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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This podcast is

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Speaker 1: for women who want to take ownership of their lives,

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Speaker 1: live unapologetically, and are ready to turn their biggest dreams

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Speaker 1: into their reality.

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Speaker 2: If you're ready to be.

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Speaker 1: Armed with the tools that will inspire take bold action,

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Speaker 1: feel confident within yourself, and conquer your goals, then you've

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Speaker 1: come to the right place. I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer turned entrepreneur, co founder of Naked Harvest Supplements,

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Speaker 1: and social media personality with a community of over.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: I grew up believing I had to pursue the safe

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Speaker 1: option and fit.

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Speaker 2: Into a mold others had created for me.

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Speaker 1: But then I entered my corporate law job and I

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Speaker 1: realized that settling for a reality that did I didn't

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Speaker 1: set my soul on fire, was something I was not

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Speaker 1: prepared to do.

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Speaker 2: I wanted more, and I have a feeling you do too.

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Speaker 1: Join me and special guests weekly as we get down

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Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty on all things health, mastering your mindset,

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Speaker 1: creating lasting habits, thriving in your career and relationships, plus

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Speaker 1: so much more, and together we'll gain the knowledge and

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Speaker 2: Well, what are you waiting for? Let's Rise and Conquer.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer podcast. I'm so excited to bring you guys

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Speaker 1: today's episode. I'm joined by Lauren Kerr, who is a

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Speaker 1: mindset coach and mentor for thousands of women around the

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Speaker 1: world who want to create a life above zero. Lauren

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Speaker 1: holds a Bachelor of Psychology with honors and started out

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Speaker 1: working in child protection. Lauren soon realized that she wanted

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Speaker 1: to empower families, especially women, with education, awareness and support

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Speaker 1: to create a life they loved so they never ended

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Speaker 1: up in a bad place in order to escape. Since then,

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Speaker 1: Lauren has pivoted into starting her own business and has

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Speaker 1: become the author of her own book, Life Above Zero.

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Speaker 1: This is a term which comes from the positive psychology

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Speaker 1: field that reminds others that happiness is more than the

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Speaker 1: absence of unhappiness and disease. Her book provides you with

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Speaker 1: the practical skills and mindset backed by psychology and research

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Speaker 1: to help you unlock the code to success of your

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Speaker 1: life and beat the mental health epidemic. In our chat today,

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Speaker 1: we get down to how to live a life above

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Speaker 1: zero and be prepared to be inspired.

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Speaker 2: Guys, I hope you enjoy.

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Speaker 1: All of Lauren's valuable insights and some very important mental

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Speaker 1: health topics. Let's get into the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Lauren, thank you for coming on the show.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited, so excited. I wanted to ask you. This

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Speaker 1: is the first question that I asked all my guests

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Speaker 1: is what current season are you in? So what I

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Speaker 1: kind of mean by this is what are you honoring?

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Speaker 1: What are you prioritizing right now?

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Speaker 4: It's so funny these questions are actually reflecting on this.

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Speaker 4: The other day and I talked to a lot of girls.

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Speaker 4: I'm mentoring business that like life, and business happens in seasons,

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Speaker 4: like the seasons where you're hustling and there's other ones

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Speaker 4: and you're resting. And I'm literally just coming out of

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Speaker 4: season of resp I'm definitely coming out of three months

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Speaker 3: But it's not forever.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, one hundred percent. I'm right there with you,

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Speaker 1: selfish question, But what does your rest periods look like?

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Speaker 4: So I'm trying something new because I'm like a go getter,

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Speaker 4: just it's just how I'm wide, I think because I

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Speaker 4: I actually I'm getting a puppy in three weeks, and

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Speaker 3: I can just focus on having a puppy and enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that because I kind of had

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Speaker 1: telling Lauren before we jumped on. I just wasn't that well.

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Speaker 1: We were actually supposed to record this in the morning

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Speaker 1: I almost feel a bit guilty if I'm unproductive, but

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Speaker 4: And I think, isn't it funny as business owners, like

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Speaker 4: you sneakily take a sick day every now and then

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Speaker 4: just because you need it, like to fill up your carpet.

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Speaker 4: It's like, as business owners, we never do that. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: good on you for taking once.

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Speaker 2: A bit, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I already introduced you, but can you give

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Speaker 3: For sure?

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Speaker 4: So I like to identify vibing a happy person so

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what I wanted to be, but I

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Speaker 4: There's a stint working in child protection where I found

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Speaker 4: So as I did, I didn't know what I wanted

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Speaker 4: So I had this tug, and then I studied life.

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Speaker 4: that's kind of what I've been doing for the past

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Speaker 3: A book kind of came to me.

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of like a ten new journey in

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Speaker 3: But that's kind of how it went.

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Speaker 1: It's it's funny how things will come together when we

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Speaker 1: So it's called life above zero. Can you tell us

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because as you were saying that, it

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Speaker 4: It's your intuition telling you I know it's supposed to

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Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, it might have

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Speaker 4: Break up with your boyfriend, there's no need to take

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Speaker 4: And if you listen to it and you take the

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Speaker 1: Do you have any practical tips for the audience to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad you asked, because this is a process

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Speaker 3: So we've only just finished.

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Speaker 4: But if you go to my website, there's a free

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Speaker 4: happiness test that you can do, so anyone can do it,

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Speaker 3: Things that you think you're chasing. If that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: No, totally, I love that. I'll make sure I get

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Speaker 1: Grace to put a link in the show notes. Guys,

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Speaker 1: Before you were chatting about kind of this state of

463
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Speaker 1: getting to the point where you're not listening to your

464
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Speaker 1: intuition and correct me if I am wrong, But kind

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Speaker 1: of like self sabotaging in our life, can you run

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Speaker 1: us through you know what this can look like. I

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Speaker 1: know you did a great example, but also how we

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Speaker 1: can overcome this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, so we self sabotage for so many

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Speaker 4: different reasons. At the end of the day. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: a lot of your listeners probably already know this, because

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Speaker 4: I know you're a personal development junkie too, and I

473
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Speaker 4: think you've done a few episodes on it. But our

474
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Speaker 4: brain is amazing and it's actually really great at its job,

475
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Speaker 4: and it's evolved to keep us safe. So back in

476
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Speaker 4: the caveman days, we used to look to make sure

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Speaker 4: we're in a tribe, to make sure that if we're

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Speaker 4: in a tribe, we'll be protected from getting thrown out

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Speaker 4: to the wolves. Or if we're in a tribe, it

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Speaker 4: meant that we'd have helped building our shelter, or we

481
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Speaker 4: would always be on the lookout to make sure there's

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Speaker 4: no saber tooth tigers or anything that could kill us.

483
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Speaker 4: So we're always in fight of flight mode. And even

484
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Speaker 4: like thousands of years later, our brain is still evolved

485
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Speaker 4: to keep us safe, but we no longer have the

486
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Speaker 4: same threats for our safety, but the brain still looks.

487
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Speaker 3: For the same things.

488
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Speaker 4: So it's always comparing ourself to others to make sure

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Speaker 4: that we're fitting in so and get kicked out from

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Speaker 4: the tribe. And so what happens with that is if

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Speaker 4: we've got a goal, or we have something that we're

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Speaker 4: passionate about or something that we say is important to us,

493
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Speaker 4: but in the pursuit of that, it means we're going

494
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Speaker 4: to have to maybe draw attention to ourselves and we're

495
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Speaker 4: we're gonna get ridiculed and people would judge us, we

496
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Speaker 4: might get kicked out of the pack. Then we don't

497
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Speaker 4: do it when we self sabotage because rather than being fulfilled,

498
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Speaker 4: would actually rather be safe and comfortable. Or maybe you're

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Speaker 4: scared what other people are going to think. Maybe you're

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Speaker 4: scared of failure a goal, Like the very definition of

501
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Speaker 4: a goal, right is going after something which means stepping

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Speaker 4: out of your comfort zone. It's not staying in the

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Speaker 4: same spot. So the very pursuit of goals is you

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Speaker 4: stepping out of your comfort zone. And if our brain

505
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Speaker 4: is so smart at what it does and it wants

506
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Speaker 4: to keep us in our comfort zone, there's this like

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Speaker 4: there's this really strategic dance. And unless you have the

508
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Speaker 4: education on how you're psychologically wired and you have that

509
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Speaker 4: compassion to yourself, you don't beat yourself up when you

510
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Speaker 4: hear those thoughts come up. Worrying what other people think,

511
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Speaker 4: and worrying if you're going to be good enough, and

512
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Speaker 4: worrying if you fail. Like, those thoughts are normal, that's

513
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Speaker 4: your brain doing its job, but that's not you. And

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Speaker 4: if you keep listening to that, and you keep letting

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Speaker 4: those thoughts dictate you moving forward, then you're not to

516
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Speaker 4: move forward towards those goals, which is when you start

517
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Speaker 4: self sabotaging. But what SI, like what science and researchers

518
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Speaker 4: are also found, is that like progress, like challenging yourself

519
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Speaker 4: just a little bit, stepping out of your comfort zone

520
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Speaker 4: is also what you need to experience happiness. So it's

521
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Speaker 4: like this psychological phenomenon called flow, and to experience flow,

522
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Speaker 4: it means you need to stretch yourself a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So that's why a lot of people who don't have

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Speaker 4: goals or continuously self sabotage, they feel like they're in

525
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Speaker 4: a rut and in this same spot where they're not

526
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Speaker 4: feeling fulfillment, they're not feeling excitement, they're not feeling passion,

527
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Speaker 4: but it's because they're choosing comfort. So it's kind of

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Speaker 4: like this catch twenty two. You've got to decide whether

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Speaker 4: do you want comfort or do you want happiness because

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Speaker 4: happiness only is experienced when you're stretching your comfort zone

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Speaker 4: a little bit. But if you're not choosing to stretch

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Speaker 4: your comfort zone, you're going to self sabotage and stay

533
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Speaker 4: in your comfort zone, which is where you're comfortable.

534
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Speaker 3: But you can't have both.

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Speaker 1: So interesting, very much processing that all. It's funny because yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have definitely spoken about self sabotage, and we've spoken

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Speaker 1: about it a lot on the pod, but I love

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Speaker 1: I love the way that you explain that to the audience.

539
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Speaker 1: And it is it's so interesting, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Our bloody brain, it's.

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Speaker 3: So good at it.

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Speaker 4: We beat it up more so angry at it, but

543
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Speaker 4: you should be really thankful like our brain's serving. It's

544
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Speaker 4: just like you don't get angry at your heart for beating. No,

545
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Speaker 4: don't get angry at your brain for working. But you've

546
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Speaker 4: got to separate your brain from you, like your brain

547
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Speaker 4: is an organ which is amazing, which keeps us safe.

548
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Speaker 4: But you've got to learn how to separate yourself from

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Speaker 4: it and be like, oh my gosh, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that you're trying to keep me safe right now.

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Speaker 4: But I'm actually not at risk of getting hurt, and

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Speaker 4: I don't really care what people think about me because

553
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Speaker 4: I'm not paying my bills, Like I know, this is

554
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Speaker 4: what's going to make me happy.

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Speaker 3: So don't let other people's things and your.

556
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Speaker 4: Brain stop you from being happy or pursuing the things

557
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Speaker 4: that you know are important to.

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Speaker 2: You one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny that you say that, because a big

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Speaker 1: theme in our Facebook group right now, I've noticed quite

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Speaker 1: a lot of posts just asking people whether they feel

562
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Speaker 1: the same, and the theme is this want or intuition

563
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Speaker 1: feeling of there's something bigger out there, there's something different

564
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Speaker 1: I want, or you know, they might want to swap

565
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Speaker 1: careers or just something else, like almost that nagging intuition feeling,

566
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Speaker 1: but they don't know where to start, and they don't

567
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Speaker 1: know if they should listen, and they're just feeling a

568
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Speaker 1: little bit lost. What sort of advice would you have

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Speaker 1: for that person?

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Speaker 4: I think, first offely, gentle with yourself. There's something I

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Speaker 4: just want to touch on before as well, like those

572
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Speaker 4: thoughts and those thoughts come up. You're not broken, there's

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Speaker 4: nothing wrong with you.

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Speaker 3: You're humans.

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Speaker 4: So I think it all starts with compassion and just

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Speaker 4: being gentle with yourself and giving yourself space to just

577
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Speaker 4: reflect without judgment, like kind of think about like why

578
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Speaker 4: what's coming up for me? Journaling really helps sometimes it's

579
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Speaker 4: a bit chaotic in our heads. If you get it

580
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Speaker 4: down on paper, it just starts to empty and mix

581
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Speaker 4: some space in your head. But you make more clarity

582
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Speaker 4: of it as you start to write it down and

583
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Speaker 4: then asking yourself some really good questions. So the Happiness

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Speaker 4: test is probably something I'd recommend because the questions are

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Speaker 4: in there and it gets you thinking about like what

586
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Speaker 4: when was the last time you really were happy? And

587
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Speaker 4: what do you do purely for the sake of doing

588
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Speaker 4: it because you enjoy it? And when you're having a

589
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Speaker 4: bad day, what things do you do to fill up

590
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Speaker 4: your cup? Or when you're working or you're doing a task,

591
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Speaker 4: what kind of stuff you do where you experience flow,

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Speaker 4: which is where you're kind of just so aligned that

593
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Speaker 4: you don't notice how much time is passing by. So

594
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Speaker 4: when you do the quiz, it's going to elistit your

595
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Speaker 4: highest values, and then it's going to help you start

596
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Speaker 4: thinking about like, Okay, how can I incorporate these into

597
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Speaker 4: my current job? Maybe maybe it's maybe there's an opportunity

598
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Speaker 4: for you to pivot in your job or maybe try

599
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Speaker 4: a different role, or maybe incorporate more of these certain

600
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Speaker 4: things into your day, whebe it's inside your job, maybe

601
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Speaker 4: it's outside of your job. It might just be more

602
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Speaker 4: of these things into your relationships. It might be more

603
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Speaker 4: of these things into your morning ritual. You'll be surprised

604
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Speaker 4: when you start consciously adding more things that are of

605
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Speaker 4: your highest values. How your mindset or the way that

606
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Speaker 4: your outlook on life can change. But what the quiz

607
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Speaker 4: will also do is it's going to help you for

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Speaker 4: each of your values. That prompts you set like a

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Speaker 4: small goal. So it's awesome to have awareness, but if

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Speaker 4: you're just gonna yourself to do something about it, right, Like,

611
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Speaker 4: you can't just sit there and be like life's going

612
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Speaker 4: to change now that like I know what my highest

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Speaker 4: values are, like you've still got to act on it.

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Speaker 4: So it might be something really small. So once you

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Speaker 4: work out your values are, like set a little goal

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Speaker 4: for each and all, right, well, maybe my values music

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Speaker 4: And I've realized for the last three months, I haven't

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Speaker 4: gone to any concerts.

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Speaker 3: I'm not listening to music.

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Speaker 4: Maybe been binging on podcasts, like it could be simple

621
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Speaker 4: as like ditch the podcast the next couple of months

622
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Speaker 4: and just incorporate more music into your life. Or I know,

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Speaker 4: for me personally, something I realized and I did my

624
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: way happiness quiz is writing is actually really important to me.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny because I didn't realize that even when

626
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Speaker 4: I wrote my book. It wasn't because I was like

627
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Speaker 4: I want to write a book. It's kind of like

628
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Speaker 4: I just felt this communication going through and I felt

629
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Speaker 4: like there was this need to. But since finishing my book,

630
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Speaker 4: I've realized how much joy that brought me, and I've

631
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Speaker 4: realized I need incorporate writing just into my every day

632
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Speaker 4: to make me feel personally aligned. So yeah, I think

633
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Speaker 4: the happiness because is a really good thing just to

634
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Speaker 4: help you identify that, but it's also going to prompt

635
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: you to work out okay, well without judgment if I

636
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Speaker 4: just use this time to really explore and do some

637
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Speaker 4: soul searching, like is there an opportunity for me to

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Speaker 4: incorporate some of this into existing job, or if I

639
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Speaker 4: was to maybe pivot in my career. And I know

640
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Speaker 4: these are things that I'm good at, and these are

641
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Speaker 4: things I enjoy how could I monetize that, like it

642
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 4: might give you a bit of an indicative week and

643
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Speaker 4: start exploring if you do need to pivot.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree and again cannot wait to do.

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Speaker 1: Before we jump on to a bit of business talk,

647
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you one last I guess like

648
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Speaker 1: personal development sort of question. And I know in your

649
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: book you don't sugarcoat things, and you really chat about

650
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Speaker 1: your approach difficult times and your difficult times, and I

651
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Speaker 1: just want to know if you have any advice or tips,

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Speaker 1: especially at the moment, because I know there are quite

653
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that are going through really hard

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Speaker 1: difficult times, whether they've lost their job or you know,

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Speaker 1: something has happened, or they're going through a horrible breakup

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Speaker 1: or something like that. I wanted, I wanted to get

657
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Speaker 1: your advice on how you approach hard times and how

658
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: you kind of change your perspective when you are in

659
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Speaker 1: that really negative place.

660
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I so this is where I can get a

661
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 4: little bit polarizing for some Like I'm the girls that

662
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: I work with personally and coach, they'll tell you this,

663
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: But I'm a realist, so I don't sugarcoat things like

664
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: you said, I'm very direct because I care about you

665
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 4: guys too much. Just to tell your stuff that's going

666
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: to make you feel good. And at the end of

667
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: the day, if you're in a hard situation, like yeah,

668
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: it sucks, Like let's be honest. Life isn't fair, and

669
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: bad shit happens to good people every day. Like, we

670
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: don't have much control over what happens to us, but

671
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: the one thing we do have control over is how

672
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: we decide to respond. So when life happens, and maybe

673
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: it's not the way that you wanted it to, or

674
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 4: there's something you didn't plan, or maybe you find yourself

675
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 4: in a position right now, which is an ideal. First

676
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: things first, just let yourself feel it. Don't shrug it off,

677
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: don't suppress it, don't throw yourself a pity part and

678
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: tell yourself you're a shit personal or tell yourself that

679
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: you should be happy and you should be grateful, Like if.

680
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: You're pissed off right now, if you're upset right now,

681
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: be that.

682
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: Like if you suppress emotions, they just bubble up and

683
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: they're going to come back and buy you on the ass.

684
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: So let yourself have some time be gentle with yourself,

685
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: learn how to regulate your emotions in a healthy way.

686
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 4: So find some strategies that actually make you feel good.

687
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 4: Whether it's journaling. For me, I love running. I can

688
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: run emotions out. They feel so good to me. The beach, yeah, meditation, music,

689
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: time with friends, time alone, depending if you're an introvert

690
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 4: or an extrovert, where you get your energy from. But

691
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: I think firstly is just be gentle to yourself and

692
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 4: find ways to regulate your emotions in a healthy way,

693
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: but feel them. But then don't let a bad day

694
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: turn into a bad week and turn into a bad month.

695
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: Like ask yourself some better questions. So what do you

696
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 4: have control over right now? And if you don't have

697
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: control over much of what's actually happened, and think.

698
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: About, well, what's my next move going to be? Or

699
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: what's the gift in this? So what did I.

700
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: Learn from this? And just asking yourself some better questions,

701
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: because there's research and sciences has found one of the

702
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: biggest predictors in success in all areas of life is

703
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: whether you have a growth or a fixed mindset. So

704
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 4: if you're in a position like this and you're like

705
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: life sucks, this always happens to me, I'm never going

706
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: to get ahead. I'm never going to be successful, I'm

707
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: never going to make money. Well you're not because that

708
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: when you feel good, you do good right, and those

709
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: questions just make you feel shit.

710
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm stuck.

711
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere. But if you ask yourself better

712
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: questions like oh my gosh, that sucked, But what did

713
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: I learn from this? And where's the opportunity in this?

714
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: And how could I do better? How can I be better?

715
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: Or who can I talk to you? It's been a

716
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: similar situation, who do I talk to you? That could

717
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: give me advice? If I could do anything right now,

718
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: what would I love to do? So asking yourself better

719
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: questions not only makes you feel better, which is going

720
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 4: to make you do better, but those questions are going

721
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: to actually help you come up with solutions, which is

722
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: a growth mindset. So I guess, long story short, feel

723
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: your emotions, learn how to regulate them in a healthy way,

724
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: but then try to ask yourself some better questions and

725
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: see the opportunity in this. So and if you don't,

726
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: if you can't get out of that too, Guys, if

727
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: like a bad day does turning into a bad week

728
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: which does into a bad month. There's nothing wrong with

729
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: that either, Just go seek help from mental health professional. Like,

730
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: just because mental health isn't something you can see, it

731
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that it's not real. So there's definitely resources

732
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Speaker 4: and support out there for those people as well.

733
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Speaker 2: Amazing.

734
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Speaker 1: I love that, and I love that you touched on

735
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Speaker 1: regulating your emotions in a healthy way. Personally, I am

736
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: will preachly. I was the one that very much I

737
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: didn't feel safe feeling my emotions, so it almost like

738
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Speaker 1: didn't let myself ever feel emotion and so they're all

739
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: bottled insideay, just like almost didn't know how to deal

740
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: with them.

741
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Speaker 2: And I am.

742
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Speaker 5: Very open about working with a psychologists and dealing with

743
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 5: my emotions and that side of things, and that just

744
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 5: that bit of actually being it's okay to feel emotions

745
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 5: and then learning your way of dealing with them in

746
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 5: like a really positive, healthy way has just been game

747
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 5: changing for me.

748
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Speaker 2: So I love that you touched on that.

749
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so true.

750
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's switch it up and go back to

751
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Speaker 1: a little bit of business talk. So first of all,

752
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: this is like, this is just because I want to know,

753
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: because it's like no one really talks about it, But

754
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: how does one like start writing a book and what's

755
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: the process of getting it published? Because the way that

756
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: you speak it sounds like it was almost very simple.

757
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 4: No, man, it has been such a long journey. And

758
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 4: that's whole point of like social media hate people just

759
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: see the highlight reels, but for a lot of people

760
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 4: outside looking in, it looks like this box just popped

761
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: out of nowhere and it's a really pretty book, and

762
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 4: it's just everything just goes so smoothly, and I'm like,

763
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, if you only knew so Yeah, like

764
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 4: I said earlier, the book came to me like I

765
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: wrote the Skeleton. I think it's like maybe three or

766
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: four years ago. Now, like it was so long ago.

767
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 4: It feels like it's been such a long time coming.

768
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 4: I sat and once I had the Skeleton, I knew

769
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Speaker 4: about it. I sat on it for I think it

770
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: was like six weeks or two months, and I just

771
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I'm actually going to do this. And

772
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: then there was this thing like going back to that

773
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: tug in the gut, like there was just like I

774
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 4: don't know what you call intuition guidance. I don't know

775
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 4: if you guys are spiritual. But I was like, there's

776
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 4: something telling me I need to write this fricking book.

777
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: If I don't, it's not going to leave me alone.

778
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 4: It's fine, I'm going to do it. I commit to it.

779
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: So my news resolution two years ago was just to

780
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: write it. So for me, the way I kind of

781
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: run my business is I batch activities, so because each

782
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 4: activity kind of has a different energy and skills, said

783
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: on mindset, so Wednesdays will always my create creative day.

784
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: So I sat down and decided, all right, well, we

785
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: used to film a podcast on a Wednesday morning, and

786
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: then because we've got a podcast, but on the Wednesday afternoon,

787
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: I would be like, right, I'm going to sit down

788
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: and write my book. And I just spent like three

789
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 4: hours and I'd get in a really juicy spot where

790
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: I'd have my candle and all my incense. I'd get

791
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: a nice cup of tea to have some relaxing music on,

792
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: and I'd try to commit to writing one chapter. For

793
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: some people, this sounds crazy but just honestly just flew.

794
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 4: But I try to just write one chapter a day.

795
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: So if I was writing every Wednesday and there was

796
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Speaker 4: seventeen chapters, it took me seventeen wednesdays or seventeen days

797
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: or seventeen weeks, howe you want to look at it

798
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: to write the first draft. And then from there I

799
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: parked it again and I kind of hit it for

800
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 4: a couple of months, and then I went back and

801
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: then I read it and it in its entirety, and

802
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 4: I kind of made sure it flowed and I picked

803
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: at it, and then from there I went paid for

804
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 4: a professional editor, and then that was like a three

805
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: month process. And then so I think by that time

806
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: it's like a year. I think by the time I

807
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: got the edited book back, and then I was like, okay,

808
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: now what I do with it? Like this book is

809
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: an't going away? And then I started exploring whether I

810
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: wanted to self publish or go through a traditional publisher,

811
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: because I already run a business, like I just didn't

812
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: want It's just it's a big project. I didn't want

813
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 4: to have to try to promote it myself. I didn't

814
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: really have the avenues to do it well. So it's like,

815
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: you know what, I want a traditional publisher. I want

816
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: a team of people who know what they're doing. I'm

817
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 4: sick of winging things. I just want to do it well.

818
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 4: So I submitted my manuscript to some of the main

819
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: like just the major publishers.

820
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: In Australia or around the world really.

821
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Speaker 4: And most of them say it's like a six month wait.

822
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: So I just kind of sent them all off, prepared

823
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 4: myself for rejection, so I wasn't going to get attached.

824
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think within three months I got two

825
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: offers which came back, which was awesome. But then it's

826
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: kind of then working out what because a lot of

827
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 4: especially in the twenty first century've actually got a lot

828
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: of when you go to publish a book, you can

829
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: self publish, you can go through traditional publisher or it's

830
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: some publishers now who they you actually pay up front

831
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: for you to print your book. But then you can

832
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 4: still retain one hundred percent of your rights. And so

833
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: a lot of traditional publishers they will pay you in advancement,

834
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: but like long term, they're making all the profit that

835
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 4: you might get a dollar per book in the books

836
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: being retailed for forty bucks, and you don't.

837
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: You no longer own the rights to your book.

838
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: So I ended up choosing to go with a publisher

839
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 4: who I would pay upfront to help me with all

840
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: the distribution and to help me get in bookstores and

841
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: to help me like like make it pretty and do

842
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 4: all the like getting the book together. But I would

843
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: be able to retain one hundred percent of profits and

844
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: one hundred percent of the rights to my book. So

845
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: that happened last year, and then it was six months

846
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: from signing the contract to then getting the hard copy,

847
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: getting the book, printing the book, and then coronavirus happened,

848
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: then my books got stuck in China, and then and

849
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 4: then yeah, so then we're here, and then I'm up

850
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: signing an audio contract with publishing company, but they do

851
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: the audio, so I was happy to sign over my

852
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: audio rights to them because I have no idea where

853
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: to start with audio, and to be honest, I don't

854
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: think I'll do much with that. So if they want

855
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: to deal with that, make that their headache. They get

856
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: most of the profits from that, but I get the royalties.

857
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like a three four year journey

858
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: of how it came about.

859
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, Well, yeah, you definitely did it, and you

860
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: did it really well.

861
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: So congratulations what you.

862
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: Said about it just being a download and it just

863
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: feeling like something you have to do because like the

864
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: content in this book is it's not like it's small book,

865
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: it's substantial and there's so much research. There's so many

866
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: actionable tips and so much content. So yeah, you should

867
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Speaker 1: be so proud. It's amazing.

868
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Speaker 3: Thanks Mabe.

869
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: I always thought like why do I do my psych degree?

870
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: And if I didn't end up working in psychologists, what

871
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: was it? But honestly think the reason I was called

872
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: to study psychology was the book. So mental health doesn't

873
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Speaker 4: have to be doesn't have to be daunting or intimidating.

874
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Speaker 4: It's just a way that you guys can, especially young women.

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Speaker 4: It's the books aim for young girls, for us to

876
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Speaker 4: understand ourselves and being able to talk about mindset in

877
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Speaker 4: a way and mental health in a way we're not

878
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Speaker 4: intimidated to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love the book because it has a

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Speaker 1: lot of like kind of stuff that I already know

881
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Speaker 1: or chat about or believe in, but you just say

882
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Speaker 1: it in a way that it's almost like hard hitting

883
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Speaker 1: and you know when you just need someone to say

884
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Speaker 1: it in a different way and it just like embeds

885
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Speaker 1: and makes more sense.

886
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Speaker 2: So yeah, all about.

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Speaker 1: That, Okay, So I also want to chat about your podcast,

888
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Speaker 1: Babes talking business. I've been on it very very privileged

889
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Speaker 1: as so you're a co host and I love that.

890
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Speaker 1: And for you guys who don't know, so it's a podcast,

891
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: it's all about sharing behind the scenes of a business,

892
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the highlight reels and all that

893
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Speaker 1: sort of thing. So it's really good. You guys should

894
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Speaker 1: check it out. I make sure I put a link

895
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Speaker 1: in the show notes. But you guys discuss side hustles

896
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Speaker 1: a lot, and you even have a free leg side

897
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Speaker 1: hustle e guide, which I love. I want to chat

898
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Speaker 1: about that because I know a lot of girls who

899
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Speaker 1: listen to the RNC pod. I kind of you know,

900
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Speaker 1: they either have they're wanting to start a side hustle,

901
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Speaker 1: or they currently have a side hustle. So what advice

902
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: would you have for that person who wants to start

903
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Speaker 1: a side hustle that you know just aligns better with

904
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Speaker 1: their values and what actually makes them happy. What sort

905
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Speaker 1: of advice would you have for them?

906
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this.

907
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Speaker 4: It's funny because I never thought I'd be someone who

908
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: would like end up talking about business or be a

909
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Speaker 4: business coach or do a business podcast. But for me,

910
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Speaker 4: one of my highest values is freedom and empowering women,

911
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Speaker 4: And so for me, that's what business is. It's just

912
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Speaker 4: being able to create an additional income stream where we

913
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Speaker 4: can empower women with freedom, with choices. And I think

914
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Speaker 4: one thing I used to witness a lot in child

915
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Speaker 4: protection is a lot of women and finding themselves in

916
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Speaker 4: situations where they were stuck because of finances and they're

917
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Speaker 4: relying on a man for money, or they was saying

918
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Speaker 4: domestic violent relationships because of money. So if you're wondering,

919
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Speaker 4: like how do you go from like life coaching and

920
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Speaker 4: mental health to business, that's kind of how it all

921
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: comes together. I'm really passionate about empowering them with choices

922
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Speaker 4: and freedom. And I think money is to people make

923
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Speaker 4: it like money's taboo, but that's freedom and choices, especially

924
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Speaker 4: for women.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, on our.

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Speaker 4: Podcast, we have a lot of guest speakers come in

928
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Speaker 4: and yeah, sure, like just like you did, just share

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Speaker 4: the high not just the highlight reels, but what actually

930
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Speaker 4: takes to create an additional income stream and try and

931
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Speaker 4: not make it so get rid of all the jug

932
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Speaker 4: and that kind of intimidates women from talking about wealth

933
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Speaker 4: creation altogether. So if you're interested in creating an an

934
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Speaker 4: additional income stream if you have a side hustle, if

935
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Speaker 4: you want to start a high side hustle, definitely listen

936
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: to the podcast because I don't know at all. That's

937
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Speaker 4: why how the guest speakers common and they can share

938
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Speaker 4: their tips with you. But I think it just comes

939
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Speaker 4: back down to that, like asking it to some some

940
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: really good questions which are in that quiz or we

941
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Speaker 4: even have a free side hustle guide on the Babes

942
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: Talking Business website. You want to check it out, but

943
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: asking yourself questions like like what do I actually enjoy

944
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Speaker 4: if I could do anything? What would I love to

945
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Speaker 4: do if I wasn't worried about what people thought? What

946
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: would I do if money was unlimited? What would I

947
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Speaker 4: do if money didn't exist? What would I do if

948
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Speaker 4: time wasn't an issue? What would I do? What am

949
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: I good at? What's like your competitive edge? Like what

950
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 4: do you read books about all the time just because.

951
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: You enjoy reading them?

952
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: Or what do you love watching movies or documentaries about?

953
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 4: Like really start picking out, like personally, what makes you happy?

954
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: What do you enjoy?

955
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 4: What are you good at? What you could you immerse

956
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 4: yourself in for hours that time? Like time just you

957
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: don't even notice how much time passes by, because that's

958
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: a really good tell tale of a sign of maybe

959
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: what you should start, like like delving a little bit

960
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Speaker 4: further into and working out how can you monetize that?

961
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: So I think one thing I have learned from working

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00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: with women in business for the last four years is

963
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: that we have this misconception that business has to be

964
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 4: hard and it's got to be this struggle rather than

965
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: just allowing it to be easy. Like what comes to

966
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: you easy? What's a skill that you're just great at?

967
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 4: What advice can you give people? Like usually that's your

968
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: zone of genius, and you've just got to ask yourself

969
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: a really good questions and do some marketing research to see,

970
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: I there's other people already monetizing those things, or how

971
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: could you monetize those things and put your own flavor

972
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 4: on it. But yeah, we have a free side Hustle

973
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 4: guide on that website if you guys want to check

974
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: it out, and it takes you through a process and

975
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: like making sure that you're actually helping you craft your

976
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 4: own idea and making sure it's actually going to be

977
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: profitable before you go and do all the fun stuff

978
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 4: like creating Instagram pages or paying for a logo or

979
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: all the other stuff which people think is going to

980
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 4: be a business, but then they never actually end up

981
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: making money.

982
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Speaker 3: So yeah, hopefully that's.

983
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: Helped so helpful. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Well, it has been an absolute pleasure to have you

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Speaker 1: on the show, Lauren. And before we leave, something I

986
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: ask everyone is what's one thing? And there's no right

987
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: or wrong answer with this, what's one thing that motivates

988
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: you and keeps you doing what you're doing.

989
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 3: It's funny how it changes.

990
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if you resonate with this, but like

991
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: four years ago or five years ago, when I started

992
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: my business, what motivated me to keep going was actually

993
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 4: the pain of staying where I was, Like I knew

994
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't happy and if I didn't do something different,

995
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: nothing was going to change. So that drove me. But

996
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Speaker 4: since changing my circumstances, like I always say, people are

997
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: motivated by two things. You're either got you're someone who's

998
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: motivated by the carrot, which is like this shiny the

999
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 4: vision in front of you.

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Speaker 3: It's a fun thing.

1001
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 4: Or you're motivated by the whip, which is a thing

1002
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: behind you, which is like ay, like it's the pain,

1003
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 4: so that four or five years ago, it was definitely

1004
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: pain that drove me. I'm pretty open about that, Like

1005
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 4: I just wasn't happy. I was on the verge of burnout.

1006
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 4: I wasn't inspired. But I can say today what inspires me,

1007
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: what motivates me, is no longer pain. It's just creating

1008
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 4: the life that I want it. I want to live.

1009
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Speaker 4: And it's when I talk to girls who are where

1010
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: I was four or five years ago and they're like,

1011
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: I'm in a job I'm I'm fulfilled with, or I've

1012
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: got this business idea and I keep self sabotaging, or

1013
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: I'm just I just I just want to work out

1014
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 4: my mindset, Like why am I not happy? And when

1015
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: I talk to those girls, I'm just like, you know what,

1016
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: I've been there. I can get you out of there.

1017
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 4: Like that's what brings me joys. I think that's what

1018
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: motivates me to keep pushing myself and putting myself out

1019
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 4: of my comfort zone just so I can serve more people.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love that.

1021
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Well, thank you so much for coming on

1022
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Speaker 1: the show, Lauren.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me, honey. It's good catching up.

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Speaker 1: And that's a wrap on another episode of the Rise

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Speaker 1: and Conquer Podcast. I hope you got something valuable from it,

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Speaker 1: and I want to say a big thank you for

1027
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Speaker 1: tuning in. I really really do appreciate it. If you're

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Speaker 1: craving more than don't worry.

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Speaker 2: I've got you sorted.

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Speaker 1: We have our very own Rise and Conquer Community Facebook group,

1031
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Speaker 1: hundreds of like minded women joined to share in on stories,

1032
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Speaker 1: And if you loved listening as much as I loved

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Speaker 1: recording this episode, then please subscribe and leave a review.

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1042
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Speaker 1: at Georgie Stevenson. Once again, guys, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for tuning in. This is a totally independent podcast, so

1044
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Speaker 2: Hope you guys have

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Speaker 1: An amazing day or night whenever you're listening, and I'll

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