1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's joy. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: It's on the cutting room floor. 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: What we got there today, Governor, haven't we. 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: All enjoyed seeing the return of Vivian. Vivian was a 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: little miniature dash hound who went missing on Kangaroo Island. 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Yep, yep for like eighteen months. 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 4: Eighteen months yea. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Their owners took it along to Kangaroo Island for a. 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 4: Holiday camping weekend. 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: And it's not the sort of dog you take into 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: the wild. You see those dudes the driver around and. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: Ford raptors, and they've got pig dogs on the back 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: of their forward raptors in those metal boxes, and they're 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: slavering away at the cage, not. 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 1: The driver of the cardle. So sometimes you can't tell 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: them apart. 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: And then they let the pig dog and they got 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: pig and shit and pigs. No, you don't take a 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: little duck sound along. 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: For what they did. 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: They went camping. They took their little dog along because 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: he's a member of the family and he was within 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: a little cage. Darien had his toys, or they went fishing. 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: They came back. He wasn't there missing for eighteen months, 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: and they saw footage of him on various cameras, various 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: security cameras, I guess surveillance cameras around the island, so 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: they knew he was still alive. They finally captured him 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: and brought him home. Lots of great vision of the reunions, 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 3: and he looks like he's very, very happy to be home. 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: Because I was wondering if he'd come home and like 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: a Stephen King novel, like Cujo, he'd have gone Ferulan's 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: more of their faces off. 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Cujo was a Saint Bernard, and you wouldn't 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: have expected him to be savage. 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: Saint Bernard's largely or a rescue. 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 4: Dog, especially when they're bring you the Brandy. 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: When they bring the little bowel of Brandy. 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: Remember pet Cemetery. That book scared the hell out of me. 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Was there a Saint Bernard in that as well? 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: No, it was just it was yeah and the little kid, Yeah. 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Spoiled kid. Well, if you haven't seen a movie from 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. 43 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: We can't help you with that. But that was terrifying. 44 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: But onto other things. 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: I like the idea of it. 46 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 4: Lad Vivian's alive and well. 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: A dash hand because they're the cutest little dog. They 48 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: look like they always look like they're wearing a waistcoat. 49 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: Oh, they doing their little velvety arms. 50 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Little faces. 51 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: It's so sweet. 52 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: They're plagued with veterinary problems, though, aren't they. 53 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: Well are they? 54 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? But yeah, because they're not meant to be that 55 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: like that, yes. 56 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: Well maybe not the miniatures, but they were bred. Every 57 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: dog has a purpose. Every dog originally had a job. 58 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: We didn't breed them just to be fun. Even the 59 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: dogs like a like a a king Charles Cavalier had 60 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 3: a job. 61 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 4: The lap dogs, that was their job. 62 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: That's why they are bred with flat noses and big eyes, 63 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: because they can sit on your lap and look up 64 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: into your face. Like my dog is a border Collie. 65 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: We all know what those jobs are, chasing around sheep. 66 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: But any of those dogs with slightly longer noses, if 67 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: you talk to them and say, do you want to 68 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: go for a walk, whatever, they'll move their head from 69 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: side to side because they can't see around this. They 70 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: can't see enough of your facial expressions around their long snouts. 71 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 4: So every dog has a job. So I'm not sure 72 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: what Valeries is so cute. 73 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: I had a dog once. It was just a ninety 74 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: kilo poor. 75 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: Machine, and its job was to be a person I did. 76 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: Let's talk about cats, though I'm not a cat person. 77 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: You've had a number of cats time, and you've spoken 78 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: to me about how sometimes your cat was being fed 79 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: down the road. 80 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rufus, our cat that we had. And I don't 81 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: want pets. I don't want cats, I don't want dogs. 82 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: I just don't have any time for them. And it's 83 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: not fair. It doesn't mean I don't like them. I 84 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: like cats and I like dogs, but I just don't 85 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: have the wherewithal to feed them, to do all the 86 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: junk that goes with them. 87 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm very disconnected from them. You need a dog in 88 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: your life. I don't. But having said that, I don't 89 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: hate dogs or cats. What happened. We inherited two cats. 90 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: My wife and my kids inherited them too. Families are 91 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: like that as well. 92 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: I want to be like Reacher, just going from town 93 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: to town, punching people out and rooting women. 94 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: That's all I want to be. 95 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: But someone was feeding your cat. 96 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so with a French chap and he loved Rufus, 97 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: and Rufus was a very you met Rufus. 98 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: He was a very wise cat. 99 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: But He was a very smart cat as well, very 100 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: well read, very good at like munching into minor birds, 101 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: like never munched into a native bird, by the way. 102 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: But I remember one time watching him on my back 103 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: fence and there was these minor birds swooping him because 104 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: he just killed one minor bird. And the minor bird 105 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: what the remains of it were at the back fence, 106 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: and the other birds the rest of the bird found. 107 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: We were clearly upset about this was swooping Rufus, and 108 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: Rufus is sort of lying on the on the top 109 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: of the fence, well fed, well fed. And then about 110 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: twenty thirty minutes later I walked past and there's a 111 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: dead miner bird again, and Rufus carried you birds don't 112 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 2: come here for the hunting. 113 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was. 114 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: And then there were two. 115 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: Well, the reason I bring this up, if someone is 116 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: systematically feeding your cat, you can if you live in Switzerland, 117 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: you can have them arrested. Really, this woman in Zurich, 118 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: an elderly woman is facing court accused of systematically feeding 119 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: her neighbour's cat. The cat's name is Leo, and because 120 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: she made it so easy for Leo to go in 121 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: there and be fed all the time. Leo didn't want 122 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: to return to his own home and the owners are 123 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: suing this woman, so she repeatedly fed Leo, who lives 124 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 3: in the same building, over a ten month period. Despite 125 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: her neighbor's requests for her to stop feeding Leo, she didn't. 126 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: She continued to defy their wishes. She installed a cat 127 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: flap on her door so Leo could come and go 128 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: as he pleased. The constant feeding and ease of entry 129 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: meant that Leo ended up abandoning his rightful owner and 130 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: instead favoring the old woman. She's facing charges of systematic feeding, 131 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: which is a criminal offense in Switzerland. 132 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: Says here. 133 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: While it sounds lighthearted, cases like this are increasingly landing 134 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: in court, with many pet owners reporting feeders who were 135 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: interfering with their cats. Because it's easy to buy a 136 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: cat's affection. Dogs not so much. You know, with a 137 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: cat can buy them off. They just go to the 138 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: nearest cat. 139 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't care where are the foods coming? That's right, 140 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: You do not want to interfere with your neighbors. 141 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: Pussy, because has this whole journey as lead to this. 142 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: At the next neighborhood watch meeting, it's going to be aud. 143 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: Right just where you're going for the minor birds. No, no, 144 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: let's let's pretend this is never. 145 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: What have you done up on the cutting room floor? 146 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: See I do something and then you do it worse. 147 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: You didn't need to do anything. 148 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: You could have just gone, what an interesting story and 149 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: left it at that. 150 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: What an interesting story. Let's leave it at that. Thank you, 151 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: roll the outro okay fires. That's it for today. Come 152 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: back tomorrowle More Jonesy