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Speaker 1: This is the pickup. Hi, everyone, Happy Monday. It's the
Speaker 1: pick up with Pretty Hockey and Laura Bath.
Speaker 3: I hope you guys had a brilliant weekend.
Speaker 2: I got the best news on the weekend that I
Speaker 2: could have received. If you've been following along closely to
Speaker 2: the pickup, or I guess the news in general, you
Speaker 2: would have heard about the dog that has caught the nation.
Speaker 3: Valerie the Dashound.
Speaker 2: She got lost on Kangaro Island eighteen months ago.
Speaker 1: No one is this hook to this story is what
Speaker 1: Brittan Hockley is. No one.
Speaker 3: I do love an animal story. I get sucked in.
Speaker 2: We know, so Valerie the Dashound moving on to catch
Speaker 2: up to speed. She got lost eighteen months ago with
Speaker 2: her owners on Kangaroo Island. Her owners didn't get lost,
Speaker 2: but Valerie ran away when they were on like a
Speaker 2: three day getaway. The owners had to return to normal
Speaker 2: life after not being able to find her, and they
Speaker 2: thought she must have just not made it and passed away.
Speaker 1: Would you would think that a dashound doesn't, like we're
Speaker 1: talking a sausage dog, doesn't have great survival skills.
Speaker 2: No, it's not the sort of dog you would want
Speaker 2: to take into the wilderness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wild instincts.
Speaker 3: It was spotted over the.
Speaker 2: Last eighteen months alive and thriving and just living its
Speaker 2: best life in the wilderness, but no one could ever
Speaker 2: capture it. And Australia has been on the edge of
Speaker 2: their seat trying to see if they're going to ever
Speaker 2: get Valerie back.
Speaker 3: And I can confirm over.
Speaker 2: The weekend Valerie, after eighteen months in the wilderness, living
Speaker 2: on her own, eating roadkills, scavenging for food.
Speaker 3: And the forest and drinking like whatever the rain.
Speaker 2: Has brought, she has been captured and she is on
Speaker 2: her way back to her owners.
Speaker 3: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: What a good news story for a Monday. We're talking
Speaker 1: five one hundred and twenty nine days a sausage dog.
Speaker 1: This sausage dog is no longer a sausage dog. That's
Speaker 1: a dingo, that's a wild dog. You can't take that
Speaker 1: home now.
Speaker 2: I would love to speak to the owners, maybe next
Speaker 2: week if we can produce a Grace.
Speaker 1: Just to see how Grace, just to see I don't
Speaker 1: want to speak.
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how Valerie will adapt because the
Speaker 2: owner said that she was obviously a very domesticated dog,
Speaker 2: very reliant on her owners.
Speaker 3: And really like obsessed.
Speaker 2: What if she's turning into a savage that she's had
Speaker 2: to do what she's had to do to survive.
Speaker 1: What if Brittany. I wonder if the rest of Australia
Speaker 1: is as interested in getting the owner of Valerie on
Speaker 1: But we'll find out.
Speaker 2: I was in the Sawna yesterday and I was talking
Speaker 2: to her although all these guys in the sauner, I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, guys, have you heard about Valerie the
Speaker 2: Dashi Hound?
Speaker 1: And Everyone's like no. I was like, never mind, I don't.
Speaker 1: No one else cares as much as me. Now. The
Speaker 1: thing that everyone in our office is talking about today
Speaker 1: is Jojo Siwa and her big, very public breakup with
Speaker 1: her partner Cath because of the scandal that has been
Speaker 1: going down on Celebrity Big Brother UK. So if you're
Speaker 1: not across this. There has been, potentially, because we don't
Speaker 1: know for sure, some emotional cheating that's gone on, but no,
Speaker 1: that's confirmed.
Speaker 3: The emotional cheating is confirmed.
Speaker 1: I'm still getting across this story because i gotta admit
Speaker 1: I've not watched Celebrity Big Brother UK.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so Jojo is in a relationship, well sorry,
Speaker 2: was in a relationship with an Australian Kath Ebbs, and
Speaker 2: they've been.
Speaker 3: Seeing each other apparently since the.
Speaker 2: End of last year, and by all accounts, it looked
Speaker 2: pretty amazing, like they were talking about marriage and it
Speaker 2: looked like a really lovely, loving, beautiful relationship, one of
Speaker 2: those things where you're like, wow, these two people found
Speaker 2: each other in these crazy circumstances, and Kath was supporting
Speaker 2: Jojo while she was in the Big Brother House. But
Speaker 2: whilst she was in the house, Jojo formed this like
Speaker 2: insane close what started as a friendship with a guy
Speaker 2: called Chris.
Speaker 1: Chris Hughes is from the Island, and it.
Speaker 2: Turned into this point where it almost made people uncomfortable
Speaker 2: to watch. It was so close Laura that like they
Speaker 2: sleep in the same bed together, They're always cuddling, laying.
Speaker 3: On top of each other's chest.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I see some of the massaging that was
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And at the start, a lot of people were like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just a beautiful friendship. JoJo's gay, JoJo's in a relationship,
Speaker 2: so it's all good. And when they're in the spa together,
Speaker 2: they're always cuddling, and they just became so insanely close
Speaker 2: that it even started to make people in the Big
Speaker 2: Brother House feel uncomfortable, and Paul Cath in Australia started
Speaker 2: to get completely trolled online about what their partner was
Speaker 2: doing over there. So I can't imagine what Cath was
Speaker 2: going through, but it has just exploded. Well.
Speaker 1: Kind of the summation of this is that Kath went
Speaker 1: over to the UK for the Big Brother finale party
Speaker 1: and Jojo broke up with them that night, So it
Speaker 1: really and you know, I think watching this all unfold
Speaker 1: very publicly, I cannot even imagine how difficult that would be.
Speaker 1: But I still think you would give your partner the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. You know, you would see something
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, that makes me feel uncomfortable. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's an explanation of this. You know, I want
Speaker 1: to deny my intuition, but I'm going to go and
Speaker 1: be there and support them anyway. The reason why I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this specifically is even though everyone
Speaker 1: is discussing this whole situation between Jojo and Cath and
Speaker 1: it is going down on social media, there was also
Speaker 1: a really interesting Body and Soul article that came out
Speaker 1: which was titled what do you do when your ex
Speaker 1: ends up with the person they told you not to
Speaker 1: worry about? And I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: may have experienced this where you have this sneaky suspicion
Speaker 1: when you're together, or your intuition is telling you that
Speaker 1: something just isn't right about this relationship or friendship. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's a work colleague, maybe it's like a really close friend,
Speaker 1: and then weeks later or months later after the breakup,
Speaker 1: it turns out that they're hooking up or they're together now,
Speaker 1: and it makes you think, okay, well, then was something
Speaker 1: there the whole time? Well?
Speaker 2: I think the question here is if you say, what
Speaker 2: do you do if you find out after the fact
Speaker 2: you do nothing, who cares you?
Speaker 3: Move on?
Speaker 2: But what I think is more important is when you're
Speaker 2: in that relationship, listen to your intuition, like your body
Speaker 2: is telling you that something is not right. That is
Speaker 2: a response for a reason, Like it's not something that
Speaker 2: you've made up in your ow. I mean, you might
Speaker 2: have made it up in your head, but our bodies
Speaker 2: give us that feeling because they know deep down something
Speaker 2: is not right. And for me, every time I have
Speaker 2: had that feeling, I've always been the person that gives
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt because like a.
Speaker 1: Loah, love whatever.
Speaker 3: But it always turned out to be true. I remember
Speaker 3: when I.
Speaker 2: Was I've talked a bit about this guy that I
Speaker 2: was with many moons ago, someone I thought I was
Speaker 2: gonna marry that had this double life, like basically he
Speaker 2: was marrying two people simultaneously, and he did that for
Speaker 2: two years, right, And so I had these feelings all
Speaker 2: the way through that at different times, and I always
Speaker 2: ignored them.
Speaker 3: And there was this one particular time he was.
Speaker 2: Overseas working he worked in the hospital overseas, and there
Speaker 2: was this woman that was also working overseas with him,
Speaker 2: and he was hanging out with her all the time,
Speaker 2: and I remember saying, is there anything you want to
Speaker 2: tell me? Like you're hanging out with this person a lot,
Speaker 2: and He's like, yeah, it's just lonely over here, like
Speaker 2: we're just my friend. Were just two people that have
Speaker 2: been posted over here together to the point that he
Speaker 2: was sending me selfies of them concerts together, and he
Speaker 2: was making it so obvious how often they were together
Speaker 2: that it was like nothing could be going on, where like,
Speaker 2: why would I be sending you photos of us together,
Speaker 2: you know, like we're just hanging out all this time.
Speaker 1: And he was such a jerk.
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm not even attracted to her, like gross.
Speaker 1: Kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Anyway, in hindsight, they were hooking up the whole time, like,
Speaker 2: and once I found that out, I was like, I
Speaker 2: knew that. I was like, why didn't I just listen
Speaker 2: to myself at the time. But you want to believe
Speaker 2: what the person you love is telling you.
Speaker 1: I mean, coming back to this situation with Jojo Siwa
Speaker 1: and Kath Ebbs, obviously we don't know them, so we
Speaker 1: are just speculating. But I would guess that Kath was
Speaker 1: watching on and being like, well, surely if there was something,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be this obvious, and surely there's just a
Speaker 1: friendship and it's not a sexual attraction. I am sure
Speaker 1: that Kath doubted themselves in what they were thinking and
Speaker 1: probably needed to go over there for the clarity, and
Speaker 1: the clarity came in a very sudden breakup.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think from what Kath has come out
Speaker 2: and said, is that they might have been slightly uncomfortable
Speaker 2: with some of the stuff that they were seeing, but
Speaker 2: they definitely wanted to be the relationship and work it
Speaker 2: out and wanted to clarity. And I get the impression
Speaker 2: and they were excited to go over and hang out
Speaker 2: and spend that time, and to go over there and
Speaker 2: then get dumped and then Jojo and Chris have since
Speaker 2: been seen at a golf club specifically, they haven't confirmed.
Speaker 1: That anything's going on a golf clubs.
Speaker 2: From what I have seen, I feel for Cath, but
Speaker 2: I do think that we'll see Chris and Jojo end
Speaker 2: up coming out together.
Speaker 1: That's what I think.
Speaker 2: I got myself into a real pickle, Laura, by choosing.
Speaker 1: The fiance that I have. I mean, he's great. I
Speaker 1: think the people's fine.
Speaker 2: So my fiance is German. Well he's Swiss, but he
Speaker 2: speaks Swiss, German and German, so I've been trying to
Speaker 2: learn German. It is so hard, I've essentially given up.
Speaker 1: You have been trying to learn German for two years,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to insult you, but I don't
Speaker 1: think you've made any progress. However, I find it quite
Speaker 1: funny because you're the first person to pick on Ben
Speaker 1: when he says something wrong in English.
Speaker 3: He's fifth language, but he.
Speaker 1: Speaks literally six different languages.
Speaker 2: He speaks five, and I have so much satisfaction when
Speaker 2: he gets a word wrong.
Speaker 1: But I don't give him a hard time. I just
Speaker 1: I just couldn't laugh at him. The audacity that you
Speaker 1: have to correct him in his English speaking when he
Speaker 1: can speak.
Speaker 2: Everything one hundred percent. And I understand what that says
Speaker 2: about me. He did write, I did have a giggle.
Speaker 2: It's really cute. His English is amazing, like I cannot falter,
Speaker 2: but sometimes English is hard to write and read. But yes, say,
Speaker 2: he did write to me, and he said he had
Speaker 2: a toasty for lunch and he wrote tw stie and
Speaker 2: I thought that was really cute. Toasty but that's how
Speaker 2: it sounds right anyway.
Speaker 3: So he now lives in Italy.
Speaker 2: So I just went to Italy, and now I've realized
Speaker 2: that I need to learn Italian.
Speaker 1: It's a new language. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I went over there, and I did have a
Speaker 2: few mishaps with not being able to understand what I
Speaker 2: was buying. So my sister and her partner also came
Speaker 2: over and they had their little baby, Maya, who's ten
Speaker 2: months old.
Speaker 3: And I went to the.
Speaker 2: Supermarkets to get some things, and my sister asked me
Speaker 2: to also get some baby food and I was like, yeah, cool,
Speaker 2: And I was like, what does she have and she's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, just get the packet a raffertys.
Speaker 2: No, She's like, get some of those because it's easy, right,
Speaker 2: like the yogur pouches that come with a swivel top.
Speaker 3: You squeeze them out like you all know those yogat pouches.
Speaker 1: That is literally Rafferty's oh is it? Yeah, Well, I
Speaker 1: don't have a kid. I don't know the names.
Speaker 3: Sorry, And this is not sponsored, Lauren.
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's it's just the one that I used to buy. Okay.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I got some other stuff for Ben too,
Speaker 2: So fast forward, I go to my sisters to give
Speaker 2: her the baby food, and I'm in charge of feeding
Speaker 2: the baby because I'm you know, I'm like taking all
Speaker 2: the time i can with my niece. I'm like, do
Speaker 2: I want to have this soon? Do or want my
Speaker 2: own child? Let's let's see. So I opened the yogur
Speaker 2: My sister's like a couple of meters away, and I
Speaker 2: go to squeeze out and I was like, that doesn't
Speaker 2: look right, and.
Speaker 1: My sister looks over she goes. I was like, is
Speaker 1: this what this is supposed.
Speaker 3: To look like?
Speaker 1: And she's like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 3: No, I go down and sniff it.
Speaker 1: Dog food.
Speaker 3: I got a squeezy pouch of dog food that I
Speaker 3: was about to feed my ten month old knees.
Speaker 1: Catfood would have been worse. Why does she smell it? Well,
Speaker 1: maybe it was cat food. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was some kind of pet food. But in my defense,
Speaker 2: it was quite like neutral packaging. And then there was
Speaker 2: just like this really fine line art drawing of what
Speaker 2: turned out to be an animal's face in.
Speaker 3: A bottom corner.
Speaker 1: I don't think that this is something that is like
Speaker 1: specific to being in another country. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember this, Bree. It was a long time ago now,
Speaker 1: but I got sent I have a dog. I have
Speaker 1: a dog. I got sent a beautiful package of what
Speaker 1: were little donut biscuits, and like it was obviously from
Speaker 1: a very organic brand, made very naturally. It looked like
Speaker 1: something that you could have picked up at the farmer's markets.
Speaker 1: And they were these cute little doughnut biscuits. I had
Speaker 1: icing on top, and they were in little individual bags.
Speaker 1: And my nephew at the time came over, he was
Speaker 1: about four, and I gave it to him, didn't read
Speaker 1: the packaging, didn't pay any attention to it, and I
Speaker 1: handed him dog biscuits, of which he ate all of them,
Speaker 1: which so at least I took it one step further.
Speaker 1: You ended it before it could have gotten worse. But
Speaker 1: like you know what, he's never had nicer biscuits. To
Speaker 1: be fair, he's got to say immaculate.
Speaker 2: His hair was so shiny, males amazing. I think, my sisters,
Speaker 2: I can't be in charge of looking after myer anymore.
Speaker 2: Because then I went to make his coffees. This is
Speaker 2: the same day from the same shop when to make
Speaker 2: his coffees. And I went to pour in like the
Speaker 2: long life milk into the coffee chicken stock, because it
Speaker 2: both it just comes in the exact same don't you know.
Speaker 1: Those like cardboard cartons.
Speaker 2: It comes in the same thing, and I can't read Italian.
Speaker 1: It's weird that one of them has a picture of
Speaker 1: a chicken on the front, but like, you would never
Speaker 1: guess that they didn't just milk a chicken.
Speaker 2: In Italy anyway, it was chicken stock, so obviously canned
Speaker 2: that and canned the baby food.
Speaker 3: My I did not eat the baby food. But I'm like,
Speaker 3: what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: How am I ever going to go and live over
Speaker 2: there successfully if I can't read anything?
Speaker 1: No, just smell things before you take really a stance.
Speaker 1: I did. That's how I knew it was chicken stock.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is really salty. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe you just need to let Ben
Speaker 1: be in charge of everything from now on.
Speaker 3: Oh, don't let him hears it.
Speaker 1: Now, Britt, Yes, I have a question for you. Hit
Speaker 1: me what age? And I want a specific age? Am
Speaker 1: I now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Twenty seven? No, because it's always a lie. You always
Speaker 1: You've never telled us the true never know. Even Daily
Speaker 1: Mail doesn't know for sure. Every article there's something different
Speaker 1: written about you.
Speaker 2: It changes every article because they'll be like, we'll get
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 1: At one point. Okay, So everyone has fallen over, right,
Speaker 1: like kids fall over. You know, you might have a
Speaker 1: couple too many drinks on the weekend, you might fall over.
Speaker 1: But when does the transition happen between when falling over
Speaker 1: the description of that turns into having a fall. Oh,
Speaker 1: like when you're old and just fall over, but you
Speaker 1: had a fall.
Speaker 3: I feel like it may be you know, great question.
Speaker 2: By the way, Laura, I'll just add that there.
Speaker 1: I think maybe everyone's been considering on their Monday, isn't it.
Speaker 2: The thing is, maybe it's when you can't get back up.
Speaker 2: So do you think that's when you've had a fall
Speaker 2: as opposed to fell over? It's like or when there's
Speaker 2: a bad injury. It's definitely age related because you don't
Speaker 2: say it.
Speaker 1: I guess you do.
Speaker 3: For a kid, You're like, oh, they had a fall.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 1: It does sound very like retirement d doesn't it. So
Speaker 1: either it's severity or age related. Yeah, But then it
Speaker 1: can't just be a number of age. It's got to
Speaker 1: be like the age of the person, because like some people,
Speaker 1: you might get someone who's in the eighties, but they're
Speaker 1: a really young person in the eighties. You get someone
Speaker 1: in their seventies, but they're a really old person in
Speaker 1: their seventies, Rightly, people don't just age the same. I
Speaker 1: say this because I have recently, and I don't know
Speaker 1: why it is happening, but I have become particularly clumsy,
Speaker 1: and in the space of three days, I had three
Speaker 1: separate episodes where I fell over. We're not calling them falls.
Speaker 2: You can't call it an episode either. That's the age
Speaker 2: things as well. If you've had an episode of.
Speaker 1: Falls, you're doom. Well. I fell over three separate times,
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking like little falls. I have a
Speaker 1: massive bruise across the whole of my left ass cheek
Speaker 1: because I fell over. All right, hang on, set me up.
Speaker 1: First fall? What happened? And now my husband's describing them
Speaker 1: as I'm having falls? Okay, First one, I was running
Speaker 1: backwards on the beach because I was like chasing my
Speaker 1: daughter and I was running backwards she was chasing me,
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize that directly behind me was a
Speaker 1: massive log with sticks sticking out of it. And I
Speaker 1: fell over the lo and I fell into the log
Speaker 1: full of sticks, and then I rolled around on the
Speaker 1: ground for a while because it hurt really bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: I would say in front of people as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say you fell over for that one, that's
Speaker 2: not a fool, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then next day, we were at a rock platform,
Speaker 1: so little cute rock pools and even ground yep. I
Speaker 1: took one step onto the rock platform. Everyone else was
Speaker 1: on there comfortably walking around looking at the crabs. I
Speaker 1: took one step and I slipped in some algae and
Speaker 1: then I rolled down the rock platform back on out
Speaker 1: of the stets.
Speaker 2: Okay, so green mosses entered the chat. I would also say,
Speaker 2: in that circumstance, you fell over, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Three same day, but in the afternoon, I was rushing
Speaker 1: because I had to go and pick up my daughter
Speaker 1: ye and I was trying to get my youngest into
Speaker 1: the car, and I was wearing crocheted pants and my
Speaker 1: big toe from my left foot hooked into the crochet
Speaker 1: hole of my pant in my right like my right pant,
Speaker 1: and I tripped over my own pants. This one was
Speaker 1: like I flew through the air and my phone went,
Speaker 1: my keys went. Everything was like a very dramatic and
Speaker 1: my four year old walks up and she goes, mom,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Keep falling over all the time,
Speaker 1: and I really don't have an answer for it.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I would say in that one that
Speaker 2: you had a fall.
Speaker 1: The third one you had a fall.
Speaker 2: Guys, do you know what I think I've realized it
Speaker 2: is now that we've broken it down. I think having
Speaker 2: a fall is when you fall for no apparent reason,
Speaker 2: like you're just walking.
Speaker 1: I just was walking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that's when it is. Because you
Speaker 2: got caught in your pants, that's having a fall. But
Speaker 2: when you fall over backward, do you sleep on algae?
Speaker 1: You fell? So I also had I also had platform
Speaker 1: sandals on, so I really I really took a dive.
Speaker 1: But anyway, my four year old really added insult to injury.
Speaker 1: The night of so like, she was very confused by
Speaker 1: my constant falling over. And then that night I was
Speaker 1: putting her in bed and I gave her her like
Speaker 1: drink bottle and I like went to pat her hair
Speaker 1: with my hand, and she just looked at me, and
Speaker 1: she looks at me with this real look of concern
Speaker 1: on her face, and she goes, ummy, you're getting old,
Speaker 1: And I was like, sorry, why why sweetart? She goes,
Speaker 1: look at your hands and I look down at my hands,
Speaker 1: and I have kind of particularly veiny hands. Also so
Speaker 1: does Angelina. Jolly, sorry, you have.
Speaker 2: Beautiful skin and young hands. You could be a hand
Speaker 2: model with veins.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll be a vain Yeah, I'm very good
Speaker 1: if I need to go in and get anything done intravenously.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I could calulate you easily.
Speaker 1: Yeah you could great. Okay, So you know, I was
Speaker 1: slightly offended. But then she doubled down and I said,
Speaker 1: I don't think my hands look that old, are they, sweetie?
Speaker 1: And she goes yeah, and all the lines and then
Speaker 1: she went through and pointed all the lines out on
Speaker 1: my face, and so now I'm yeah, she told me
Speaker 1: that I look more like a nana than a mum.
Speaker 1: So I'm really anyway, guys, happy Monday. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that is the worst.
Speaker 2: It's you know what, the lines I could deal with,
Speaker 2: but saying you look more like a nana, that like
Speaker 2: would hurt me. I'd be looking straight in from the bowtok,
Speaker 2: I'll be like getting them on the line.
Speaker 1: Give me everything clean, schedule, all right? So I booked
Speaker 1: in for a facelift. Is happy next week? I'm six
Speaker 1: weeks off. Everyone like me look like a baby,