1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week I'll interview 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as they're lows, 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to furiously fail. 7 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Right. 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Oh, we have a ripper guest on the pod for 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: you today. Think comedic Royalty here, Ursula Carlson, stand up 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: comic presenter, author, All over you italy on Have you 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: been paying attention the mass singer Netflix special, got an 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: amazing Netflix special out, got a book out, Rolling with 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: the Punchlines in an animated movie next year. As one 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: of the voices, brilliant Ted Talk. We talk about not 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: having regrets coming into this career mid thirties, which I 16 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: find so inspiring, about to do an Aussie tour as well. 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I hope you love this chat. I could have talked 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: all day long to this incredible human being. In fact, 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: when we hit stop at the end of this interview, 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: you'll hear we just kept chatting, and so we've kept 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: it in the pod. I hope you are as inspired 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: as I am by this incredible human being. I'm going 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: to start this podcast by saying, I am so friggin 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: nervous right now. Urschela Cox, Oh nearly, I effed up 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: your second name straight out of the gate, so I've 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: left it straight up. Carlson. You are an epic stand 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: up comedian. You have a hilarious podcast, You're a presenter, 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: you're an author. I've just found out you're the voice 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: on a new animated movie, Holy Mackerel. Do you stop? 30 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Like? 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: Do you ever stop? 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: I hope not. Honestly scares me more than death. 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: I've heard you say that before, and I can I 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: would probably agree with you there. But can I just 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: say I was more nervous to interview you than any 36 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: other guest I've had on this podcast. 37 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: Do you know why? 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: So I've had an azema on your mate. Uh, And 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: but I get so scared of comedians because your brain 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: is so quick and my brain like catches up and 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: I've and that same radio hosts of the same they 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: talk so beautifully. But your brain feels like it's like 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: five seconds faster than mine. And your wit is insanely amazing. 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: And that's why I get so nervous. 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just so you know, it's mainly noise. Nothing 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: goes through the brain. It just pops out of her 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: mouth and then later we think about it. It's not 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 2: a simultaneous process. 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: Well take it as a gift, I reckon. My first 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: memory of you is I was in Melbourne watching Have 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: you been Paying Attention? Feels like quite a few years 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: ago now, I feel like you've been on it for 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: a while, and I was like, hold on, who is 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: this human being? You were so fast you were had 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: me in hysterics every time you spoke. You and Sampang 56 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: were always like if either of you were on the panel. 57 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm in. I'm in for the entire show, 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: and so thank you. I know I'm just pretty much 59 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: blabbering out compliments right now, but I think you're Amazon. 60 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: Honestly with that show, like I would think. You know, 61 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: when you watch a show and you go, Sometimes you 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: watch something you go, I don't know why the concept's great, 63 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: I should like it, but I don't, And then other 64 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: things you go like that show is basically just you know, 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: it's a quick show about the week, and we're not 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: paying attention. So that's kind of the and you go, oh, 67 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: and principle, it shouldn't work, but because everyone gets on 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: so well, and I think people at home can fill 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: the chemistry. Sometimes you watch a show and you go, 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: it shouldn't make sense, but it does. I love it. 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: And if you just had to read the concept for 72 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: that show, you go, no one's going to buy this ship. 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: No one's gonna buy this ship. But then they just 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: they have a knack of putting people together that just work. 75 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes you go, why is this person on the panel, 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: and you go, well, if they weren't there, it wouldn't work. 77 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: The chemistry just wouldn't work, you know. 78 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: And you've done you to the New Zealand one as well, right, 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: you're on both. Oh look at you. 80 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah on the I said in Ed Cavalley's seat, you 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: do our one. Yeah, I'm the I love it. It's something. 82 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: The chemistry is just great. It was our host is 83 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: Harley Sprow, You've got a young lady, and then then 84 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Vaughan Smith is our and Sam's seat. But it's just, 85 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: you know, like it's just so so much fun to do. 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Really, I really want to ask you about South Africa 87 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: because I heard you tell the story of like this 88 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: kind of like penny drop moment of what made you go, 89 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: fuck this, I'm getting out, I want to be safe, 90 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: I want to go something. So you're at work, there 91 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: was an arm robbery with like AK forty sevens. Is 92 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: that right? 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 94 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you share a bit about that story? 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: Oh, there was just I mean, I'll wait for the newspaper. 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: So the whole you know, like if you go to 97 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: South Africa and you see the businesses state have appropriate security. 98 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: It's not like in Australia or New Zealand where you 99 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: can just walk into a business. A lot of it 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: you have to sort of buzz or and then they 101 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: will let you in. This enough security everywhere at businesses. 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: So because the newspaper, our whole thing is it has 103 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: to be open, you know. Yeah, and for you know, 104 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: our business is people. So people would come in all 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 2: the time. And one morning I was a production manager, 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: so I was there at seven o'clock in the morning. 107 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 2: There weren't a lot of us in thankfully that early. 108 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: And then yeah, these guys just came in with AK 109 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: forty seven's and held us up and took our car 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: keys and our wallets and some phones and you know, jewelry. 111 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: And then they stripped us and locked us in the 112 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: bathroom in our underwear, which is quite common. When that happened, 113 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: it happened at the liquor saw where I work too, 114 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: but I wasn't there, so but it's quite common, you know, 115 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: just sort of lock you in your underpants because then 116 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: nobody goes after you, no one runs after you, which 117 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: but then, yeah, I just I just knew, you know, 118 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: I there were a few things. I just saw. I 119 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: can't live in this country. I don't want to raise 120 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: my kids in this country. And then I saw an 121 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: ad in the paper that said do you want to 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: Emma right? And I saw I do and it said 123 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: why not New Zealand? And I literally three months after 124 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: I saw that ad, I sold my car, I saw 125 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: my house, I sold everything, and I just got on 126 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: a plane and I moved to New Zealand. I didn't 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: have a offer. I came in sneaky on a visitors permit, 128 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: got a job offer and stayed. I love it. That 129 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: was in two thousand and six. 130 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: And then so you're in New Zealand, you're working, I 131 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: want to say it an advertising agency, is that right? 132 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: And yeah, I work for Ogilver. 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, and you're working next to your mate 134 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: Leon and he's like, Yo, you're really funny. I think 135 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: you should do stand up and you're like, huh yeah. 136 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean because if you're familiar with advertising hours, it 137 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: is insane. Like we used to work between ten and 138 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: fifteen hours a day, six days a week. He's a deadline. 139 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure and advertising and you know 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: a lot of sort of you know, corporates and bullshit. 141 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: So you know, when you work in a high pressure environment, 142 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: all it does like it creates diamonds number one, but 143 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: number two, make sure that you're staff becomes really tight, 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: like this is you basically form a gang. Because she 145 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: goes down and you're a management you're fucked because we 146 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: will take over that company at the drop of a hat, 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: like because you sort of it's almost like you're pushing 148 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: people in the corner and they ready to fight, like 149 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: they are arming themselves. Like so we were real tight, 150 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: all of us. And then we used to because I 151 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: sat right at the window that looked out at the 152 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: car park as people would walk in across the road 153 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: and I would I would choose like walking music for them, 154 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: and when like by the time they got in, I 155 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: had a gag for them, like nicely the pants Roy 156 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: Like there was this one guy and Roy hawways wore 157 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: leather pants and he's like fifty, you know, like and 158 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: all this stuff. So we just used to riff people 159 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: and just had the greatest time in between working off 160 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: and Leon was like, Ship, you're so funny. You have 161 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: to do these stand up But now, I've never even 162 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: been to a stand up show. I didn't know what 163 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: it was. I'd never never you know. I mean, obviously 164 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: it's kind of self explanatory the concept, but I've never 165 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: been to a live show. Like the first live show 166 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: I ever attended was the one that I was doing. 167 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Wow. And so can you talk to me about this contract? 168 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: Leon made? 169 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 2: Dig it out. I've got it somewhere, yeah, because he 170 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: did like a proper, proper mock up on cardboard and everything. 171 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: All the agencies he made it. So I got head 172 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: on a hundred to go over to Win, which is 173 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: a different ad agency, and Leon made this fake contract 174 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: to go do open mic night, and I mean I 175 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: got a coffee little coffee maker too. But he made 176 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: he made this this big card that everyone had signed 177 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: and on the inside. It had this contract to say 178 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: that I would go and do this open mic night, 179 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: and I had to sign it in front of everyone, 180 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: and and I've already had a few drinks in and 181 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: he had booked it in for that Monday, this is 182 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: the Friday, and booked it in for that Monday, so 183 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: there was no time to panic or anything. And he 184 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: had booked seats for seventy people in the like you 185 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: just seen out a group of Youhmile saying it's just 186 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: going to do stand up. He's coming. And seventy people 187 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: signed up for it, and he booked tables for seventy 188 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: of them. And then come that Monday, I went and 189 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: I did it like I was on Saint Patrick's Day. 190 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: So I wrote a little four minute spiel of what 191 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: I thought was funny, and I just sat in my 192 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: car after work till like eight o'clock that not, just 193 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: memorizing what I was going to say. Then I went in. 194 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: They were all sitting there in this long room with 195 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: other people of course that I don't know, like I 196 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: think there's it was a sellout, so it would have 197 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: been like one hundred and eighty people in the room. 198 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: That's pretty huge. If you've never done stand up before. 199 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we scared. Oh I was petrified. I can still 200 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: to this day remember every of that night. You know, 201 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: when something big, I guess, like to me, that would 202 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: be the same like as like jumping out of a plane, 203 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: or you know, just something massive that happens and you go. 204 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: I will remember this moment for forever. I could hear 205 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: the blood going through my bright like that's how everything 206 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: was just super heightened. I could hear my heart beating. 207 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: I was walking from side of stage to the microphone, 208 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: which to this day is still the longest walk on 209 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: the planet for me. And as I walked out, I 210 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: thought they gonna hear my heart like I could hear 211 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: I could feel my heart. I thought they were gonna 212 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: hear it. And then when I got to the mic stand, 213 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: I realized I've never taken a mic out of a 214 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: mic stand. I don't know how it works. I know 215 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: I've never held a microphone, you know. So then that 216 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: in that little scuffle of me and the microphone, I 217 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: forgot everything that I was going to say, and I 218 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: panicked and I looked at them and you know, sort 219 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: of and my scuff I was like shit, it was 220 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: hard and then they started laughing. And then I looked 221 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: at them and they were all in green because it 222 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: was Saint Patrick's Day and it was sort of the 223 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: start of the evening for most of them, and I 224 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: I just started, I said, oh, you look right. Green 225 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: is my favorite color, but I can't wear it because 226 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: I look like Shrek. But I sincerely said that to 227 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: someone as a conversation, but into the mic, but not 228 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: you know, like just trying to say to myself. And 229 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: then they were all laughing, and then it sort of 230 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: it just kind of because then someone went oh, and 231 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 2: I went, you know, so then I sort of by 232 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: the time they stopped laughing for their first gag, then 233 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: I kind of remembered what I was going to say, 234 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: but my leg wouldn't stop shaking. I just had this 235 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 2: involuntary and I nearly bent that mic stand it was. 236 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: It was nerve wracking, man. I can still remember the smell. 237 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: Of it, so visceral. I don't know how I feel 238 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: like it would be the most courageous and brave thing, 239 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: like it would petrify the order, it would petrify me. 240 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: So is it true you just thought of that was 241 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: like a one and done. You were like, okay, done 242 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: my stand up, done that, and then then you got 243 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: a call from like the guy running the night. 244 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So so in my mind, this is skydiving. 245 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: You know, I really want to go skydiving, and then 246 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: you go skydiving, and then you go take that off 247 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: the bucket list. I've been skydiving, you know, like it's done. 248 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: You don't need to do that. You don't skydive every 249 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: fucking day. You just want to do it once, right. 250 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, I'm gone, and I had 251 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: a few drinks and then the next day I get 252 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: a call from the owner of the club saying I'm 253 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: through to the next round. And I'm like, what it's 254 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: the It's like the start of the comedy festival. They've 255 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: got to think called raw request. Yeah, and they look 256 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: for new talent and I'm through to the next round 257 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: and I go, oh shit, No, I'm not interested in comedy. 258 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: I said. I did it as a work thing. It 259 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: was like a a a group thing for work. And 260 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: I said, I'm not interested in comedy. I'm already nailing life. 261 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: I said, you give that to someone who's interested in comedy, 262 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: and he's like, you were so good. I said, mate, 263 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: I knew seventy people in that audience. I said, that's 264 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: I said. They were all laughing because they all knew me, 265 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: and he goes, I was in the room. I was laughing, 266 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: I don't know you. He goes, you should come back. 267 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: It's a great opportunity. And because I don't believe in 268 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: missing opportunities, I was like, shit, I'm going to have 269 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: to go back. So I didn't tell anyone. I didn't 270 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: even tell Leon because I had started at the new 271 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: agency at this point, so there was no one, you know, 272 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: and I'd only been in the country relatively knew you know, 273 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: it's a couple of years in and I thought, man, 274 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: no one knows me. It doesn't matter. If i'm my 275 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: consider of myself, you're going to go back and do 276 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: it again. So I wrote a new four minutes because 277 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: I thought that's how it worked. Every time you go 278 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: you have to write new material. So I went back 279 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: to it again. They were still laughing, but even if 280 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: I weren't laughing, I would have gone back. Was then 281 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: after that second time, I was just hooked. It was 282 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: just a yeah. I was like, Io, God, this is amazing. Ah, 283 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: I love that. 284 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much just sharing that story because I 285 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: love the way you describe that. I've I feel like 286 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: your style of stand up is that storytelling kind of style. 287 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: I've recently been in Los Angeles and I went to 288 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: a few stand up gigs and I was petrified for 289 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the performance that I get picked on, 290 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: and because I'm the only Aussie in the audience, I'm like, oh, 291 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: here we go, token Azsie, I'm about to get ripped 292 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: to shreds. And I spent like the better part of 293 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: the evening just petrified, purely petrified. And I like that 294 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: your whole ethos is not to pick on your audience. 295 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Can you share a bit about that? 296 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess like it just from the 297 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: get go. Also because I don't I didn't know anything 298 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: about stand up, so I didn't know the rules. I 299 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: didn't know what people did or know that that was 300 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: even a thing to destroy the you know, the audience. 301 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: I was like, why the fuck did you do that? 302 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: But what I do know? And I think because I 303 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: hadn't been to a stand up show, and the reason 304 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: I had it because I mean, I was already in 305 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: my mid thirties at this point, and the reason I 306 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: hadn't been is because in my mind, when my mum 307 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: was in her twenties, she went to a comedy show 308 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: and she sat in the front and the guy ripped 309 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: her to shreds because she wore glasses and she just 310 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: like she did, so she she didn't get a taste 311 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: for comedy at all, so she used to talk about 312 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: that all the time. So I just went, oh, I'm 313 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: not going to pick up my audience. They come to 314 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: see the show, not be the show. Plus, you don't 315 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: know what goes on in people's lives. You know. People 316 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: go to a comedy show because they go, I've had 317 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: the shittest week I've had that I just need to 318 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: go have a wine, relax and not think about my 319 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: shitty life for an hour. And there you go in 320 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: there and someone you don't know humiliates you in front 321 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: of a room full of people you also done, like 322 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: what why would you do that? Like you don't know 323 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: you could be the thing that pushes someone over the edge. 324 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: That's not my job. My job is to make sure 325 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: you have a great nod, that you me feeling better 326 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: than you did when you came in, not question your 327 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: own life, going what the fuck is you know, like 328 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: and most of the things things that I see people 329 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: getting ripped for, I'm like, it's literally stuff they can't help, Like, 330 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: what the fuck is so tall? It's like this kind 331 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: of makes himself, you know, Yet, why are you climbing 332 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: into this guy? 333 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: I think if she had a story of like a 334 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: guy came to one of your shows and you knew 335 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: it was a salotute show, but the seat next to 336 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: him was empty, and you always mingle with your audience 337 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: after and he came up to you and shared that 338 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: that was his dad's ticket. 339 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in an Adelaide and I 340 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: think it was Adelaide, and I knew the show is 341 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: sold out, you know, like because you get the reports, 342 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: so you know that there shouldn't be empty seats. Yeah, 343 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: and there was a guy sitting right in front by 344 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: himself and the seat just empty. So I was like, Okay, 345 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna not gonna dwell on that, not gonna 346 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: ask me your mate, you'll know, mate. Yeah, just moved 347 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: on with it. Then after the show went out and 348 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: he came up and he goes I was sitting in 349 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: the front. Of course I recognized him. He was sitting 350 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: in front front, like, he goes, I bought tickets for 351 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: my dad and I had to come and see your show. 352 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: He loved you, he goes, And then he died this morning, 353 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: he says, and I didn't know if I should come, 354 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: you know, he goes. I didn't know what to do, 355 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: and then I thought, no, Dad would have wanted me 356 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: to come. So I come to the shop on myself. 357 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: I didn't want to give the ticket away, and I 358 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: was like, holy shit, Like, you know, can you imagine 359 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: if I climbed into him, what a day? What a 360 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: day for him? Yeah. 361 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: I really love that he came up. I love that 362 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: he came to the show. I love that he was like, 363 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing this kind of because my dad would want 364 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: me here, you know. 365 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: I love. 366 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: I also love your Ted talk, my friend, that Ted 367 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: talk where you talk about no regrets. Oh, mate, Like, 368 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: you probably don't know this about me, but I'm a 369 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: nutritionist by trade, and I've just turned thirty six. I 370 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: spent the last six months in LA training as an actor, 371 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: and I've been training for the last year or so. 372 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: But a lot of people like you're too old to 373 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: change careers. It's the feedback I get all the time 374 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: but I don't want to have regrets. 375 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yours. 376 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: But your story is you Was it thirty three when 377 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: you did that open mic night? 378 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thirty three and. 379 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: Full circle here. But to go back to the Ted talk. 380 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: Was it a teacher that taught you about having no regrets? 381 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was. I was a bit of a 382 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: handful at school. I'll be honestly, I was a bit 383 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: out of control. And I was a bit because I'm 384 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: very I've got a very strong will and as you know, 385 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: like my mom always goes, it's hard. It's hard to 386 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: raise a kid with a strong will, but it makes 387 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 2: it for a great adult. But you have to you know, 388 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: sort of playoff throw. But so, as I think it 389 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: was like sixteen, I'd just been expelled from boarding school 390 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: and I went to this school just a normal you know, 391 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: from from homeschool. And you know, like within my first month, 392 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: I had this homeroom teacher and she she helped me back. 393 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: She's like, you know, from class. It was quite a 394 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: quite a construnting, aggressive class. And you know, I was 395 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: going her and I was going to class and I 396 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: just wasn't taking any shit. And she said to me, 397 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: there's no greater waste of time than regret. That's it. 398 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: Like she didn't try to preach to me. She didn't. 399 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: She just said that. And in that minute, the second 400 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: she said it, it's like I could hear a penny 401 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: job and I was like, yeah, like that makes sense 402 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: to me, and I I you know, like different people 403 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: have different things that make their penny job, but to me, 404 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: that was it. I was like, yeah, you're one hundred 405 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: percent right. And so that kind of change the whole 406 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: trajectory of my life. And from then on, I just 407 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: I just went, yeah, I'm just going to embrace everything. 408 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to regret stuff. I'm not going to 409 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: do stuff that's going to make me want to regret stuff. 410 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna, you know, sort of try to you know, don't. 411 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: I don't want to say like living my best life, 412 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: but basically that and just grabbing every opportunity that I can. 413 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of times because my brother 414 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: once said to me, goes, you're lucky, you get all 415 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: of the all of the opportunities, and I'm like, no, 416 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: I'm just ready, you know, I'm just I'm open to it. 417 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: I hear when people when there's an offer, I hear 418 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: when when I get a challenge and I take it, 419 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: you know, And that's the difference. On a side note, 420 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: I quickly on to tell her I found that teacher 421 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: so after the tech talk, and the tech Talk is 422 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: sort of one of those slow burned things that you 423 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: don't know how it's going to impact other people's lives, 424 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: but then sort of out of the woodworks. Every now 425 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: and again, I just get this amazing story where people 426 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: will send me a thing like there's this one kid 427 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: who came out of Juvi and he tattooed it all 428 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: up his body, the side of his body, and he's like, 429 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: I've been out of JUVI for like four years and 430 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: I saw your tech talk. It's one of the things 431 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: that they played fast at JUVI and he goes, Dad, 432 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: has completely changed my life. So he had that tattooed. 433 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: There's no greater waste of time than regret. So anyway, 434 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 2: but there's been a few stories like that, right, And 435 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: then I thought, you know, I know this teacher's name 436 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: and it's kind of a very common name in South Africa. 437 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: But I'm going to look her up. I'm going to 438 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: see if I can find her. I googled her and 439 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: the person that came up was her and she she's 440 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: a child or a youth psychologist in South Africa. She 441 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: works with troubled teens. Now, I she's really sort of 442 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: hit her neck there. So I emailed her and I said, look, 443 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: you won't remember me. I said, I was in your 444 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: homeroom and when I was sixteen years old you helped 445 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: me back one day you told me this, and this 446 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: has changed the you know, total trajectory of my life. 447 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: This is the link to my ted talk. This is 448 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: all that. And then I sent a heaps of photos 449 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: and screen grabs with the permission of the people that 450 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: she did with me, of the lives that she has changed. 451 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: I said, this is all the people that that I 452 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: could remember now, you know, because people Again, here is 453 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: some of my in box. I said, So this is 454 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: just some of the stuff. And I want you to 455 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: know that you are making a difference, because I think 456 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: it's important to tell people. So I said, you know, 457 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: you don't need to reply. I just want you to 458 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: know you're making a difference. So she sent me email 459 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: back and she said, I do remember you. She said, 460 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: I know exactly where you're sitting in my class. She says, 461 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: I will never forget you. This is because I was 462 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 2: never a teacher. She was only a homeroom teacher, and 463 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: she was only ever a teacher for one term, which 464 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: is three months, while she was studying to become a psychologist, 465 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: and then the teacher that was supposed to be the 466 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: homeroom teacher, because I didn't know what went on there. 467 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: I was just brand new in that school, and apparently 468 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: that teacher had to leave for some medical thing, so 469 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: she just came in and filled in for one term 470 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: and then left. But she never taught a class or anything. 471 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: She was just a homeroom teacher. She goes. So I 472 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: was only ever a teacher for three months, so the 473 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: chances of me crossing paths with you was so minute, 474 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: she goes, But I do remember, because you were the 475 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: only problem. Yeah, so I was sort of stayed in 476 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: touch with her, and it's it's really been amazing. 477 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: I love it. You also mentioned that Ted talk about 478 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: spotting opportunity, and you've said in a few interviews, like 479 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: you're good at hustling, but you don't go out and chase. 480 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: You're just open and like you said before, ready for 481 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: the opportunity. And I like this concept of spotting the 482 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: opportunity because I think we can get in our own 483 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: way every now and then and like self doubt and 484 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff can creep in. Can you 485 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: share a little bit about like how spotting opportunity has 486 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: worked for you because now you're a voice in an 487 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: animated movie. 488 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great that's actually a good bis. So, 489 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean when I started doing stand up so I'm 490 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: from I worked as a typesetter and naturally and then 491 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: as a graphic designer, as an artist, as a you know, 492 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: and then I become a photo retoucher and it just 493 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: kind of so all designed creative, right, So then from 494 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: there getting them to stand up. So I thought, okay, 495 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: I'm a stand up comedian. That's what I did. And 496 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: then someone said, oh, they want to send me a 497 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: script for a movie, and what one of the characters 498 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: need to be funnier than she is, but she's not 499 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 2: funny at the minute. Would I change someone? And I 500 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I guess I'm right now. And then 501 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: so I did that, and then that led to more 502 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: of that and then you know, so it's sort of 503 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 2: just and and there's been others. There's been like radio stuff, 504 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: and there's been so Then during the pandemic, I because 505 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: I hate going for auditions. I've only ever been for 506 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: two auditions. Then I got the offer to go to 507 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: do the voiceover thing, and I was like, but they 508 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 2: wanted me to audition for it, and I I hate it. 509 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: I hate it so much. I hate going for auditions. 510 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm like nerve wracking, you kind of know, you know. 511 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: To me, it's like because I'm not motivated by money 512 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: at all at all. Like I know I could make 513 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: more money if I do ads, but I don't want to. 514 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: You don't advertise at all, do you. 515 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: No? I love it, no, And I you know, because 516 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm not motivated by money, so a massive strengths you know, 517 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: for me personally. So anyway, so they go, we want 518 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 2: you to audition. They went, no, I'm all right, you know, 519 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: either you either you want me or you don't. You 520 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: have no you know my voice, you know my work, 521 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: it's out there. If you want me for the role, 522 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: have me. But if you don't, then and they go, 523 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: can you at least just read these lines? And I 524 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: went okay. And then but the day that I was 525 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: supposed to do it, I was in the accident and 526 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: I broke my collarbine and I had to go to 527 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: a hospital, so I missed it. And then I was like, oh, well, sorry, guys, 528 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: I can't do it. I'm so high on these drugs 529 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: that they gave me that I can't speak English anymore. 530 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: Because that's the thing. If English is your second language, 531 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: the minute you're drugged up, drunk or tired, it goes. 532 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 2: So I'm like, I can't do it. I'm afraid. And 533 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: then the next week they came back and they went, 534 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: you know what, just take the take their role. And 535 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: then I thought, okay, I've never done an animated thing. 536 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: I've never done a voice over for anything. I'm in 537 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: this little boothe by myself, and now you have that thing, 538 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: and like you say, you're getting your own way and 539 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: where was handbrakes? And I was like, okay, So you 540 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: don't want to look like a deck, right, that's the 541 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: number one thing most people go, I don't want to 542 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: look like a deck. I don't want to I don't 543 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: want to fail. I don't want to Okay, we don't 544 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: want to look like a deck, and we don't want 545 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: to fail. Those two things cannot be in the same room. 546 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: They just cannot say anyway. So I'm like, you know what, 547 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: I'm in this little booth. There's a zoom screen in 548 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: front of me. All of the people, the director, the writer, 549 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: the producers, they all sitting at their zoom screens like 550 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: this looking at me. I'm going to I'm like, you 551 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: know what balls to the wall? Mate? You know? I 552 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: just I did the voice over for this thing, and 553 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: it was the most fun I had. They were how 554 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: like it was sound like the sound was off obviously, 555 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: but I could see them laugh. But I thought, it 556 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: doesn't matter because I'm having a great time with this character. 557 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: No one that's going to watch that movie is going 558 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: to know what happened in that sound boost. They're just 559 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: going to go, that was great, you know, like they're 560 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: going to get full hundred percent effort for that. And 561 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: I when I watch it then, ill, no, I gave 562 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: a full hundred percent effort. I saw myself around that 563 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: sound boost. I you know, if if my little rhino 564 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: fell down, I fell down in that booth, you know, 565 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: like everything and. 566 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: Did you really, yeah, that's amazing. 567 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: If it ran into a tree, I ran into this 568 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: and I forget it and all that stuff. I just 569 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: I had such a great time and then afterwards they 570 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: were like that was one hundred percent effort, like that 571 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: was amazing, just you know, and I yeah, I just 572 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 2: I felt good about it. I will never regret doing it, 573 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: but that was you know, and you know, to. 574 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: Be able to soak that up. Your kids are gonna 575 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: love that movie, you know, And it isn't Donald Sutherland. 576 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 1: I saw in it as well, like yes, with the 577 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Cream of the Crop. My friend like, oh, that's one 578 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: of my dreams. I think it would be so incredible. 579 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: And like when I found this out about you, I 580 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, my goodness, this just makes perfect perfect sense. 581 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: You've got such a wonderful voice. You've got this really 582 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: cool accent too that is like iconically your own. It's 583 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: such a hybrid, and so I think this is the 584 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: beginning of many an animated I think it'd be amazing. 585 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: I love watching the bts of like act like Bradley 586 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: Cooper in Guardians of the Galaxy because he plays this 587 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: little I think he's like a little not a weasly thing, 588 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: but it's like a little foxy thing. And it's so 589 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: much fun to see the actors just like you said, 590 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: like get hit or like get this. 591 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: They get so. 592 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: Into it as these incredible and so I can't wait. 593 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: I am so pumped. I know that comes out next 594 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: year and I can not wait to see that fast. 595 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 2: Honestly, I felt like I was that little rhino, like 596 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: I yeah, I like when I left, I was like, 597 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: that's her and I would we would all even my 598 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: management would refer to her exactly. I love it. 599 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: I want to chat about therapy. I know you've done 600 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: quite a few hotel quarantines and I heard this. I 601 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: think you were talking to will Anderson and you were like, 602 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: they wouldn't give me a coffee mug like you had these, 603 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: and I've done my I've done hotel quarantine as well, 604 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: and I'd learned about the mug things. So I had 605 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: packed my own mug and like my own knives and 606 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: wrapped in suitcase beforehand, bought salt, pep other works. But 607 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: I heard you talk about like having a therapist as 608 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: a check in, yes, throughout like quarantine and the year, 609 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, the COVID times that we've had, but also 610 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: just I've heard you say like as an adult, just 611 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: having a therapist as an adult. Can you share a 612 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: little bit about why you're pro therapy. 613 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: I just I just think if if you're a ground 614 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: up as adult, we all have stuff. It doesn't matter 615 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: what your childhood was like, if you were you know 616 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: your parents, maybe you know your parents loved you so 617 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: much that you sort of feel now that you're out 618 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: in the wild world by yourself, there's not that kind 619 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: of support. Then you need a therapist to sort of 620 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: guide you through that. There's so much shit that happens 621 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: every day that you have to process, and you're one 622 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: human being processing everyone else's shit and your own shit. 623 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: You need help. It's like you can't expect to buy 624 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: a brand new car and drive that thing for ninety 625 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: years and not once get a service, oil change, or nothing. 626 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: You got to you have to have help. You know, 627 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: you've got to have even if it's just a neutral 628 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: sounding board. When you say because you know you could 629 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: be the problem. You don't know if you don't go 630 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: for therapy or you don't check in with someone, that's neutral. 631 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: Because if you have a problem, say with your partner, whatever, 632 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: you talk to your friends and they go, he is 633 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: out of line. You're only gonna you know, bias. Yeah, 634 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: you know, you're only gonna hear what you need to 635 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: hear in that minute. But sometimes you need a therapist 636 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: to go no, you're you're the problem. And sometimes you 637 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: shop around to get honest, you know, like don't just 638 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: go the first one and go this is what I heard. 639 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: And it's like it's like with anything, it's that your 640 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: like a favorite restaurant occasonally have to top and changeable 641 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: to get to work, you know. But then once you 642 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: get there, you need you need to have a therapist. 643 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: It's healthy, you know, and health and you've. 644 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: Got I think as well, like and I mean, this 645 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: is the best way you've got kind of a weird 646 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: career like highs, lows, busy times, quiet times, and so 647 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: I think I think, especially if you've got a career 648 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: that a lot of people can't relate to. They can admire, 649 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: but they don't walk in your shoes every day, it's 650 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: really helpful as an entertainer. And you've said you're creative 651 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: as well, just to have that outlet of like, hey, 652 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: let's frost it. It's my non negotiable therapy. I'm like, 653 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: it's I think it's the key between like being a 654 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: good human and being a not so great one, because 655 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: you just you're able to process stuff my question, And 656 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: this is what I found so inspiring about you. I 657 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: love that you're just like this is me, no filter, 658 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: say how do isn't I watched your Netflix special last 659 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: night loved loved, Love Love, But yeah, having a career 660 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: flip in your mid thirties, Like it's really confronting for 661 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: me in Australia. Like when I'm in America and training, 662 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: everyone's like, Oh, that's so exciting. I love that you're 663 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: doing this. When I come back to Australia, The most 664 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: common question I got DMed on Instagram about was coming there, 665 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: like are you coming back to have a baby? 666 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: Like? 667 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: Are you coming back to settle down? Are you coming 668 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: back to like nest? And I was like, now I'm 669 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: coming back for a book tour and Crimbo mate like, 670 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: but it just I just find it in a Australia 671 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: for me. I don't know if it's tall poppy, but 672 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: it feels it just feels confronting being in your mid 673 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: thirties changing careers and you've done it brilliantly and it 674 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: inspires me so so much. What advice would you have 675 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: for someone that's like, I know I've got this dream. 676 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: I want to get out of the safe lane. I 677 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: want to chase this dream. What advice would you have 678 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: for someone like me? 679 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: Do it? As long as you're as long as you're breathing, 680 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 2: you can do it. And where people go I can't 681 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: afford it to go, Yes you can. It's amazing. Like 682 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: if you ever say, read articles or go read a 683 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: story about people who have lost their homes in a 684 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 2: fire or tornado or whatever, and how they can come 685 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: back from that. All you really need in life is 686 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: your passport and a credit card. Yeah, and you can 687 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: live in a studio apartment. You can scale down. You 688 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 2: don't need a four bedroom house in Bondo, You don't 689 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: need What do you think you need? If you're happy? Like? 690 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: And I think like when I used to work in advertising, 691 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I loved it. I loved 692 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: working in advertising. But occasionally I'd sit at my desk 693 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: and I'd look out at the guy owing the lawns, 694 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: and I go, I wish I was hem because at 695 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 2: least he's outside smelling the fresh grass. But I'd also 696 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 2: go only thirty more years than I can retire now 697 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: the sort of retiring scars the absolute shit out of me. 698 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not I'm never doing that. That's not 699 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 2: a thing. I'll play more golf, but I'm not retiring. 700 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: That's not on the cards for me. And I like, 701 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: I just knuckle down and do it and don't listen 702 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: to other people, especially people in the industry that they 703 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: have been burned or they you know, have their own 704 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: past or they have their own story, or they have 705 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: their like I will never forget. Let's say a senior comedian, right, so, 706 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 2: a pro comic in New Zealand said to me when 707 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: I just started going over to Australia, because I from 708 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: day one, I would go over to Australia and go 709 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 2: do shows over there and go do festivals and whatever. 710 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: And he said to me, because then I was already 711 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: sort of at the earning point. You know, it takes 712 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: a few years to get to the earning point. But 713 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 2: I was at the good earning point in New Zealand 714 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: and then going over to Australia not making money for 715 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 2: months at a time, and he goes, why do you 716 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: keep going there? He says, you should stay here do corporates. 717 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 2: You can make like ten thousand dollars a day almost 718 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: if you just stay here, he is, You're wasting your 719 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: time over there. And then I just said, all right, mate, 720 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: and I fully did not give a shit about anything. 721 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 2: As soon as he said that, I said, Number one, 722 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 2: he's motivated by money. I get it like it's it's 723 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: it's a strong motivator, like heaps of people are motivated 724 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: by it. Number Two, he doesn't understand my vision. He 725 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: doesn't understand he cannot see my dream. It's not about 726 00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: making money. It's about growing the audience. And I'm really 727 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: passionate about what I do. And I think there's nothing 728 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: more powerful in the world than making people's weeks better, 729 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: or their day better, or just even that one hour better. 730 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: You know, if you can go and just make people 731 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 2: laugh for an hour and not think about their shit, 732 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: it's incredibly powerful and it's a bitter responsibility. And I 733 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: was like, I want to do that. That is my goal. 734 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 2: It's not about and then eventually, you know, after a 735 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: few years, I built my base stronger. My base is 736 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 2: now stronger in Australia than it is in New Zealand. 737 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: That same guy hasn't come to me now, and he 738 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 2: looks like I'm made a huge fuck I missage, mate, do. 739 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: You know what though, you have achieved what you set 740 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: out to do. Because I live in a little town 741 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: called Bangalow, which is just in the hinterland of Byron Bay, 742 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: and I went into a bookstore to buy your book, 743 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: Rolling with the Punchlines, and I ended up in a 744 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: fifteen minute conversation with the lady at the checkout, who 745 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: is obsessed with you and your lockdown diaries, you know, 746 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: how lucky inventories. And I heard and to the point 747 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: that like she'd seen the exact last one you'd put 748 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: up with that filter of the beard and mustache, just 749 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: like how funny was that filter? And like we had 750 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: a full conversation, and I just think you are doing that. 751 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: And so that's a huge testament to you. Now. Exciting 752 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: news for Assi's You're coming back for a tour next year. 753 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: Right, hopefully hopefully I start in March in Melbourne again, 754 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: which is sort of almost like a home game for me. Yeah, 755 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: and then yeah, from as soon as Melbourne finishes, then 756 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: I go on a tour. 757 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: And you do marry Warren to Mate. 758 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 2: I know, I had to skip it. I had to cancel. 759 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: I only had to cancel to venues and Nowwarren and 760 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: Darwin because of COVID Yeah, and I people were not impressed, 761 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: and I was like, I promise I will come back. 762 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 2: So this is my comeback for them. 763 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: And it's called It's Personal. So it's a brand new 764 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: It's completely brand new, isn't it. 765 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent brand new. I write 766 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 2: a new show, yeah, because I'm still on that mindset 767 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 2: from the first I saw every time you go on 768 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 2: stage that that's been there. So I just write new 769 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 2: shows every time because I want people to come back 770 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: and sing me with you. 771 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: Researching you, my boyfriend would come out and he's like, 772 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: what are you laughing at? 773 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 2: Now? 774 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: It would just be anything that I've seen of you 775 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: is just like you. You're I think one of my 776 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: favorite things about you is like you've got such dry 777 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: follow through, so you're able to like, like if I 778 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: got a laugh, I feel like I would just start 779 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: laughing or like lose my benot. Like you see actors 780 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: when they go on SNL, they just like break halfway 781 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: through a skip. You've got this like wonderful, like dry, 782 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: cheeky follow through. 783 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 2: It. 784 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: It's just such a joy to watch. So thank you 785 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: so much for sharing all that you have shared with 786 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: your audience, but also with me today as well. I am, 787 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 1: like I said, a fan and I was so nervous 788 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: to have you on. So thank you so so next 789 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: so twenty twenty two, you're doing your Australian tour. The 790 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: movie is going to come out. Is there anything else 791 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: that is in the pipeline that you're allowed to talk about? 792 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: I know you don't stop, so I know there would 793 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: be Yeah. 794 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't know. I just kind of, 795 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: you know, go with whatever whatever comes up, whatever opportunities 796 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: presents itself. I'll go over that. 797 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: I love it, and to people listening. I'm going to 798 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: put all the links to your shows in my show 799 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: notes as well. It's been such an honor interviewing you today. 800 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: I am a huge, huge fan. You'll always have a 801 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: fan in me, so thank you from the bottom of 802 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: my heart. 803 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: Hi. Thanks for having me on your Partty and NOWT 804 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 2: and good luck with your book tour. Are you finished 805 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 2: with that? 806 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: I go to Malbs next week, go to Melbourne next week, 807 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: and then back in Byron for Crimbo and then back 808 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: to La Wow. 809 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: Hi, good luck with that. My manager lives there among a. 810 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: Life your managers ps, I know I'm still recording. It's 811 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: just because I get afraid that I'll lose it. But 812 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: is ended your managers. 813 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: Like like a week week ago or two weeks ago, Mangali, 814 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: is that that's me? 815 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeh, back. 816 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: Assistant, Yeah got it. 817 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: They've been unreal. They've been like sending me your bio 818 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: checking in, so they're really onto it. So tell them 819 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: they're awesome. 820 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're amazing. No, I will see. But that's it. 821 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 2: Like if you if you're in this industry or any industry, 822 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 2: and you surround like in advertising, was around lyon and 823 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 2: now it's like it takes a while to get those 824 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 2: people around you. But everyone from my account of my 825 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 2: lawyer and my manager, her, everyone, it's just these fucking 826 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: amazing people. And weirdly they're all women. But it wasn't 827 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: a conscious decision that I go, I'm only going to 828 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: have women around me, and just turn out that's the 829 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: best lay I could find for my now was a woman. 830 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: The best accountant was a woman, the best you know, 831 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 2: and it's so good. This is great. 832 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: You got to have your team, you've got to have 833 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 1: the people that you cheerleaders, and you've got to walk 834 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: away from the dickheads that aren't like there's a lot 835 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: of naysayers to it. 836 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, uh, that's people. Yeah. Honestly, I cannot tell 837 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 2: you the amount of people that go, you're insane, don't 838 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: do it. You know my mom my mom in the 839 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 2: beginning was real scared me leaving a good paying advertising 840 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: job to go do gigs for free or forty dollars 841 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: a pop. I'm like, I don't give a shit. Eventually, 842 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: if this is meant to be, it'll pay, I said. 843 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: But I just have a vibe about it, you know 844 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: when you just feel it. 845 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I love that about I 846 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: love the way you talk about coming off stage and 847 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: you could just you had It's like it had a 848 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: taste of the like spirit, magic waters or something, and 849 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm there, this is it. I'm going to 850 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: chase this. So thank you. Honestly, I was like, I said, 851 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: so nervous. So I know you've got a big day 852 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: and you don't stop. So thank you, and thanks for 853 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: your pod. I'm obsessed. I love listening to it. 854 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 2: Oh awesome, thank you, Hi, good luck, stay safe. 855 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: Thank you bye. That's a wrap on another episode of 856 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: Fearlessly failing as always. Thank you to our guests and 857 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 1: let's continue the conversation on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. 858 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: This potty my word for podcast is available on all 859 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 1: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rape 860 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: and comment, and of course spread the love.