1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Friday, 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: the nineteenth of March. My name is Zara Seidler, and 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: helping me make sense of today's news is Sam Koslowski. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Making news today, Australian aid lands in PNG. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Tanzania's president passes away. 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Some good news about nursing homes in the US. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: And a breakdown of the proposed consent app Here is 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: today's Daily Digest. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: So continuing a story we've heard quite a bit about 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: this week, Queensland has now recorded eight new COVID nineteen 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: cases in hotel quarantine, six of which were returning travelers 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: from Papua New Guinea. Flights between Port Moresby and Cairns 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: have been banned and there are now forty eight cases 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: in Queensland. Aid from Australia to support the fight against 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen Papua New Guinea has already begun arriving in 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: the nation's capital, delivered by eighty f personnel. 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 2: Tanzania's President, John Magafuley has died at age sixty one, 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: after being absent from the public since February twenty seven. 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: The Vice President announced the news, citing that the president 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: had died of heart failure during his absence. Rumors had 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: been circulating suggesting Mgafully had contracted coronavirus. The President had 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: been a prominent COVID nineteen denial. 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: And finally the good news. New data from John Hopkins 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: University has found COVID nineteen cases in US nursing homes 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: have fallen by over eighty percent since December last year. 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: A spokesperson for the American Health Care Association said the 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: vaccine appears to be having a dramatic effect on reducing cases, 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: which is extremely encouraging. 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: There's being self deprecating and then there's being Mick Fuller, 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: the New South Wales the Police Commissioner, suggested an app 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: yesterday to record sexual consent between two partners. He said, 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, the app could be the 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: worst idea I have in twenty twenty one, but the 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: reality is that in five years perhaps it won't be 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: Zara tell me about the worst app idea in twenty 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: twenty one. 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: This was a funny one yesterday because the New South 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Wales Police Commissioner, Mick Fuller's suggested that there should be 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: an app or technology used to record sexual consent between 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: two partners. He suggested that this would be led by 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: a private company, not the government, and that it would 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: entail people logging onto this app, logging their age, and 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: then swiping left or right depending on whether they had 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: provided explicit consent or op before engaging in sexual activity. 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: So the proposal of the app obviously caught a bit 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: of heat yesterday. What were the key concerns and criticisms 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: with the app? 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: The key concern was that consent is not black and white, 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: and that you can withdraw consent at any time during 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: a sexual experience. So a yes to one thing is 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: not a yes to all things, and that was the 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: overriding theme that was coming through. I was speaking to 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Chanelle Cantos about this app yesterday and she made a 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: really great point about the fact that the same forces 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: that create sexual coercion will just coerce people into accepting 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the app, and that it is bound to just protect 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: perpetrators over victims. Here's what Chanelle had to say when 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: we spoke to her earlier. 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: It's just a band aid solution that revolves the issue 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: around yes and no being said, where it's so much 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: broader than that. You know, we need to teach young 62 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: people how to have healthy intimate relationships. When to teach 63 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: society how to have healthy intimate relationships. Consent changes every 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: single second, every single position, every single new act, and 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: people need to learn to be empathetic and pick up 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: on body language and put their own desires aside for 67 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: the person in front of them's comfort at that time. 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: Something I've been thinking a lot about in the last 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: couple of weeks has been who are the voices in 70 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 2: the room leading this discussion? And while it's clear that 71 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: there are a number of technological and philosophical issues with 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: the app, I think a lot of the anger yesterday 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: was also about who was saying it. 74 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily really think it was about who was 75 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: saying it versus who is actually thinking about this and 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: how much time they are spending thinking about these ideas. 77 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: If the police commissioner thought that this idea was a 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: bad one, I'm not sure it needed to be said 79 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: in a public space or in a public forum, especially 80 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: when women are feeling so on edge and so defeated 81 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: by the new cycle. We need to consult with the 82 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: women who are experiencing these sexual assaults so that the 83 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: nuance of consent and violence can actually be captured in 84 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: whatever response we do implement, and I commend the Police 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: Commissioner for starting to think about how technology can aid 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: that movement. But it does appear, and the Commissioner seems 87 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: to have acknowledged this himself. This is not the way 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: that we need to protect women, both at the time 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: of an incident and afterwards. There need to be responses 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: for women that acknowledge the role of consent. Education as 91 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: a preventative means reshaping the way we view our relationships, 92 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: but we also need structures in place after an incident 93 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: does occur so that more women are believed and that 94 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: more cases can be heard in court. 95 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: That's all we have time for today, But in the meantime, 96 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: follow the today's news on Instagram at the Daily Os. 97 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: It's where over ninety five thousand Australians get their news 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: throughout the day and we would love you to become 99 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: part of the community. Have a fantastic weekend.