WEBVTT - Does A Shared Facebook Account Mean Someone Cheated?

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Froda Kittie Buyes, it's flex and from the froom. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm so sorry, but the butchering is

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<v Speaker 1>happening with your name. Initially it was me Fleximami, Flex Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>and now because of the creative flares I've taken with

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<v Speaker 1>your name, now people just can't say rooms. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no difficulty before I started calling you. Flew me through me, Fromeni, Frominda.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even say it.

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<v Speaker 2>We get a little headline on CINNY Morning Herald last week,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out, shout out Flumes, who can't even say it myself, flex.

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<v Speaker 3>And flumes, which sounds great, but it's not you.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it reminds me. Do you know spy kids,

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<v Speaker 2>those little thumbs. I don't know what they call, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I see when I hear Flumes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely think of uh like a middle aged

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<v Speaker 1>guy wearing high waisted pants like dress pants, Flume Flumes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Alas podcasting time.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a pretty podcast speaking at length with no breaks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no time for back and forth as well, like a

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<v Speaker 1>single train, a stream of consciousness, just just support from you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>today's gonna be a great one. We of course talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Love Island. It is back nature is healing. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's unfortunate or just different. But

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<v Speaker 1>they've changed the format and they didn't announce it to

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<v Speaker 1>the very first episode, and I feel like had I

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<v Speaker 1>have known, I wouldn't feel any different about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just would have liked some notice. So the format's change,

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<v Speaker 1>the vibe is different. Is it going to be super juicy?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it might be a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of bisexuality happening. I hope, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice. Well shall we Yeah, I guess, so this

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<v Speaker 2>is flex and frooms. I have something to say about

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<v Speaker 2>people who share Facebook accounts. We've all seen it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the Lisa and Girard, it's the Lilian and Thomas.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cute, and it's all so the.

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<v Speaker 2>End is obviously the middle initial. Yes, they are pretending

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<v Speaker 2>to be one person, but it's a couple, a co

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<v Speaker 2>created co lab face account lab. I found people talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this on Reddit because I was looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>weirdest things that people do in a long term relationship

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<v Speaker 2>that they thought they would never do, and the top

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<v Speaker 2>one was sharing a Facebook account. And I think this

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<v Speaker 2>has been spoken about before because it illustrates a few

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<v Speaker 2>potential pitfalls in a relationship, and the biggest one, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>is a lack of trust. And in the comment section,

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<v Speaker 2>people were saying, if you have a shared Facebook account,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because you have a lack of trust. His few

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<v Speaker 2>things that they said screams trust issues. Right, My first

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<v Speaker 2>question is always okay, who cheated? Someone also said it's

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<v Speaker 2>a need to control when you have a lack of control.

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<v Speaker 2>And something that I thought was the most interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>this is obviously from like question back crack, is that

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<v Speaker 2>you're back.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my own shoulder joint, both shoulders, not just the one,

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<v Speaker 3>the left one. It's like, get out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, somebody wrote in, and I found this super interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously it happens across generations. Good lord, my dad

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<v Speaker 2>does this to my poor mum. It's not control or trust,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just marchoism.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, is marchoism? I think he's talking about his

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<v Speaker 2>dad being marcho right, Yeah, he's giving alpha male alpha

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<v Speaker 2>male that's kicking the dad is very quiet and socially anxious,

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<v Speaker 2>which comes off as stoic. A joint account is the

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<v Speaker 2>equivalent of standing behind my mum. While she happily chats

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<v Speaker 2>up everyone in the room. When he does make a

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<v Speaker 2>post or comment, he'll usually delete it an hour later.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a third type of person that shares in

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<v Speaker 2>a account. First you've got your cheaterh Then you've got

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<v Speaker 2>your trust issues. Then you've got the dad who just

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<v Speaker 2>wants to stand behind the mum. He's a spectator, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and it really shows that some people are so super

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<v Speaker 2>anxious about having a social media presence. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>most interesting thing that I want to understand is when

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking to this person who has a joint account,

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<v Speaker 2>are they telling you which one it is? Am I

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<v Speaker 2>talking to Graham? Or you would have to sign off realistically.

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<v Speaker 1>Or there's like a primary user, the admin, the moderator,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other person just says access to the account.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're not uploading into the Facebook albums, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>making the statuses.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one spokesperson on behalf of both.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them, so it's kind of like a mar.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking on behalf of her and Graham.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, would you have a problem interacting Let's say your

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<v Speaker 2>best friend had a shared account, would you have a

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<v Speaker 2>problem interacting with him or her knowing that their partner

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<v Speaker 2>was watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Um, I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have a different relationship to the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>because one might say what we're doing right now is

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<v Speaker 1>an equivalent of a shared account, Like what we're building

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<v Speaker 1>now is kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're saying like, if you want flex and rooms, come

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<v Speaker 1>to us here and we'll talk to you together at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time as a solid unit in matrimony. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a convenience thing, like if I'm tagging you

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<v Speaker 1>in the same photos and we're at the same place

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<v Speaker 1>and we're raising the same kids, let's just have the

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<v Speaker 1>one account.

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<v Speaker 3>Why we're gonna have two? Yeah, facts. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like a generational thing. I can't imagine, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you popped up tomorrow and had a shared account

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<v Speaker 1>with a new partner, I'd assume it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a bit you know, well, my sister.

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<v Speaker 2>So, my sister's only thirty and she shares an account

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<v Speaker 2>with her boyfriend I don't live, like he's essentially lives

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<v Speaker 2>with her on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like an Olivia n boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think maybe they've done a complete pseudonym. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so in their little microcosm, basically just use Facebook Marketplace.

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<v Speaker 2>But I still even think that if you're not interacting

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<v Speaker 2>with people that you know on you know, through the

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook account, but you're still on Facebook marketplace, think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're both using it on separate phones. So therefore it

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<v Speaker 2>would be really interesting to know what is it, what

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<v Speaker 2>ads are coming up, you know, just targeted.

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<v Speaker 3>Out at what you're really thinking about. Actually, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 3>you're skewing the analytics.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you say you were When was your birthday?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it your anniversary?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think the same person who would share a

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook account or have a joint account is the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person who'd have a joint bank account would

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<v Speaker 1>share a room with their partner.

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<v Speaker 3>That's sick. Who gets it when they break up?

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<v Speaker 2>Who gets the Facebook?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, just delete it, delete all the memories with it. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a weird phenomena, and I'm sure that give

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<v Speaker 1>it ten years. When people of our age group and

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<v Speaker 1>younger transition into the next stage of life, then I

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<v Speaker 1>can I think I'll have a better analysis of what

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like because I don't think I know anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who has a shared account, so I could only the

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<v Speaker 1>person I'm picturing is some stereotypical Midwestern person with a

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<v Speaker 1>live laugh love mural in their apartment and a barnyard

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<v Speaker 1>aesthetic in their home.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just for clarification, that's not my sister. She listens

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<v Speaker 2>to this show and that would greatly offend her. So gipsy,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not thinking of your sister. I'm not thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty year old, like cool millennial. I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>like a forty two year old mother of two two

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<v Speaker 2>silly boys, me and my silly boy. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>flex and frooms on Kita.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I the asshole for coming out at my sister's wedding?

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<v Speaker 2>You just really launched into that. Yeah, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I was ready for it. It's a hypothetic. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about you. You're not a gay man.

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<v Speaker 3>We could be, would I be?

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<v Speaker 2>You could be?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well we're doing Am I the asshole? If it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>clear enough, listen to this. It's a twenty nine year

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<v Speaker 1>old guy, let's call him Adam, and up until last week,

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't told his family that he was gay. They

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<v Speaker 1>always suspected it, but they never really asked because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not approved of in his family.

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<v Speaker 3>So we kind of know what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has three sisters, Michelle who's thirty six, Julia

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<v Speaker 1>who's thirty five.

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<v Speaker 3>And Annie who's twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's been dating guy called Peter for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months, but he hasn't told his family yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>his older sister, Michelle got married last week and during

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<v Speaker 1>the reception, lots of people were making toasts, including his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>His dad said something along the lines of I finally

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<v Speaker 1>have my first son in law, and hopefully I will

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<v Speaker 1>soon have two more, maybe someday even a daughter in law.

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<v Speaker 1>If Sissy pants here, man's up and gets a girlfriend. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody laughed except his middle sister, Julia. Right, So after

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<v Speaker 1>the toasts and before dinner, Julia comes over and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, are you okay? And Adam's like, looking

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<v Speaker 1>real sad. He's not hiding it very well. The vibes

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<v Speaker 1>are not up. Adam's like, yeah, I'm fine. Dad's comment

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<v Speaker 1>just bugged me, and she said to try and let

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<v Speaker 1>it go, and he did ish. Anyway, during dinner, there

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<v Speaker 1>was like heaps of tables and all his immediate family

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<v Speaker 1>were at the same table. His dad starts asking him

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<v Speaker 1>if he has a girlfriend already, and if he will

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<v Speaker 1>give him grandkids that whole spiel we've been there. Adam

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<v Speaker 1>brushes it off, and then Michelle, his older sister who's

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<v Speaker 1>getting married, comes by to the table to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do what brides do, meet and greets and says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can hook you up with my bridesmaid if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to, unless you are wired the wrong way. Julia

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<v Speaker 1>middle sister, the one who checked on Adam, rolled her eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Adam's mom says, maybe you should have that

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<v Speaker 1>girl bride'smaid come over here. He needs to be with

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<v Speaker 1>a woman at his age. Adam just loses it, just

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<v Speaker 1>loses it, absolutely hysterical, and goes, actually, mum, I'm gay.

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<v Speaker 3>Night drop.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole table goes silent. Some other people around other

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<v Speaker 1>tables heard too. Is a whole commotion, a whole affair anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle bride starts crying, says, I ruined her wedding with

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<v Speaker 1>my awful confession.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of his family says he's an asshole for saying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Middle sisters on his side and says that she's

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly fine with him being gay, and if our family

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<v Speaker 1>or their family didn't want to hear it, then they

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<v Speaker 1>should have stayed quiet. So is Adam the asshole for

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<v Speaker 1>ruining Michelle's wedding? Is a lot to digest at once.

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<v Speaker 1>I told it like, I was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Your eye was there, realistically I was there? Is he

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<v Speaker 3>the asshole? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no? For me, it's a hard no. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>hard no coming out saying yeah, yeah, stop me, stop

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<v Speaker 2>it now. Now it's Pride month.

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<v Speaker 3>But enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, my thoughts on this are that if your family

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<v Speaker 2>is making it such a big deal for you to

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<v Speaker 2>have never come out, you may as well absolutely blast

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<v Speaker 2>them out of the water with a diabolical confession at

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<v Speaker 2>a wedding, make it at a heterosexual.

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<v Speaker 3>Wedding, shatter their traditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody calling you a sissy in a city pants, cissy pants.

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<v Speaker 1>Your dad calling you a sissy pants unprovoked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's awful. At least he's got one sister that

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<v Speaker 2>gets it. I feel like you need one person in

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<v Speaker 2>your family that actually understands how to be a normal person.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds awful.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a terrible predicament.

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<v Speaker 1>Also because you know, like nobody wants to be putt

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<v Speaker 1>in an uncomfortable position anyway, and also in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of a wedding being gained up on by your family.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever experienced that, where like

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<v Speaker 1>your family gets a bit too comfortable roasting you in

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<v Speaker 1>front of other people.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, wait a.

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<v Speaker 1>Second, please don't make me. Don't make me because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna like what I do. It's a threat that

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<v Speaker 1>they pushed Adam too far, and who wants to come

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<v Speaker 1>out that way? Like they've just ruined his story. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like gonna stick with him for all the wrong reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that one day they wake up and realize

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<v Speaker 2>what they've done.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they will. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel quite old to still be holding these archaic

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<v Speaker 2>expectations of a man. Anyway, Adam, you're not the asshole.

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<v Speaker 2>We stand by you. Adam.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell your parents Flexive room said you suck parents fleck

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<v Speaker 1>and rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>We spend a lot of time in this room together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a small studio sound protection. You can't really hear

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<v Speaker 2>what's on the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>I would disagree. I'm always hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing footsteps, footfalls, someone washing their dishes outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you really want to do, you could enter

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<v Speaker 2>the most quiet room in the entire world. Somebody has

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<v Speaker 2>made a room that is so quiet that people can't

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<v Speaker 2>even stay in there more than forty five minutes. What So,

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<v Speaker 2>basically it's this place. It's like, it's called an ntoic

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<v Speaker 2>chamber at all Field Laboratories in Minnesota, and basically it's

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<v Speaker 2>so silent that it's actually negative decibels and.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably feels like you're drowning. Yeah, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't even imagine. It's like it's like when you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a room with all lights off and you completely I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like a human being. I feel like simply

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<v Speaker 2>a spirit, a spirit, a spirit. But basically, in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that started it said, we challenge people to

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<v Speaker 2>sit in the chamber in the dark. One person stayed

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<v Speaker 2>in there for forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so that's where they know, that's where that's where

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<v Speaker 1>they've set you up, because when are we ever just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the room in the dark. It'd be stressing.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be stressful under any circumstances, not just because it's quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Put me in a regular room like this one that's quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you'd be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they're not fine. But apparently when it's quiet, your

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<v Speaker 2>ears will adapt. But the quieter room, the more things

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<v Speaker 2>you here, ipso facto, You'll hear your heart beating, You'll

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<v Speaker 2>hear your lungs, You'll hear your stomach gurgling loudly. In

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<v Speaker 2>the the chioic chamber, you become the sound. But the

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<v Speaker 2>room isn't just for torturing people. Apparently. Supposedly companies test

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<v Speaker 2>their products in it to find out how loud they are.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, some love their products in it to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out how loud they are. Yeah, that's important.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get a Yeah, and NASA even use it

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<v Speaker 2>to help astronauts prepare for space.

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<v Speaker 3>Get us in there, Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can do it down. I feel like we

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<v Speaker 2>have marketing budget.

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<v Speaker 3>Barock, producer, Barock.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you say, get in there and pull your pants down? No,

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<v Speaker 2>getting there, pull your pants down?

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I ever?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think we could go. I think we could

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<v Speaker 1>do it. All right, we'll stand back, break the world record.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do forty six minutes, crank it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I wouldn't mind not hearing anything for a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. A flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>We are celebrating.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a pep in my step, a joy in

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<v Speaker 1>my loins, a lust for life.

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<v Speaker 2>A rocket in my pocket that's in my bum hole.

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<v Speaker 1>See you could have just left it there like it

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<v Speaker 1>could have, and I all, I can see it in

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<v Speaker 1>your eyes when you know the perfect time to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>And you crank it. You trail off those you crank it,

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<v Speaker 3>but you always take it too far. Love Island UK

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<v Speaker 3>is back.

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<v Speaker 1>It is hand on heart the best dating reality TV

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<v Speaker 1>show in the whole wide world.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say Big Brother O one walked, so Love

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<v Speaker 2>Island twenty twenty two could run. You think yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the whole idea of like early Big Brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>dating was a massive part of it and those storylines

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<v Speaker 2>are the most popular. And then obviously Big Brother, you're

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<v Speaker 2>an ex contestant, you can tell.

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<v Speaker 3>Me all about the reality store.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you kind of like let the wheels

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<v Speaker 2>fall off, and that's where Love Island came in with

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<v Speaker 2>inter house relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>We love that. Thank you for that assessment. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know any dates and time stamps, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go with that. The latest season of Love

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<v Speaker 1>Island came out. If you're in Australia, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>that where you get that, I don't work for that research, No,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's fantastic. So we've just gotten introduced to all

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<v Speaker 1>of the housemates and the contestants. The format is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different. Usually the Islanders choose who they want

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<v Speaker 1>to couple up with, but in this instance, the public,

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<v Speaker 1>or so they say, has chosen who people like who

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<v Speaker 1>should get together, which is just rogue.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, don't mess with the format. Yeah, it worked alas.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've been getting to know each other, which is

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<v Speaker 1>strange because if you've been coupled up with someone that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else chose for you, you see that like half

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<v Speaker 1>the contestants are really trying to make it work and

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<v Speaker 1>the other half like, please are recoupling, Please get me

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<v Speaker 1>away from There's beast that there was one activity that

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the most recent episode, the first episode, where

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<v Speaker 1>all the Islanders are sitting around the fire and they

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<v Speaker 1>get a textenter their phone with like a challenge, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a truth or dair school camp, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's do something naughty, so lick the most attractive

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<v Speaker 1>Islander's finger, or kiss the person you're most attracted to.

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<v Speaker 1>This kind of ice breaker escalations. You're familiar. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of the women islanders. Her name is Amber, just stunning

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<v Speaker 1>as they all are, there's no surprise, but she gets

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<v Speaker 1>the prompt to kiss the islander that she's most attracted to.

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<v Speaker 1>So she decides to give a kiss to a woman

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<v Speaker 1>called Tash. And so she says, oh my god, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give a Tash a pash like that's hilarious, and

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<v Speaker 1>the guys look slabbergasted. One even says, you can't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, why not? Why can't I do that?

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<v Speaker 1>So then she goes and gives Tasha pash And I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Describe to you how horrified.

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<v Speaker 1>These men looked. It wasn't like, ooh, two girls kissing, cute, sexy, nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like, oh, like she likes girls, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>They just looked horrified, confused, maybe a little bit grossed out,

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<v Speaker 1>like a bit like they just see a like a

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<v Speaker 1>car a car wreck, and they couldn't look away. And

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<v Speaker 1>then to see them interacting with each other, being like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is she?

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<v Speaker 3>Why would she? What is she like? What does she mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Why would she kiss her?

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<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't tell if the guys were like, is

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<v Speaker 1>she not attracted to any of us? And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>she's kissed this girl, or if the men of Love

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<v Speaker 1>Island just don't believe in bisexuality.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they were like, why would she kiss a woman

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<v Speaker 1>if she could kiss a man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that radity.

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<v Speaker 2>You think there's like two scenarios why everybody was shocked. Yes, a,

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<v Speaker 2>the guys don't believe in bisexuality.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the faces weren't like they were just so confused,

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<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't adding up. It almost felt like they

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<v Speaker 1>saw something that could not be explained. If all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, producer Brook started licking her toe, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be like, it's kind of like laughable, but also

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<v Speaker 1>like a bit strange and you don't know where to

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<v Speaker 1>place it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what the look was.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a doc sir, prior to recording. She does

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<v Speaker 2>the most diabolical fat deep burn. Yeah, it was guttural,

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<v Speaker 2>came from a deep place in her stumm diaphragm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're either they're like sickeningly confused. I need to

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<v Speaker 2>watch the clip back. I think they were confused. I

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<v Speaker 2>think definitely your point about them being a bit maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like Flabbergast's why she didn't pick a guy. Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>feeling a bit unattractive. I wonder as well, I could

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<v Speaker 2>be going down the garden path a bit with.

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<v Speaker 3>This Let's go there though.

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<v Speaker 2>Is everybody on the show show like, are there any

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<v Speaker 2>bisexual people that couple up? Well that has never happened

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<v Speaker 2>in this happened before, see.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sure there are bisexual people on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I just wonder because Tash hasn't necessarily come out

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<v Speaker 2>as bisexual. So is Amber going and kissing her maybe

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<v Speaker 2>crossing a boundary?

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<v Speaker 3>It was consensual.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, I want to kiss Tash, and Tash

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<v Speaker 1>got up walked towards Amber.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, oh yeah, like so down.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine if she didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, but that's we're not taking it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they wouldn't have aired that if I think they

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<v Speaker 1>would just be like produce.

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<v Speaker 3>With be like okay, let's like I reckay that again.

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<v Speaker 3>They definitely would have had it.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly this season they're trying to do things differently, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like to take the most important part of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the coupling. Right. It's like, you see these

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<v Speaker 1>men choose the women they like, and then we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>offended when they're all saying the same thing, or like

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<v Speaker 1>we listen to their promos and they say, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a type, I'm just into, you know, the personality,

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<v Speaker 1>or they like I am into four foot one blow

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<v Speaker 1>with white tone ows. Yes, it's been said before. White

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<v Speaker 1>toneauls specifically like white polish, white polish and so. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you see the recoupling where they might contradict themselves

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<v Speaker 1>or it's the same girls who don't get picked, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like this really amazing, uncomfortable situation because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you recover from being the person who's not chosen?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you reckon? That's maybe why they brought in the

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<v Speaker 2>public voting, because it's pretty crazy when you're the last

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<v Speaker 2>person that hasn't been chosen.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's been done before.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it takes the storyline to the same place where

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same type of people who don't get picked.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't create a very interesting amount of conflict because

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen it a thousand times before. What is really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about the public choosing is what I mentioned before.

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<v Speaker 1>You have people who are like, this could just be

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<v Speaker 1>my inn because as we know in the old Love Island,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a public favorite, you're like pegged to go

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<v Speaker 1>the whole way, faked to go the whole way. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you start with the perception that the public

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<v Speaker 1>chose us to be together, let's just milk it milk

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<v Speaker 1>and milk it go the whole way. That could just

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<v Speaker 1>be an easy win. But what I'm finding is some

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<v Speaker 1>people just feel like they can't trust their partner because

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't chosen by them. Ah okay, right, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing to be chosen and then they changed their mind.

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<v Speaker 3>But if we were just put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Like oh you get the dud, imagine that, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this there's this couple, this black guy called Kenna

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<v Speaker 1>and this black girl called India. And in his promos

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, everyone's like, what's your type?

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, oh, like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like I go for the same type

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<v Speaker 1>of girl, whatever, whatever, whatever, not being being really vague.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they get put together. Their interactions really weird. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess everyone's a bit socially awkward, and he's really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to milk that they've got a real connection. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>our names both start with I, you know, like we

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<v Speaker 1>both like shoes. That's like where it's going right, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, so, what's your type? And he's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. And she's like, what kind of people have

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<v Speaker 1>you dated before? And he's like, as if to not

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, like you, I don't date I've never

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<v Speaker 1>dated someone who looks like you or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, I'm suspicious of him because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he wants to make it make sense because visually

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<v Speaker 1>we look really good together, but I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 1>attractive to me, and I think he won't admit that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just so much easier if we look like

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<v Speaker 1>a solid couple from the jump. Imagine how insecure you

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<v Speaker 1>would be in Love Island number one, and then like

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<v Speaker 1>you get paired with someone who you're like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>their consolation price.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean that they're gonna find out because then eventually, with

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<v Speaker 2>Love Island people recouple. Yeah, of course, in this first recoupling,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of gonna be like a blood bath.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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