WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - To Assume or Not Assume, That Is The Question

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<v Speaker 1>Lifelun Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on Drug Wallamata Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of lifelu Cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany and I'm producer Keisha feeling in.

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<v Speaker 2>For you Laura. Yeah, it is therapy Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna cut and our very own, very beloved

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<v Speaker 3>Laura burn Or.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been working hard on something. She's been breadcrumbing and

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<v Speaker 1>feeding that to you. We've been joking that she's on

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<v Speaker 1>Ninja Warrior, so she's definitely at Ninja school today.

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<v Speaker 3>She does have an exciting announce been coming this afternoon

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<v Speaker 3>if you're listening to this as soon as the episode

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<v Speaker 3>comes out, but just so you do know, it's Ninja Worrior.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I know we're so annoying, Like we're the most

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<v Speaker 1>annoying people. I hate nothing more when someone's like, been

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<v Speaker 1>working on thing that's coming soon and then we don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you do You know what I love the most

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<v Speaker 1>is when people post that shit on Instagram and then

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that they announce is such a non.

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<v Speaker 3>Event that you're like, why did you try and create

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<v Speaker 3>hype about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I wouldn't give a fuck if.

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<v Speaker 3>You posted that without the hype up, but I care

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<v Speaker 3>significantly less because I feel as though the.

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<v Speaker 2>Climax of this announcements should have been high on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny too, when someone's like big change coming and

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<v Speaker 1>then they post their new hair or something and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a centimeter was trimmed off and you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa, that's a change. Did I miss something?

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<v Speaker 1>No, we had some great questions coming up, but before that,

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<v Speaker 1>we do want to get into something a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more serious, something that hasn't happened in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a bit of a drought. It is looking

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<v Speaker 1>like my skin. My skin is in a drought. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, it's like a cracked river bed. But we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to that in a minute. He's looking like producer

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<v Speaker 1>Keisha is getting the sack because she might have.

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<v Speaker 3>Herself a boyfriend and now we've got no one to

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<v Speaker 3>bring the trauma days. She's gonna be getting the sacked

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean a little bit behind the scenes action.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely lost some footage and some.

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<v Speaker 3>Before Oh no, Yeah, you're getting the sack that you

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<v Speaker 3>made some work mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, the main reason you'd be getting the sack

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<v Speaker 1>is because we don't really do happy in love here, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love ung hard. Now who do we throw to

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<v Speaker 2>the wolves?

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<v Speaker 3>You were almost worried when you started dating Ben. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember you actually being like, what are we going to

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<v Speaker 3>do now for content? Like how am I going to

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<v Speaker 3>bring shit to the table? Because that's kind of how

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<v Speaker 3>we connected. You know, there were many people that could

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<v Speaker 3>have been your producer, But I think when I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>to you guys, I was like, hey, look, I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of feel like we're gonna get along.

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<v Speaker 2>We trauma bond. We did we buy an email?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've ever have we ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Told that story? I'm sure we have at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Keisha, we just got an email. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of email slidings, but we got an email from

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<v Speaker 1>a girl named what I said was Kishia when I

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<v Speaker 1>read it out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically asking for a job.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a CV saying I like the podcast, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what I've done in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>I will do anything because it was tough, well it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was you know, COVID time. It was a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a rough time for.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people, and I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 3>was because we get all of different emails.

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<v Speaker 2>But I took it to Laura and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this girl's a job.

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<v Speaker 1>She seems pretty honor it, like, she seems pretty like

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<v Speaker 1>she'd fit in Laura's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like nah, now did she really?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Not because it's yeah, but more because we had never

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<v Speaker 1>had another employee forever.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just Laura and myself. But Laura didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to give up.

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<v Speaker 1>Not didn't want to, but it's always hard when you've

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<v Speaker 1>created something, when it's just the two of us that

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<v Speaker 1>worked in everything, it was really hard to give up

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<v Speaker 1>a piece to someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>And Laura always edited the podcast and we were bringing

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<v Speaker 2>you on to edit.

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<v Speaker 1>So for Laura it was a really big like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not ready to let that go yet. But she was

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<v Speaker 1>also drowning in work, and I was like, babe, make

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<v Speaker 1>your decision, because like you're sleeping for an hour and night,

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<v Speaker 1>so here is someone that can help us.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that.

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<v Speaker 3>Might've actually been something that I included because I'd come

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<v Speaker 3>from a radio background, and long story short, I was

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<v Speaker 3>made redundant, and I'd been looking for a job and

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<v Speaker 3>basically applying for all of these different media positions. And

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<v Speaker 3>I had a conversation with a friend of mine and

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<v Speaker 3>she was like, no, no, no, what do you actually want?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, who do you specifically want to work with?

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<v Speaker 3>And we went through a list of like do you

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<v Speaker 3>want TV? Do you want radio?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want podcasting?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I think podcasting what I really

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<v Speaker 3>like about it is that, like you can talk about

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<v Speaker 3>things you actually care about. There's a lot less filters

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<v Speaker 3>than traditional radio. You know, you can swear, you can

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<v Speaker 3>kind of talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you want or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And she was like, okay, cool, what podcasts do

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<v Speaker 3>you like? And the first one was Life on Cut.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, why haven't you messaged them?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, cause, you can't just do that

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<v Speaker 3>and she was like, what do you mean you can't

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<v Speaker 3>just do that that you can?

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out you can slide into their dms.

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<v Speaker 1>It was literally divine intervention because it was the night

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<v Speaker 1>before where Laura and I had a proper conversation where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, she wasn't sleeping very much

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<v Speaker 1>because she's so busy all the time. And we were growing,

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<v Speaker 1>but we weren't growing. Yeah, anyway, it was perfect timing.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's how Keisha ended up with us. But also

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<v Speaker 1>we got onto that story. Well it was the trauma bond, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the whole connection. Was also like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's also had a rough trot forever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I actually wrote to you guys, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, look, professionally, there are people who could probably

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<v Speaker 3>do this job better than I can, because there are

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<v Speaker 3>people who are going to be better editors and better

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<v Speaker 3>audio engineers and blah blah blah. But I think I'll

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<v Speaker 3>actually really get along with you because I also have

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<v Speaker 3>some really fucked up exits my soul.

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<v Speaker 2>You were like, great, we're on track.

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<v Speaker 1>But what this brings us to is we're putting applications

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<v Speaker 1>out for someone new that is also going through traumatic

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<v Speaker 1>times with their dating life because we need you on

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<v Speaker 1>it team.

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<v Speaker 2>No, KEI show looks like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me you've been going steady. Now you've been

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<v Speaker 1>going steady with someone And I say that because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been more than three days, which we haven't hit that

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<v Speaker 1>in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I getting it? Like my anxiety rash? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>tell us, what's the gosp And you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The other reason I know is that when I was

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<v Speaker 1>going over to see Ben Laurie's to make the joke

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<v Speaker 1>that I was peacocking, I was getting ready. You have

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<v Speaker 1>peacock hard, you wear nice clothes, You've got your eyebrows done,

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<v Speaker 1>your beautiful makeup, you're doing your.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair, and I'm like, there must be a special someone

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<v Speaker 2>at home you before Brittay goes over to see Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>The amount of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we have a shared calendar, she puts all of

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<v Speaker 3>her appointments in there so that I don't book things

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<v Speaker 3>for when they're busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Appointment you get WHA's the back appointment? Laser from the eyebrows? Mowdown.

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<v Speaker 3>No, look, it's very early days, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to speak out of turn.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very very early days. But I have been enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>the company of one person. The bar was so low.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? What does make him sound very good?

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<v Speaker 3>This is what's been quite a big surprise to me

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<v Speaker 3>is that this is probably one of the first times

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<v Speaker 3>in quite a long time. And I'm going to say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that everyone that I've dated in the past

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<v Speaker 3>has been horrible because they have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Some have been great people, but I don't think i'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Realized until I actually went on like my first date

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<v Speaker 3>with him, that, my god, like what I had become

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<v Speaker 3>accustomed to accepting us like normal dating behavior, it was

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<v Speaker 3>just getting really down in the pits, down in like

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the barrel type area of what you

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<v Speaker 3>should expect, like respect from someone.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck is that? Totally?

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember, I mean you and I have gone

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<v Speaker 1>from many walks and had many of conversations about our

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<v Speaker 1>dating life. And I remember one day we pulled each

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<v Speaker 1>other up. Yeah, I think you actually said it.

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<v Speaker 3>You were like, oh my god, he's just so sweet,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, what did he do?

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, he wrote back a piece of salmon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Dalilah was with me when I went to visit

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<v Speaker 3>for lunch one.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, and what are we going to call him? I

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<v Speaker 2>actually call him. You want to call him Toplane.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not anything, it's top gra nickname for me. But

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<v Speaker 3>he did cook Delila a piece of salmon, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Which means he's winning me over.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're going to treat my dog, if you to

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<v Speaker 3>cook her salmon, because you know that's what she.

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<v Speaker 2>Likes to waiters. Have you had the talk? No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting to thirty soon. I'm not going to get into

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<v Speaker 2>a third base that you know, it's serious. We are

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<v Speaker 2>hitting third day. Do you still have the conversation? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting to this age, I'm like, surely you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to have that chat anymore, because realistically, if I find

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<v Speaker 3>myself wanting to go and hook up with another person,

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<v Speaker 3>then like, what's the difference if I've had the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>of is this exclusive or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I would just.

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<v Speaker 3>End it and then do you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think people have the conversation still, yes, do go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Because if you don't have the conversation, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole past, it's a ticket, it's an excuse that if

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<v Speaker 1>they do go and hook up with someone else, you're like, well, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I didn't know we're exclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>We never had that. They win that argument because you

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<v Speaker 2>never had the conversation. But like, that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>If he wanted to go and hook up with someone else,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's to me is like, oh okay, well then

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't see this.

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<v Speaker 2>Going where I may be thought it was going.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because you've done that in the past, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that's a bad thing, but like, you've dated

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<v Speaker 1>people casually in the past that you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite liked, Yeah, not exclusive.

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<v Speaker 3>You've hooked up with someone else and you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're not exclusive.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a conversation yet you have to have.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the fact that like I had hooked

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<v Speaker 3>up with someone else is the indication that I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>that into the person.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's very implied. I do think, No, you're wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>You're making a mistake. Don't assume you know what that says.

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<v Speaker 1>You make an ass out of you and me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think of what Ben and I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Ben was trying to lock you down. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>for the moment he got laid tell everyone never exen

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<v Speaker 2>like it.

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<v Speaker 3>And Britt was like, oh, you keep some wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>have this conversation with me about you know, whether we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing each other or not. But I think I need

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<v Speaker 3>to go over and spend some proper time with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's definitely leading in that direction, and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm going to be investing any time in someone else,

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<v Speaker 3>but we need to spend more time together before I

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<v Speaker 3>actually make that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>You were the one who was commitment phobic. You say that,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a surprise. We know I have commitment issues. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He never hid that he wanted a relationship, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would just say to him straight back, like we're not

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<v Speaker 1>there yet, like I really like seeing you, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>not there, And he's like, that's okay, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be I'm just telling you what I like. He

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<v Speaker 1>was just so forward with his feelings, which I loved,

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<v Speaker 1>but he kept saying things like, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you wouldn't see anyone else, would you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Like the question that was like it passed off

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<v Speaker 3>was rhetorical, but he was actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to dig for a bit more information.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was trying to make it like dah w

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<v Speaker 1>we'ere obviously at the place where we're seeing each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think it's an employed Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's implied, like you might move in together

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<v Speaker 1>straight away. All the COVID times, you know, when people

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<v Speaker 1>ended up dating for two weeks COVID happened, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's of course implied that you're together. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>at your stage, like I mean, you have spent three

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<v Speaker 1>nights in a row with him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not used to having something. I think I've become

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more like you. We've been spending too much

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<v Speaker 3>time together. I'm just morphing into Brittany gradually because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess people on podcasts might not know this, but

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<v Speaker 3>we actually spend a lot about personal life together as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite co professional codependent. I said to him last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I haven't spent this amount of time

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<v Speaker 3>with the one person except for britt for a very

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<v Speaker 3>long time life, and I'm just not used to it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, look, taking things slowly in my mind, and

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<v Speaker 3>I will give an update on where it goes. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also actually genuinely interested. I might put this up

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<v Speaker 3>on an Instagram story today and ask you whether you

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<v Speaker 3>think you still have to have the conversation to me.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the first year of my life that I

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<v Speaker 3>have thought, nah, I don't need to I don't need clarity,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, you could regret that maybe any but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. Every year up until this point I would

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<v Speaker 3>have been like, oh, yeah, like I'd like to have

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<v Speaker 3>that conversation, but I have anxiety about it, or like

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<v Speaker 3>I feel a little bit uncomfortable about maybe how they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna respond. I genuinely have just I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>I got to this place, but I've just moved to

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<v Speaker 3>this point where I'm like, night, I actually don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about having the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely think there's a time too of your life

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<v Speaker 1>where and I think you're entering it where you've been

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<v Speaker 1>shit on so many times that your care factor goes

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<v Speaker 1>down a little bit and you're like, cool, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna put the energy in even if you're interested.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I'm not gonna give it the energy that.

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<v Speaker 2>I normally would have.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean the good energy, like of course

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<v Speaker 1>you're putting effort into the dating, but I mean when

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<v Speaker 1>something starts to go south. You used to not you,

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<v Speaker 1>but people we would dwell on it, would talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>would wonder why should I triple text them?

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<v Speaker 2>They've goes to me?

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<v Speaker 3>But now you sort of would be like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>he was a dickhead, like who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>Move on, look for the next good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so crazy because I feel as though this is

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<v Speaker 3>the first time I've given no fucks, like just been

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<v Speaker 3>like oh whatever, it is what it is, And you

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<v Speaker 3>had said this to me for so long, being like

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as you get to that point, you are

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<v Speaker 3>so insanely attractive to men.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, my dms.

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<v Speaker 3>They've never been for they've never been lit up like this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a moth to a flame. It's like they

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<v Speaker 3>can sense that you don't want like that. You're just like, ohren,

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<v Speaker 3>give fuck, like you had your chance for literally six months.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't come messaging me now. I don't want to hang

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<v Speaker 3>out with you now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just need someone to break you that last time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so broken.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't break me anymore. That's what it's mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's you're on the ground, horizontal. There's only

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<v Speaker 3>one way, and that's up. That's where you are. You're flying,

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<v Speaker 3>soaring high.

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<v Speaker 2>Dating lives are so fucking grim. No, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to say you're happy. And I have spoken

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<v Speaker 1>to him. I have not met him, but I've spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to him. He seems like a lovely man and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait for the update.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have been wondering about your skin.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been posting a little bit of stuff on Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>about the skin treatment that you're doing because you had

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<v Speaker 3>some pre cancer or cells and you've been was it

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<v Speaker 3>a cider toxic treatment or something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pre cancer cells founded a skin check and I've

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<v Speaker 1>can get a lot of questions, so I'm gonna spell

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<v Speaker 1>it out a little bit. But I went to a

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<v Speaker 1>proper skin cancer clinic because a lot of people have said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>did you go to just a GP or like who.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go to?

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<v Speaker 1>So to be clear, I went to a skin cancer specialist,

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<v Speaker 1>but I went for a a check up. But be

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things that really were prominent on my

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<v Speaker 1>face that had been there for a while, just darker areas,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing extravagant. A couple of little, darker pigmented areas, and

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out there, yeah they're pre cancer, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>okay now, but chances are they will.

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<v Speaker 2>Turn into cancer if I leave them.

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<v Speaker 1>So you put this side a toxic cream on kills

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<v Speaker 1>your face basically peels off. Another question I've been getting

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<v Speaker 1>is do you just spot put it on on the

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<v Speaker 1>three spots that I had, But you do not.

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<v Speaker 2>You put on your whole face.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm lucky that I did because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other areas have been coming out that are bad. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of other bad areas in my face.

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<v Speaker 3>Your skin when you don't have anything on it, it

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<v Speaker 3>looks really painful, it looks really sore. And I know

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<v Speaker 3>that people who have been listening to the podcast consistently

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<v Speaker 3>are probably like, Oh, you're still banging on about this

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<v Speaker 3>skin thing. I cannot tell you how many messages we

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<v Speaker 3>are getting to the DMS about your skin treatment. And

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<v Speaker 3>I want to thank you because because of you, I

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<v Speaker 3>have booked in for a skin check and I'm pretty overdue.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had quite a lot of things cut out of

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<v Speaker 3>my body because I got up at the beach and

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<v Speaker 3>I spent a lot of time in the sun as

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<v Speaker 3>a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>But I it's something that I was kind of I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Been putting it off, but I just haven't had that

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<v Speaker 3>motivation to be like, oh, just book it in and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Important, right, You're always like, I know I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, but I'm busy this week. And it's an

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<v Speaker 1>easy when there's not a real thing that's worrying you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an easy put off.

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<v Speaker 2>I only told you guys about it last week.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess the reason we talk about it is

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<v Speaker 1>it's an ongoing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the next three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using the terms eats my face, like I keep saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it will continue to eat my face for like three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to put a bit of makeup on today

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<v Speaker 2>because we.

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<v Speaker 1>Had so many interviews, but I don't think I'm supposed to,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't tell my doctor. And my face is like

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<v Speaker 1>covered in red blisters and they're getting worse, so it'll

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<v Speaker 1>continue to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get worse for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had so many responses to my Instagram stories that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been posting about it. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for sharing, which are amazing because people have contacts

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<v Speaker 1>and relations that have had cancers and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of people being like, you're so brain

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<v Speaker 1>for putting this out, so thank you so much, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're so brave for showing your face like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're brave, stunning and brave, which I did find the

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<v Speaker 2>old me for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Five years ago, I would have probably just hid myself

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<v Speaker 1>away and been like I'll do my treatment like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Corella de Ville, and then like I'll re emerge in

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<v Speaker 1>a month. But now it doesn't bother me, like people

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm locking myself away. I'm coming to the radio

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<v Speaker 1>station every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I was surprised that you put on Instagram because you

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<v Speaker 3>were texting Laura and I over the weekend, and then

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<v Speaker 3>when I saw them on your stories even I was like, whoa.

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<v Speaker 3>And for anyone who hasn't seen them, you probably think

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<v Speaker 3>that we're just talking about like a bare face photo.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty visceral because it looks like a really severe

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<v Speaker 3>chemical burn. And I was even surprised that you were

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<v Speaker 3>willing to be that. I hate this word, but vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know why because I know people that

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<v Speaker 1>have died of skin cancer, and I know if one

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<v Speaker 1>person goes and gets their skin checked and saves themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be happy. But to know that so many people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, far out, it's just my skin. You've already

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<v Speaker 1>got a friend, you've already locked them down. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter what you look like anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I made him sign a contractor said, you can't just

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<v Speaker 2>like to escape.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to tell you a story about what happened

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<v Speaker 3>with one of my best friends the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>The tl DR too long didn't read version? Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>What that means t LT. I've read that on.

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<v Speaker 3>So many like news articles, and sometimes you say ship

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, you're such a boomer at heart, I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted you think it meant.

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<v Speaker 1>I always knew that it meant something like he's a summary, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like Latin like et cetera. It's like everything

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<v Speaker 2>like was the other one the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know AI chat thanks GP, chat GP chat

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<v Speaker 3>GPT was And then you tried to say that I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what it was because I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>the GP or the T stood for exactly, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know. You sort of alluded to I know what

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<v Speaker 3>chat GPT is. But it's okay, Grandma, we'll get you there,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend and I were.

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<v Speaker 3>Chatting about her basically, she's in a Newish relationship, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we were talking about their sex life and

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<v Speaker 3>something came off and I can't actually remember how we

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<v Speaker 3>got from A to B. She's very into star science

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<v Speaker 3>and astrology and all of the things that go with

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<v Speaker 3>the moon phases. She turned to me and she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh no, no, no, no, no, my libido is completely

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<v Speaker 3>off at the moment. It's not the moon phase to

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<v Speaker 3>be having sex tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, was this the first time?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no month, I'm they're about to get jigging. She's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>the moon, the moon cycle? He says, no, effecting my libido?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a thing? Do you reckon? The moon affects

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<v Speaker 2>your I don't think there's any science behind the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the moon changes your libido. I think you go

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<v Speaker 2>of how you feel. Don't you not like the moon? Said?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Like headache?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, But I don't think you can say the moon

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<v Speaker 3>has put such I mean the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Gives you a headache? Or do you mean a headache

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<v Speaker 2>is good enough reason?

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<v Speaker 1>No, the headaches are good enough for reason for an

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<v Speaker 1>excuse like a headache is the go to standard.

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<v Speaker 3>So we did have a bit of a laugh about this,

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<v Speaker 3>and we put it on our Instagram story. What's the

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<v Speaker 3>silliest reason you've give been a partner for not wanting

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<v Speaker 3>to have sex?

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<v Speaker 1>My faked hand was developing that I didn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be patchy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's valid, or you don't want the lines or the streaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking this the next level, if you have done a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh tan for something like there's a wedding or something,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your hand, so it's not on like you

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<v Speaker 1>do it on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Saturday. Now. Sperm takes the tein off. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so like a city. It can strip the tear. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got a special event on, don't let them

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<v Speaker 2>go and no sex, say it, don't spread it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a real thing. There you go. Yeah, how's this?

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<v Speaker 3>I was car bloading for a CrossFit competition the next

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<v Speaker 3>day and I didn't want to expel any energy. Not fair,

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna save it for the clean and presses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of athletes won't do that, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good dig. It was hair washing night.

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I weeling on.

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<v Speaker 3>Board with all these excuses? It's all from my diary.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been reading my diary? I don't want the

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<v Speaker 3>dog to become anxious by being on the other side

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<v Speaker 3>of the door fit.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing more putting off when your dog's whimpering too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think you've been murdered, but you're just having

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<v Speaker 1>a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is this is crip.

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<v Speaker 3>My grandma had passed away, and I said I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want her to see it from heaven. What's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a long life, isn't it? How long do you think

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<v Speaker 3>she goes to heaven for it's not a pit stop.

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<v Speaker 3>She's up there to stay. We had Mexican tonight. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>like gassie chili. There's nothing more off pudding than when

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<v Speaker 3>you've had a huge dinner and someone wants you to

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<v Speaker 3>roll and bounce around. Yeah, like you're just you're sitting

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<v Speaker 3>heavy in the belly.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like Italian Mexican are like Starfish night.

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<v Speaker 1>Sushi's probably sushi's lighter reverse cowgirl night like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably equivalent. It's like you've had a salad, you're

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<v Speaker 2>in fruit. I said, I have laser books tomorrow, and

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't allowed. You can't just make that off. It's

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<v Speaker 2>science sex. After you've had laser I think you can

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<v Speaker 2>do what you want.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably say, I'm pretty sure that they tell you

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<v Speaker 3>like no active where no stress, sweaty environments. Really yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you've got to put that laser a cream on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's a lot. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that's a fo that's a lot of laser upsell you

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<v Speaker 3>don't which I still to this day find very strange

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<v Speaker 3>because it's the same price as Brazilian waxing, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't pay for it. I do my own Brazilian. I'm amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can wax that whole thing in two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>You could time me. I'd win a competition. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to do that. You can watch me. Why I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to watch you do? How are you ever

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<v Speaker 2>going to believe me that I I reckon? I could

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<v Speaker 2>fall Brazilian? Two minutes? How do you get the back

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<v Speaker 2>without you seen that photo? My leg behind my head.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty pretty flexible, nah, two minutes. I on paper.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done my own Brazilian since I was sixteen. I

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<v Speaker 2>find that so strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, before we get into the questions, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do Vible unsubscribe, Kisha, do you want to kick it off?

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<v Speaker 3>I have got an unsubscribe that I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>agree with. You know, when you purchase an Apple product

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<v Speaker 3>and you get three months of free Apple TV and

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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty alluring, you're like, oh, yeah, that's not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety days pretty good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I bought a pair of AirPods six months ago. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it was only to the other day that I was

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<v Speaker 3>going through my subscriptions because I keep on having these

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<v Speaker 3>weird things, like you know, when you get the email

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Been taken out. I happened to me today, I unsubscribe

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<v Speaker 1>from something to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, what is what are all these

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<v Speaker 3>weird subscriptions and they're not much money? I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was like seven ninety nine, but they fucking get me

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<v Speaker 3>every single time, like always forget to unsubscribe or to

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<v Speaker 3>set a reminder to unsubscribe, so your unsubscriber is unsubscribed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm unsubscribing from signing up. When you are offered free

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<v Speaker 3>trials for things, No sign up and get the free stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But does you have to just remember to cancel it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we don't remember stuff like that. I have

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<v Speaker 1>been paying today was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like fifty nine dollars or something renewal for a photo

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<v Speaker 3>editing app that it just changes the.

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<v Speaker 2>Color of the background and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, how long have I been paying

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<v Speaker 1>for I went to look at it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what app is that? It's not even on my phone anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's something that is from like five.

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<v Speaker 2>Years ago that has been auto subscribing. Don't even use it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we all need to go through our subscriptions and

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<v Speaker 3>unsubscribed from stuff that we're paying for that we don't use.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a bigger busted gal. I used to keep

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<v Speaker 3>this a secret. I don't know why. I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about it anymore. I'm a natural ten f So these

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<v Speaker 3>puppies needed. It's not everyone talks to you like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, I would kill to have big boobs. Big boobs, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I want to love my body and all

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<v Speaker 3>that jazz.

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<v Speaker 2>They're fucking annoying when gravity is taking over. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you really suit big boobs. So like, your boobs.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't look like they're that big like you. It must

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<v Speaker 3>just be theirs well dispersed.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but they don't. You know some people you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>wholl they're giant. Well, I'm getting older, so they are

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<v Speaker 2>gradually migrating south.

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<v Speaker 3>I was maybe they're just more across mytel So no,

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<v Speaker 3>you suit it look bras when you're a bigger busted person.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have come a long way. They used to

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<v Speaker 3>be available in three colors only white, black, or nude,

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<v Speaker 3>and they still look like they belonged to your eighty

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<v Speaker 3>year old grandmother. We've come a long way in that sense.

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<v Speaker 3>You can get nice lacy and pretty patterns or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>but something I've never been able to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>cute bralettes.

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<v Speaker 2>You wear them all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time and they look so cute on you and you

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<v Speaker 3>can just get the little bit of lace hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>of your top or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Hasn't been an.

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<v Speaker 3>Option for us buster yells. Anyway, I found this website.

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<v Speaker 3>This is completely unsponsored. It's called Nala. I think they're

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<v Speaker 3>based in New Zealand. They do bralettes, so they're completely

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<v Speaker 3>wire free and they're really supportive. So they do them

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<v Speaker 3>in actual cup sizes, because usually when you get brolettes

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<v Speaker 3>they're like small, medium, large. I think they go up

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<v Speaker 3>to like an H cup or something like that, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're actually nice. So I have been wearing those

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<v Speaker 3>NonStop for the past couple of weeks. Highly recommend So

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<v Speaker 3>that is my vibe for the week I'm wearing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that small busted women can wear them too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, they've got ones for small busted women as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't mean to be like, oh, it's only

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<v Speaker 3>for the roster goals, but it's just that we tend

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<v Speaker 3>to find these things a lot harder to come by totally.

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<v Speaker 3>What is your vibe or unsubscribed from the week.

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<v Speaker 1>My ViBe's very easy. I'm a binge netflixer. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've watched this three seasons of this now and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm vibing it to.

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<v Speaker 2>You, guys, because it's officially over.

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<v Speaker 1>I just watched the final episode of season three and

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<v Speaker 1>I was so moved.

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<v Speaker 2>I was bulling my eyes out, But.

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<v Speaker 1>For all these different reasons, because it's over, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>sad parts, like what I do with my life now?

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<v Speaker 1>Firefly Lane Firefly Lane with Catherine Heigel and Sarah Chalk. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who Sarah Chalk was before Firefly Lane.

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<v Speaker 1>In all honesty, I feel like she was an actress

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<v Speaker 1>that I'd seen around, but she's so brilliant in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, the writing, the cast, the acting, the plot,

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<v Speaker 1>character development, and like you guys know, I'm into all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, but it was just truly, truly brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually can agree with this because I have also

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<v Speaker 3>seen it. But I'd seen posts in our Facebook group

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<v Speaker 3>Life on Cut discussion group if you want to join

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<v Speaker 3>it of people being like I need to discuss the

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<v Speaker 3>ending with someone, So I felt like I was prept

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<v Speaker 3>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I wish I don't want to give you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Any spoilers, but I quite liked that. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>traditional ending, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'll say. It was a bit real life, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is important.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people want to go and do a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a fairy tale and yeah, I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>much more because it'll ruin it, but it's it's brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for a new TV series.

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<v Speaker 2>Three seasons Fireflight Lane. Do you know what I really

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<v Speaker 2>liked about the show?

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of flashes back to earlier times in their lives, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and I found myself equally invested in each of the

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<v Speaker 3>storyline as like in each of the time periods of

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<v Speaker 3>their life. I cared about all of them equally, which

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<v Speaker 3>is really rare for shows like that. Also, there's an

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<v Speaker 3>Australian actor in there, Ben Laws, and I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I met him at a bar and BONDI a couple

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<v Speaker 3>months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Lovely guy. Yeah, he's a local bird.

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<v Speaker 3>I turned around, were at the bar at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>and I looked at him and you know when you

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<v Speaker 3>have that moment where you're like, where do I know

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<v Speaker 3>you from?

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<v Speaker 2>And it clicked and I went, ah, I love that

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<v Speaker 2>show that you do on Netflix. And he's like thanks, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like me with Sam Worthington when I thought I'd slept

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<v Speaker 2>with him, but it's not. I just realized it was

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Worvision anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>He Let's get into your deep, dark and dirty questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, question number one.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's a timely question actually because Mother's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a bit mothered related.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, ladies, I need some advice. I have a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a troubled relationship with my mum. Nothing she has

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<v Speaker 3>done has been actually problematic.

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<v Speaker 1>We just simply don't get along. I find her to

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<v Speaker 1>be excessively passive, aggressive, She belittles how I parent, and

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I think about going to family events or talking

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<v Speaker 1>to her, it causes me a lot of anxiety. With

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<v Speaker 1>Mother's Day coming up this weekend, I'm feeling super uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>about having to be all lovey dovey and get her.

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<v Speaker 2>A gift and tell her she's a good mum when

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel that.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really guilty for feeling like this because I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people have it a lot worse.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm meant to be taking my two kids to see

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<v Speaker 1>her on Sunday for Mother's Day, and I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>so uncomfortable. Does anyone else feel like this? What should

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<v Speaker 1>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the thing that is really hard when you

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<v Speaker 3>become an adult is that you can have these members

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<v Speaker 3>of your family, and regardless of how directly you're related

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<v Speaker 3>to them, the question of like I love this person

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<v Speaker 3>because they raised me, or they had a big impact

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<v Speaker 3>on my upbringing, or you know, they are my family.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this person, but do I like them? And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that can be a really hard thing

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<v Speaker 3>to battle with when either you have someone in your

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<v Speaker 3>family that you either don't respect or you don't agree with,

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 3>or you constantly argue with, and like that. I mean,

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:26.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to go too much into my own

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 3>personal life, but there is someone in my immediate family

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<v Speaker 3>that I very much have this type of.

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<v Speaker 2>Relationship with, and I really struggle.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can understand when you say, like, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>guilty around these kind of days because I know that

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 3>other people have it much worse.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we know that Mother's Day in particular is

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<v Speaker 2>a really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Day for people who have lost their mom or who

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<v Speaker 3>maybe never had a mom for you know, many other

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<v Speaker 3>reasons as well. But it's okay that it's also something

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 3>that you struggle with I think we are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>told this narrative of like, this is the person that

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 3>you are supposed to be the most detail connected with

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 3>of anyone in your entire life. And a lot of

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 3>people do have that relationship with their mum, but you

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 3>just happen to not have that relationship with your mum.

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 3>So the first thing is, I don't think you should

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 3>feel guilty for feeling this way, because I think that

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 3>actually a lot of people have quite complex relationships with

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 3>the people that you're expected to love. You've said this

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<v Speaker 3>Mother's Day, you feel a bit awkward about going and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, getting the gift and doing the.

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<v Speaker 2>Whole Okay, it's probably because you feel a bit like it's.

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Fake, Like you feel like you're putting on a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a show, you know, Do I think you should

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<v Speaker 3>just suck it up and put on the show. To

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<v Speaker 3>a degree, I actually agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I agree with that is I just

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<v Speaker 1>reade the question and how to think about it again.

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>But you've said, like, nothing she's done is problematic, we

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<v Speaker 1>just don't get along.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>That's a quote.

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Nothing she's done is problematic, we just don't get along.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just find at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she is your mother and she's brought you up

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and personalities don't get along.

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 3>But I think that still means a lot, and it

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 3>would probably still mean a lot to her.

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Can you suck it up for your kids to spend

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>time with their grandma as well, because you're taking the

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>kids there?

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you can. It's a completely different story.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>If you genuinely are at wits end with each other

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and you hate each other and to test each other

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and you disagree on everything and anything, then like, no,

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you obviously don't have to force yourself to be in

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>any situation. But the other thing is if it's actually

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>giving you genuine anxiety, you need to maybe work out

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>why and what you can do to limit that. Is

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>there a way that the kids can spend time with

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>your grandma and maybe you don't have to be there,

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe like I have to run some errands, would you mind,

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, having a grandma daughter day, Like just palm

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>them off, palm them off, go get a message.

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 2>But I think if she hasn't actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Done anything, it would probably you know, difference in personalities,

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 3>but it's probably gonna mean a lot to her to spend.

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Some time together. I do hear what you're saying.

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I think the part that I can put myself in

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 3>this situation is that after experiencing time with a person

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 3>in my life that I feel similarly to this person,

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 3>I feel so fucking drained. I could go in at

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent and my percentage will be on one

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 3>when I leave, because I'm just sitting there being like

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be having these conversations. These are

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 3>so fake and phony conversations. But the one thing that

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>I have found that has really helped do group events.

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've got siblings or in activity, Yeah, yeah,

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 3>so own activity.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a great idea. Go for a walk, do something

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>with your kids.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Basically, try and find a way to create a situation

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>where you don't have to talk all that much about

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>your life and you can talk about.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 2>What's going on around you.

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like small talk on steroids, and it's really uncomfortable

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>that it has to be with your mum.

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like why you used to take Delilah.

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>And all your dates, your first dates, because you're like,

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>we go for a walk, it's something we can all

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about just in caves.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Try and limit the amount of one on one conversation

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have to be having. You've said that they

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 3>can be really passive, aggressive, you feel like she belittles you,

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 3>and how you parent just try and take all those

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 3>conversations off the table. Talk about your kids the whole time,

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 3>but not how your parents can just talk about what

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 3>they're doing.

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>At school or whatever it is.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, the other thing is you said that you're feeling

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>super uncomfortable about having to be a lovey dovey get.

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>A gift tell us she's a good mum.

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to do that gift card Like no,

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 3>because I'm like my mum.

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>And I are really close, so I can't relate in

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 2>that sense. But we are not lovey dovey at all.

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 2>We'll hang out and spend time together.

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Do I write her a mushy No, No, She'd probably

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>think I was dying if I did, and reverse if

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>she wrote me something mushy or said something mushy, because

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>we just don't have that relationship.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think that's the only way to convey love.

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes people get that mixed up. You can

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 3>do something, bake them something. You don't have to do

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 3>something that you're uncomfortable with by being like over the

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 3>top mushy.

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's an important thing too. I think

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>people get swept away with like it's like Valentine's Day.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people start to do things I don't want to

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>say on a performative level, but sometimes they do things

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>because I feel.

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Like they have to. But I don't think you ever

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like you have to do anything.

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 3>And it's very subjective, like it's very specific to your

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 3>individual relationship and see situation.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Let us know how it goes. Also, I hope you're okay.

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:04.719
<v Speaker 2>A Sunday could be a tough day for a lot

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>of people. Yeah, it is. It's a tough time a year.

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Question number two. I've been in a committed relationship with

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 3>my partner for just over a year now. To summarize,

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 3>he's perfect. I have no doubts about the fact he'll

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 3>be the man I marry and share the rest of

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 3>my life with. We both feel this way. My question

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 3>is knowing about his past relationships. At the start in

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.959
<v Speaker 3>our dating phase, I never really asked him questions about

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 3>his exes, how long they were together, their seriousness, if

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>they met the parents, blah blah blah. Now we're deep

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 3>into our relationship and I feel nothing but secure with him,

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 3>so it feels odd to bring it up. But I'm

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 3>finding myself being curious about his past relationships and I

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 3>just want to know. Maybe it comes from a deep

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 3>insecurity down in me because I really don't like the

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 3>thought of him being with other girls in the past.

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Is it normal to want to know? Or does wanting

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 3>to know only stem from insecurity? Do I need to know?

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Should I ask?

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>And if so? How?

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>This is interesting for me because I want to know

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>about all my partner's exes. I love that, and that

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't stem in ansity or question. That doesn't stem from insecurity.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just playing curiosity. I want to know who the

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>person was that my love loved before me, like the

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>person that I'm weird that I'm in love with.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Who was the person you loved before me? What were

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 2>they like? It's a part of their journey, and it's

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.479
<v Speaker 2>whether you want to think of it or not. It

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 2>helps shape who someone is, what they go through.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>That kind of thing. I find it really interesting. But

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm very good at putting these pieces of information into

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>segments and categories and putting them away when I need to.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think about them. So I find out that

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>information because I'm curious. I don't do anything with it.

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't stalk them, I don't look it up. I

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>actually never think about it again. But it's a curiosity

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 1>in the early days of when I've met someone and

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I will now I'll ask Ben still if a question

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>pops up about an X or I'll ask and he'll answer,

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and then we move on. It's just a plain curiosity

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever had an awkward situation where like, something

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 3>about an X has come up with any boyfriends, not

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.800
<v Speaker 3>just Ben, and it's caused an argument or something, though

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 3>not really because it's always it doesn't stem from jealousy,

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 3>and I think that's really obvious. It stems from curiosity.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I think that that could be the main reason that

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 3>you may not struggle in that sense, because you are

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 3>a weirdly not jealous person.

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so not jealous. It's quite strange. I, on the

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:20.919
<v Speaker 2>other hand, you how.

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>We spoke at the start, like get shit on so

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 1>many times you don't care anymore. I, on the other hand,

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>could not be more opposite about wanting to ask questions

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>about x's And the reason is because I've done it

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 1>in the past, and it sends me a bit fucking crazy.

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because not for everyone I am, unfortunately, and I

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 3>wish I had better self control. I could work for

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 3>the FBI. Would you get social Security? I can find

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 3>out a lot about a person through I don't want

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 3>to be like this anymore. And that's specifically why I

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't do this now, because I've done it in the past.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Not only has it caused a lot of arguments and

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>brought up some like fleshy wounds that they don't necessarily

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about, and they can be confused as

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 3>to why you're asking the questions as well, because I

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 3>think in my situations, they thought I was trying to

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>get information to use against them, and I went a

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 3>little bit cray cray thinking about them experiencing things with

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 3>other people, and you know, whether they loved them more

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 3>than they loved me, or why did they take them

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 3>on a ski holiday and I've never been taken on

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 3>a ski holiday. Why did he cook her lobster that

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 3>he caught in the ocean, you know, like in.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen eighty seven, stuph and shit like that. So I

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 3>My advice is very different. I think to save yourself.

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Don't ask.

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it depends on who you are as a person.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a really good point because and I guess the

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>why as well, like what are you going to do

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>with that information? So for me, I don't ever find

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>out names.

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't care.

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Less about the names because I don't want to know

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>who it is to look at what they look like.

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I always I'm like, how did you guys meet? How

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 2>long were you together? What was your relationship? Like why'd

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>you break up?

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious about that, especially why did the relationship

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not work to meet? I find that really because I

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>think it tells a lot about a person where they're at,

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>what they're looking for, are they ready to move on

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those questions, But usually for me that

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>comes earlier on. So you said you've been with your

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>partner quite a while, but now you're curious. I still

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's okay to ask the questions if you want,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>but be really honest about it.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Just literally say what you said to us.

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.879
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I do not know why this has popped into

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 3>my head, but I was just sort of thinking about

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 3>your life before me, like what was I like, I

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>think it can provide you with context around certain things,

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 3>like let's say that they were cheated on in a

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 3>past relationship. It might explain why they have, you know,

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 3>an insecurity about whether they were.

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Going to be cheated on in the future.

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, there are certain things that I'm like, oh,

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 3>could give you a bit of clarity on some of

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 3>their behavior. I think you need to have a real

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 3>look in the mirror and say, what type of person

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 3>am I?

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Am I the type of person who's gonna go a.

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Bit weird from this information, or am I going to

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 3>be able to like just curiously find out a bit

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 3>more about what makes my partner my partner?

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>You know what's wild? Just realized this.

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Now Ben doesn't want to know about my past, Like

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't need to have the vodka, is it? No,

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>He's a bit like, oh, it's in the past, you know,

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't bother me. And I get upset the

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>fact that he doesn't. I'm like, how do you not

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>want to know? I was like, don't you want to know?

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Like why I am the way I am or all

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 3>the things I've been through or you know, And He's like, well,

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 3>I just care about now in our future, which I

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 3>get and I respect.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Why did you think you want to tell him? Though?

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>So he understands why I'm a fucking head case sometimes.

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Like, Babe, if you knew what happened to me, maybe

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 2>this would be okay. Why I'm actually like this, Maybe

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 2>you would know why I don't want you to have

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a double life. And I'm just double checking that you

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>don't have a family in Scotland. But I don't know

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>when you need to dump your other fiance now, because

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I've already done that. You know those vibes, no, But

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know. I guess it's it's.

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Such a huge part of what shaped me and what

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I've been through and the reason I've done a lot

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>of things is off the back of different traumas that

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>have happened to me in the past. And you know,

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>some have spoken about in the podcast and some have

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>kept a secret that are just my own. And I

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>think there's a level of me being a woman being like,

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>why don't you want to know why I am like

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I am? And he's like, I don't want to ever

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>upset you, but it doesn't matter to me because I

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:10.959
<v Speaker 1>just want to know who you are with your life

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>with me. But it's funny because that's the reverse situation.

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>But I genuinely don't think there's anything wrong with asking

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.240
<v Speaker 1>a partner about their past.

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 2>That is just me.

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>The only reason I would say don't do it is

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 1>if what Keisha said and you're going to spiral into

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 1>like a psycho stalker obsession, like ask them for your

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>own knowledge, not to go and look up this person,

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>not to do a deep dive, just so you know

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is you want to know.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 3>All right, Last question, I've been talking to a guy

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 3>for months now and we just recently went on two dates.

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 3>He seems genuine and in my eyes, we seemed to

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 3>really get along, although then one day he just stopped replying.

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Is it reasonable to ask him why he stopped replying

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 3>or just forget about it and move on.

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like we've all done the like seven

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>texts in a row, haven't we. You know, where no

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>one applies?

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 3>He keep sending, Yeah, maybe your phone's not working. I

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you've gone out of service.

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>You dropped your phone in the when you're rescuing that kitten.

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like you know what's fuch when you do it

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 3>on multiple platforms, When you message Instagram, text WhatsApp, Facebook.

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is my advice, and I'm coming in pretty confidently,

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>pretty hot.

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 2>You've been on two dates, he's ghosted you. I'd leave it.

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 2>I would leave it. They are not worth it. Sometimes

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 2>silence and no message is a message. Yeah, you can't

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>misinterpret silence. You can't.

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>And someone not messaging you is sending you a message

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>of I don't want to talk to you. And I

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>know that sounds horrible, and maybe maybe something happened. I mean,

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>like that's probably a one percenter that something's happened, and

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 1>they'll circle back. But I think at the end of

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the day is like, let's not overthink it. People have

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>every which way to contact us now if they want to,

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.439
<v Speaker 1>and if their phone did drop into the ocean, they

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 1>have Instagram or WhatsApp or messaging on the desktop, like

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>everything's linked. There is always a way to contact someone, now,

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>unless you've gone camping in the Amazon, which you'd probably

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>tell someone if you did that.

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>You know what, though, You're like.

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes and the reason that ghosting I think is such

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>a fucking problem is because what it naturally does is

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.439
<v Speaker 3>that it makes you create a scenario in your head

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 3>as to why that person has stopped wanting to be

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 3>in contact with you, because in your brain everything was

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 3>great until it wasn't. And so what we naturally do

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 3>is we kind of feed our own insecurity into being like, oh, well,

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 3>they must have stopped doing this because of what I said,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 3>or because of how I acted, or maybe they didn't

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 3>like this certain thing about me, or you know, et cetera.

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I.

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 3>Think ghosting is really unfair, because when you don't have

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 3>the context, you feel the gaps yourself and you'll often

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 3>fill them with things that you don't like about yourself.

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's why it can make you feel like your

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 3>ego is so bruised.

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, it is bruised because it's someone saying I don't

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 1>want you in my life anymore.

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 2>So it's yeah, it's pretty shitty.

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 3>That being said, I actually text someone who had ghosted.

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 3>This is in the last probably five months. We'd been

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 3>hanging out, we'd been talking, everything was going great, guns right,

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 3>and I can't I think he tried to soft fade me.

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 2>But I was an eager little thing, and.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I I didn't read the room until it got to

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 3>the point where I sent a message being like, am

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I not reading the room here, or like you.

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 2>If you had to ask, if you read the room,

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 2>you're probably not.

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 3>You just not want to hang out with me. And

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I got very dismissive things. Right fast forward a couple months.

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 3>We hadn't spoken for a while, and I think this

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 3>is the main part, is that you have to get

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 3>to a point where you don't care if they don't reply,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 3>which I did get to. And this person was quite

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 3>substantially older than me, and I was like, this is

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 3>really fucked that, Like you're at this age and you

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 3>still think that that stuff is okay. And I sent

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 3>him a message and it wasn't like an aggressive one.

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 3>I just said, hey, I was actually listening to a

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 3>podcast that was talking about it, and that's what I

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 3>put in the message. I was like, I am listening

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 3>to a podcast that has encouraged me to send you

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 3>a message and tell you that it really upset me

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 3>that you ghosted me. I hope by me sending you

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 3>this message it makes you not do it to the

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 3>next person. And I was in a place where I

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 3>was like, I don't give a shit if he doesn't reply.

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't actually know why I sent it.

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I was probably just having a bit of a down day,

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 3>and I wanted a little bit of like a At

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 3>least I got the last word, you know. Anyway, I

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 3>got like the six paragraph reply with an apology. And

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 3>so in that sense, you're asking, like, should I message them?

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 3>You can, but you also need to be aware of

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the fact that they might not reply and you will

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 3>look more crazy.

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 2>And I guess, ask.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Yourself, why why do you care so much what this

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 3>person that you don't know very well thinks of you,

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 3>and why they didn't want to pursue you.

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.879
<v Speaker 2>Like, your confidence and validation and.

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Who you are shouldn't stem from what a stranger who

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 3>can't be bothered to give you the time of day.

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Thinks of you. That's what I think, And it did

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 2>take me a long time to get to that point.

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 2>I've been the seven text. I've been the I thought

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 2>we had a great time, where we go wrong? You

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>said you call me. I've been that person.

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think you get to a point where you're like, well,

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>it's your loss. I don't know if as a listener

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>out there right now that hasn't been like ghosted or ignored.

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>At some point, I think we all are going to

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>go through that because it's far more prevalent than we think.

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 1>But if you can be confident in who you are

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and what you've got to offer, that's enough. It's their

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>loss that they don't see that. But you don't have to.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not your job to convince someone of your worth

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and how great your relationship will be. It is not

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>your job to say this is what I can offer you,

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>because the right person won't need convincing.

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's all nice, and I agree wholeheartedly with

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 3>all of it, but I do think that's a lot

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 3>easier said than done.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't like you, don't y'all. No two dates in

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.720
<v Speaker 2>and some dickhead doesn't want to talk to you anymore.

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>But they were better.

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 3>They were talking for months, and you don't know whether

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 3>that was like phone calls every night.

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't know how.

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Progressed the person who wrote this in felt like their

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 3>relationship was. It cuts you deep and you feel shit

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 3>about yourself.

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yeah, I mean, I'm going on my rant

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 1>because I hate people that do the wrong thing by people,

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>upset people's feelings. I do, and of course like I

0:43:57.960 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>have message people and ask for a reason to any

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 1>If you really feel like you can't move on because

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of it, then one hundred percent you can. You're entitled

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to ask them, but as Kisha just said, just be prepared.

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>That they might not write back again. Are you gonna

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 2>feel worse? You've got to not care.

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:14.399
<v Speaker 3>You've got to be in a position where you don't

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 3>care whether they reply or not, and you don't care

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 3>if you think that their perspective of you will change. Basically,

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 3>for me, I got to the point where I was like,

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't care what you think of it. Like I

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 3>was in a good place by that point, and I

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 3>was like, I don't care what you think of me,

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 3>but you're too old to be doing this, Like you

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 3>need to actually know that you need to be accountable

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 3>for this stuff. And I'm sorry that he goes to you,

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 3>because you know.

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 2>What the other thing is.

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking about now, like when you said, Keisha,

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>you just got a full page letter back of like

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>an apology. If you get a response, it's gonna be nice.

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not gonna be nasty. Everyone's gonna say, oh,

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry I got back in my ex. So

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry.

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not in the right place. It's always gonna

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 2>be something nice.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>It's now, no one's ever gonna say I didn't like you,

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't like your personality, I wasn't attracted to you,

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like ours. No one's going to be nasty.

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>So then I guess what else are you going to

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 1>get from that? Because chances are their reasoning is just

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.280
<v Speaker 1>being diplomatic and polite.

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>But it could be true. And that's what I mean.

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 3>At least then you are feeling the blank puzzle piece

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 3>of When we get ghosted, we typically think of the

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 3>worst of ourselves as the reason why they've done it.

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 3>At least then you have another reason. You can get

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of closure out of these kind of things,

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 3>And I definitely felt like, oh I got a bit

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 3>of closure. I just think that you you need to

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 3>go into these situations in a position where you don't

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 3>care about whether that closure is going to come or not.

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just don't take ghosting to heart because it

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>can be really hurtful, But I think it's a really

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 1>powerful thing to say cool, that's on you.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 2>You're not ready for whatever reason. I'll keep on my

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 2>own journey. Well, I think that we've talked shit for

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:44.800
<v Speaker 2>a bit too. You need to cut.

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 3>If you have a question that you would like for

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 3>Laura and Britt to answer. This is just a temporary thing.

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I won't be here for every day that Laura is

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 3>doing Ninja Warrior. She also looks in the background anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>She's always around. But if you do have a question,

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<v Speaker 3>send it on into Instagram. Life Uncut Podcast. I will

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<v Speaker 3>pop the links to the Facebook group in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are on TikTok even though Britt, who doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what chat gpt is, we're trying to keep up.

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<v Speaker 2>With the top. You don't need to know what chat

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<v Speaker 2>gpt is to top the tick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sure, I will also put a link about TikTok

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<v Speaker 3>in the show notes and you know the drill.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks producing Keicha for coming on today. You're an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>dream boat. We love when you pop in and do

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<v Speaker 1>your little surprise. It's not a surprised to me, but

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<v Speaker 1>to the listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Your surprise hosting. Stop flirting with me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's my flaky skewes, isn't it giving you the

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<v Speaker 1>eyes with my skin flakes off across the room. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget to you, Mum tea dad too, dog tea friends

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<v Speaker 1>and share the love be.

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<v Speaker 2>Gairls We Love Love

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<v Speaker 3>Eight