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Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with Jones.

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Speaker 2: Oh hello, Anthony, I've been in tears all day. How

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Speaker 2: are you feeling?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Good morning. Well it's been quite a quite a shock,

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Speaker 1: even though the Queen of course led such a long life,

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Speaker 1: but was as if she would be with us forever.

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Speaker 1: So when I received the call very early this morning

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Speaker 1: to expect a call from the Governor General and was

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Speaker 1: put on a bit of notice, it was quite a shock.

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Speaker 2: It is, isn't it. I mean ninety six. As I've said,

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Speaker 2: this was like a train of grief coming at us.

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Speaker 2: But it's still such a shock. What's the protocol? What

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Speaker 2: things processes do you have to go through now?

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Speaker 1: Well, there were substantial processes during the evening and there

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Speaker 1: is processes established, including where set up a condolence book

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Speaker 1: in Parliament House and that Government house. We have notified

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Speaker 1: to notify the former prime ministers of the sad news.

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Speaker 1: There was protocol in place for a long period of time.

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Speaker 1: So the Governor General was the first to issue a statement,

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Speaker 1: after the royal family and the Palace, and then I

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Speaker 1: was to assure a statement an hour later, and then

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Speaker 1: we both had statements, video televised statements as well. But

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Speaker 1: the Governor General to be first. Of course, today there's

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Speaker 1: a range of procedures being put in place. I write

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Speaker 1: to King Charles the Third as he will be known,

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Speaker 1: expressing the nation's condolence, and we have some other procedures,

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Speaker 1: the right to the presiding offices because of the period

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Speaker 1: of mourning, putting off a Parliament which won't return next week.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we have a replaying at Queen's Terrace in Parliament House,

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Speaker 1: and then on Sunday, this hasn't been confirmed yet, but

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Speaker 1: we will have the proclamation of our new head of

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Speaker 1: State after an Executive Council meeting at Government House. There's

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Speaker 1: a range of measures kicking, but today's main day, I think,

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Speaker 1: is really for us to just celebrate a life well lived,

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Speaker 1: a life of devotion to duty, family, faith and service.

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Speaker 1: I believe that Queen Elizabeth was respected by all for

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Speaker 1: the extraordinary devotion that she showed to duty.

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Speaker 3: And I can only imagine the amount of paperwork just

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Speaker 3: even in changing stuff like from coins to commemorative plates

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Speaker 3: to pictures in scout halls.

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Speaker 1: Well, our coins will change, I'm advised, it's one of

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Speaker 1: the advices that I've got will change from twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three so from next year. There are a range of measures,

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Speaker 1: of course, have been put in place for some time,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time it was as if the

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Speaker 1: Queen would continue to reign forever. She was a constant

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Speaker 1: in all of our lives. Is the only monarch who

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Speaker 1: we have known the Purple in on this conversation, of course,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that she arranged for seventy years. Our

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Speaker 1: federation is only one hundred and twenty one years old,

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Speaker 1: so for a clear overwhelming majority of that Queen Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: has been the head of state extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: Did you meet the Queen?

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Speaker 1: I did. I traveled to London for the first G

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Speaker 1: twenty meeting the twelve twenty largest economies in the world

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Speaker 1: during the global financial crisis. The first meeting that was

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Speaker 1: held and the Queen and the royal family held a

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Speaker 1: reception at Buckingham Palace, and she was delightful to meet.

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Speaker 1: She made sure that after the formal lineup and handshakes

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Speaker 1: and curtsies were undertaken in the informal reception, she made

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Speaker 1: sure that she said hello to every single person who

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Speaker 1: was there. I think there were three people from me

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Speaker 1: each country, so that's sixty people. Because she gave time

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Speaker 1: to and one of the things that really warmed people

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Speaker 1: to Queen Elizabeth was the way that she would engage

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Speaker 1: with not just world leaders, but just members of the community.

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Speaker 1: And in her many visits to Australia, she was of

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Speaker 1: course the first monarch to visit Australia way back in

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four, and on that occasion, seven million Australians

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Speaker 1: out of a population of ten million went out there

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Speaker 1: to try to see her, which just says something about

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Speaker 1: the affection that she was held in and people wanted

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Speaker 1: to get a glimpse of the queen. And she visited

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Speaker 1: during that tour I think it was fifty eight days

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Speaker 1: or thereabouts, since she visited the same number of towns

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Speaker 1: and cities during that period, so it wasn't just the

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Speaker 1: capital city, so it was right around the through every

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Speaker 2: She worked hard, didn't she.

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Speaker 1: She certainly did work very, very hard. She worked right

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Speaker 1: up until the end when, of course the Kingdom have

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Speaker 1: a new Prime Minister there in Liz Trust and the

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Speaker 1: fifteenth Prime Minister who has served under Queen Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, isn't it, Winston Churchill inredible.

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Speaker 3: But it's almost like that movie Highlander when we don't

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Speaker 3: know any different, and that's the one in depth. It's

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Speaker 3: the constant that Queen Elizabeth has been there for everyone,

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Speaker 3: and whether you're a monarchist or a republican, you appreciate

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Speaker 3: that legacy absolutely.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. You know, this is above politics. She

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Speaker 1: can be respective for who she was and for that

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Speaker 1: sense of devotion that she had is worthy of incredible admiration.

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Speaker 1: And she during the period there were fifteen British prime ministers,

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Speaker 1: but sixteen Australian Prime ministers and sixteen Governors generals. The

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Speaker 1: world too that we live in, as we know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: express them frustration with because it's so fast changing and

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Speaker 1: the constant, the sort of one constant in global affairs,

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Speaker 1: has been the reign of Queen Elizabeth, seven long decades.

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Speaker 2: Will you be heading to England?

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Speaker 1: Yes. The protocol is that myself and the Governor General

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Speaker 1: will represent Australia. There'll be a whole series of protocols

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Speaker 1: in place. This afternoon at five pm there is what

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Speaker 1: is formerly known as a deathsolute to the monarch that

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Speaker 1: will occur here in the outside of Palm Housing in

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Speaker 1: Canberra and around the lake. Ninety six rounds one for

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Speaker 1: every year of Queen Elizabeth's long life.

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Speaker 3: Have worn the residents around there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it will go. I'm advised it will go for

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Speaker 1: sixteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It is. But there's a whole series of protocols come

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Speaker 1: in now and there is something to be said for tradition.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and ritual and protocols. I think so too. I

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Speaker 2: think that's part of the stability that that provides.

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Speaker 3: Well, Prime Minister, you've got a lot of paperwork to do.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with the condolence letters and have a safe flight.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you. Thank you very much.