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Speaker 1: We are joined now by Costa Georgia Artists. Did I

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Speaker 1: say it right?

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Speaker 2: Costa said, like a true diaspora of the Greek world.

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Speaker 1: Makes a very very honest pretty much like a family member.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the role of the Yes, that's getting really traditional. Now.

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Speaker 1: Gardening Australia the Winter Specialist on seven thirty tonight on

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Speaker 1: the ABC.

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Speaker 3: What are we going to see? Because I always think, oh,

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Speaker 3: there's no good doing anything now we as well wait

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Speaker 3: until spring. But this isn't true, is it?

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Speaker 2: No, it's not true. And look, actually I am waving

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Speaker 2: or we are waving the West Australian flag in the

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Speaker 2: show story first story. Up are you guys into banksys couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Say that I'm an expert?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd know one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right. Well look we we go to the

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Speaker 2: and it's the interesting thing because you're you're living in

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Speaker 2: a by diversity hotspot over there in the Southwest that

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Speaker 2: the flora is just off the Richter scale on a

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Speaker 2: planetary significant level. And basically over at that Australian National

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Speaker 2: Botanic Gardens in Canberra, they were celebrating their fiftieth birthday

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Speaker 2: and they decided they wanted to have a special garden

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Speaker 2: dedicated to that. So they created a Banksier garden and

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Speaker 2: they wanted to get lots of your varieties, but your

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Speaker 2: varieties are so adapted to your ancient soils over there

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Speaker 2: that there's a lot of preparation and then the next

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Speaker 2: level of work. And this is a bit like whether

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Speaker 2: you're a auty or not. This is a bit that's

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Speaker 2: really cool because it goes right into those aspects of

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Speaker 2: biology and horticulture. So what they're doing is they were

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Speaker 2: taking your West Australian varieties which can't grow in the

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Speaker 2: heavier soils over here. They graft them on to the

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Speaker 2: native banksiers from this coast, from the East coast, and

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Speaker 2: then they bought crush. They made crush sandstone because that's

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Speaker 2: the kind of soil that they don't want to grow

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Speaker 2: in it in a rich soil, and they are going gangbusters,

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Speaker 2: and your banksies are so different. You've got a lot

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Speaker 2: of gray leaked ones, you've got ones with incredible red

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Speaker 2: and orange cones which are different to our. And on

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Speaker 2: top of that, the hawks over there are growing it

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Speaker 2: in Canberra and Canberra's climate is like extreme. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's freezing down there now and then it gets belting hot.

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Speaker 2: So we go and visit this garden and we tip

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Speaker 2: the lid to you guys over there and say, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is something incredibly significant and we want to celebrate

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Speaker 2: it at the National Botanic Garden. So it's a big

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Speaker 2: call out. And I'm really chucked at this story. I

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Speaker 2: did it. I did it last year in the midst

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Speaker 2: of the COVID, not just sort of in between, and

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Speaker 2: we've got a chance to travel and I went down

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Speaker 2: there and it's so nigh to talk about it. Like

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Speaker 2: I went up to King's Park the other week when

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Speaker 2: I was in town and like, it's amazing. I just

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Speaker 2: love your your plants there, they're They're unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: And side note, haughty might be my favorite new word.

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Speaker 3: I just caught that what.

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Speaker 4: I want to I want the T shirt is a

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Speaker 4: beautiful words about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on a Friday, settle Down.

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Speaker 4: I had a bloke at my place yesterday because we

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Speaker 4: were looking at it. He was he was looking at

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Speaker 4: the lawn and doing some stuff and he was an

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Speaker 4: expert on that. He was looking at my lemon tree,

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Speaker 4: which is struggling, and he said, you need sulfated pot ash.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not a horde, so he was talking another

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Speaker 4: language to me, What the hell does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a sulfate of potash is like it's almost like

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Speaker 2: the ashes that you get out of your fire. And

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Speaker 2: what that does is is encourage the plant to throw

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Speaker 2: flowers flowering. Flowering is a signal for plants to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to die, I better make flowers, which will

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Speaker 2: make fruit, which have seed, which will propagate the family.

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Speaker 2: So it kind of is a is a signal that

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Speaker 2: perhaps there was, like fire, the results exactly. It's nice,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Like when you And that's a bit that

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Speaker 2: I like about the work that we do on the show.

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Speaker 2: It's translating it to you guys out of all the

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Speaker 2: forty lingo and into into just normal language.

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Speaker 4: Well, I learned something from you and from him.

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Speaker 1: So, as you mentioned, you were just here recently, you're

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Speaker 1: going to be back here in August in one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite towns on Earth, Nanup. Now they live like

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Speaker 1: a nanop flowering garden festival nanap in itself? Is I mean,

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Speaker 1: does that just have a soil of its own as

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Speaker 1: well as that?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 3: You things happen there that don't happen anywhere else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you know they sort of take this winter

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Speaker 2: festival to the next level. And they've they've planted out

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Speaker 2: thousands and thousands, I think twenty five thousand bulbs to

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Speaker 2: really set the whole town alight with color. But then

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Speaker 2: you've got all the all the native forests down there.

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Speaker 2: They're again internationally significant, and going for a walk through

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Speaker 2: any of those whenever I go down there is just oh,

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Speaker 2: for someone like me, it's like a real pleasure. And

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Speaker 2: I suppose, I suppose it's nice to be able to

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Speaker 2: share that excitement for others to then see it.

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Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, absolutely, I would like to just to

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Speaker 4: what you've told us this morning, like toy, hand you

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Speaker 4: a LOGI. But congratulations on the sing Best Series nomination.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I'm really I'm really happy about that because

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Speaker 2: I mean, and we won. We're the carryover champions, so

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Speaker 2: you know, let's let's see if we can go back

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Speaker 2: to back the support of your listeners. But I think

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Speaker 2: I think what's cool is the fact that during the

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Speaker 2: last two years people really turned to gardening, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we were there, like the show was there to provide

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Speaker 2: to provide that that kind of outlet, and it's it's

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Speaker 2: been special to have done that during the lockdown, Like

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Speaker 2: the production team how they produced eighty episodes during you know,

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Speaker 2: from home. You know some people had to go in,

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Speaker 2: but but eighty episodes over that period, and yeah, get

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Speaker 2: to get the num is. I suppose from our point

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Speaker 2: of view, it's like, well, why shouldn't gardening an environment

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Speaker 2: be up there in the in the National Awards status quo?

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Speaker 2: And you know, after twenty nineteen when we won, it's

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Speaker 2: nice to be back up there and waving the flag.

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Speaker 1: I think gardening was extremely important during the lockdown. It

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Speaker 1: kept people saying they got right into it or they

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Speaker 1: started embraced it for the first time, and now they're

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Speaker 1: going to keep it going because they have.

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Speaker 3: To, because once you start, you've got to keep going. Costa.

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Speaker 2: We look forward at get them Addicted, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we look forward to tonight's Winter special, seven thirty

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Speaker 1: tonight on the ABC.

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Speaker 3: Lovely to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: As it always is, say naughty, haughty, yesterday, haughty.

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Speaker 4: So much is joining us this morning?

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Speaker 1: Best word ever?

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Speaker 3: I want to be a As.

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Speaker 4: Soon as he said I'm going, We're going to get

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Speaker 4: T shirts. Yep,