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Speaker 1: I know how much food have you eaten this this

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Speaker 2: Not as not as much as you And that's that

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Speaker 3: Can you come down and just give me one of

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Speaker 2: But you just have to be eating a lot. I

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Speaker 3: They're good enough to eat, that's all I'm saying. I'll

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Speaker 2: Where's this from? Ferguson player? So if it makes you

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Speaker 2: feel any better, the owner of this will found or

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Speaker 2: whatever drives rolls. Royce Phantom really so by you stuffing

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Speaker 2: your face with those sweet treats helping fund his extravagant lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: Ferg I love how you're eating it with the fucking

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Speaker 2: the rapper still on it. That's disgusting. It's like an

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Speaker 2: aluminum foil wrapper. It's good disgust.

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Speaker 1: There go, Lack your buduciary, bro, you're having the rolls rise.

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Speaker 2: Good now you're right now right Christopher's case, Jesus, all right,

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Speaker 2: here we go. No, no, no, that was that's part

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Speaker 2: of it. You're on.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, we have a tradition every year around this

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Speaker 3: time around Christmas time where I buy We have this

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Speaker 3: tradition every year where I buy you something and.

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Speaker 1: You get me fuck all. So I thought I would

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Speaker 1: carry that on.

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Speaker 2: Go on, where's my present?

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Speaker 1: I've got you a real present. There's a big thing.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm actually genuinely excited for this.

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Speaker 2: There's another lawsuit?

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Speaker 1: No no, no, hang.

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Speaker 2: On, stay there, stay there. Unfortunately he's rifling through his

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Speaker 2: bag at the moment, but not his middle finger. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not looking a big deal, not looking.

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Speaker 1: Don't you love it? It's a B y D.

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Speaker 2: I wonder where this is made?

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Speaker 1: Sri Lanka.

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Speaker 2: It was made in Sri Lanka and not China. But

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Speaker 2: it's made one size fits most. What if you have

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Speaker 2: an enormous brain, Well you.

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Speaker 1: Have a big head, and that's about it.

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Speaker 2: Put it on, Put it on, put it on? No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: take your headphones off, no no, put it on. It

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Speaker 1: No no, no, generally because it's a dad heart. There

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Speaker 2: Hang on, I'll get the driver's show in the background. Beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Am I to send that to my good friends at

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Speaker 1: B y D?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Anyway, Merry Christmas is a good friend slash sponsors.

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Speaker 3: Then they're really don't. I wish they were anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, likewise, Mary xmis do you celebrate Christmas?

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Speaker 3: Everyone else is doing like a family sort of situation.

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Speaker 3: Paul's family just goes to the casino.

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Speaker 1: It's the only place that's open.

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Speaker 2: The kids in the car and let's go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go have a seafood feast.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the Driver's Show, formerly known as Another Show,

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Speaker 2: Another show, but that's cool following legal action. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're going a big show today. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: is electric. So I'm really looking forward to that. And

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Speaker 2: thank you also for your emails. It was it was

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Speaker 2: very encouraging to see so much support for us over

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Speaker 3: It was a very professional intro by you, Paul. Yeah, god,

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Speaker 2: You're in danger of losing your job. I could probably

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Speaker 1: Look, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would love to hear pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's hear you do. I think you've done Smooth

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Speaker 3: FM before. Let's hear you do Top forty Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's one twenty pm, folks, and it's time

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Speaker 1: Some Taylor Swift with It's a song. It's a song called.

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Speaker 2: What's a Dance with It? Or whatever? It's called doing dance?

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Speaker 3: What is it that shake it off?

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Speaker 1: I don't know so many that one on what radio?

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Speaker 2: Do? The call sign on The Driver's Show with Him,

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Speaker 1: Everything's Normal in your World? What have you have you

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Speaker 2: It's actually like, it does look nice now. It looks

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you guys should not have done that.

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Speaker 3: You should have just blacked it out because the black

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Speaker 1: But it's like, that's that. That was a car that

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Speaker 2: I was like, ah, well, actually that is surprising, but

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Speaker 2: No, but they've got if you come into the car

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was quite surprising.

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Speaker 3: It just doesn't like to me, I was expecting more

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't look face enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks okay, it looks fine, but I'm like,

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Speaker 3: mister Gordy's Hey, I've noticed there's a nice.

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Speaker 1: Little Scottish car out there. They've built a brick.

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Speaker 2: They've built a brick, an electric brick.

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Speaker 3: It looks like the cross between Elon's cyber truck and

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Speaker 1: It just looks like a school project.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's out of Monroe, that's the company, and

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Speaker 1: Just like, Jesus, what is going on?

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Speaker 3: It honestly looks like it looks like the project someone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of does look like that. And I

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting. So it's a really just fascinating vehicle

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Speaker 2: we'll see about that one thousand kilos payload, thirty five

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Speaker 2: So they're saying that it uses electric motors that aren't

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Speaker 2: up to twenty thousand rpm. So that means that those

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Speaker 2: speeds with greater efficiency. Yeah. Wow, two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that i'd want to be doing

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Speaker 3: I mean they've got a good testing ground Scotland is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty two kilowatts three phase A C charging, which

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and it's very basic inside. It doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Sort of a fairly new company. Monroe too. Twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: I'm having Look here it says here Monroe claims it

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Speaker 2: scale in Scotland since Pergio Talbot closed It's Lindwood plant

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one. So there you go. They're bringing Scotland

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Speaker 1: Fun were they ever on the map?

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Speaker 2: Well in nineteen eighty one. Yeah, So I think it's cool.

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Speaker 2: I'll be keen to see what this is like, and

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Speaker 2: I hope it eventually comes to Australia. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I will sit on that and just kind of put

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Speaker 3: Bronco to come to Australia, and that probably won't be happening. No,

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Speaker 2: Hand drive conversions for that in Australia as well, so

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Speaker 2: they have prototypes ready and everything is sort of coming

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Speaker 2: along nicely. So that will go on sales. Right hand

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Speaker 2: drive vehicle, that's what you should get.

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Speaker 1: You should get that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's only just the normal one. They're not

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Speaker 2: bringing the Raptor or anything like that just yet.

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Speaker 1: There is a there is an F one fifty Raptor though, right.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, but just not for right hand drive just yet.

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Speaker 2: And they've just done a Raptor R, which is a

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Speaker 3: You know what I've seen on the road a lot rams,

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot. I'm talking about the car I've

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Speaker 1: I was driving out.

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Speaker 3: Territory and Jesus keep away from his bloody sheep.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, no, I've seen a lot of Rams

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Speaker 3: It's so funny because there's a lot of body kits

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Speaker 3: So here's my thing. Though Australian roads are different from

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Speaker 2: Well you say that, but I didn't have any issues

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Speaker 3: I just think it's probably a little bit tougher to

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Speaker 3: Which you don't do you just had the maid to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it is. It is fascinating times. And I

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Speaker 1: In one of these, actually absolutely, I can see you

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Speaker 3: Bloody kicking back American style, eating a bloody hot dog

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Speaker 2: You and Trevor.

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Speaker 3: You guys would be sharing like the same foot Long,

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Speaker 3: it'd be like lady in the trap, just like sucking

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Speaker 2: Dog that double dog a little bit of double dogging.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so it's really cool. So they Ram Trucks

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Speaker 3: So you know who I haven't heard from him in

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Speaker 3: And I saw him on Twitter the other day. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: We should get him on at some point, what do

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Speaker 2: I know we were like, we're not disgrace yourself.

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Speaker 1: I know we're already like that.

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Speaker 3: The last sort of legal issues have just settled down

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Speaker 1: We should do a check in. Should I call him up?

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Speaker 2: I've got his number, you don't I don't think he'll

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Speaker 2: answer you don't reckon, No, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try it. Oh, this would be amazing if

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Speaker 3: he answers. I'm gonna make sure it's on a private number, though.

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Speaker 1: Should I talk? Should you talk?

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Speaker 4: Ring?

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Speaker 1: Ring?

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Speaker 2: Ring? I'll talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Hello, God, even the way he answers the phones annoying.

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Speaker 3: Hello, is that Trevor long Steak. It's Gordy and Paul

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Speaker 3: here from the Driver's Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Who else would be calling me on this day?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Who else would be calling you in general?

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, I've.

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Speaker 4: Got a long list of quaints to Sinka rama.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, so, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it's great to be here, isnt Trevor?

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Speaker 4: About fifteen exactly?

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Speaker 2: I'll make it known to you that Gordy has just

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Speaker 2: gifted me a BYD hat and I'm convinced that he's

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Speaker 1: I'm really not well.

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Speaker 4: Else would what else would he be so angry about

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Speaker 4: me just getting the driver's vehicle? I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, Trevor, coming down with your little

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Speaker 3: flex of knowledge there, Hang on, we should do a

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Speaker 3: bit of backstorry for those who don't know. Basically, a

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Speaker 3: long time ago, I was given the Australian first. I

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Speaker 1: Exclusive to drive the by d at oh three.

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Speaker 2: Now how it went?

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Speaker 3: Was our good compadre Trevor Long. He was showing it

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Speaker 3: off on his little program on.

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Speaker 1: The what is it called the Today Show or something?

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Speaker 2: The Today Show with Today? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, they don't even have a blood do they even

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Speaker 3: have two hosts at the moment. They don't even know

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Speaker 4: Carl steff and over against Sarah Arbor. It's going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who is it?

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Speaker 2: Cart?

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Speaker 4: From January sixteenth?

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Speaker 2: Carlos and who?

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Speaker 4: That's what we need to remember.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jesus, did you just sniff?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 1: Have you got a plate of bloody cocaine in front

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Speaker 1: of you? What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I've been quite sick all week, but I've got out

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Speaker 4: of my sick there to speak to you.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's kliness all right.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, A stupid backstory, A no.

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Speaker 3: No, So then I was I was promised this, and

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Speaker 3: then you did your little show off on the Today

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Speaker 3: Show and then handed me the keys, and I was like, okay, cool.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, you weren't driving, and you weren't

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Speaker 3: just supposed to showcase it on there next to whatever

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Speaker 3: your segment was. Things to have in fucking twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: You should have this fridge, this vacuum, this car. I'm

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Speaker 3: Trevor long Sea later, right, That's all you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 3: And then you handed the keys to me, and I

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Speaker 3: was supposed to have the first drive, drop out driving impressions,

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Speaker 3: all that sort of thing, and then within twenty four

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Speaker 4: It went well too, Jesus. It was a good video.

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Speaker 4: Numbers shot up Marreck nos this. You know you have

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Speaker 4: a good burst of early numbers. It was great. The

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Speaker 4: problem with your funal little story is I don't know

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Speaker 4: what you're talking about. No one knows what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: You've made this story up on your own, haven't made

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Speaker 4: I I've been I've been working alongside Luke and the

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Speaker 1: Dropping the CEO. Look at you dropping CEOs. Now, I've

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Speaker 1: been working alongside with Luke. What have you been doing

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Speaker 1: playing golf and eating hot dogs?

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Speaker 4: Playing the game? Mate, It's what we do. What we're

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Speaker 4: doing this game exactly, the networking game exactly. I want

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Speaker 4: assured you of something. And then here's what they shouldn't

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Speaker 4: have done. Here is the first tip you should have

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Speaker 4: had that that wasn't going to happen was when they said,

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Speaker 4: can you come pick up the car? You're picking it

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Speaker 4: up from another journey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're playing in the first indicator.

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Speaker 3: I'm We're gonn't fade this clown down Jesus for someone

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Speaker 3: who's apparently had COVID or whatever it had, cheesy talks

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Speaker 1: Here's the situation. The thing that you just said there

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Speaker 1: is the game. And that's exactly why.

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Speaker 3: We started this thing, because all these journeys in the

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Speaker 3: fucking pockets of these car companies there, Bloody b one e.

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about someone who's in cahoots, mate,

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Speaker 3: you just said it yourself. You've been working with these

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Speaker 2: Anyway. Well, I am convinced that you are in the

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Speaker 2: pocket cording because I don't know where this hat comes from.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a hat. Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Do you know where I found that?

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Speaker 4: Maybe they gave me my hat because he didn't get

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Speaker 2: Although you didn't get the first rof, but he got

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Speaker 3: No, I'm actually genuinely concerned about Trevor. I can hear

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Speaker 3: his breathing, and I think you need to sit down.

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Speaker 3: I think something could happen.

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Speaker 2: What do you what do you like? You relaxed?

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Speaker 1: Oh God, Jesus, do you know what I love about

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Speaker 1: this show? Right?

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Speaker 2: Is it not?

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Speaker 1: You so just hide down to its?

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Speaker 3: I just love that you'd never get this unlike what's

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Speaker 3: under the bonnet, Like you never get like just a

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Speaker 3: couple of guys talking about Trevor and hot dogs. And

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Speaker 3: you know that's the thing about the car industry, right,

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Speaker 3: it suffers a lot from representation of females and like

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Speaker 3: black representation and LGBQ, but not anymore thanks to our guest,

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Speaker 3: Trevor Long, I represent.

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Speaker 4: The fad community. Yeah, wait things out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's where me and trev unite.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we we're from that community and Paul.

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Speaker 4: Had a stint but into shape exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, I have a genuine question forever are you

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Speaker 2: going to see Yes?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know it's the biggest event of the year

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Speaker 4: for me. January one, we leave. I take a team

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Speaker 4: of four because it's epic. It's the biggest show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So can I just poise you there?

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Speaker 2: So I have a question for it?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 3: I just want to for those who aren't engineers or

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Speaker 3: whatever the hell you guys do, can you just explain

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Speaker 3: what that is?

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Speaker 2: What that expo is.

447
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Speaker 4: You go to. This is the consumer electronics show. It's

448
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Speaker 4: been running for I think fifty five years. It used

449
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Speaker 4: to be where companies would announce something like a brand

450
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Speaker 4: new product, and then it's where retailers, liking in our

451
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Speaker 4: old Harving on the JB hih I go and they

452
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Speaker 4: do all the deals to actually get the rucks that

453
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Speaker 4: they're going to bring into Australia during the year. A

454
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Speaker 4: little bit less like that now it's a little bit

455
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Speaker 4: more just you know, show off the showcasing, but there's

456
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Speaker 4: still deals done by the retailers to bring products and

457
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Speaker 4: there's a bunch of car companies that go there as well.

458
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Speaker 4: They don't launch cars, but they do spruit their technology.

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Speaker 4: You know, they'll talk about their autonomy or their battery

460
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Speaker 4: parerent stuff. So there'd be a bunch of cars there

461
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Speaker 4: as well. It's pretty big car show at the same time.

462
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Speaker 3: Do you get a bit of a taste of what

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Speaker 3: to expect? Do you know what you get kind of

464
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Speaker 3: get to see, like is there anything you're looking forward to, like,

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Speaker 3: oh the new I don't know. Well.

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Speaker 4: Last year, as in twenty twenty two's event, it was

467
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Speaker 4: this weird because of the first time back since COVID.

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Speaker 4: The show floor map had all these big car companies there,

469
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Speaker 4: but they didn't turn up because they shouted themselves at

470
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Speaker 4: the last minute and went, oh it's COVID drama. And

471
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Speaker 4: so I think there's going to be a lot of

472
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Speaker 4: the stuff we expected last year turn up this year,

473
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Speaker 4: like concept cars from Mercedes. They've got an equxx Paul,

474
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Speaker 4: you know, they've got a bunch of concepts out there.

475
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Speaker 4: BMW last year had this color changing car, the paint

476
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Speaker 4: change colors like eating I'll do something fun again. I

477
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Speaker 4: don't know, to be honest, what to expect that that's

478
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Speaker 4: the front of it.

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Speaker 2: Well, can we maybe while you're over there or when

480
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Speaker 2: you get back, get you to fill us in on

481
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Speaker 2: all the car stuff that's gone on there?

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Speaker 4: Yah? Bloody oh something. I love it, this weird, weird

483
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Speaker 4: thing where it's the only time of the year where

484
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Speaker 4: I'm happy to talk about things that aren't real, if

485
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like I don't like talking

486
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Speaker 4: about phones that are only released in China or you know,

487
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Speaker 4: phones that only sell in Europe because it doesn't matter

488
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Speaker 4: to Australians, whereas this is the one time of the

489
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Speaker 4: year it's kind of that beyond two thousand. Look, you

490
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Speaker 4: know this is just cool Staff. It might not be

491
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Speaker 4: on sale this year, it might be on SEF for

492
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Speaker 4: teen years, but just to know that a company can

493
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Speaker 4: achieve a certain thing, whether it's a level of autonomy

494
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Speaker 4: or arrange in kilometers on an electric car, I think

495
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Speaker 4: it will make a difference in the long term. So yeah,

496
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Speaker 4: it'd be great.

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Speaker 3: I love how you just compared that to be on

498
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Speaker 3: two thousand. I've always said you're the Amanda Keala of now.

499
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Speaker 4: I think Amanda would be deeply offended by that, So

500
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Speaker 4: I'm glad you don't listen to this show.

501
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Speaker 1: Does actually she really does. She told me she's coming

502
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Speaker 1: on the show next week.

503
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Speaker 4: I saw the other day and I said, I'm going

504
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Speaker 4: on with Gordion Portuguess. What the hell are you talking about?

505
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Speaker 4: She actually had no idea who you were?

506
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Speaker 2: Are you kidding? I? Actually, again, you.

507
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Speaker 4: Are so so precious. I mean, if I didn't just

508
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Speaker 4: make that whole thing up, I.

509
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Speaker 1: Didn't make me listen to me.

510
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Speaker 3: You're on my show, all right, listen, you just shut

511
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Speaker 3: your little man?

512
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Speaker 4: Paul doing this show? Bad people. That's all I've heard.

513
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't bag anyone, just Paul.

514
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Speaker 4: How good is the coopra formentive vs?

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Speaker 3: Can I just say I've driven that too? That that

516
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Speaker 3: as well? You could have asked me as well. You

517
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Speaker 3: could have included me.

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Speaker 4: But I wanted to actually ask.

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is, actually haven't driven it? So how

520
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Speaker 2: good is it?

521
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Speaker 4: What you reckon of?

522
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Speaker 2: I think you actually liked it? Didn't you got it? Yeah?

523
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Speaker 2: I did. I did.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's it still feels a bit like underwhelming to me,

526
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Speaker 3: a bit like I mean, I.

527
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Speaker 4: Think the hybrid's great. I think it's it's a really

528
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Speaker 4: nice uh really nice kind of movement from the electric

529
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Speaker 4: to the to the petrol. I love it because I

530
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Speaker 4: love the look of it. I love the brand. My

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Speaker 4: first car was A say it so I'm a little

532
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Speaker 4: bit biased, but a good car, I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're priced well enough to make it

534
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Speaker 4: properly work in Australia. But that's another problem for another day.

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Speaker 3: I think no, I agree with that point, actually, but

536
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Speaker 3: I think everything generally is put together really well in

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Speaker 3: this The interior looks stylish.

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Speaker 2: I reckon that.

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Speaker 1: Did you have the matte paint.

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Speaker 4: On the Yeah? I didn't on the vz D, on

541
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Speaker 4: the original four Mento I drove. I've got the white

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Speaker 4: one of the Moment, which is a vs D. The

543
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Speaker 4: matte paint is a little bit much for me, but

544
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Speaker 4: I think it shows up every bloody speck of dirt

545
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Speaker 4: and water. Be horrible to keep in your driveway.

546
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Speaker 1: Trav's a conservative man.

547
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Speaker 2: Your conservative, well, you know I.

548
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Speaker 4: Think about I'm just such a big hater of things

549
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Speaker 4: that cost too much money. I think cars today cost

550
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Speaker 4: way too much money. I don't know why. I think

551
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Speaker 4: the market has not. I think the car company is

552
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Speaker 4: probably making more money out of every car than they

553
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Speaker 4: ever did before because cars just seemed so much more

554
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Speaker 4: expensive today, and.

555
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Speaker 3: People are like, what what gets me is people are

556
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Speaker 3: prepared to wait the crazy amount of wait times that

557
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Speaker 3: they are, do you know what I mean? And it's

558
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Speaker 3: getting worse, Like the whole the whole chip shortage thing

559
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Speaker 3: is just such a fast do you.

560
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Speaker 4: Guys reckon that's a real thing anymore? Because I obviously

561
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Speaker 4: twelve eighty months ago that was a genuine thing, there

562
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Speaker 4: was chip shortage and all that kind of stuff. But

563
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Speaker 4: I think the car company is now realize that they

564
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Speaker 4: can essentially manage the supply by just taking orders. Now.

565
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Speaker 4: I don't think they're ever going to get back to

566
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Speaker 4: a point where they just have swaths of stock sitting

567
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Speaker 4: on show room flaws anymore.

568
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because every two months Toyter puts out a press

569
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Speaker 2: release saying we're cutting production again because of semik and

570
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Speaker 2: but you still have a two year weight on a

571
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Speaker 2: four and dealers earn more margin. There's not cars sitting around.

572
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Speaker 2: It's actually a pretty Lucra.

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Speaker 4: There's no competition. You can't ring one dealer to another Kenya,

574
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Speaker 4: and you can't actually shop around anymore.

575
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Speaker 3: And I think what will happen is ringing dealerships will

576
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Speaker 3: probably narrow down anyway, It'll probably be done more on

577
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Speaker 3: a website.

578
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's.

579
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Speaker 4: What your temple started that, and Mercedes had started doing that,

580
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Speaker 4: bowl I was doing that. It's a good thing because

581
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Speaker 4: it means everyone's getting the same price, but it's a

582
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Speaker 4: bad thing because it means you're never negotiating on the

583
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Speaker 4: price of the car, and that means they can continually

584
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Speaker 4: just put a price up. It's like you know what

585
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Speaker 4: the bid example, they just go the price has changed

586
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Speaker 4: as of now, and there's no there's zero chance to

587
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Speaker 4: negotiate that because you don't have a dealer, there's no intermediary,

588
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Speaker 4: and so you are literally stuck with whatever the heck

589
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Speaker 4: sticker they put on the car.

590
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Speaker 1: What was your first car?

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Speaker 2: Did you say say it?

592
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Speaker 1: I'd be is that where you went on schoolies as well?

593
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Speaker 4: The Gold Coaster?

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Speaker 1: Of course, I can't imagine you at schoolies on the

595
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Speaker 1: Gold case.

596
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Speaker 2: Actually I was very boring.

597
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Speaker 4: I was pretty much designated driver, although I was actually

598
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Speaker 4: seeing some don't really matter.

599
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't to me, come across as a bit

600
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Speaker 1: of a where'd you go to schoolies? Lake's entrance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, well, Trevor.

602
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Speaker 3: Thank you for actually coming on the show that we're

603
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Speaker 3: not done with, Trevor, is this started?

604
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Speaker 2: Like?

605
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 4: What is this just a show? Is this what you do?

606
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: Just talk?

607
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 4: Yea?

608
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Speaker 1: So tell me about your podcast there, Trevor, what's that called?

609
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Speaker 4: Which one? I'm going to do about five a week?

610
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Speaker 4: THEFTM podcast, which is talkback technology podcast, tech question. I

611
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: can answer it like talk back radio and there the

612
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 4: two Bokes Talking tech podcast been running for twelve years

613
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: as of February, so that's like tech news every week.

614
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: Is the best movie You've never seen, which is me

615
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: watching movies since the very first time and seven rabbiting

616
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: on about how he's seen them a million times.

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Speaker 2: Pornos, Yeah, whatever you want, mate, They all sound shipp

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Speaker 2: by the way.

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Speaker 4: Well, can't be any worse than what I've just listened

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Speaker 4: to for last Sinday move.

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Speaker 2: No, look, hey, here's the thing.

622
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Speaker 4: Going to go on forever.

623
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna.

624
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Speaker 3: Calm down, mates, God, I'm worried about your health now.

625
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 3: I want to I want to bury the hatchet. I

626
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: want to genuinely say I didn't I don't have any apology.

627
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Speaker 1: Music queued up but Trev is.

628
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Speaker 3: Actually a genuinely brilliant tech reviewer. I watched his videos,

629
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Speaker 3: Believe it or not, I do watch videos. I watched

630
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Speaker 3: that expo you went to it in Berlin, and I

631
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: thought that was really cool.

632
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Speaker 1: You ate fake meat or something.

633
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Speaker 2: Something for meat?

634
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Speaker 3: Yeah, horrible, And I think what he does is really

635
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Speaker 3: good and it's entertaining.

636
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Speaker 4: Let me say this then, all right, let me say this. No,

637
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: I genuinely had no idea that someone else was promised

638
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: a first drive. I didn't ask for a first drive.

639
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: I just had the car and studio had twenty four

640
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Speaker 4: hours before to take it back. So I hooked up

641
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Speaker 4: a GoPro. What do you do? What do you do?

642
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: What do you do?

643
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm just a man with a GoPro in fact podcast.

644
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Speaker 2: Yes, well, now we're going to end it and we're

645
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: going to chat to you once you come back from

646
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Speaker 2: CS and we'll we'll have it talk about car stuff.

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Speaker 1: Good boys, Thank you, thanks, true thanks. Right before you

648
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Speaker 1: go before we go, just hag up the phone before

649
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Speaker 1: you go.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say one thing. I love you.

651
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Speaker 4: I love you too.

652
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Speaker 2: Yes see, I love him.

653
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 4: Here's the part love you.

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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: Subaru WRX and WRX sports Wagon. Prices start from forty thousand,

657
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Speaker 5: nine ninety dollars for the basic trim levels.

658
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Speaker 2: You do in two sixty two.

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Speaker 5: Thousand, four hundred and forty dollars for the top of

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Speaker 5: the range, Todam WRX s TI Final.

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Speaker 3: Edition, Suberu WRX, and the I want to put the

662
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Speaker 3: sports Wagon in this review too, because I'm going to

663
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Speaker 3: try both and they're both similar cars. One's just a

664
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Speaker 3: bit of a different shape to the other, and I

665
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Speaker 3: know there's a lot of interest in the sports Wagon

666
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Speaker 3: as well as the standard, So that's what we're doing

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Speaker 3: with this.

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Speaker 1: What are you do you think of these?

669
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Because we were talking about the new Subi before it

670
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: was released and before we got to see the car,

671
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: before we got to drive the car, I remember my

672
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: impressions being it just didn't look because cosmetically design wise,

673
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: it didn't.

674
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: Sort of look it just it didn't look that drastic.

675
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Speaker 3: And I know I'm hard to please with this sort

676
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Speaker 3: of stuff, but it just didn't look that drastic, And

677
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: you know, I thought the interior was and suber who

678
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: have kind of been always a little bit guilty with

679
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: this on the WRX. It just was never kind of

680
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: flashy or just seemed very basic. But now we've driven it,

681
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: has my opinion changed slightly.

682
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Speaker 2: Well, look, for me, it's it has two personalities. So

683
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: I drove a manual one and I quite enjoyed it

684
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: because it was a visceral experience. Everything was happening, I

685
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: was doing everything, but I was a bit underwhelmed with

686
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: how quick it was in the noise, it really sort

687
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: of made no sound and it wasn't that fast. Yes,

688
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: I then briefly drove the CVT and I thought it

689
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: was going to be terrible, but it wasn't as bad

690
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Speaker 2: as I thought it would be. But the downside with

691
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: the manual is it misses out on half the safety

692
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: tech that you get with the CVT, and at the

693
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: price that they're asking for this it kicks off what

694
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: does it kicks off from? Around forty five grand for

695
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: the entry level manual, there's a lot of money to

696
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: be missing out on basic safety tech that you can

697
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: get on virtually every car today. But for me, I

698
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: like the interior tech. I just didn't like the materials.

699
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: They are a bit sort of scratchy in parts, but

700
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Speaker 2: I thought the tech was pretty cool, and I like

701
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: the design as well. I know that's probably a little controversial,

702
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: but I think it looks cool.

703
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I don't mind it. Now that I've got

704
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: to see it in the flesh, I don't mind it.

705
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: I was saying to you before we aired this. The

706
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: design has now just kind of settled in. You know

707
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: when something like shock value or interesting aspects of a

708
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: car sit for a while and then they soften. To me, Yeah,

709
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 3: the cars softened even further, so I think it's very

710
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: much a normal fixture design wise.

711
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: Could they have done a bit more perhaps.

712
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: I still don't think it's the best looking WRX. Yeah,

713
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: it's not the best looking WRX that they've put out.

714
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: It's not the bug Eye. It's not as shit as

715
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: the bug Guy looking one. You know, that car was

716
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: so ugly it's almost become some people like it. Yeah,

717
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: I know they do, no, but it's it's now become

718
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: almost a cult classic because it's so out.

719
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: From everything else that they've done.

720
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: Anyway, But yeah, look the interior again, it was it

721
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: still feels a little bit. Plain definitely enjoyed this car,

722
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: like you're right with It's slowish, I think by today's standards,

723
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: it feels it's they've.

724
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: Gone from a two letter to two point four. Power

725
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: is up five kilotz. The talk is the same at

726
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: three p fifty. Yeah, it's like, how exactly that was

727
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: not even possible?

728
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.

729
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: Those numbers in twenty twenty two to twenty three, they

730
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: don't really stack up as much as they used to

731
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: with Subaru WRX. You know, I know that they are taking.

732
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: A very much approach. I believe from what I've heard

733
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: very much.

734
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: Numbers on paper don't sell cars, which I kind of get,

735
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: but it.

736
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: Also makes it hard for people to test drive if

737
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: they see the numbers.

738
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: That's true, What's what's going to get them over the line.

739
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: It's it can be a numbers game. I mean as well.

740
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: I think for me, why I enjoyed this was a nostalgia.

741
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: It was it brought back the Subaru is such a

742
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: brilliant car. It's such a great driver's car. I didn't

743
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: get to drive the manual as much as you did.

744
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: I spent maybe an hour with that, to be honest,

745
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: and I had the.

746
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: DCT for like a week with the sports Wagon CVT

747
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: whatever fuck put it, I say, DCTCD.

748
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: Look, I think The tech in it is good, but

749
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: I think it's where it needs to be. I think

750
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: it's sitting kind of where it needs to be twenty

751
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two.

752
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: But big screen was that? Was that wireless Apple car play?

753
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

754
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.

755
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: Wasn't it massive tick for me with that sort of

756
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: stuff has its own It has a few in built

757
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: apps as well, I think too a few er. They've

758
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: got an STI logo on.

759
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: The wheel where why why?

760
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 3: And they're from like official word from Subaru was oh

761
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 3: for nosulgic reasons.

762
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well there's not going to be an STI. No,

763
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: they're saying that the SI will be electric and later on.

764
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: So it just feels weird to me. Maybe it's like

765
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: how BMW does m Badgers. Sure, maybe tuned by a STI.

766
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: It's not like you're.

767
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: Getting like an STI package though, No, do you know

768
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like not with like an interior fit

769
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: at or anything like that. Yeah, exhaust or body kit

770
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: or anything. But I still think this has got life

771
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: in it.

772
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

773
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: I think it's definitely a great car if you're considering it,

774
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: it's damn it's a great car to get. It is

775
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: what it always has been it's a great driver's car.

776
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: Does it stack up with their faster cars out on

777
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: the road for a similar price point?

778
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Arguably? I completely agree, And I think this will have

779
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: a certain type of buyer. It's the type of buyer

780
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: that's always wanted one of these and always had one of.

781
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: These, and they just want one with new attack.

782
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. The fact that you can't get the

783
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: wagon in a manual, I just don't know why that's

784
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: not a thing, But yeah, I think that. Yeah, I

785
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: think that people will enjoy it. I think once you

786
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: modify it, that's probably where you'll start getting proper enjoyment.

787
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: So sticking in isourced on it, bigger turbo, that kind

788
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: of thing, I think that's probably where it'll be. But

789
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: I haven't really seen many modified ones, so it's like

790
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: people are just keeping them fairly stock and not really

791
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: doing a great deal to them. That's the thing it is.

792
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 2: I can hear from your voice. I'm in the same boat.

793
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: It's like, it's fine, yeah, I'm under look in all

794
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 3: understand I'm underwhelmed. I think what they need to do.

795
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 3: Super were doing this thing where they're just I feel

796
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: like they keep on keeping on.

797
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: And it's like Toyota. They just continuously just deliver just

798
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: what you kind of expect. There's nothing surprising there.

799
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's solid. There's always going to be something good,

800
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 3: but it's never Yeah. I just it's not the evolution

801
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: I wanted. I kind of feel like, imagine if they

802
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: rested this car for ten years unheard of, and then

803
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: they just relaunched it and it was a complete beast

804
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: of a car as it once was.

805
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: Is the rally scene as big as it was in

806
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: the mid nineties, No.

807
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: But it's still pretty decent.

808
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

809
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: I just think this is an iconic car.

810
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: Everyone's got their favorite model, everyone's got their favorite year.

811
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: The Subaru fan club is strong, and they deserved something a.

812
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: Little bit better.

813
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: Yep. Agreed, as always.

814
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: Contacted The Drivers Show dot com dot au on Instagram

815
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: to the Driver's Show.

816
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: What do we called the Drivers.

817
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: The Drivers Show dot com dot au is where you

818
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: can find us on Instagram.

819
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: That'd be great they listen to this.

820
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: Now send us a DM.

821
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, slide into our DMS.

822
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: Slide into our DMS and I will get Paul to

823
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: send you a photo of his Willie, which is very underwhelming. Yeah,

824
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: I've got some amazing news I'll say for episode three.

825
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: I'll save it for episode I'll say it for the

826
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: episode anyway. Amazing news.

827
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: Yes, and let us know if he want us to

828
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: chat with Trevor about anything else, like if there's anything.

829
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: I'm personally just between the listeners and I I think

830
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: it'd be a great replacement for Gordy. So sorry you

831
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: heard that. My apologies. It just the Driver's Show with

832
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: Paul and Trevor just it just slides off the tongue

833
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 2: a little better.

834
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what else slides off the tongue. Trevor's dick,

835
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: go sucker.