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Speaker 2: you can just send mine to FRUMSUS. If you've been
Speaker 2: seeing an influx of celebrities doing objectively terrifying and bad things,
Speaker 2: you are not alone, it seems to some of the
Speaker 2: last I want to say, let's say the whole year,
Speaker 2: pretty much, it's been celebrity after celebrity after celebrity. There
Speaker 2: was Lizzo, Beyonce even did something naughty. They both had,
Speaker 2: they both did slurs.
Speaker 1: It wasn't good.
Speaker 2: We had ariana Grande adulterer, allegedly, Danny Masseton not good,
Speaker 2: good assault her allegedly, Ashton Kutchen, Kutchin, Ashton Kutcher, Mila Kunis,
Speaker 2: Drew Barrymore, Russell Brand, again and again and again.
Speaker 3: And I will say some some mean discussions worse than others.
Speaker 2: Obviously, well, obviously you do with that information what you will.
Speaker 2: But it seems as though the standard, the norm, the
Speaker 2: expectation is that when I open up my device no
Speaker 2: free press and I scroll through my nondescript media app,
Speaker 2: I'm going to see an apology or a cancelation in practice.
Speaker 2: But generally, what I'm noticing is that, let's say three
Speaker 2: years ago, it was us, the audience, the consumer, deciding
Speaker 2: who is bad who is good. Now it's celebrities presenting
Speaker 2: themselves as bad people, and we have no choice but
Speaker 2: to say, you know what, you are terrible, This is
Speaker 2: not good.
Speaker 1: It's definitely changed.
Speaker 2: We're no longer having to you know, go into archives,
Speaker 2: go to the back of someone's Twitter thread from seventeen
Speaker 2: years ago and find an indiscretion. It's front and center,
Speaker 2: and it's also front and center and often cons with legalities,
Speaker 2: like the quatch of the law is now also deciding
Speaker 2: that you are bad. It's not just me and my
Speaker 2: perception of your behavior. And you know I've said before
Speaker 2: as firm mentioned sorry, like some of them are general
Speaker 2: predators and their time has come, you know, is overdue.
Speaker 2: But then part of me thinks it could be something
Speaker 2: a little sinister. Okay, bear with me. For the last
Speaker 2: five months or so, there's been an actor's strike and
Speaker 2: a writer strike, right, which is meant underneath the terms
Speaker 2: of that strike, and it stopped recently, thank goodness. But
Speaker 2: under the terms of that strike it meant that actors
Speaker 2: and writers could not post promote, make, or film, pitch
Speaker 2: anything to do with movies and TV shows at all,
Speaker 2: which meant you have a lot of actors who are
Speaker 2: now suddenly out of work and they can't promote themselves
Speaker 2: or their work to essentially funnel their other businesses. You
Speaker 2: know Ryan Reynolds, for example, he's not just an actor.
Speaker 2: He has a whiskey company and a photo app or something,
Speaker 2: and he also does this, and he owns a football team.
Speaker 2: He's got other avenues. Thank goodness, he can promote himself
Speaker 2: through these things that he does. What about everybody else
Speaker 2: just having to be penniless and marketing less because there's
Speaker 2: a drat up carcasses?
Speaker 1: I thought, could that be something?
Speaker 2: And for someone who works in media and marketing, I
Speaker 2: often feel like I'm quite naive as to what is
Speaker 2: a PR stunt and what is just you know, bad
Speaker 2: timing good entertainment. And this doesn't feel like bad time
Speaker 2: and good entertainment. This feels like I don't know a
Speaker 2: new wave of publicity that you reckon that recognizes that
Speaker 2: chaos marketing and outrage marketing does a lot for people.
Speaker 2: Even more so than someone being in a movie. We're
Speaker 2: talking about people we would have never spoken about at
Speaker 2: length because of their indiscretions.
Speaker 3: Do you really believe that bad publicity is good publicity?
Speaker 3: Not personally, but yeah, like not for yourself, my stone, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do absolutely.
Speaker 2: If you scroll through the back catalog of the Flex
Speaker 2: and Room show and you pull out every celebrity that
Speaker 2: we've talked about, I wouldn't say I'm fans of most
Speaker 2: of them, but they've somehow found themselves in the news
Speaker 2: for doing something potentially sus or.
Speaker 1: Or shady, and now we're speaking about it at length.
Speaker 2: True, you know, yeah, it's not great. It is a
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory. I feel like, you know, look, look what
Speaker 2: the court case is about assault. That's not this is
Speaker 2: not a bit of show business. That's just bad people
Speaker 2: doing bad things. Everybody else. I'm sus as if Drew
Speaker 2: Barrymore is the first celebrity to cross the picket line
Speaker 2: for a writer strike Drew Barrymore, she's got like generations
Speaker 2: in the game, Like she knows she's not better, So
Speaker 2: if she's the first one to do it, she's kinde
Speaker 2: of like better than I need to get paid today.
Speaker 2: I need to get paid today. I don't have time anyway.
Speaker 2: If you have any other thoughts to conspiracies and you
Speaker 2: feel like you want to share them, voice memos preferred
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Speaker 2: accept all submissions and admissions. Will they make it to
Speaker 2: the show? Who knows love seeing them?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 3: A few months ago, or rather a few weeks ago,
Speaker 3: oh would have been, It might be a few months now,
Speaker 3: I reckon, mom. We have been dilly dilling and tiptoeing
Speaker 3: around a concept called.
Speaker 1: It a cult.
Speaker 3: I personally have never been involved in a cult. I
Speaker 3: did go to like a church for a little while
Speaker 3: when I was like younger, which was like had a cult.
Speaker 2: Like academic institutions have cult like vibes exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess I did go to university. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll say you practiced. Yeah, well you were practiced upon.
Speaker 1: I was practiced upon. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: Anyway, guys, we're creating a cult.
Speaker 1: This is what we've got so far in the cult.
Speaker 3: Flex is the leader of the cult purely because I
Speaker 3: took myself out of the race.
Speaker 1: Because I believe that.
Speaker 2: We've taken out of the race due to your inability
Speaker 2: to manage your time efficiently and to participate.
Speaker 1: The cult is called redacted.
Speaker 3: The byline is the third space where we prioritize getting
Speaker 3: near it and bonding with each other.
Speaker 1: See child, It's over the line. It's nothing crazy.
Speaker 3: So last time we determined whether Utopia is situated, where
Speaker 3: did we say it was Melbourne?
Speaker 2: It's global bab was global global citizen? Because I want
Speaker 2: to leave room for the aliens in abduction. Would you
Speaker 2: like to be abducted? I mean not just one of one, yeah,
Speaker 2: but definitely a group. I'd be abducted with you, oh
Speaker 2: for sure. You know.
Speaker 1: Imagine the content opportunities.
Speaker 2: Are sending invoices from Mars. Imagine charging a client for licensing.
Speaker 2: I'm in Marsstree, Mars wide. Any good organized environment, institution, group, community,
Speaker 2: group of friends, whatever needs rules And I'm not talking
Speaker 2: ways to keep you in line, but also just ways
Speaker 2: to confirm that we are all on the same page
Speaker 2: when it comes to what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior.
Speaker 3: We have here a list that has been written for us. However,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go through and there's fourth confirmed mole
Speaker 3: deny confirmal deny number one rats Tales.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's personal. I love already. I
Speaker 1: love already too. Who's clocked us wrong? Someone here who
Speaker 1: wrote this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I personally want a ratty. I think a
Speaker 2: nice we need a nice number one on the side
Speaker 2: or a nice fade.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Oh, we've got that in the road. You can weit
Speaker 2: a little on top. We can even go malody. I
Speaker 2: don't even mind. But a nice I would say, an
Speaker 2: ideal ratty length fifteen centimeters, not twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like it's.
Speaker 3: Significant, like this your body of your hand all the
Speaker 3: way up to the top of your middle finger. I
Speaker 3: would say, I like a real thin one, okay, like
Speaker 3: a little traditional that like you could you know, when
Speaker 3: you touch a plant, it's like like loving the feeling. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I love running my two index and thumb finger down
Speaker 3: a little plat and going so nice nice.
Speaker 1: So rattails are allowed.
Speaker 3: Also, E scooters, I'm gonna say E scooters can be
Speaker 3: in when used with a helmet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about road safety really quickly. I've been
Speaker 2: thinking about it a lot. We need helmets. Okay, if
Speaker 2: you won't do it for yourself, imagine the embarrassment you'll
Speaker 2: see in the after place, wherever you go afterwards, knowing
Speaker 2: that you've ended your life and you've now been assigned
Speaker 2: to an eternity of nothingness because you didn't wear a helmet.
Speaker 2: It's simply not that deep. It's crazy pop on on
Speaker 2: and if you don't own one, then maybe don't ride it.
Speaker 2: You know what they need unless you unless you don't
Speaker 2: mind the risk.
Speaker 1: You know what they need. What they need.
Speaker 3: What they need is and this could be in shark tank,
Speaker 3: so somebody still it if you have an engineering degree,
Speaker 3: but also message me or help with the marketing they
Speaker 3: need like a helmet that is folded up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keeping a bag.
Speaker 3: It like pops up and it's like titanium. I swear
Speaker 3: we could do it with all the adam um.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: The third thing rudeness, but not sassinus. I would say personally,
Speaker 3: I would like rudeness to not be in the utopia.
Speaker 3: I think rudeness needs to be in the utopia.
Speaker 2: Oh, because if you remove a natural human function, you
Speaker 2: replace it with something worse.
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe we're not rude, but are we all petty?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Oh? Are your passive aggressive? I can't handle that. You
Speaker 2: need emotional intelligence as a mask please?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well it's rasy to go through the must have
Speaker 3: must have somethings band. The final one that was suggested
Speaker 3: here for us is rich people. I would say that
Speaker 3: under what regime guys, under what regime are we all?
Speaker 1: Are we on the same page? Are we not on
Speaker 1: the same page? Scant budget? This is how distatorship staguy
Speaker 1: is enough to go around.
Speaker 2: We promise some will have more than others. Okay, but
Speaker 2: there is enough there is to go around, and there
Speaker 2: will be a currency in this utopia.
Speaker 1: Do not play.
Speaker 3: If I had to write one thing that's not ending
Speaker 3: up in the utopia, it's the ability to burp of you.
Speaker 1: I don't burb disgusting babe, but it feels like like
Speaker 1: on the fringe of your brand.
Speaker 3: E anyway, you're with flexing friends on kit that is
Speaker 3: so offensive. Flexi and I we're having a conversation on
Speaker 3: the air. But guys, you know what is radio one
Speaker 3: on one practice is that when you're doing a radio show,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't be like, oh, like me and my co
Speaker 3: host talked about this earlier because apparent only people will
Speaker 3: be like, why weren't we part of the conversation. However,
Speaker 3: I believe you need to know the rules to break up,
Speaker 3: and that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. Sorry.
Speaker 3: Earlier I was talking to you, Flexi about how I
Speaker 3: was mentioning the size of my forehead online. Yes, and
Speaker 3: I was therefore giving people open slather to comment on
Speaker 3: the size.
Speaker 2: Well, can I quickly put my hand up. You weren't
Speaker 2: talking about the size of your forehead online. You were
Speaker 2: insinuating and inferring that you had a bigger than average forehead.
Speaker 2: You were making jokes about this allegedly bigger than average forehead,
Speaker 2: and doing it in such an inviting and humorous way
Speaker 2: that I can imagine the average person will take that
Speaker 2: as a license to now joke about your potentially average
Speaker 2: than normal forehead.
Speaker 3: Tell me, then, why I'm posted a beautiful central selfie
Speaker 3: with no reference to their forehead. First message five head
Speaker 3: to get out of my eyes.
Speaker 2: And I hate to be right, babe, I really do.
Speaker 2: It's I don't love it. I don't love putting you
Speaker 2: in a position where I can say I told you so.
Speaker 3: Anyway, we Well, I came to the saying maybe there's
Speaker 3: kind of this whole theory that the bigger the forehead,
Speaker 3: the larger the brain, and if de bumps that, But
Speaker 3: it turns out that this ideology has ancient Greek.
Speaker 2: Roots, Guys, Roman Empire. What the hell it's called phrenology.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of it? I haven't.
Speaker 3: So phrenology, which is from the ancient Greek word friend.
Speaker 3: How do you know that? Oh? Frenology duh, which means mind,
Speaker 3: and then logos, which means knowledge. So mind knowledge is
Speaker 3: a pseudoscience that involves the measurement of bumps on the
Speaker 3: skull to predictmental traits. It is based on the concept
Speaker 3: that the brain is an organ of the mind and
Speaker 3: that like brain, things are localized.
Speaker 1: And anyway.
Speaker 3: So yeah, apparently they seem to think that the bigger
Speaker 3: head and see it's like, okay, so here's a picture
Speaker 3: of a skull, and it's like, you know how in
Speaker 3: those anatomy books there's like a skull in it says
Speaker 3: where all the stuff is in your head.
Speaker 2: They have a campus, the frontal lobe and stuff those
Speaker 2: things exactly.
Speaker 1: But it turns out, yeah, it's a it's a pseudoscience.
Speaker 3: So although I do have someoneuld say a larger than
Speaker 3: average head.
Speaker 2: No, a larger than average forehead, but a tiny head,
Speaker 2: I know, which means it probably averages out and you
Speaker 2: probably have a smaller than average forehead.
Speaker 3: Bro the pinhead by square meter, the pin head is real.
Speaker 3: Have you ever touched a baby soft part of their forehead,
Speaker 3: of their head.
Speaker 1: I don't love doing I hate it. Man.
Speaker 3: That's where they people say I get intrusive thoughts, Like
Speaker 3: when I'm on a plane, I do consider opening the door.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real with.
Speaker 3: Your chief every time because I'm staying there, ready to
Speaker 3: go to the toilet and the whole big like think Sam,
Speaker 3: like obviously I could do it, anyone could do it.
Speaker 1: Stopping you. Why don't you see your intrusive thoughts.
Speaker 3: Through because that's what they are, intrusive thoughts, and that
Speaker 3: would be harming myself and others.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go through the propeller. Good to
Speaker 1: know I would never door guys. Sorry, you can catch
Speaker 1: playing with me. You're on the no fly list tomorrow.
Speaker 2: She spat everywhere everyone she's spat, But.
Speaker 1: I'll get you a new one. Sorry, that's so gross.
Speaker 1: That's that's like my body leading the plane ill. I
Speaker 1: don't know where I was going with this, but thank
Speaker 1: you for sharing. Undertheless, you've been listening to The Flex
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