I mean the robot at the party? This
Speaker 2: movie is ridiculous, Like I don't know whether we're supposed
Speaker 2: to be impressed by his apartment. It like looks awful.
Speaker 2: Are we supposed to be like, oh, this is so
Speaker 2: gaudy and bad, or are we supposed to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is sick, this is sweet. Everybody wants this the
Speaker 2: I mean, one of my favorite bands is of the
Speaker 2: Talking Heads, And I don't know if there's ever been
Speaker 2: a more out of place song than Naive Melody in
Speaker 2: this movie, like because he's like he takes the house
Speaker 2: and he's like, this is home, and then Naive Melody
Speaker 2: starts playing and there's a montage of making the house
Speaker 2: and then that's the song that comes on in the credits,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this doesn't match up. I think Oliver
Speaker 2: stro Soon just likes David Byrne.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I might be wrong, but I
Speaker 1: think I've read the David Ben was in the film,
Speaker 1: but I I might be wrong. I might be wrong
Speaker 1: about that, but I know, all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: was very proud that he that he used talking heads
Speaker 1: and that he used also the opening song, which is
Speaker 1: an old standard kind of snatcher style standup which which
Speaker 1: is kind of scapes me. Yeah right now. But the
Speaker 1: robot was like that robot would have got kicked off
Speaker 1: a doctor who said, you know, it was it was,
Speaker 1: It was not, it was not. And this is where
Speaker 1: when we're doing this podcast, I would love to be
Speaker 1: able to go back in time. If I had a
Speaker 1: time machine, I would only use it to go back
Speaker 1: and watch movies, knowingly, just or watch movies and kind
Speaker 1: of feel, you know, go back to a time where
Speaker 1: I can watch Wall Street and can be blown away
Speaker 1: by the robot.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, do you think that was Do you think
Speaker 2: that was as big as like the hoverboard and Back
Speaker 2: to the Future was When people saw that robot, people like, oh,
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna have a robot.
Speaker 1: Well maybe because he's he's you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: ten years out the Star Wars, we've had MPOM, we've
Speaker 1: had a return of the Jennson said, maybe they've gone
Speaker 1: listen all of it. We need the merch, you know,
Speaker 1: we need to sell some ployees. Can you get anything
Speaker 1: we can sell that came out?
Speaker 2: What are the kids buying after they see Wall Street?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this movie. I've never felt so
Speaker 2: dumb and yet thought that something was so dumb at
Speaker 2: the same time. I don't know anything about personal finance
Speaker 2: and I don't know anything about so when they're like
Speaker 2: sometimes when they're talking and the way that, like the
Speaker 2: other movies that you mentioned, like like investing in the
Speaker 2: stock market are such complex top topics. Like a movie,
Speaker 2: like what was the movie that you mentioned? Yeah, Big Short,
Speaker 2: Big Short literally has like interstitial parts where they're explaining
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: Kind of like in a bubble bath.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like Anthony Bourdain makes a cameo. They're
Speaker 2: just like flying through buying and selling in bull markets,
Speaker 2: and like, I don't know what any of this stuff means,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that means. Do you know
Speaker 2: what all this stuff means? Were you following like.
Speaker 1: So much of the information we know over my head,
Speaker 1: Like I kind of have a rough idea what a
Speaker 1: bull and a bear market is and I know what
Speaker 1: insider trading is. Yeah, that's about where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like, get me three hundred chairs at
Speaker 2: twelve point five and I'll do the six percent dividend.
Speaker 2: I'm like this, I'm pretty sure that's a bad guy,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to take that in the scene that
Speaker 2: that's just a bad guy.
Speaker 1: Well, I I We did a podcast recently with a
Speaker 1: great comedian here in Australia, Kadi Flanagan, and we chatted
Speaker 1: about The Matrix and neither of us understood a whole
Speaker 1: lot of it, you know, And we had the discussion
Speaker 1: and I'll ask you, can you I know you didn't
Speaker 1: enjoy Wall Street, but can you still enjoy a film
Speaker 1: that you don't completely understand? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, I mean I think so, like I
Speaker 2: enjoyed the Matrix. Here's the problem with the Matrix and
Speaker 2: Wall Street, though, is that if you don't understand the Matrix,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you don't understand like some like philosophy
Speaker 2: and metaphysics and stuff like the fact that I don't
Speaker 2: understand Wall Street is like, oh, I don't understand how
Speaker 2: the world works. And I'm probably being screwed every single day,
Speaker 2: Like like the decisions made in the matrix world are
Speaker 2: not like, you know, Neo's not getting a fifteen billion
Speaker 2: dollar bailout from the government, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But it's like this this stuff is like actually tangible
Speaker 2: and important and kind of affecting a life. I had
Speaker 2: my very first so I don't know anything about money,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you invest or do anything.
Speaker 2: So I just have a bunch of money like lying
Speaker 2: in my I just sits in my checking account, like
Speaker 2: it just does it. And then someone was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, you're like the dumbest idiot in the world
Speaker 2: if you just have your money in your checking account,
Speaker 2: that's what are you doing. That's stupid. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: what should I do? And then he's like, oh, you
Speaker 2: should call this guy. So I call this guy and
Speaker 2: we have like a two hour long conversation and he
Speaker 2: tells me about how this is how the world works
Speaker 2: and I should invest it here, and I don't understand.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like listening to the movie Wall Street.
Speaker 2: I don't understand a word that he's saying. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: because the boomers are retiring, and then the gen x
Speaker 2: and here's what's going on here, and they're printing money
Speaker 2: and gold is more valuable, and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know what this person talking about. But at the end
Speaker 2: of the two hour conversation, which I cannot tell you
Speaker 2: really anything about, I'm proud to say that I'm giving
Speaker 2: this man all of my money. I don't know at
Speaker 2: the end of the at the end of the conversation,
Speaker 2: because he was like, we're going to move the money,
Speaker 2: and I was like, at the end, I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: so it's still in my I can still use my bank.
Speaker 2: This guy works at another bank. We've had this two
Speaker 2: hour conversation. How he's explained like literally like the world
Speaker 2: to me, And at the end, I'm like, so, it's
Speaker 2: like if you explained buzzie rules football to me for
Speaker 2: two hours and I didn't you. I clearly didn't get it.
Speaker 2: And at the end, I was like, we're playing hockey
Speaker 2: and You're like, no, like, just explain this to you forever.
Speaker 2: Except in this scenario, I'm literally giving him all of
Speaker 2: my money I have.
Speaker 1: I'm very similar. I have no business now and it
Speaker 1: is all as my granddad would say, mumbo jumbo, And
Speaker 1: I often sit in those meetings, and all I'm concerned
Speaker 1: about is that at some point they're going to ask me,
Speaker 1: do you have any questions? And then all I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do is formulate one question that makes me not
Speaker 1: sound like a complete buffoon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I feel like I really blew it
Speaker 2: with this conversation because money is going to go in
Speaker 2: a different bank.
Speaker 1: Did you have you ever taken a business meeting in
Speaker 1: a sauna? That happens a lot in the American movies?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I also never I'm waiting for my accountdice.
Speaker 2: Then be a prostitute. I think that should be happening today,
Speaker 2: a prostitute. Is there something? I mean, this movie is
Speaker 2: very It's like there's not a lot of women in
Speaker 2: this movie. It's like Daryl Hannah. Who does Daryl Hannah
Speaker 2: have to be in this movie? Like? What is this?
Speaker 2: What is the character? Well?
Speaker 1: The weird thing is I wonder if there was they
Speaker 1: lost stuff in the edit, because there seems to be
Speaker 1: like an interesting dynamic between Daryl Hannah has previously seen
Speaker 1: had a relationship with Michael Douglas, that is, you know,
Speaker 1: and she says, do not tell him, and then from
Speaker 1: my recollection. Maybe you know, maybe I'm noted off at
Speaker 1: some point, but it doesn't. Nothing happens. They set something
Speaker 1: up and then it doesn't. There's no payoff. Sean Young
Speaker 1: is Michael Douglas's wife, and she doesn't really offer much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's written, it's really there's three characters. Really, it's Charlie Sheen,
Speaker 1: it's Michael Douglas and and and Martin Sheen. And thank
Speaker 1: god for Martin Sheen as well, because at least he
Speaker 1: gives the movie some humanity. Even though he starts off
Speaker 1: as I think, as one character. Then he becomes President
Speaker 1: Bartlett in the second half of the movie or the
Speaker 1: third act, where he kind of he seems like he
Speaker 1: slightly seems like a different character, like he knows more
Speaker 1: than he did. He's a bit of a bit of
Speaker 1: a bum at the start that you know, not a bum,
Speaker 1: but he's you know, he's a working guy, and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he's asking questions and he's judging,
Speaker 1: and you know, and and and then he kind of
Speaker 1: all of a sudden understands how the world works completely
Speaker 1: in that in that last act.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he starts talking like an old jazz man
Speaker 2: or something. He's like, I don't go to bed with
Speaker 2: a whore and then wake up with a whore. Did
Speaker 2: you talk like this the whole movie? And he's like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I can't believe I lived long enough to see it all.
Speaker 2: And you're like, what's this guy like the smartest guy
Speaker 2: in the room or something. I think there's a heart
Speaker 2: attack and you're like what. He comes back to work
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, your dad had a herd attack
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, I gotta go tell him. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna So movie makes little sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also the smoking that goes on. I understand
Speaker 1: there's a lot of smoking in the eighties, and I
Speaker 1: remember the smoking indoors, and you know, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what it's like in Canada, but certainly in Australia basically
Speaker 1: for many years now. You've not been out of smoke
Speaker 1: indoors for many years, but I'm not even sure. In
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, he felt to be smoking at my
Speaker 1: father's bedside. What is he nice for you?
Speaker 2: I just also, did you notice that there was another
Speaker 2: two people in the room, Like he had a shared
Speaker 2: hospital room, so you could see over Charlie Sheen's shoulder.
Speaker 2: There's like a man in a bed and like a
Speaker 2: woman standing over him while this conversations going on.
Speaker 1: And the other thing about this movie that I think is,
Speaker 1: you know, a big weakness. I think we feel like
Speaker 1: we both agree on it's just so predictable. And I'm
Speaker 1: not sure because it's a movie now that's you know,
Speaker 1: thirty over thirty years old, and you know, maybe it's
Speaker 1: been copied, but I feel like it's you kind of
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. It's the wide eyed protege
Speaker 1: under the Master, gets corrupted under the Master, then takes
Speaker 1: has an awakening and takes revenge on the Master. And
Speaker 1: you could kind of see, you kind of could see,
Speaker 1: of course, Martin Sheen's going to have some kind of
Speaker 1: heart attack or die or you know, and that's going
Speaker 1: to be up. Brings Buddy Fox out of his you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's you know, he's ambition.
Speaker 2: Also, the names in this movie are Wild Gecko, we
Speaker 2: got Bud Fox. I can't even remember Darryl. Hannah's name
Speaker 2: is like Doria, what's her.
Speaker 1: Name, yeah, Doria Shark. I think it is. It's so
Speaker 1: funny because a point three quarters away through in the movie,
Speaker 1: I thought Gordon Get Get Go. He's a lizard and
Speaker 1: you know, he's you know, he's it's slimy and whatever.
Speaker 1: But then I'd never actually kind of thought about Buddy
Speaker 1: Fox until I kind of rewatched the last half hour
Speaker 1: of the movie tonight. It's because I've kind of forgotten
Speaker 1: what happened to Daryl Hannah again, so it was only
Speaker 1: really like kind of okay, there's an animal kind of
Speaker 1: motief going on here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the because I just rewatched the last
Speaker 2: half an hour and there's a scene where Gordon Gecko
Speaker 2: is like looking at the window and he's like, if
Speaker 2: I find out who this, I'm gonna tear out his
Speaker 2: eye it suck his skull. It's like some of the
Speaker 2: lines of this movie are wild. When when they're like
Speaker 2: having their first dinner in the house and she's like,
Speaker 2: isn't it perfect? Like they're having sushi for the first time,
Speaker 2: and she's like, isn't it perfect? They're having sushi in
Speaker 2: something else. It's like sushi is on the side and
Speaker 2: they're also having like soup. It's like the most bizarre
Speaker 2: meal you've ever seen. And she's like, isn't it perfect?
Speaker 2: And then he goes, it's too perfect. I don't even
Speaker 2: want to eat it. I just want to watch think
Speaker 2: about it. It's like what watch the food, think about
Speaker 2: the food. And then they have sex and this like
Speaker 2: Daryl Hannah is like this this weird like swan like
Speaker 2: sex that no one has ever had before. And then
Speaker 2: the next scene is Charlie she like looking off into
Speaker 2: the distance on his balcony goes, oh, am, I like
Speaker 2: this movie is so dumb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even you mentioned it before when he buys
Speaker 1: the house and he says, this is home now. We've
Speaker 1: given no reason to know why it makes him feel
Speaker 1: like this is home. Yeah, yeah, we know obviously it's overlooking,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's in a skyscraper and it's overlooking
Speaker 1: New York, and it's you know obviously probably in Manhattan
Speaker 1: or somewhere. But he seems to you know, like, no,
Speaker 1: this is a spiritual home now, and it just it
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like I don't know why you've decided
Speaker 1: that there's probably you know, another you know, three hundred
Speaker 1: apartments that are exactly like this. What's special about this apartment?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because like with his with Martin Sheen's character,
Speaker 2: like he has such a good seeming upbringing, like his
Speaker 2: dad is like this kind of blue collar guy who
Speaker 2: seems to really love him and give him good advice,
Speaker 2: but he's just such a fuck up like Cheater.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, first of all, Martin Sheen could be Charlie
Speaker 1: Cheane's brother in this, like c it looks fucking amazing,
Speaker 1: But I think you're right. I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: if you're ready or knew that Tom Cruise kind of
Speaker 1: lobbied to play this part. I mean there's problems I think,
Speaker 1: you know, with the script and a lot of things,
Speaker 1: but I wonder I think that would make it a
Speaker 1: better film because I don't think Charlie Sheen's very good
Speaker 1: in this.
Speaker 2: Oh he's awful and like even acting like I didn't
Speaker 2: even believe, like it's bad when you're acting with your
Speaker 2: dad and I don't believe that that's your dad, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: this guy's but it's almost like real life because Charlie
Speaker 2: Sheen is like this deplorable, like weird actor turned stand
Speaker 2: up comedian, like mess and like marn Gane. I've always
Speaker 2: felt like, oh, Martinchine seems nice. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's true. There might be some weird Martin gine stuff.
Speaker 1: But well, what I like to do sometimes with this
Speaker 1: podcast is the look at the time for the actor
Speaker 1: and even at the director. And we can do it
Speaker 1: with Charlie Sheen because it's quite interesting. Actually, Like he's
Speaker 1: only made, you know, probably two great films. So in
Speaker 1: eighty four he makes Red Dawn. In eighty six he's
Speaker 1: in it makes a cameo in one of your favorite films,
Speaker 1: Forrest Bueler's Day Off at the Police Station with Jennifer Gray.
Speaker 2: Which I turned to my girlfriend and I was like,
Speaker 2: is this a Ferris Bueler prequel? Like does he get
Speaker 2: in a jail and gets hooked on drugs and he
Speaker 2: needs Jennifer Jennifer Gray at the at the jailhouse a
Speaker 2: theory that I.
Speaker 1: Mean Platoon in the eighty six great film, great film
Speaker 1: with Oliverstone, works with Allvestone again in with Wall Street.
Speaker 1: Then the following year he makes Young Guns. Now that
Speaker 1: is a popcorn cowboy movie that I'm absolutely here for.
Speaker 1: I loved Young Guns and I grabs also a bon
Speaker 1: Jovi fan. That was the first concert I went to,
Speaker 1: so Young Guns too, which Charlie Cheene wasn't end. But
Speaker 1: when John bon Jovi he did the soundtrack for Young
Speaker 1: Guns too. It was you know, my worlds were wid
Speaker 1: I was extremely happy in eighty ninety makes Major League,
Speaker 1: which is which is a fine baseball film. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burnson, It's it's Wesley Snipes. Then he makes Men
Speaker 1: at Work with his brother Emilio, a garbagemen. Not great
Speaker 1: hot Shots in ninety one, the kind of parody, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of film. If I was hot Shots two in
Speaker 1: ninety three, and basically then on hot Shots, I think
Speaker 1: ruined ruined it. He And I'm not sure whether it
Speaker 1: was bad choices or that Hollywood just knew that he
Speaker 1: actually wasn't that good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's been so long since I saw Platoon,
Speaker 2: and I didn't really love Platoon. But it's I watched
Speaker 2: Platoon directly after watching Full Metal Jacket, which I feel
Speaker 2: like it's such a superior, root superior movie to Platoon
Speaker 2: that I wasn't really impressed with Platoon. Maybe it's a
Speaker 2: movie that I got to go back to because I
Speaker 2: know it's like people listed on like best war movies ever.
Speaker 2: But I don't know when I saw it, just maybe
Speaker 2: because I still had the taste of Full Metal Jacket
Speaker 2: in my mouth. But I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: it's like having sushi and then having soup. Oh, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, is there a less appetiting because you
Speaker 2: know sometimes in movies you see food and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's the best thing I've ever seen. Like I've been
Speaker 2: watching a lot of anime movies, like have you ever
Speaker 2: seen like My Neighbor Toto ro or like Spirited Away
Speaker 2: or any of those movies. Yeah, yeah, so the food
Speaker 2: and Spirited Away looks like so good, Like I want
Speaker 2: it even though it's a cartoon. Is there anything less
Speaker 2: appetizing than the four pounds of steak tartar that Charlie
Speaker 2: Sheen gets served in the restaurant when he after the
Speaker 2: first leading with Michael Douglas, Like, oh, He's like, I'm
Speaker 2: going to treat you right, and then it's served Its
Speaker 2: like size of a hand. I told me. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have diarrhea. Well, I'm supposed to eat all
Speaker 2: of this raw beef. This is disgusting.
Speaker 1: I think it was made by the robot in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: Just pounding beef.
Speaker 1: There was there was a faux part that I read
Speaker 1: in some of the trivia about the film So this
Speaker 1: movie is made in eighty seven before the wallmarket crash,
Speaker 1: which didn't affect the film because the film is set
Speaker 1: in eighty five. There's a reference made by I think
Speaker 1: his name is John C. McGinley, who was in Scrubs
Speaker 1: years later, but he makes a reference to the Challenger
Speaker 1: disaster which happened in eighty six. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: It's amazing because we talk about there being issues with
Speaker 1: the scripts and that as much as it seems like
Speaker 1: a little detail that got through, it does give you
Speaker 1: an indication that maybe there wasn't enough attention across the
Speaker 1: script as a whole.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Let's the end of the film. They can kind of
Speaker 1: cut to the end of the film. So it's interesting
Speaker 1: that Buddy Buddy's triumph and you know this is going
Speaker 1: to happen. You know, he's gonna, you know, take down
Speaker 1: the Master. Yeah, drive is quite short lived, which I
Speaker 1: quite quite liked. I like that, you know, he basically
Speaker 1: set up the sting he got And by the way,
Speaker 1: didn't Gordon Gecko just give all the information when Buddy
Speaker 1: was wearing a wire, Like as soon as he's like
Speaker 1: talking that much, you're gonna go ah, he's where he's
Speaker 1: wearing a wire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as I said, it's self predictable. And he's just
Speaker 2: like punching him, but throws him by a little serviette,
Speaker 2: throw some some napkins after he punches in the face
Speaker 2: a few times. And I don't know what that's supposed
Speaker 2: to mean, Like, is are we supposed to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's actually kind of nice.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're supposed to mean that he did
Speaker 1: genuinely have any I think he says, you could have
Speaker 1: been one of the greats. And I think he thought
Speaker 1: he he maybe had a protege. And also because he
Speaker 1: was making money off him as well, like he was,
Speaker 1: you know, a source of income that you know, and
Speaker 1: he probably grew to like him, I imagine. But yeah,
Speaker 1: all the spluttering of the overt information, he really just
Speaker 1: gave every every little detail. He just recounted the plot
Speaker 1: of Wall Street basically like the Charlie Sheen I did.
Speaker 1: Like I did, like the idea that there was Hal Hobrook,
Speaker 1: who you know, he is the old guy who works
Speaker 1: in the Charlie Sheen's broker office that doesn't quite approve
Speaker 1: of what he does. Like the idea that there was
Speaker 1: a mentor there for him if he had been looking
Speaker 1: for the right things. But he was looking just for
Speaker 1: the greed and and the fast track to the good
Speaker 1: life that he you know, he kind of overlooked this
Speaker 1: older dude with experience that would have you know, been
Speaker 1: a fine mentor and he went straight to the you know,
Speaker 1: Gordon Gecko. I got to like that as a you know,
Speaker 1: it's subtle, but it's I think it's it's there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so weird that, I mean, he has so
Speaker 2: many good older mentors. It's like his he has his father,
Speaker 2: he has his like, he has that guy. But then
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I went to university and this is
Speaker 2: my idols, Gordon Gecko, and Gordon Gecko is like so mean.
Speaker 2: He's just such a mean man that he idolizes for
Speaker 2: some reason. It just kind of doesn't make sense that
Speaker 2: he would have all these great like father figure mentors.
Speaker 2: But yet he's still I guess, like the movie is
Speaker 2: about like capitalism has like tainted him, dude, and he
Speaker 2: like just wants money, man and get go could get
Speaker 2: it to him, and it's not through. It's also I mean,
Speaker 2: because I'm so stupid and I don't know anything about finances.
Speaker 2: It was a relief to see that the way that
Speaker 2: he was going to help Gordon Gecko was not to
Speaker 2: give him actual good stock tips and do research, but
Speaker 2: it was to like, the real way to make it
Speaker 2: is to get on a motorcycle that we're about to
Speaker 2: introduce that you have and follow this rich guy around town.
Speaker 2: It's like, that's how to play the market.
Speaker 1: You're like, don't really understand how just following somebody. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know how they explain it that he's gone to
Speaker 1: a certain place so that they put it together, but
Speaker 1: like it happened very quickly, Like it is very like
Speaker 1: it was very convenient. I'm I'm all for a little
Speaker 1: bit of movie convenience from time to time, but that
Speaker 1: was very convenient.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's kicked out of the restaurant. He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm going to come, and it's like do you have
Speaker 2: a reservation? He's like no, and he's like you got
Speaker 2: to leave and he's like okay, and then he's like, well,
Speaker 2: I'll fall into the airport. It's like, we know iron,
Speaker 2: he's buying Chinese iron. Good job. Did you did something
Speaker 2: that literally anyone could have done. It's like follow the
Speaker 2: car until you know what plane he's getting on, and
Speaker 2: then I know what to do. We're rich. This is
Speaker 2: Wall Street, Baby, have some beef.
Speaker 1: I reckon, I reckon. We have done Wall Street. I
Speaker 1: think we've done very well to chat about it for
Speaker 1: this long. The only other thing I'll point out is
Speaker 1: all of the stonehere? Do you stand on all of
Speaker 1: the stone?
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a ton of all of us movies?
Speaker 2: What are other? Because I thought, for some reason Oliver
Speaker 2: Stone did Quiz Show, which is a movie that I love,
Speaker 2: But that's Robert Redford.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But when he was coming up with this idea,
Speaker 1: well the original state for the audio, he wanted to
Speaker 1: write a funnily enough a movie about the Quish Show scandals,
Speaker 1: and that was what he started working on. And then
Speaker 1: somebody else suggested that maybe Wall Street because his dad
Speaker 1: was a This movie is dedicated to his dad was
Speaker 1: a Wall Street broker. So and then Robert Reford made
Speaker 1: Quiz Show with Ray Fines, great film. So all of
Speaker 1: a stone to take you through? I've got here. He
Speaker 1: made Salvador in eighty six with James Woods. I think
Speaker 1: Platoon also eighty six, Wall Street eighty seven, nice little
Speaker 1: film called Talk Radio with Eric Bagozi in eighty eight,
Speaker 1: Born on the Fourth of July with Tom Cruise who
Speaker 1: finally got to work with the Doors in ninety one.
Speaker 1: JFK also in ninety one. I don't know I've mentioned
Speaker 1: it's on the podcast before. I saw JFK when I
Speaker 1: was fifteen on my family vacation in Queensland, which is
Speaker 1: in the north of Australia, and I was basically dropped
Speaker 1: off at a cinema and my mum came and got
Speaker 1: me three hours later, and I was like blown away.
Speaker 1: I as wide as a go. You know, this is
Speaker 1: when I just believed everything I saw on the screen.
Speaker 1: I love JK, How you can make JFK? And another
Speaker 1: movie about Jim Morrison in the same year, Blow My Mind,
Speaker 1: to be Honest, Heaven and Earth Tommy Lee Jones, Natural
Speaker 1: Board Killers in ninety four, Tarantino's first Scripts Nixon, great
Speaker 1: movie called You Turn in ninety seven with Jennifer Lopez
Speaker 1: and Sean Penn, great little film. And then Any Given
Speaker 1: Sunday in ninety nine, which is one of the all
Speaker 1: time great sports films with Albacino, and then That's kind
Speaker 1: Of to be honest, That's kind of the end of
Speaker 1: his I Think Great Run. I think. He made a
Speaker 1: documentary called about him meeting Castro. In two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: he made the film Alexander But Alexander the Great with
Speaker 1: Angela and Joelie and Colin Farrell.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and that's like one of the worst movies
Speaker 2: of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he made Will Trade Center, which is okay,
Speaker 1: and obviously, you know there was a a lot emotionally
Speaker 1: loaded into that. In two thousand and six, w with
Speaker 1: Josh Browl and playing George W. Bush. Have you seen that?
Speaker 2: No, No, it's.
Speaker 1: Fun, it's fun enough. It's fun enough. And then he
Speaker 1: made The Secret But the Good News Is for you,
Speaker 1: Adam Christy, there's a sequel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with what's his face? The guy from Hall's right.
Speaker 1: He did the Indiana Jones Rey Boots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on He was on that show when
Speaker 2: he was a kid. Oh god, his name is right,
Speaker 2: he was on even Stevens. His name is He's one
Speaker 2: of the most famous guys in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gone old Artie and Weedy buff Yes, absolutely, the
Speaker 1: other fascinating thing. And so the last kind of film
Speaker 1: of note that, obviously, mate was snowed in two thousand
Speaker 1: and six. But he also wrote which I wasn't aware of.
Speaker 1: He wrote He wrote most of those films that he directed,
Speaker 1: but he also wrote Midnight Express, He wrote Scarface hm hm,
Speaker 1: and this is a weird one. He wrote Cone and
Speaker 1: the Barbarian.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: So I had no idea. All of the Stone basically
Speaker 1: introduced us to Arnold Schwarzenegger. Right, that was the weirdest
Speaker 1: fact that I read about any of this.
Speaker 2: You know what my favorite weird Maybe I already know
Speaker 2: the answer to this. Maybe this is like so well
Speaker 2: known and I'm a fool for even saying. But do
Speaker 2: you know what director.
Speaker 1: Let me guess. Let me guess. Tom Cruise played Maverick
Speaker 1: in Top Gun.
Speaker 2: You got it? That's trivia I have. Dude, you're the king.
Speaker 2: You are the king.
Speaker 1: That's why podcast.
Speaker 2: Do you know who wrote the movie? Do you know
Speaker 2: who wrote the animated film? Stuart Little?
Speaker 1: It wasn't John Hughes, No, it was it was somebody like.
Speaker 2: Was this because John Hughes had some weird ones? But
Speaker 2: I think there were like scripts that were kind of
Speaker 2: taken out of his hands.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, yeah, it wasn't. I want to say Alexander
Speaker 1: because it was talking about sodwise early, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's Alexander Pine.
Speaker 2: No, it was m Night shyamalt Oh yeah, like just
Speaker 2: the weirdest left field. I mean, I guess get paid,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if someone asks you
Speaker 2: and you want the money to do it.
Speaker 1: The way it was the twist and shoot little.
Speaker 2: Let's I turned out that I don't. I can't even
Speaker 2: make it. I feel like everything that's going to come
Speaker 2: out of my mouth is going to be the hackiest
Speaker 2: joke that's ever lived. And I you know, we'll post
Speaker 2: COVID times. I can't be hacky anymore.
Speaker 1: Before I wrap up, I want to mention something is
Speaker 1: born out of Canada and I know you've been involved
Speaker 1: with it. It's given a lot of people around the
Speaker 1: world a lot of joy, including this very household.
Speaker 2: I think I know what you're going at. Yeah, pablem
Speaker 2: which was invented at Sicket Hospital in Toronto the world.
Speaker 1: No, it.
Speaker 2: Was.
Speaker 1: It was, of course the Grassy Junior High and no,
Speaker 1: Ship's Creek is my wife is sleep in that room there,
Speaker 1: and no doubt ships we'll be playing on the television.
Speaker 1: It's it's what we was put on every night. We've
Speaker 1: seen every episode. We we love it. You played you
Speaker 1: had I think a pivotal role the entire series where
Speaker 1: you played a on the Rose video training video with
Speaker 1: the amazing kat O'Hara, who's if you haven't seen Ship's
Speaker 1: Creek and part of me wanted to bring it up
Speaker 1: is just to urge people to watch it.
Speaker 2: It's Creek.
Speaker 1: Katain O'Hara's creation of Moira Rose is one of the
Speaker 1: all time great comedy creations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a genius.
Speaker 1: And you played so you were in a training video
Speaker 1: a with her that and I'm not sure how much
Speaker 1: time you spent, you know, around and I know your
Speaker 1: partner has directed episodes, but it is What I love
Speaker 1: about Shit's Creek is the inclusiveness of not only the
Speaker 1: more Rose character, but the David character, who's who's who's
Speaker 1: in a gay relationship. And they're set in a small town,
Speaker 1: so you kind of expect the hacky version of doing
Speaker 1: this is that the small town you know, rolling their
Speaker 1: eyes and the judgment, but they just don't do any
Speaker 1: of that. And they instead of like trying to reflect
Speaker 1: what you might think would happen, they kind of almost
Speaker 1: proposed this wouldn't it be wouldn't there will be much
Speaker 1: better if this is the way it was?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which I like. And I mean I
Speaker 2: wasn't on set with Catherine for a long time. It
Speaker 2: was maybe like forty five minutes, but it was like
Speaker 2: like in between scenes, like I just had a moment
Speaker 2: where I was like, oh my god, this is like
Speaker 2: being in like a Christopher Quest movie or something like.
Speaker 2: This is what it feels to like act with Catherine O'Hara.
Speaker 2: It's like, definitely a highlight of my life. It was
Speaker 2: purely insane that she's like the nicest person in the world.
Speaker 2: And she's also very small. I mean, I think that's
Speaker 2: the thing that you like, you meet anyone who's famous,
Speaker 2: and they're always shorter than you think. But she's like
Speaker 2: five foot two. It's crazy, really, and I'm six foot four, so.
Speaker 1: Well that's yeah, I guess i'd be six foot four.
Speaker 1: Then I is she really fun with two?
Speaker 2: I think? I think so she's like five four max.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, Well, well we watched when the last episode
Speaker 1: came out, we watched it and there was some tears,
Speaker 1: and and then we watched it. There's a great documentary
Speaker 1: that I encourage anyone to watch, particularly if you're interested
Speaker 1: in house shows together about the final series of Shit's Creek,
Speaker 1: and it's so great, it's so heartwarming. I've met Eugene Levy.
Speaker 1: I have the pleasure of meeting him once. He is
Speaker 1: also one of the nicest guys ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so so nice and so kind and like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. And Chris Elliott like remembered my name.
Speaker 2: You know, when you meet someone and they like they're
Speaker 2: famous or something, and then you're like, oh, that's a
Speaker 2: nice interaction. And then you see them like an hour
Speaker 2: later and they're like, hey, I remember your name. You're like,
Speaker 2: holy god, I don't remember anybody's name nobody. I think
Speaker 2: that's why, because I'm not famous and no one cares
Speaker 2: who I am.
Speaker 1: Well, that's all going to change after this podcast rolls out.
Speaker 1: I can tell you this the one thing I love
Speaker 1: about Eugene Levy. Obviously we love him for so many
Speaker 1: roles over the years, but as a kid, National Lampoon's
Speaker 1: Vacation was such a big movie in our house and
Speaker 1: to see but before we even knew who he was.
Speaker 1: Even called years later with the Guffman, you know, and
Speaker 1: the Christopher best movies. Well, he was always the guy
Speaker 1: who sold Chevy Chase the family truckster to us, you know,
Speaker 1: and so then the kind of years later gond of
Speaker 1: go oh, that's the guys, and then they're going to
Speaker 1: go to stop calling him the guy who sold in
Speaker 1: the family trucks.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Eugene Levy is amazing. So I just wanted to not
Speaker 1: only say do you great work on Ship's Creek, but
Speaker 1: just to our listeners, it is just one of the
Speaker 1: most brilliant shows a week, combination as well of edgy
Speaker 1: writing but heartwarming. Oh yeah, that combination you rarely see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the kind of a Canadian thing that's happening lately.
Speaker 2: Is that Canadian TV for a while is kind of
Speaker 2: bad for a number of years and.
Speaker 1: Now pointed down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after the Grassy winded down until Next Generation. I
Speaker 2: mean it was a it was a boneyard over here.
Speaker 2: I mean we had no snake, we had no Drake.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. But no, the shows that are being
Speaker 2: made now, Like I used to live in la because
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, nothing can get made in Canada,
Speaker 2: and then like I moved back and so many good
Speaker 2: things are being made in Canada. Right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: what's an Australian TV show that I should check out?
Speaker 1: We should check out my show called How to Stay Married?
Speaker 2: I was married. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Well, the weird thing. The weird thing about my show, Adam,
Speaker 1: is that we it's on a commercial network and it's
Speaker 1: one of the very few sitcoms that have actually even
Speaker 1: been on commercial commission network for years, and we're developing
Speaker 1: our third series. Now when that goes away, it'll be
Speaker 1: like the first third series of a scripted sitcom that
Speaker 1: has been on a commercial network for probably thirty years.
Speaker 2: Huh, So you're like the days of our lives of Australia.
Speaker 2: They're breaking longevity records all over the place.
Speaker 1: Well, we haven't been on for that long, I said,
Speaker 1: it's only a third season. But if we it's just
Speaker 1: weird that for some reason, on our on our national
Speaker 1: broadcast where there are no commercials, there have been a
Speaker 1: whole heap of great comedies and I can recommend one
Speaker 1: called rose Haven, which is which is fantastic. But our
Speaker 1: show is you know, it's it's a kind of a
Speaker 1: marital family kind of sitcom. But the other weird thing
Speaker 1: is Australian comedy hasn't really done a sitcom about marriage, Like,
Speaker 1: it's so bizarre. The successful sitcoms we've had have been
Speaker 1: all about broken families, where there's usually a male a
Speaker 1: male widow, you know, so that yeah, maybe they just
Speaker 1: didn't know how to write a female character or I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, but it's this kind of weird thing. But
Speaker 1: outside of my show, I'll say rose Haven is highly
Speaker 1: recommended with Luke McGregor and Silly Pacol are great comedians
Speaker 1: and about two mates who end up running their mother's
Speaker 1: real state agent in Tasmania. It's a lovely, sleepy, little
Speaker 1: kind of town and it's in its fourth season, which
Speaker 1: is you know, we don't have shows that run for
Speaker 1: eight years down here. We just if you get to
Speaker 1: if you get a second season, you've done well.
Speaker 2: Is that on the National Broadcaster? Rose Haven?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this because I mean, I
Speaker 2: feel like America's as far as media goes, there's so
Speaker 2: much focus on America. But I've always been curious in Australia,
Speaker 2: do conservatives and conservative people always want to defund the
Speaker 2: National Broadcaster of Australia.
Speaker 1: That is amazing that you asked that, because that is
Speaker 1: exactly what happens. And the last five or six years
Speaker 1: have been really rough on it's the ABC, the eustrain
Speaker 1: Broadcasting Corporation, and they've tried to defund well, they have
Speaker 1: defunded them largely from not only the television but the
Speaker 1: radio aspect as well. And the radio is in particularly
Speaker 1: important because that goes out to regional areas. You know,
Speaker 1: we had to you know, we remembered how important the
Speaker 1: radio was for regional areas when we had the Bushfries
Speaker 1: you know, over over summer, you know, and these it's getting,
Speaker 1: you know, defunded. It's incredible and it seems like it's
Speaker 1: it's not it's not exclusive to Australia.
Speaker 2: God no, no, I mean it's always a thing like
Speaker 2: if you do something on the CBC. Whenever I'm on
Speaker 2: the internet, like one of my clips goes up, there's
Speaker 2: just like straight up people who comment on every CBC
Speaker 2: clip that are like defund the CBC. Or it's like
Speaker 2: anything that you do on the National broadcaster, if you're
Speaker 2: trying to do something, people be like my tax dollars
Speaker 2: is going to this bad comedy. It's like it's unescapable.
Speaker 1: Well, because what conservative governments don't seem to understand. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this is just an Australian Australian thing,
Speaker 1: but I imagine that happens in Canada as well. Whoever's
Speaker 1: in power. That's where the comedies directed at. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like you you take the piss out of the people
Speaker 1: who are in power, there's no there's not a whole
Speaker 1: lot of fun, you know, taking the piss out of
Speaker 1: the opposition. I'm not saying as a as an exclusive rule,
Speaker 1: but the fun and the edginess is going to be,
Speaker 1: you know, having a go at the people in power,
Speaker 1: but they seem to be so thin skinned where you know,
Speaker 1: if I was a conservative leader, I would just try
Speaker 1: to roll with the punches a little bit more, roll,
Speaker 1: a little bit closer to the middle. And I think that,
Speaker 1: to be honest, that's what our prime minister is doing
Speaker 1: at the moment where I think he's kind of worked
Speaker 1: it out through this coronavirus going if I if I
Speaker 1: can get a little bit closer to the middle and
Speaker 1: not drift out to the far right like some of
Speaker 1: my colleagues want me to, I actually may be a
Speaker 1: long serving prime minister. And he had a horrible summer
Speaker 1: with our bushfires because he's basically a climate change denier.
Speaker 1: And yes, and then he has he's had a better
Speaker 1: winter and spring, sorry autumn because of the coronavirus. But
Speaker 1: that's really because when you're a politician and the leader
Speaker 1: of a country in this scenario, you're basically just listening
Speaker 1: to medical advice and you listen to experts and you're
Speaker 1: just taking that expert advice and implementing what needs to
Speaker 1: be done as opposed to, you know, a bushfire. Where
Speaker 1: you are you know, philosophically opposed to what's causing the bushfire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because we have I mean, we have
Speaker 2: a liberal federal government. But the problem that I live
Speaker 2: in as a conservative government, and I'm sure like through coronavirus.
Speaker 2: Medical experts just come up to you every day and
Speaker 2: they show you a chart and they say this is
Speaker 2: what this is how many people die if you don't
Speaker 2: do this, and this is how many people die if
Speaker 2: you do do this, And they're like, okay, well let's
Speaker 2: do it. And then the public is like, yes, they
Speaker 2: get it. They're great. It's like, what how sad is
Speaker 2: it that we're at the point where like if a
Speaker 2: politician doesn't lead to so many deaths. They're a good
Speaker 2: politician now that we should like celebrate, Like the fact
Speaker 2: that you're saying like that the prime minister had a
Speaker 2: good couple months. It's like unreal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he could not have had a worse summer
Speaker 1: like he was. If the you know, if the election
Speaker 1: was the following week or even looking ahead without a pandemic,
Speaker 1: people would still have the you know, based on the summer,
Speaker 1: I would still have a cross on the election in
Speaker 1: two years time, thinking okay, that's when we get the
Speaker 1: voting map. That's how bad his summer was. Like he literally,
Speaker 1: as the country was burning, took a holiday to Hawaii.
Speaker 1: You know, he literally left the country and he was
Speaker 1: eventually when he came back, he was going round to
Speaker 1: these small towns and Australians you know, in small towns
Speaker 1: were just refusing to shake his hands, telling him the
Speaker 1: fuck off and literally like it was, you know, and
Speaker 1: getting mad. And if they got mad at him, if
Speaker 1: they kind of started There's actually one woman who was
Speaker 1: kind of like crying, the saying you need to help us,
Speaker 1: you need to do something, and he just literally walked
Speaker 1: turned his back and walked away. Like after this, after
Speaker 1: having people not shake his hand and refuse to shake
Speaker 1: his hand on camera, and it was all very awkward.
Speaker 1: There's a woman who all she was saying was this,
Speaker 1: you need to help us, We need your help. And
Speaker 1: he just nodded his head and kind of late turned
Speaker 1: his back and walked away.
Speaker 2: Go awaii. Maybe what's the name was the Prime minister's name?
Speaker 1: Scott Morrison?
Speaker 2: Scott Morrison, love them, support him, die formed frankly.
Speaker 1: I get an impression a lot of us will sadly, mate,
Speaker 1: it's been so good to hang out more tonight than
Speaker 1: we ever have before. I think as best friends. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not enough that we only see each
Speaker 1: other once every two years.
Speaker 2: I know. Uh. Let me echo what everyone said in
Speaker 2: March when coronavirus started happening and started going on zoom calls.
Speaker 2: Let's do this every week.
Speaker 1: Let's let's do it zoom or house party.
Speaker 2: What works for you, We'll do zoom. Maybe we'll mix
Speaker 2: it up the house party, but let's do it every week.
Speaker 2: That's that's coronavirus catchphrase.
Speaker 1: I've got you locked in next week for Wall Street
Speaker 1: to Money Never Sleeps. That'll be the.
Speaker 2: Live episode when you come to JFL forty two went on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I must say I saw my Montreal
Speaker 1: spot went to air here in Australia a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I looked at it and I thought, wow, that
Speaker 1: seems like a long time ago. It seems like a
Speaker 1: different world we.
Speaker 2: Did just aired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it aired only about maybe a month ago.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And which was I felt like it was a
Speaker 1: long time to wait, And I think, I don't know what,
Speaker 1: I don't know why it was so late, but that
Speaker 1: all those JFL spots had just rolled out here, yeah,
Speaker 1: in the last month or so.
Speaker 2: Don't you love it when your comedy plays a year
Speaker 2: after you record it and you look at it and
Speaker 2: you're like, huh, those jokes weren't done well?
Speaker 1: Because I did. I did a routine about it being
Speaker 1: the fiftieth anniversary of the moon landing, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily that was a way to get into it. The
Speaker 1: rest of it. It kind of goes on from there,
Speaker 1: but you know, it had a nice, a nice vibe
Speaker 1: to it, the fact that it was the year that
Speaker 1: you know that it was the actual fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 2: Listen, if anyone calls you on that though the biggest
Speaker 2: nerd in the world.
Speaker 1: Mate, thank you so much for joining us on. You
Speaker 1: know you ain't seen nothing yet and you know here's
Speaker 1: here's to next week. Money never sleeps, book it in.
Speaker 2: It's all about bucks Kid the rest.
Speaker 1: Of this conversation. I really love that chat. Adam Christie,
Speaker 1: my best Canadian mate. We, like I said, we became
Speaker 1: fast friends. I love the point he made about every
Speaker 1: comics favorite TV series should be The Simpsons or it
Speaker 1: is the Simpsons, and also the Star Wars Zebra's favorite film.
Speaker 1: I know it's not, but I felt a bit embarrassed
Speaker 1: because I am a huge Star Wars fans. I've publicly
Speaker 1: announced my love of Star Wars at every opportunity, and
Speaker 1: yet I don't kind of put it in my top
Speaker 1: three films. My top three films of Godfather Part two
Speaker 1: and one, I kind of going to Canadas one film,
Speaker 1: even though it's not Sideways and Plans, trains and Automobiles.
Speaker 1: They're my three favorites, three and a half favorites, four
Speaker 1: favorites out of three. I'm putting Star Wars in there,
Speaker 1: and then buy they're in there. They're in there. So
Speaker 1: my three favorite films, Godfather, Part two, god Father Part one,
Speaker 1: Star Wars and Bi Strikes Back, Sideways and Plans, trains
Speaker 1: and autobiles. The mats don't add up. They don't need to.
Speaker 1: I want to thank Derek Meyers, my podcast manager at
Speaker 1: Castawaystudios dot com dot Au. I should mention, as I
Speaker 1: did at the start, that this episode was recorded during lockdown.
Speaker 1: I actually recorded this a while ago in and hanging on
Speaker 1: to this one, so the audio wasn't as good as
Speaker 1: what you're hearing right now. That what you're hearing now
Speaker 1: are the clear, pristine conditions at Castaways Studios dot com.
Speaker 1: The audio quality is Thank you to Derek my It's
Speaker 1: good to be back in Castaways Studios. Get on board.
Speaker 1: If you're setting up a podcast, Derek is the man
Speaker 1: to help you out. Next week on the show, I
Speaker 1: am so excited. One of the well, the biggest musical
Speaker 1: of all time is Grease. Let's just put it out
Speaker 1: there and I'm talking next week to one of Australia's
Speaker 1: best satirists who is a big musical fan. He claims,
Speaker 1: yet he has not seen the movie Grease. How can
Speaker 1: this be possible? Mark Humphreys from seven point thirty and
Speaker 1: the feed does brilliant work online, he will be joining
Speaker 1: us to chat about the John Travolda and Olivia Newton
Speaker 1: John Classic. I have seen Greece so many times. I
Speaker 1: think the only movie I've seen more than Greece is
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I am so keen to know what he
Speaker 1: made of it, of the tea birds and the pink
Speaker 1: ladies and the gang at Rydal. Until then, take care
Speaker 1: of yourselves and we'll see soon.
Speaker 2: H and so we leave Old Pete safe and soult,
Speaker 2: and to our friends of the radio audience, we'd been
Speaker 2: a pleasant good night