WEBVTT - REHOBH - RECAP - WEEK 3 - ALANA MCLEAN 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.680 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:05.400 TV Reload, the podcast Last Leap overby Hey guys, welcome 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.240 back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.400 clicking and downloading on today's episode with one of my besties, 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.000 Alana MacLean, someone who I have used as the official 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.880 headquarters of the Bravo Universe commentary for many years. I 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.280 hope you've been enjoying our episode recaps so far. We're 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.520 obviously just leaking our private phone conversations at this point, because, 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.800 let's face it, we would be debriefing real Housewives of 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:30.320 Beverly Hills even if we weren't recording it and putting 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.280 it on a podcast. Today, we will unpack episode three, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.159 which includes our hot takes on what the girls got 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.000 up to this week, and including some of our golden 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.400 nuggets of gossip that we have found from scouring the internet. 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.320 We will discuss the change of pace in the episode 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.320 and if the producers are trying to avoid negative backlash 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.640 and the social media commentary. I will get Alana's perspective 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.440 on Kathy Hilton's hats, and we will find out how 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.880 much they are worth and if you should buy them yourself. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.840 We will address the awkward x wive that ban Kyle 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:04.080 and duritz and ability to relinquish their roles in PK 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.640 and Maritzio's new Bachelor Lives. You were going to get 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.480 plenty of commentary on Durreit's continued beef with Kyle, what 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.520 we think of Teddy Mellencamp being dragged in, if Kyle 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.520 has her heart in this season, and what the producers 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.440 are foreshadowing with this whole Kyle Richard's takedown. There is 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.560 so much to talk about, with so many inside revelations 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.440 from Alana in my perspective, So sit back and relax 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.440 as we unpack the wonderful world of the Real Housewives 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:36.160 of Beverly Hills Season fourteen, Episode three, Hey, how are 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:37.000 you hello? 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.559 So good to see you or hear you or both. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.440 I want to know about Christmas? So you losing your mind? 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.800 Slipping into the Christ's period? 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.760 Losing it. I've embraced my Martha Stuart era, and I've 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:53.000 decorated the new house and I've made what like I've 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.880 got some inspo from Instagram and they made like a 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.480 little kmar village. And I spent eighty dollars on a 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.040 light up read for the tree like I've gone besert. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:03.720 I need help, like send help. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.720 I just know you so well that you know your 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.360 version of Christmas is like Western Australia's version of Kathy 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:10.519 Hilton's Christmas Party. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.919 It's just my biggest goal is to be like Kathy 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.040 Hilton in that way. It's so right. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.440 How's your no, I'm like the Kim Richards Christmas. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:20.799 Just a whole lot of empty. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:25.160 Bottles, empty bottles everywhere. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.359 Just a responsible amount of empty bottles. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.800 Well, here we are episode three, which is very exciting 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.119 because I feel like we're moving very quickly and we're 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.880 getting into things, and it's being able to tell us 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.880 whether or not we're going to stick on one storyline 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.680 or whether we're going to go in other places. So 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.440 we'll get into that. However, last week I did ask 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.120 you a question that I want to revisit straight away 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.760 because our listeners may want to know your answer to it. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.600 But do you think some of the toxic culture online 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:55.400 has subsided since Lisa Renner has left? Yeah? 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.960 Well, you were the one that was more on Twitter, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.760 keeping abreast of it all, sort of see it on 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.920 Instagram or Facebook, where all those accounts that you know, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.200 you sort of follow would repost things, and I guess 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.840 there's been a shift in that I'm not seeing as 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.240 much of it in terms of the heaviness. You know 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.520 that we are the biggest Lisa Rinna fans. We loved Renna, 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.600 but everyone obviously put a lot on her and really 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.880 came for her. But it's so interesting that you brought 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.440 that question up at the end of last week's episode. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.680 And when I watched this week's episode, I was like, 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.440 hang on, this is maybe because production are giving us 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:39.680 deliberately lighter episodes. Because last night's episode with the delivery 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:44.920 of Kathy Hilton delivering these suitcases the Lorna Murray hats. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.520 She's Australian. By the way, side note, I would like 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.880 to know how her online sales are going today, because 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.800 literally how the episode is about those hats. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:59.040 I wanted to do something extra special, so I'm invading 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:04.760 the girls with invitations inside personalized suitcases, and there was 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:05.440 just nothing. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.440 There was the duck Duck goose, and there was nothing 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.160 really happening on the trip, and there's Cathy eating a banana, 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.560 and I was just like, I actually paused it at 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.640 one point and was like, how far in are we? 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.920 And we were eighteen minutes and I was like, I've 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:22.279 seen nothing. So maybe that's why the toxic culture is 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.160 backed off online a little bit because production giving us 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.880 lighter episodes to sort of combat that. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.640 What do you think, Well, my first question is obvious, 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.640 and that is the only way we know whether or 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.080 not those Kathy Hilton hats of selling, whether it's an 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.640 Australian person or anyone else, is if you've ordered one online. 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.680 Well, I did look at them. My friend has to do. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.080 My friend actually has to They don't really suit me 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.080 that much with the plates. I tried hers on and 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:50.840 I was like, well, you know, I love a hat. 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:51.839 I love a hat. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.000 I've got so many hats. Robbie's like, we're literally running 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.520 out of room for these hats. I need a hat 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.600 rom or something. But that particular style is probably not 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.920 the best look for me. But I mean I might 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.280 get caught up in the hype and just buy one anyway. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:05.960 That's all I want to know. That's what people want 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.320 to know. They're expensive because Kathy Hilton dropping like. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.200 Yes, they're like two hundred bucks. Some of them are 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.840 two sixty. But then she had a black Friday saleon, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.240 which is when I was looking at them and I 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.680 was like, oh, but I didn't quite commit. But yeah, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:18.960 I wouldn't say they're a cheap hat. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.760 Okay, well, in the landscape of hats, and this might 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.960 be a different podcast. Is that a cheap hat in 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.640 the landscape of hats? That's what I want to know 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.120 is is these Kathy Hilton hats expensively? 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.560 No? I would say that's on the opperacial line for 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:31.080 a hat. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.520 Okay, all right, So do you think that we're getting 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.040 a B side episode to combat the blowback? That's kind 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.159 of what we were talking about. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.000 I feel like they're putting things in there that are 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.359 just a bit simpler. They don't want everything to be 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.560 as heavy. Having said that, it felt filler to me, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.520 it felt filler. I was like, what's happening? I think 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.600 coming off those first two episodes in particular, where it 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.240 was just hit the ground running from the start and 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.160 you were sort of instantly involved in all the storylines 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.280 and the kyl and jury drama and the breakups and 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.400 the pque and all of it, and then suddenly we're 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:09.640 just driving around for fifteen minutes watching Kathy Eta banana 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.800 drop off some souit pases and then we're playing ducked 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.400 up goose on a beach and some kind of running race. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.360 It just felt I wasn't looking at that thinking, oh, 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.960 that's nice. I like watching the girls have fun. I 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.960 was thinking this is really a bit snoozefest. Did you 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:25.680 feel the same. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.760 It was a little bit third water slide at the 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.120 water park for me being on the first water slide 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:31.839 and you're like, oh my god, this place is amazing. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.440 Second water Slide's still good, and then the third water 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.039 slide You're like, what am I doing here? And how 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:37.720 am I going to spend the rest of my day 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.040 at the water poss I don't understand why anyone ever 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.279 tries to pad out a series. You've got to go 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.800 so hard with television these days, and maybe Housewives, if 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.720 Beverly Hills, they feel like they can do this. But 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.640 I think it probably leans more into what you were 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.560 talking about, and I think that they are trying to 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.200 make sure that there's a little bit more fashion and 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.440 fun so that we're not just getting hit over the 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.400 head with too much of the fighting. Because I also 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.520 feel like it would be very hard for Bose to 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.440 come into this show and fit in correctly. If she's 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:12.760 just going to come in and it's going to be 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.280 blow by blow by blow. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.760 I no, I agree with you. I think look, I'm 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.760 all for having some fun girly time. I think we 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.200 could have seen more of the trip unless of Kathy 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.840 delivering all the suitcases and stuff like that. Honestly just 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.640 went on and on. I'm like, we're getting nothing from this. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.000 So that's where I think it was just a bit 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:33.440 of a wasted opportunity. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.160 It's Kathy porn is what I like to call it, 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:36.920 and I call. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:39.720 Goodness. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.239 But also Kathy is getting extra special attention this season 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.600 to make sure that we as an audience like her. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.920 That's how I feel at this point of the show. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.679 And I went back and looked after watching, after hearing 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.600 what you had to say about Kathy in Paris and 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.240 Love and then going and watching a couple of those 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.240 episodes from series one, she had some bad pare on 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.480 doing that. I don't know who signed off on Paris 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.120 and Love, like maybe Kathy was sitting at home was like, 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.320 oh well, Paris has made some home videos, send them 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.239 out without actually watching how bad she was. And then 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.600 after we saw her say what she said about the 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.800 DJ and Erica Jane and Lisa Rena holding her a 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.200 task on that one, I feel like she's like, guys, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.960 Andy Cohen, I'm coming back. I'm coming back, but I 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.080 want some Kathy porn, which is just me with glutton 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.560 for good content. Feel good, Kathy. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.880 Yes, it's the quirks, That's what it is. And I 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.560 feel like you could have one of those little quirk 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.720 counters in the corner and I was like, Oh, Kathy 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:42.480 eating potato with sour cream and Cavier quirky, Kathy wearing 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:48.240 her hat, quirky, Kathy eating a banana, quirky, Kathy wanting 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.000 to play Doc Dot Goose quirky. And it's and then 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.920 saying things like, oh, which elephants in the room, like 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.280 when they were about to start getting into you know, 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.440 the ins and outs of these ten between Kyle and Durid, 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.880 and then she sort of jumps in with her hunky 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.880 Dory and witch elephants in the room and oh, I 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:12.280 just feel like it is feeling very orchestrated. To use 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.679 your word from last week, That's exactly what it is. 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.800 It was so funny that she went for that joke. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.280 She was like Oh, this is the opportunity to say 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.800 something like hunky dory again. But she didn't quite commit 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.360 to it, she didn't sell it, and so it just 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.000 landed with a massive thought, Yeah, I agree, and. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.960 Everyone is like, oh, Kathy's so funny and Kathy's so quirky, 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.680 and I was like, no, I don't think this is 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:43.360 coming now from an organic, witty place. I just feel 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.520 like she's trying to cram all these things in. She 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.480 knows that's what the audience was initially loving her for, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.280 and now we're getting we're getting smashed with it, and 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.160 I think it's too much and I don't think it's 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:55.559 coming across as authentic. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:59.480 Reality TV for me has always been about being a 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.800 fly on the wall and getting the real content out 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.840 of people, like what do people really behave like at home? 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.360 And that's why Beverly Hills has always been so fascinating, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:12.280 because it is the slightest peak into how people live 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.560 who are extremely wealthy and living the life that people 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.160 like myself and I'm assuming you as well, would love 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.479 to lead, and so we can live through them vicariously. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.080 And then when we as an audience watching these people 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.319 sort of watering down that experience and putting on a performance. 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.160 And I am kind of tilting into something here because 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.800 Jennifer Tilly as well did feel as though she's kind 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.520 of being a bit performancy as well. And then maybe 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.400 she's read the handle. She's like to survive the Twitter 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.960 clash or now it's called X, to survive the wrath 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.040 of what those people are going to say about you. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.800 Maybe you be funny and quirky and don't give it all, 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.160 which is not what we're there for. It's not what's 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:52.320 written on the box. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.160 I agree. I think they've brought her in to be 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:01.559 that similar personality type to Kathy and provide that comedic 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.440 relief that offsets some of the drama so that that 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:10.040 online narrative is calming down and simmering down. But I mean, 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.240 we did find out about her marriage to Sam Simon, 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.160 who was a co creator from the Simpsons. She receives 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.679 money from the Simpsons like every month. She said, oh, 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:20.920 thank you, Sam Simon. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.000 My ex husband was Sam Simon who created the Simpsons. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:26.720 And then when we. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.920 Got to Forest, I got a piece of the Simpsons 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.280 in the door settlement, and nobody knew that the Simpsons 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.760 was going to go on for a trilliance of here. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.120 So every day, honestly every day, I'm like, thank you, Sam. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.640 So that was interesting because I was thinking I've only 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.640 seen her in a couple of things way back in 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.120 the day. She's obviously loaded, and you start going, how 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.839 But then when she said that, and then she's walking 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.360 around with her Louis Vuitton thirty three thousand dollar limited 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.160 edition boat bag, and she's friends with Sutton, who also 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.800 receives this three hundred grand monthly payment, it is making 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.640 a lot more sense where she's getting that cash. She's rich, 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.040 honey rich. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.040 And a little bloated. I don't know what was in 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.200 that bag, but she's obviously into the snacks. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.640 I don't know, Oh, Benjamin Norris, that's way I find 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.040 that she looks different to the others, like refreshing. That's 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.640 I quite enjoy that, But it's more the performative side 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.080 of her personality that's feeling a bit forced for me. 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:29.120 What do you think about the interactions between Kyle at 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.160 the moment and Maritzio, Because I thought it was really 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:37.040 fascinating to watch him coming into his old home, seeing 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.840 what Kyle has done. I think he was being very 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.960 well mannered and very taking it all on the chin. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.840 Oh you've changed this, Oh that's great, this is fine. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:47.880 And then when they sat down on the couch, she 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:52.000 became so weird. As far as I'm concerned. I was like, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.520 when you start quizzing him on things that he's doing 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.000 at his bachelor pad, I don't really think that that's 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.280 your domain. It's not really good territory anymore. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.800 I assumed when Merl got this place that he was 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.800 going to have it staged because it was temporary, but 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.080 he decided to buy the furniture, which of course is 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:12.880 more prominent. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.439 So I thought, oh, well, this. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:16.880 Does not seem very temporary. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.200 Yes, I agree. It was so strange because it's sort 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.760 of you know, she was obviously the one that called 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.160 called it off. She said, that's it, we're having a separation. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.040 She wasn't happy about something we never found out truly 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.200 what it was, which we spoke about last week. She's 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.480 protected him and she is continuing too, because we've never 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.000 found that out. But it's sort of at that point 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.240 she went out, We're seeing photos, we're seeing video clips 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.719 of her in Morgan Wade, We're seeing you know, all 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.840 the tabloids sort of fodder about those two and now 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.040 it's almost like he's moved on. He's fine, he's moved out, 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.080 and now she's a little bit pissed that he's not 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.720 begging to come back. He's like, I've got my condo, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.920 I've got my p K. I'm like traveling and spraying 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.280 champagne with twenty year old girls. And she's like, can 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.880 I still buy you some sheets? Why don't you need me? 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:07.960 You know, I did feel for her a little bit 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.080 when she had that confessional. She's like, I'm not really 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.760 a wife now, and I'm not a mother. I don't 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.640 really know what to do with my time. So it's 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.800 not that I don't get it, but I just feel like, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.040 if you're going to end it, you have to be 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.680 prepared to let them go. He's not going to beg 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.120 to come back. I think they're done. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.000 And you can also tell that she doesn't even realize this, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.320 but she's rejecting him in lots of ways. I thought 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.240 the conversation with him was she mimicked him at one point, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.480 which made me laugh out loud, but then it made 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.440 me realize what she still thinks of him. You know, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.040 Like there was a bit where he's got his big 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.440 choppers out, his big farlap teeth, and they're obviously, you know, 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.240 new teeth. They're not the teeth that he used to 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:43.000 have any kind. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.640 Of pa both have new teeth. They're very white teeth. 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.720 There's a lot of big white teeth, and I have 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.960 big white teeth, but they do not happen in years, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.120 and so I can say I'm looking at some big 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:53.680 white teeth. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:55.560 So funny. 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.920 She kind of goes oh and represented her teeth out 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.560 mock him, and I was like, oh my god, this 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.320 is super duper awkward. I mean, I'm here for it 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.120 because these are these are the moments that I was 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.280 referring to earlier. These are those flying the wall things. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.680 Kyle Richards is very good at allowing us to have 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.560 a little peek inside her life without completely giving the 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.320 whole cowway, you know what I mean. 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.520 Yes, And I think that was a perfect example of 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.800 the fact that she was getting frustrated, so she turned 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.440 to that sort of mockery because she was like, well, 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.440 do you want to take Romeo the dog to your house? 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.280 He was like no, thanks. She was like, oh, I 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.200 painted the bathroom. She was expecting him to obviously go, 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.040 I don't like it. She was like, well, I don't care. 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.280 It's my bathroom now, and he's like, looks great. And 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.720 then she's talking about the condo. He's like, I bought 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.480 my furniture. I'm having a good time. It's all good 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.479 with me. And you could tell she was getting frustrated, 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.760 but she sort of had no right to be, and 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.000 I think that's where the mockery came out. I just 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.560 feel like it's very much a case of you break 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.400 up with someone, but you sort of want them to 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.120 fight for you to get you back, and I just 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.360 don't think he's doing that. He's like, I wish you well, 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.080 in the words of Gwyneth Paltrow, love you, wish you well. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.240 I'll be over here with some twenty year olds and 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.960 my Dancing with the Stars partner and living it up. 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:09.800 That's what I think. 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.200 That is What do you think about the dynamics of 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.080 men and women? Do you think that in that era 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.160 of their relationship, there's a lot of women throughout that 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.600 time that mothered their boyfriend, like mothered their husbands and 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.200 looked after them. And whilst they've been like you can 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.000 sit over there and all the rest of it they 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:31.520 still really enjoyed looking after and having some control in 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.160 that and that domain. And I think that is what 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.040 we're going to see with Deret, that is what we're 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.240 going to see with Kyle, that sort of relinquishing of 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.880 that mothering role of their husbands because they don't like 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.000 them doing things for themselves and they're not ready to 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:46.440 let that go. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.280 Yeah, I mean I think more so Kyle. She's always 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.560 you know, ever since we've seen her on our screen, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.080 so it's like, I'm a mum and a wife. I'm 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.040 a mum and a wife. She's really hung her hat 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.920 on that. She's loved being a mum to the four girls, 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:03.880 and whenever she's been upset, that's you know, she's like, well, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.520 that's my biggest job in life is to be a 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.760 mom and to be a wife. So I think she's 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.480 struggling with that. I think to Eat and PK, it 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.000 is that power dynamic shift that you spoke about last week, 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.880 and we saw PK say I was the breadwinner and 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.359 we had this global jet setting lifestyle and you would 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.720 come along with me, and now you make me feel 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.800 less than But you know, I read some commentary online 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.160 and I thought that's such a good insight that basically 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.199 the takeaway from that is, well, now you prioritize our children, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.080 you don't prioritize me, and you have your own sort 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.159 of power and fame with this show. You don't need me. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.760 And so he's pissed about that. So I think the 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.080 Deret and PK is a bit separate than the Kyle 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.800 and Maurisio thing. I think she really loved him. He 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.280 hurt her in some way. She thought, I have to 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.320 take a stand, but I will want him to beg 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.280 to get me back. And I think she's upset that 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:57.120 hasn't happened. 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.360 No, I don't think he was going to beg for it. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.760 Where there's my fire. We heard so much for so 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.159 many years, for basically the entire run of Beverly Hills 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.119 or fourteen seasons. There's been rumors that he has been 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.600 cheating on Kyle, like you know, yes, So he's always 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.720 been like, I love you, look after the house, look 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.520 after our children, but I'm also setting up this business 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.879 and this empire and maybe having a little bit of 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.840 a diddle along the way. So she got sick of Ittte. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.639 She said stop that. And then he goes okay, and 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.639 then just adopts his new life, win his condo, and 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.239 she's like, oh fuck, I'm sorry, that's not exactly what 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:31.800 I wanted. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.400 Yes, that's what I think too. I think I think 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.040 she was expecting him to say, I will change, You're 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.720 worth it, I'll quit doing all these naughty things that 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.679 I shouldn't have been doing. You're my number one, you know, 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.679 And I just I can't see it happening. Meanwhile, she 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.920 was out with Morgan Wade and everything in a hot minute, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:50.840 so I don't think she can be too upset. It's 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.600 not like she was sitting there waiting around. I mean, 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.000 I'm pretty sure something happened with those two, if not 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.560 still happening. So it's all it's all very confusing. 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.640 Well, I think it's a little bit of you think 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.760