WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Why Did We All Google This?

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<v Speaker 1>Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose

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<v Speaker 1>lands were never seated. We pay our respects to their

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<v Speaker 1>elders past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on de rug Wallamuta Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 1>on Cut.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Brittany and I'm Laura. Today's Sandstead. What's funny, Laura?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've tried to start this three times and Laura's

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<v Speaker 1>having a little laughing fit every single time, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't be sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you know why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we're ten days away from Christmas, but it still

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<v Speaker 2>feels like February.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally had this thing this morning where I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to listen back to Okay, I'm not I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't say this.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted to listen back to my own podcast. I wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>I really felt like because the content is fire, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>I just really felt like a laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'm going to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Joann McNally's episode, and I was like when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it was a couple of months ago

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<v Speaker 1>and I was trying to scroll through, I should have

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<v Speaker 1>just searched it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't think it was that far back.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'll go back a month or two

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to August, and I was like, August kept going.

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<v Speaker 1>Joanne McNally was in April. It feels like yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was the start of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, And I've said this to you before.

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<v Speaker 2>As we get older, time goes quicker, no concept of

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<v Speaker 2>time none.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know when you have kids?

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<v Speaker 2>Though, I think that kids are a very good daily

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<v Speaker 2>reminder of how quickly time is going, because.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, at Uni, he's got a dummy day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because every day you wake up tired and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, is this going to be my life

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<v Speaker 2>of the next forever, for the rest of the next nineteens.

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<v Speaker 4>You're about saying that it's like the years are short,

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<v Speaker 4>but the days along.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a parenting thing? I feel like I've heard that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all around like the phases of parenthood, because like

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<v Speaker 2>what you can get into like a phase like right now,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said on Tuesday's episode, we're in the dummy phase.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in the waning phase. It's not a great phase,

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<v Speaker 2>and you think it's never going to end, and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden you're in another phase. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just goes in these circles. I must listen to

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<v Speaker 2>this and think I hate parenting. No, I think you

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<v Speaker 2>just say things that people don't say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're not negative about parenting, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>just say the good stuff, which I think is important

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<v Speaker 1>because people know there's good stuff, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't say the stuff that bothers people.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, I cannot even tell you how much I

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<v Speaker 2>love being a mum. I love being a mum. I

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<v Speaker 2>love my kids so much. But it's a thing that

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<v Speaker 2>goes without saying. It's like, I feel like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to say that to you all on constant repeat that.

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<v Speaker 3>I love being a mum. I love my children like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>I lay in bed and I like stroke their faces

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<v Speaker 2>and I try and like kiss their little fat cheeks

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<v Speaker 2>and put their fat cheeks inside my mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You get you become so weird as a mum, but

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<v Speaker 2>also simultaneously there's moments where you hate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just completely remembered this. I forgot to tell you

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<v Speaker 4>the other day. I was lucky enough to come along

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<v Speaker 4>to pick up Marley and Lola from daycare, and a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks before you'd spoken about how you can

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<v Speaker 4>have that real intimacy with a kid that's not romantic,

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<v Speaker 4>Marley reached out, grabbed the side of my face and.

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<v Speaker 3>Brushed my hair. And I have never felt oxidosin flow

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<v Speaker 3>my brain more quickly than that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I feel like that when the messuse

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<v Speaker 1>touches me. That's why I get massages.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't there an article about that? Yeah, there was long

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<v Speaker 3>distance relationship. So you go and get massages quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 3>just to be touched.

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<v Speaker 2>You wrap them up in a little ball and you

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<v Speaker 2>just like want to breathe in every part of their

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<v Speaker 2>body and like suck their toes and stuff if you could.

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<v Speaker 2>But then at the same time they do things that

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<v Speaker 2>drive you absolutely fricking mental.

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<v Speaker 1>I do that with Delilah. You suck a toes smells

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<v Speaker 1>like popcorn.

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<v Speaker 3>I suck it. Oh her feet smelling popcorn.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm okay, now, I'm not a mum, But I

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<v Speaker 1>do have a question because I saw this article going viral,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have feelings there was just this woman online

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<v Speaker 1>from the UK I think irrelevant. But she she has

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<v Speaker 1>two little kids, ones three I think, and one is

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<v Speaker 1>like under one I think eight or nine months, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, Hey, I'm not getting my little kid a

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<v Speaker 1>present this year for Christmas from anyone because it's hard times,

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<v Speaker 1>hard financial times, and also the kid's not gonna remember,

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna know.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of people kicked off.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, fair, if times are tight with money,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to buy an under one

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<v Speaker 1>year old a present, because you could give them a

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<v Speaker 1>cardboard box.

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<v Speaker 3>Then gonna be stoked.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not believe people kicking off about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she wasn't going to buy her kid a present.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to experience it. But you, as the

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<v Speaker 1>only mum in this room, Laura, what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is a perfect example that people

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<v Speaker 2>kick off about things that they shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Care about, like this is what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I did the same thing with Marley and Lola

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<v Speaker 2>for birthday parties. So we did like a big birthday

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<v Speaker 2>party for Marley when she was one year old, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when Lola turned one, we were like.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have cupcakes and have Ann and Kate over.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't do anything, and didn't you forget one not forget,

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<v Speaker 1>but you did it like two days late or something. Once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't do it on her birthday. We did

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<v Speaker 2>it when it was convenient for everyone, and it wasn't. No,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't know, and that's what we realized. It's actually twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>She does not know she's really twelve. We did Marley's

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<v Speaker 2>one year old birthday party, but realistically it was for us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, it wasn't for her. She did No,

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't care. She has no concept of it, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>remember it. But then at the same time, it actually

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't that enjoyabooks. I spent the whole time running around,

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<v Speaker 2>like making sure everyone had food. I did the cleanup,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was the one who had to do everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, who was that for? What did

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<v Speaker 2>I do that for? And yeah, we have photos from

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<v Speaker 2>one year old birthday party, be like who cares? So

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<v Speaker 2>then when it was Lola's we kind of just did

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<v Speaker 2>things very small, had cupcakes, and I mean we still

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<v Speaker 2>got her at present. The only thing I do question

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<v Speaker 2>about that, and I say, this is a second child

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<v Speaker 2>slash middle child. Do you then grow up with immense

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<v Speaker 2>middle child second child syndrome, because it does create a

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<v Speaker 2>flow and effect. And when you are the hand me

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<v Speaker 2>down child, which is what I was, you always feel

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit less loved.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the third child, I'm third out of four,

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<v Speaker 1>and I definitely never felt that. But we were handing

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<v Speaker 1>me down children as well. But my problem was my

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<v Speaker 1>older brothers and boys. Well my older siblings are boys,

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<v Speaker 1>so like that's why why I was a tomboy, because

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<v Speaker 1>everything got handed down was the boys stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 1>personally don't feel that. But my sister Sherry, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth kid. Every year, you know, you get around

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<v Speaker 1>the Christmas time around the family gets together and you

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<v Speaker 1>always go through like old photos. You always talk about

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<v Speaker 1>old memories, like it's always that walk down memory lane.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were looking at all these old photos of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the kids in these albums and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so like nostalgic and so nice, and all the kids

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<v Speaker 1>would getting their photos out, and Mitch the eldest, was

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<v Speaker 1>going through his and there were like five albums of

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<v Speaker 1>photos of just him. Then it was Dane's the next kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there were a little bit less of him.

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<v Speaker 3>Me was a bit harder.

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<v Speaker 1>I maybe had one album and then poor Sherry by

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<v Speaker 1>the time the fourth kid came, because mom had like

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<v Speaker 1>four kids under six, Sheridan was like, where are my albums?

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<v Speaker 1>We could find one photo? No, not an album one.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, am I as a kid?

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<v Speaker 2>One?

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<v Speaker 3>Because mom shows adopted at five? Mom's like, I'm too busy.

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<v Speaker 3>I had By that point, you had three other kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done it all one hundred times, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think in that capacity, the fourth or the third or

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth kid definitely gets left behind a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, though in your case, brit I would

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<v Speaker 2>say it's a slightly different experience because you had two

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<v Speaker 2>older brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>You were the first girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's still an exciting difference for a lot of parents,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you've had two children, you're having a third

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<v Speaker 2>and it ends up being a different gender. No, gender

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't matter, but for a lot of people it does.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why people have bloody gender reveals and stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>so fresh Start. Yeah, So I would say that you

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<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't feel the same as someone who is a

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<v Speaker 2>second or third child to two older sisters or one

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<v Speaker 2>older sister, and that being like the hand me down

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<v Speaker 2>kind of process.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, that's enough.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's good for them. I think it builds resils.

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<v Speaker 5>It's resilience building. Okay, So we was speaking of resilience building.

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<v Speaker 5>Last night we went out to the RSL Club, and

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<v Speaker 5>part of the RSL Club, they do a raffle on

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<v Speaker 5>Tuesday night, and because it's pre Christmas, it's a really

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<v Speaker 5>substantial raffle. So the raffle was the very first person

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<v Speaker 5>to get a ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>Drawn won this like toy package which was like the

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<v Speaker 2>value of one thousand dollars worth of toys, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there was a few hams and a pork that

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<v Speaker 2>were going right, So like if you didn't get the toys,

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<v Speaker 2>you could win one of three hams, or you could

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<v Speaker 2>win a.

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<v Speaker 3>Pork still a great price. It lives hands mate, I

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<v Speaker 3>was all. I was like, I would love to win

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<v Speaker 3>a ham or a pork.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Christmas Day done anyway, So we all buy raffle tickets.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of tables around us.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a lot of people in the RSL Club,

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<v Speaker 2>so like, your chances are high of winning something we

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<v Speaker 2>put on.

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<v Speaker 1>I just imagine you there were your tickets, Like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like eleven guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not someone who candone gambling, but when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to raffles, I am like Queen Raffle. I am the

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<v Speaker 2>woman who when I'm in my eighties, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>buy that little booklet where you could win a house.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll be me. I do I do that. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always into those, A sucker. I always wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>they actually even are really given away.

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<v Speaker 3>A raffle. I'm there, fifty bucks, put me down. Love it? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we're there with all our little ripedapt tickets

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there, and the first ticket gets called and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the thousand dollars worth of toys.

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<v Speaker 3>We did not win that.

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<v Speaker 2>Marley may the absolute fucking tantrum that she threw. She

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<v Speaker 2>was hysterical. She hasn't quite understood or grasped the concept

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<v Speaker 2>of raffles. Every other child was like a little bit disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>Marley was like inconsolably crying and sobbing for about fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where the family that won the toys

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, well, just you can have one. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't need all these toys. Have one that's age appropriate

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<v Speaker 2>for her. And I was like Nope, you will not

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<v Speaker 2>give her a toy because this is a moment in

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<v Speaker 2>life that she needs. She needs to know that she's

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<v Speaker 2>not always a winner. I'm glad you did that. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this is resilience building, this is a lesson

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<v Speaker 2>that fell into our lap. But she screamed for literally

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes on and off. It was a fifteen minutes solid.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the reason why she cried for another five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes was because Mamma won a ham and I was so.

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<v Speaker 3>Excited, and she walked up with her ticket and she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh dude, what a ham? Were you like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>mom wants a ham? Oh my god, congratulations, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>Ronn one of my Christmas ham.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't won anything since I won the year five

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<v Speaker 1>Easter Hat parade.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a time. Mom has so much main character energy.

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<v Speaker 4>Correlation doesn't imply causation, But here I'm saying she had

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<v Speaker 4>a one year old birthday party.

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<v Speaker 3>And now she's a brat when she doesn't win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, it was a moment in my life where

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I have a very spoilt child

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<v Speaker 2>and she has been and I don't mean spoilers in

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't go out of our way to spoil her.

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<v Speaker 2>But she has had zero nothing has happened in her

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<v Speaker 2>life at all at the beautiful age of four and

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<v Speaker 2>a half years old.

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<v Speaker 3>That has been a resilience building that she has. She

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<v Speaker 3>has lived a good life.

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<v Speaker 1>You do, and I'm not saying this in a bad way,

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<v Speaker 1>but you do buy her a lot of random presence.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's a rule with her and your family

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<v Speaker 1>that like, if you go to the airport, you'll always

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<v Speaker 1>buy them present. And Matt and I were at the

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<v Speaker 1>airport not long ago.

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<v Speaker 3>When you say rule I do that, Matt is very no.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and I were watching it go down from a distance,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're like, I'm just gonna go get a packet

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<v Speaker 1>of chips and a coke from the shop in the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were just sitting there waiting and then Marley

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<v Speaker 1>runs over. He goes, watch this, within two seconds, she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to pick a toy. He's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a nightmare, and I was like, surely not. She already

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<v Speaker 1>bought her a toy like twenty minutes ago. She's like

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<v Speaker 1>watch she runs over and you're like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Hunt picked what you would And I was like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the problem. It was, it's just creating a monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, I find it hard to say no to her.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I have realized that I use it and

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<v Speaker 2>this is bad and I'm being heaps better.

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<v Speaker 3>I use getting a present.

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<v Speaker 2>So, for example, when we were doing the live shows

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<v Speaker 2>and I was traveling heaps, if I go to an airport,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm away, if Mummy goes on like on a

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<v Speaker 2>plane trip without her, but she gets a little thing

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<v Speaker 2>from the airport, and that's kind of become.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like a thing that we started doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was infrequent because I rarely ever went to

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<v Speaker 2>an airport without the kids. But then during live shows

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<v Speaker 2>of November, I was going every couple of day and

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<v Speaker 2>that's been an increasing thing this year. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bad precedent to set. But at the same time, it's

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<v Speaker 2>compensating for the fact that I wasn't home. So it

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<v Speaker 2>feeds into this guilt that I have around not being

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<v Speaker 2>present and so yeah, literally buying their love. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for bringing that up for me. It's pard, Laura, I

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<v Speaker 2>understand where that comes from. But I've got an idea

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<v Speaker 2>start bringing home Christmas hams.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay bean. That is the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of my favorite times of year, right

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<v Speaker 1>the Google searchers.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it such a funny. I mean, because everyone

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<v Speaker 2>does it right. It's like the Dictionary does, like the

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<v Speaker 2>word of the year, which no one even knew what

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<v Speaker 2>that word was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like rizz or something.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they come up with that? Does every like

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<v Speaker 1>I just picture a room of like dumbledores in a library,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone brings a word and then they just say

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<v Speaker 1>which one they thinks the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, honestly, maybe it's like a most Google or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever's asked that question. If you have the answer to it,

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<v Speaker 2>slide into the DMS, we would love to know. But

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<v Speaker 2>also like Spotify rap lists, it's every single thing puts

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<v Speaker 2>out there like this is how engaged you are with

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<v Speaker 2>our content.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean an assumption that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the top things to be googled would have been

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<v Speaker 1>something like Donald Trump or Kim Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 2>My opinion, Kim Kardashian has lost the shine recently. I

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<v Speaker 2>think if I was going to pick someone for this year,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have thought Taylor Swift would have been especially

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<v Speaker 2>within Australia with the aristol. I would have thought that

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<v Speaker 2>she would have been one of the highest Google searchers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this list is very surprising. I reckon we

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<v Speaker 2>can rattle through what they are in terms of like news.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the news things will be surprising because

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<v Speaker 2>every single one of these things has had quite a

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<v Speaker 2>big impact socially. Some of them I think are very problematic,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll get into it. The number one most googled

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<v Speaker 2>news search this year of twenty twenty three, drumroll please,

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<v Speaker 2>is something that I think will surprise no one.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the optus outage. See.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so surprised by this because the irony is that

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<v Speaker 4>the people who had the optus outage weren't able to

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<v Speaker 4>google optus outage.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason why I'm not surprised is because I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I was affected by the optus s outage. I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up that morning and it was like is the

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<v Speaker 2>world ending? What is happening? And as soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>did get internet again, that was the thing I was googling.

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<v Speaker 2>Or when I and Wi Fi at work, I was

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<v Speaker 2>googling why wasn't my phone working? Like I think everyone

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<v Speaker 2>that was affected, every single optist person ended up googling it.

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<v Speaker 2>But every single or non optist person was googling it

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<v Speaker 2>as well. If you own a small business and you

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<v Speaker 2>run your finances, your fplus machines, your booking system, total

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<v Speaker 2>everything via that it was a hugely, hugely problematic day.

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<v Speaker 2>And also on top of that, the way in which

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<v Speaker 2>that was handled just showed like such a lack of

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<v Speaker 2>understanding as to how everyday people live their lives and

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<v Speaker 2>how fundamental having access to the Internet is.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two I thought would be number one, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the current war in Israel and Gaza high one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why it shocked me because I would have

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<v Speaker 1>actually said that was number one. So surprising that the

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<v Speaker 1>Optus outage beat.

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<v Speaker 2>That I wonder though, is like how do they aggregate

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<v Speaker 2>those searches because people would search for all different things

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<v Speaker 2>that pertain to the war. It's not one singular search,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas optus outage is one singular search. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe this as a combined search because I think

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<v Speaker 2>so many people are trying to educate themselves on what

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<v Speaker 2>has happened. I would say that this is probably a

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<v Speaker 2>tricky one because there'd be such a scope of Google

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<v Speaker 2>searches that have been done about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Number three is the referendum results Number four is very

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<v Speaker 1>problematic to me. We've spoken about him on the podcast before.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Tate, who is the self proclaimed misogynist, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he's the fourth and most googled person in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping more people are googling him in shock, horror

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<v Speaker 1>and to find out what his punishments were and to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about him and his crimes, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>googling him out of interest and wanting to follow along

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<v Speaker 1>with his teachings. And I say teachings because he literally

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<v Speaker 1>runs classes on how to be a misogynist.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, Andrew Tate had his social media taken away,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm not surprised that people had to google him

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<v Speaker 4>to find out, do you know what I mean? If

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<v Speaker 4>it was an Instagram search and he still had active profiles,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that there would have been people checking out

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<v Speaker 4>his stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We did like figuring out who he was.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a curiosity around him because everyone was like,

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<v Speaker 4>this man is such a bad person. That immediately makes

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<v Speaker 4>people go, I don't know who it is. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>find out one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we spoke about him earlier this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>we spoke about how he is more Google searchers around

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<v Speaker 2>him than Kim Kardashian than other very high pro fast celebrities.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would question that not all of those are

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<v Speaker 2>positive Google searchers. I mean, every single person in this

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<v Speaker 2>room has googled who he is. He is prolific, but

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<v Speaker 2>that does not mean that it's from a positive perspective totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that did make me happy was the most googled

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<v Speaker 1>Australians now. The top two most Googled Australians were Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Kerr and Mary Fowler, both of which are Australian football

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<v Speaker 1>slash soccer players. I could not be happier that that

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<v Speaker 1>is who we are googling the most in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so interesting as well because it was the

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<v Speaker 2>big debate around when the Matilda's were playing and how

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<v Speaker 2>much media attention they garnered, and there was all the

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<v Speaker 2>conversations around.

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<v Speaker 3>The pay parody with how men are paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Within Australian football, and the conversation was well, when it

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<v Speaker 2>is garnering enough attention, then the pay parity will be matched.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just more proof in the putting, not

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<v Speaker 2>that we needed more, but that the women within Australian

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<v Speaker 2>soccer need to be paid equal to the men.

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<v Speaker 3>If not more would be debatable. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Sam Kerr, Mary Fowler, Michael Clark, which is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously from the big fight he had with Karl Stefanovic,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone remembers there was like this big public fight in NUSA.

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<v Speaker 1>It was filmed viral well, very funny. I think Barris

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<v Speaker 1>contributed to that Google then it was Reyes Walsh and

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Andrews.

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<v Speaker 2>If you guys want to go and have a look

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<v Speaker 2>at the list yourself, they're all on Daily Oz. There's

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<v Speaker 2>lists upon lists of different things that have been googled

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<v Speaker 2>this year. You can look at what's been the most

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<v Speaker 2>important sport, you can look at what's been the most

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<v Speaker 2>important depths or movies, whatever it is. The only other

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<v Speaker 2>one that I think is quite interesting is the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>The most popular movies this year that have been googled

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<v Speaker 2>are Oppenheimer and Barbie, which should not be a surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>But in terms of box office hits, Barbie eclipsed Oppenheimer,

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<v Speaker 2>But in terms of Google searchers, Oppenheimer was the most popular.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's because so many people were interested

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<v Speaker 2>in understanding the history and understanding the story behind why

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<v Speaker 2>that was such a pivotal part of World War Two.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Time for vibe or unsubscribed, And I know, Laurie, you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't unsubscribed this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Controversially, I have an unsubscribed today. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how people are going to feel about this, because it

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<v Speaker 2>is a movie that is getting so much airtime, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think so many people are really excited about watching

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<v Speaker 2>it is Leave the World Behind with Julia Roberts. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you about it, Britta, and I told you how much

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<v Speaker 2>I hated it, and then you watched it the next night.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have conflicting views on it as well. The

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I don't like it is because as much

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<v Speaker 2>as the show itself was very gripping, it's a real thriller,

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<v Speaker 2>like it'll have you on the edge of your seat

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<v Speaker 2>until the end. The end was so bitterly disappointing that

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<v Speaker 2>it almost undid all of the on the edge of

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<v Speaker 2>the SEATNSS. I kind of got to the end of

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<v Speaker 2>it and I was like, is that it? And I

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<v Speaker 2>know for some people you're going to enjoy like how

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<v Speaker 2>conceptual it is in terms of the cinematography and in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the story, like the storyline itself, the concept

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<v Speaker 2>I quite enjoy as a thing to unpack mentally, But

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<v Speaker 2>was I entertained and did I enjoy the movie itself?

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<v Speaker 3>Not really.

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<v Speaker 4>Movies like that make me feel like when you've been

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<v Speaker 4>on a great date with someone and you think everything's

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<v Speaker 4>so good and then they like ghost you and you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>it was so good for the ninety eight percent, and

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<v Speaker 4>now I'm just left so.

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<v Speaker 3>Disappointed, Like does that then make it a good date

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<v Speaker 3>or a bad date?

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<v Speaker 1>It makes a bad date, No, it does, I disagree,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was still a great date.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a shit ending.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm struggling to decide if I like it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason is the ending was terrible. It hated

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<v Speaker 1>the ending, but the entire movie until that point, so

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent I was hooked, and I did enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the movie because I was waiting, So I can't decide

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<v Speaker 1>if I liked it or not. Because the acting was great,

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<v Speaker 1>the story was great, it kept my attention. My anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>was Throughdove the whole time, which is thanks to the

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<v Speaker 1>background music. But then the end let me down, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, does that necessarily make it a bad movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I still enjoyed ninety nine point nine percent of it,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm on the fence.

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<v Speaker 3>The other part of it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That I was a little bit like, Eh, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really sure was exactly what you said, Britt. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>the movie was very suspenseful, and that's where all the

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<v Speaker 2>thriller aspect came from. But also I thought that the

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<v Speaker 2>acting was a little bit shit, and so I just

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely was disappointed by it. And I thought I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna love it, and so that's my unsubscribe.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved the acting, but I agree with other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a very very quick oh, you don't vibe yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm gonna be hosting the carols in the Gold

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<v Speaker 2>Coast this weekend. So if you are in the Gold Coast,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in Surface Paradise on Sunday night, Matt and

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<v Speaker 2>I are going to be hosting Carols on the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>It's on like Surface beach. It's gonna be so fun

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<v Speaker 2>for the family. Come down. If you are a Christmas fiend,

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<v Speaker 2>if you like being celebratory, if you like all the

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<v Speaker 2>things that make Christmas as gay and jolly as what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, come down to Carols on the beach because

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to be there. It's free Keisha's they're

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<v Speaker 2>shaking like doing the little money side.

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<v Speaker 3>Why think you've gone? How much money you getting posted?

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<v Speaker 3>No what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be so nice if you're a mum

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<v Speaker 2>or you've got kids, like, it's just the best. Carols

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<v Speaker 2>are so so nice, Bring a picnic, blanket down, come down,

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<v Speaker 2>have some fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I will not be going because I will be on

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<v Speaker 1>a flight overseas. Okay, well it starts at six pm,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't be late.

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<v Speaker 3>So my vibe this.

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<v Speaker 1>Week is an Instagram page. Her name is Anna Underscore

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<v Speaker 1>Louise Underscore at Underscore Home, So Anna Louise at Home,

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<v Speaker 1>but every word has an underscore. Now she's British three

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<v Speaker 1>point seven million followers and her page is the most

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<v Speaker 1>satisfying page I have ever seen. It is cleaning, hacks

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<v Speaker 1>and home interiors. So you know those pages where people

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<v Speaker 1>do before and afters of like I guess, just cleaning

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<v Speaker 1>or hacks for things that you've never even knew existed

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<v Speaker 1>for your house. It's one of these pages that you

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<v Speaker 1>watch and it's so satisfying. I found this page because

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<v Speaker 1>Ben was so scared of spiders that he sent me

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<v Speaker 1>a hack for keeping spiders out right, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really believe it at the times where you spray lavenders

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<v Speaker 1>at doors and windows and spiders can't come in. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was from this woman. He just stumbled across it.

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<v Speaker 1>Her spider hack has got like twelve point five million

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<v Speaker 1>views on this page. But when you go on the page,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so many different things about making your home smell good,

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<v Speaker 1>little renovation hacks, anything you want, and it's so esthetically

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<v Speaker 1>pleasing to look at. So I cannot now. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying I do any of these, but I love watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have an addiction to watching these before and afters

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<v Speaker 1>and declutters and cleaning a stove. I know this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>so bad, but if you ever also tried to clean

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<v Speaker 1>something and you're like, I don't know how to get

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<v Speaker 1>this off.

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<v Speaker 3>She has a hack for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Because no one ever teaches you had to actually clean proper,

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<v Speaker 2>no one teaches you how to.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I do also kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be like the female that's been

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<v Speaker 2>brought up to learn how to keep a house, but

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<v Speaker 2>no one taught me how to do it, Like I've

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<v Speaker 2>just figured it out over time.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it is a skill.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleaning is not just like wiping something down right, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many different products and different ways you

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<v Speaker 1>can mix things to get rid of things or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I just go and do yourself a favor. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you will appreciate this page. Laura, you will

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Keisha, you're a clean freak. You will appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>this page.

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<v Speaker 2>If anyone's got any black spots on their pants and

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<v Speaker 2>wants to know how to remove it.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit of apple, might have vining errands and cut bi

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<v Speaker 3>carb soda. Here's you and always at home can probably

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<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I will say, like a high pressure hose does

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<v Speaker 4>get my juices flowing?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's so satisfying.

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<v Speaker 4>My vibe for this week is a little bit different

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<v Speaker 4>and out of the norm for me. Do you guys

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<v Speaker 4>remember a year ago the former Good Morning America hosts

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<v Speaker 4>Amy Roebuck and TJ. Holmes, they were involved in that

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<v Speaker 4>quote unquote scandalous affair. So they were hosts of the

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<v Speaker 4>show together and then it all came out that they

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<v Speaker 4>were actually in a relationship and it was reported that

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<v Speaker 4>they were having an affair. They have their own podcaster.

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<v Speaker 4>The two in a relationship. A year later, they have

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<v Speaker 4>their own podcast. There's what have we got?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you promoting infidel? Two episodes? Well, this is what

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<v Speaker 3>was interesting. So I kind of kept my.

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<v Speaker 4>Finger on this story for a long time just because

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<v Speaker 4>I found it so different. I was like, Wow, this

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<v Speaker 4>affair has just played out so publicly, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>so interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>They were both suspended from their jobs.

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<v Speaker 4>They have not gone back, and they have been relatively

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<v Speaker 4>quiet throughout the media. We haven't really heard anything from

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<v Speaker 4>them until they released their own podcast, and I felt

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<v Speaker 4>like I listened to fifty minutes of somewhat very interesting

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<v Speaker 4>pr spin. I felt like it was a little bit contrived,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do believe some of the things that they

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<v Speaker 4>were saying in their podcast. They said they started the

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<v Speaker 4>podcast with we lost the jobs we loved for the person.

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<v Speaker 3>That we loved.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, but wait, didn't they lose the jobs

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<v Speaker 2>because they were both married.

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<v Speaker 3>So the thing is is that and they started a podcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>In their podcast, they both were undergoing divorce proceedings, like

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<v Speaker 4>they already had moved out from their spousers, and they

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<v Speaker 4>both rubbish they were having.

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<v Speaker 3>An affair before that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is what I did actually find was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe the fact that they were living in separate homes,

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<v Speaker 4>because there's proof of that, you know, the photos that

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<v Speaker 4>were taken of them were from the apartments that they

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<v Speaker 4>lived in without their spouses, and they kept it very

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<v Speaker 4>quiet because they both had children, and they kind of

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<v Speaker 4>play on this narrative of like, we didn't think we

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<v Speaker 4>were that big of a deal, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how much I believe that you're very

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<v Speaker 4>much a public figure if you were hosting Good Morning America.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing that I was waiting for, and the

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<v Speaker 4>thing I did not get is when they.

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<v Speaker 3>First hooked up.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole podcast episode was like, this wasn't an affair.

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<v Speaker 4>We had both separated from our partners before we got together.

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<v Speaker 4>We had been friends for eight years before this, and

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<v Speaker 4>we were really good friends and then we fell in love.

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<v Speaker 4>But they did not talk about the first time that

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<v Speaker 4>they actually like.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because they cheated that sure. I was thinking that.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, unless the narrative was we never crossed

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<v Speaker 4>the line until this was a thing you would have

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<v Speaker 4>told us about when you first got together.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's coming in a further episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they've just got me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I find this very interesting as well, because it's like

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<v Speaker 2>there is this expectation from our morning TV hosts that

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<v Speaker 2>they're people that we welcome into our homes. They're people

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to be trustworthy, reliable, and people that

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<v Speaker 2>we would want to be friends with. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to have even the whiff of adultery,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not someone who the majority of people would want

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<v Speaker 2>in their homes, you kind of lose all credibility and trust.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it is a pretty harsh reality of

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<v Speaker 2>losing your job off the back of something that you

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<v Speaker 2>do in your personal life. But I also understand when

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<v Speaker 2>your whole entire career and persona within media is based

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<v Speaker 2>on your ability to shop to your job and be truthful,

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<v Speaker 2>it does create this duplicity that can't exist absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think also the brand of a show like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and the brand of the people that they have on

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<v Speaker 4>there is very family oriented totally, and so you have

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<v Speaker 4>this contrast in what is actually going on on screen

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<v Speaker 4>and what is happening behind the scenes. And they say

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<v Speaker 4>a million times in the podcast, we didn't technically break

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<v Speaker 4>any rules at work, blah blah blah, But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>it actually doesn't matter when you work in the public space.

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<v Speaker 3>Perception is everything one hundred percent. I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I just found that this now usually into full gossip

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<v Speaker 4>based kind of things, but this was a particularly interesting one.

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<v Speaker 4>There's many truths to a story, and this is one

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<v Speaker 4>of them, and I wonder how much of it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually truthful in its nature.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let's get into answering all your deep,

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<v Speaker 2>dark and burning questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Question number one.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave birth four weeks ago and my partner last

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<v Speaker 1>night said our sex life is shit and it's affecting

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<v Speaker 1>him mentally.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a Grade three B tear, so can't have

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<v Speaker 1>sex anyway, not that I even want to. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to spend time with me because I

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<v Speaker 1>never want to do it or even give him a blowjob.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't want to, so I won't. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also think I have difficulty with sexual intimacy with him

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<v Speaker 1>because after our last two kids, I felt really pressured

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<v Speaker 1>into having sex again three weeks after birth, which was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I still had stitches after both berths. Where do I

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<v Speaker 1>go from here? I feel like I have no sexual

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<v Speaker 1>drive towards him, but he thinks I have something wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with me.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes me feel so mad. I feel so mad,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hate that the only response to this is

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<v Speaker 2>what an absolute piece of shit your husband is. And

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.439
<v Speaker 2>that's because you have three children with him now, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine how horrible this situation must be

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<v Speaker 2>for you. And look, let's just give this guy the

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<v Speaker 2>men of the doubt. Maybe he's amazing in all other

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<v Speaker 2>aspects of your relationship. Maybe he is, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>considerate and loving partner in every other aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>That ain't considering all love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I would say probably not because if he

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<v Speaker 2>considers and cares about you so little in this time

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<v Speaker 2>when you've just had a baby, especially four weeks after

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<v Speaker 2>having a baby, that he's putting his own sexual gratification

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<v Speaker 2>over your healing, your mental recovery, you having a third baby,

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<v Speaker 2>adjusting to the new life, all of the things, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all the things that go into having a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>and he does too, because he's done it twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's putting his own sexual gratification above all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>then he is a selfish jerk. And there is no

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<v Speaker 2>other word for it. And I know that you say

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<v Speaker 2>that in the past, that you felt pressured to so

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<v Speaker 2>you did it. That's Firstly, it's disgusting and I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>sorry that you felt as though you needed to make

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<v Speaker 2>him happy at a time when you are supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be the priority and it is okay for you to

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 2>be the priority.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah.

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Man, it's such a reflection of the type of person

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>he is and of what he thinks.

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Is important, and that is himself. He's a pig. He's

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 3>a pig. He's a pig.

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>And just medically speaking, so you understand a three B

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 1>tear which she has, you can't even do anal so

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>not is it just that sex is uncomfortable, like it

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>is a proper tear that is affecting both ends the

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 1>fact that he is also manipulating you and gaslighting you

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>into thinking that something is wrong with you.

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, something is wrong with me.

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm torn open. I just gave birth, I have two

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 1>other kids. Three weeks ago, twenty one days ago. I

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>was torn open, went through my body, went through something traumatic.

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's what's wrong with me.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, this is a question that comes

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<v Speaker 2>up a bit and for a lot of women, there

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 2>is this feeling of responsibility to keep their partner happy. Right,

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>There's this feeling of like, well, I know it's disgusting,

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 2>but it happens, and it would be remissive us not

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. There is this feeling of like

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm letting my partner down because I don't feel like

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I can be intimate with them at the moment. Sometimes

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 2>because you physically can't be. At the four week mark,

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.439
<v Speaker 2>you're not supposed to have sex until six weeks. Certainly,

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 2>if you've had an episiotomy or a severe tear, you

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be having sex until. You know, for some people

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>it's much longer than that. For some people's months and

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>months and months, And that's okay. It doesn't mean that

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>you don't have any intimacy with your partner necessarily.

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 3>But this idea of like.

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Giving them a blowjob, like it's your job that you

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>need to give them a blowjob, it makes me feel

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>so like viscerally fucking angry, because of course you don't

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 2>want to. Of course you don't want to do anything.

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Of Course you probably don't even want to cut a

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 2>little touch your husband like those All of those feelings

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:52.239
<v Speaker 2>are okay, And that's not to say that they're not

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>going to feel some sense of rejection if there's no

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 2>intimacy at all, But the fact that he places the

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>priority of intimacy around him being relieved as in physically ejaculating,

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>as in having someone given a blowjob, or being able

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.959
<v Speaker 2>to have sex is just truly, truly revolting. But like,

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know many new moms who are in the

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>headspace to psych themselves up to be able to give

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>their partners a blowjob, like I.

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Certainly couldn't a mom thing just to psych yourself up.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>As a non mum, everyone likes blowjobs, no.

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>But as a mom, there's so much pressure to do

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>everything and to beat everything to everyone. And you are

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 2>so touched out, You were so tired, you were so

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>psychologically spent. Also, you're dealing with this like new identity.

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 2>You have two other children that you also have to

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 2>cater to and keep alive. The last thing you need

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>to do is be responsible for sucking your husband. And

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry that you were in a situation where

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>he is making you feel like you were the problem,

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>because he is the problem. Well.

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Also, nothing makes you want to do something less than

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>when you're being forced to do being told you don't

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>want to do, like like that is not what's going

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to make you be like, oh my god, you know what,

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I do want to give you a blow job because

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:01.959
<v Speaker 1>you put your dick in my face, and yeah, like

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't help the situation. It's going to push you

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>further and further away and cause a bigger and bigger divide.

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Because there's nothing around like, I mean this idea of saying, oh,

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>our sex life is shit. I'm not getting what I

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>want out of this, which, of course he's not like,

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 2>that's not even the consideration at this moment, but it's

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like there's no intimacy there from him. There's no like

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>making you feel special. There's no carrying the load or

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>doing all the things to make you feel desired and loved.

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, maybe you don't even want to

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>feel desired or loved at this moment. I fucking wouldn't either.

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 2>You're four weeks out. This would be a very different

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>conversation if it was like you were at the ten

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>month mark and you still didn't want to have sex

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>with your husband and he was like, look, I feel

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>like our sex life has dwindled. Can we have some

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>conversations around this? Because this is important to me, but

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>it's the language around it it's the forcefulness of it,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>it's the expectation of it, it's the duty of it.

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>It's all of these things which are so deeply steeped

0:30:55.320 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 2>in misogyny and are so fundamentally wrong. And I think now,

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've established that it's fucked, and I'm sure

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 2>everyone listening to this feels just as angry as we do.

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>But what do you do? That's the big question?

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, You've got a four week old baby, you have

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>two other children, and you're married to a man who

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 2>treats you like this.

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 3>What do you do?

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>How do you have these conversations with him? Do you

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 2>go and speak to a couple's therapist? Do you speak

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>to him openly around his treatment of you, his expectation

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>of women? Like, how do you navigate this next phase?

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Because you're putting boundaries in place, and you're saying that

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.719
<v Speaker 2>with the last two kids, you did just concede and

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>you did things that you didn't want to do, and

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>you satisfied him in a way that you're not prepared

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 2>to this time. And it's like, how do you make

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>sure that you maintain those boundaries and that you get

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>the respect from your husband that you deserve?

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Show him a picture, pull him up a graphic picture

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>of what the tear looks like in your vagina to

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>your anus, and say this is what is going on

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>right now, Like this isn't I didn't just push a

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>baby out And I'm like, oh, I'm a little bit sore.

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Like show him showing what's going to happen, and then

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>say do you understand? And if he still does not

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>care and he's like, well I still want to fuck,

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>then like you have bigger, deeper problems you need to

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>work through. But I think, first and foremost, make sure

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>you know before you take action that he has this

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>complete understanding. I mean, I feel like we're dumbing it

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>down for him, which I'm not saying we should do,

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>but just in case benefit of the doubt he doesn't

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>understand what is going on downstairs, like if he just

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>knows as a three B who knows what that means?

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>As I said, this is really really dumbing it down

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>for him. But you're not going to exactly pack up

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>your kids and leave. Yeah, totally, that's the thing so hard.

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>But I agree with you, But I also disagree with you, Britt,

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>because I think it shouldn't have to come to you showing,

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, physical evidence of the reason why you're not

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>prepared to have sex at the four week mark. Even

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>if you had had the most streamline quote unquote easy birth,

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe you cough that baby out too pushes and it

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was done, there should still not be an expectation on

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you to have sex or sexually satisfy your husband. That

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>should be so far down the priority list for him

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>at that point in time.

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 3>And the fact that but it's not, yeah, and the

0:32:59.000 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 3>fact that.

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 2>He can't deprioritize his own needs and put you at

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the center at a time when you are supposed to

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>be the center of this is so deeply fucking selfish

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's so gross. I hate that you're in a

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 2>situation where you have to use a physical.

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Ailment i e.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 2>A tear as the excuse for not wanting to have

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>sex when they could be psychological. There could be so

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>many other reasons after having a baby that you don't

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.719
<v Speaker 2>want to have sex as well. You know, going back

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 2>to something that we said at the very beginning, a

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 2>person who deeply lacks care for you in this way

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 2>can't possibly be great in every other aspect of the relationship.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Like this is not something that lives in a silo,

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, like he's not behaving like this, but has

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>always been a supportive, empathetic, caring, nurturing husband and father.

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 2>So I would say, obviously, this is a big, screaming

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>red flag, But look at the other red flags. What

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>are the other things and the other behaviors that he's

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 2>doing that are problematic, that are modeling a relationship that

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>you may not want to be in or that you

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>may not want to be reflected in a parental figure

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 2>for your children. And I'm not saying that you need

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 2>to walk out of your relationship. I'm not saying that

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 2>you need to just break up with him and go.

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 2>But this, to me would be the start of some

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>very very big conversations around with myself and potentially with

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>my husband when it got to that point, around whether

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I would want to be in a relationship with someone

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 2>who had such a disrespect for me.

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Of course, but then this, and this is why I say,

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>let's not get ahead of ourselves. She's just had a baby,

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>she's got two other kids with him. We need to

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>take this back to basics, and that is first and foremost,

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>make sure he understands the why before you go into

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to leave you, and let's like line

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>up all our red flags, like this is a situation

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that you need to deal with immediately because it is

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>an immediate situation. It's happening to you right now, and

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to go away anytime soon because you

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>might not get that sex drive back for a long

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>time physically, but mentally, that's not coming back while he's

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>acting like this, and he needs to understand that. So

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>break it down with him and make sure there is

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>an understanding. And then, as I always say, his response,

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:01.280
<v Speaker 1>once you know you have explained it in every single

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>way possible, his response to that is the telltale sign

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of what will happen next.

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Question number two is a bit of a lighter one.

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 2>My friends and I were out on Saturday night for

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>some fun. Drinks and dancing were involved. We normally buy

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 2>rounds of drinks for each other instead of purchasing individually,

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 2>So when it was my next turn, I started to

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 2>friendly chat and flirt with a really hot guy who

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 2>was in line, and he offered to buy me a drink.

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I said, I appreciated it, but I had to.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Buy a round for all my friends, And he said no, no, no,

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>don't worry, I'll get it for your friends as well.

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 2>So not only did he buy one round, he also

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 2>bought shots for all of my friends too.

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 3>So that was it.

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 2>We went on and started dancing, and a little while

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 2>later it was time for another round of drinks. We

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 2>all went up to the bar and my friend said, well,

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>it's your round again. She goes on to say that

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 2>she argued with her a little bit because not only

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>did she get one round of drinks, but she got

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 2>two rounds of drinks for her friends, even though there

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 2>was nothing monetary that was exchanged there.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Now, they had a.

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Bit of a joke about it, but basically what happened

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>is that she ended up paying for the round of

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 2>a drinks. But she hates that she's been made to

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 2>feel like she's the tight ass in that situation when

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 2>really she feels like she has done her job. And

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 2>so it caused a bit of a debate in their

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>friendship group. And the question is, if you have scored

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a round of drinks for your friend, are you then

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 2>responsible for buying the next round?

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:12.839
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 3>I agree, fucking yes, you still have to buy the

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 3>next round.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Like, well done, you got a bonus round, but you

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>still didn't pay for it.

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Like, get as many bonus rounds.

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.240
<v Speaker 1>As you want to, you still have to put your

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>monetary round down one hundred percent.

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Like unless you went up and you were like, Okay,

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do the groundwork. I want to make

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.879
<v Speaker 2>out with this guy. You know, this is my thing.

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to invest time. Well, here it is, you're

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 2>selling your body. I'm fine with that. Okay, if you're

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 2>going to invest your time into this person so that

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 2>he's then paying for your drinks also not a nice

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 2>thing to do. But like if you did that, I'd

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 2>be like cool, you just stood at a bar and

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>like chatted to someone and he bought some drinks for you.

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Like that doesn't negate your round. That's a very minimal

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 2>effort for rounds.

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 3>It's one hundred percent of bonus round. This is the

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 3>easiest question I've ever had. You've been a titus.

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I get why you're stoked, and it's bragging rights. Yes,

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>high fives all round. Like you did well, Like you're

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>done good. You went out into the wild, you hunted

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and gathered, and you gathered the drinks and you brought

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>them back to your tribe. And then they you know,

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>well done, but you still need to put the money

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>down for the next round.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 3>I totally agree. Okay, okay, we've literally never had an

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 3>easier question. Yeah, the toilet paper one.

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that was easy.

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Also, like you never want to be Yeah, the toilet

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>paper one was very easy. You never want to be

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 2>seen as being the titles. And if it means like

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 2>if you haven't spent any money at all, and the

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 2>thing that's making you look like a Titus is the

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 2>fact that you've not financially contributed and everyone else has,

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>that's a you problem, not of them problem.

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I would have said, if you can go out and

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>get us a round of drinks for free, I will

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>buy the next round, and then you get two bonus rounds.

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or maybe it's something that you have to kind

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 2>of specify this is okay, I've got one more thing.

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I know we've said this was easy, but I'm unpacking

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>it now. If you had said when it was your round, guys,

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 2>if I can get someone to buy this round of

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>drinks for us for free, that's my round done, because

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>then it doesn't seem like it was just opportunistic. The

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>thing is you didn't go there expecting that this guy

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>was going to pay for your drinks. You went there,

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 2>he offered, and it was an opportunistic purchase.

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, That's what happened. And so you tried to

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 3>claim of engagement.

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got to have that conversation first. You get

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to say, I'm going I'm gonna hunt, I'm going to

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 2>gather and I'm going to get us some drinks for free.

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm not going to pay for the next one. Yeah,

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to brag abut to thrust of my

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>life perfect?

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay? Question number three.

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<v Speaker 1>I have another silly, lighthearted one, but I think it

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>affects a lot of people. I'm single, and whenever I

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>go away with my friends and family, I always get

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I always get the trundle bed or.

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 3>Or the couch. Been there. All the couples get the

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 3>double beds.

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Even if I go away with my girlfriends, they refuse

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>to sleep on the air mattress on the floor.

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 3>It's just like it's a default.

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm a single person, should it be okay for

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>me to ask to pay less for the accommodation or

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 1>another tit ask question? Because no, I don't think this

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>is tight as no, no, But it pertains to whether you're

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>being a tit ask. Should it be okay for me

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to ask to pay less for the accommodation because I

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>get the shit bed on the floor when everyone else

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 1>gets a proper comfy bed.

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have I know you have feelings about this

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 2>brick because for so long, being the single one, you

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 2>would be.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Relegated to the fold out here it is, Dude, I've

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 3>had everything. I get the dog kennel. If I'm the

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 3>single person we're away, I'm getting all the shit, all right.

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I think if you are traveling with just your girlfriends

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 2>and you have been relegated to the shittest bed in

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 2>the house and it's like doesn't even have a room

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's on the floor and you're just traveling with

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 2>your girlfriends and their partners are not there, then yeah.

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Fuck that pay less Like that's ridiculous.

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Papers is a rocket, Like you all need papers as

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>a rock, and whoever wins fair and square for the

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>bed on the floor gets the bed on the floor.

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Totally.

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>But the fact that that seems to be the expectation

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 2>in your friendship group just because you're single, I think

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that that more. I don't actually think that has anything

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 2>to do with you being single. I think that has

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>to do with you being more agreeable, and they're just like, oh,

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 2>she's always fine with it, so we'll let her have it.

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that you just need to speak up for

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>yourself in those situations.

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 1>I've been this person my entire life, like with my

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>family and my friends, I'm always I've always been a

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 1>single person, which is fine, and ninety percent of the

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>time I don't care.

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 3>It's fine. But I remember I cracked it one year.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not even that it's the ship bed, but it's

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the ship room, the shit everything, And I get why

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like you have to sleep in the lounge room

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 1>because you're on your own. Maybe it's just the expectation

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.879
<v Speaker 1>around the fact that, like there's no consideration and there's

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>never even a conversation about, oh, maybe she doesn't want

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>to sleep in the kennel tonight, maybe we should bring

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>her inside. So I think it's the idea of being like, Okay,

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe we should paper.

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 3>This is a rocker bed.

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know, we all get double beds. We're all here,

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it's one night, whatever it is. I remember one prime

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 1>example of I had to go away with my family.

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 1>But we were sharing a room, Sherry Jay and myself.

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>We were sharing a room and this is so this

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>is actually so dumb. But there was one big, normal

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>bed double bed. Then there was another blow up double

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>bed that was at their foot of the bed. It

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>was almost like kids that were sleeping away with their parents.

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>And it was just like automatic that I was going

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to sleep on the blow up And I just remember saying,

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I want a real bed for?

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Once we're in the same room we're all sharing, you

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>can have the blow up double bed because for the

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>last ten years straight, I've been the one that's like

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 1>on the floor everywhere. And they were like, fair play,

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>take the double bed, We'll take the shitty bed at

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the end.

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 3>And that was it. And I only needed that one.

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 3>I only needed to be seen just one.

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think the friend one, in all seriousness, the

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 1>friend one is easy. Like you guys just need to

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>be doing a paper is a rock, draw a name

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>out of a hat.

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:31.760
<v Speaker 3>If there's one shit.

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Situation and you've all paid the same amount of money,

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>just draw a name out of a hat. Just don't

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:36.479
<v Speaker 1>let them walk away you next time?

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I agree with you, Britta, and I

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>think that this comes down more to the feeling that

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 2>you have that you're not as relevant, you're not as

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>like valued, that you're just going to be expected to

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 2>take the shit option, because it does happen. Whenever you

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 2>go and stay in an airbnb. There's always that shit

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 2>room that has bunk beds in it, or like some

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 2>sort of like crappy little room that feels like a cupboard.

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 2>And when you're the single person that's allocated to you.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that I think is important to keep

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 2>perspective on is that normally, maybe it's different if you're

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 2>traveling with your family, but normally if you're traveling with

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 2>your friends. They break down the cost of an Airbnb

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 2>or of a group holiday per person, right, so if

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 2>you're each paying two hundred dollars per person. But the

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 2>thing is is so just say, like in your instance,

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 2>for it, there's two rooms, one is infinitely better than

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 2>the other. One room someone is getting for two hundred

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:27.879
<v Speaker 2>dollars and the other room two people are paying four

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars for. So you would expect that as a couple,

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 2>if you're paying four hundred dollars between you to stay

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 2>in one room that that room would be better than

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the one that the single person has, And I think

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 2>that that just comes down to, like the equation of maths,

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 2>the value for money. Unfortunately, when there's two of you,

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you've got more money to put into.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 3>A group holiday.

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>That's how I feel about it, and I'm also I

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 2>don't want to stay in the room that doesn't have

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 2>the nice bed in.

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It selfish no one does question three. The other day,

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>my partner of nearly eight years and I were discussing fantasies.

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I brought it up because you know, you want to

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>keep the spark and keep things a little interesting. I

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 1>told him I'd always had the fantasy of having sex

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>in public, and he told me that he had always

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to have a threesome. I know it's pretty common

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>fantasy for guys, but I'm feeling a bit rocked by this.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm only sexually attracted to men, so I don't really

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>find the idea of having sex with another woman appealing.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to completely shut him down, especially because

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I was the one that brought up the idea of

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>fantasies in the first place. I don't really know what

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to do from here. Have you got any advice? Is

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>there a middle ground? Yes, there's a middle ground. Have

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a threesome with two men? Fine, see how he deals

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>with that. Fantasies are just that it's okay to talk

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>about them. You don't have to act on them.

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Like if his fantasy sits outside one that you're comfortable with,

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>then the conversation that you have is like okay, like

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe we can watch threesome porn, or maybe we can

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess there's other things.

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's many other things you can do

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 2>except from actually have the threesome. But you can acknowledge

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>that that's a fantasy for him, but it's something that

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to do, especially if you have zero

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:02.760
<v Speaker 2>sexual desire, zero interest yourself in bringing a third party

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>into your relationship. Which is can we just and I know,

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>we want to normalize all the different things that people

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 2>do in relationships. It is and will and could change

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.840
<v Speaker 2>your relationship to having a reasm it can have.

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:17.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had a big reasonable question.

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 2>As much as we want to be sexually liberal and

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 2>say like you can do whatever you want, you can

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.839
<v Speaker 2>experience whatever it is that you want to experience. If

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.760
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to, you don't have to. And there's

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be a big difference between having sex in

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.399
<v Speaker 2>public and fucking someone else in your relationship. I would

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 2>say they're very different fantasies some of them, and one

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>of them is much more complicated than the other unless

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you get arrested. So like that is definitely a consideration.

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:45.839
<v Speaker 2>And I guess it's great that he voiced it to you.

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 2>It's great that he made it known. You don't have

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>to act on it, and that's okay.

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing is, I mean, the thing that

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>stands out for me is you say, I don't want

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to shut it down because I brought up the idea

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of talking about our fantasies. Because you bring up a

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation doesn't mean you have to do it. Just you said,

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about a fantasies.

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 3>FU. Yeah, a threesome, Like it doesn't work like that.

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the idea of talking about fantasies is enough to

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>bring spark in because just the thought of it and

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the discussion of what it would be is the excitement

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 1>that you need. But you do not to be clear,

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you do not need to go and have a threesome,

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:23.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, because you brought up the conversation of fantasy.

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 2>And you're not shouting it to Like, you could talk

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 2>about going to Europe, doesn't mean you have to go

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>to Europe, do you know? I mean you could talk

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 2>about one of men jumping whatever. Yeah, No, I'm not

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 2>like important, I brought it up. No, I agree with you.

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I think threesomes it's a very common fantasy that a

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 2>lot of people have. Does that mean that most people

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<v Speaker 2>are okay with having them in their relationship? No, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say that there are lots of people who are

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<v Speaker 2>explorative and experimental and like are quite happy to try,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe you have had one in their life.

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<v Speaker 3>I would not say.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just completely me blanket statement and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not based on anything other than my feelings. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it would be that common for people who are

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<v Speaker 2>in long term relationships to go and have threesomes. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that is a rarity, and that's why we

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<v Speaker 2>like to talk about it, because it is a fantasy,

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<v Speaker 2>because it is naughty, because it isn't common. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's okay that he's said it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay that he's spoken about it with you and

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<v Speaker 2>been honest enough. I don't think it has to breed

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<v Speaker 2>an insecurity in you that he wants to run away

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<v Speaker 2>and do it. The thing is he's always thought about

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<v Speaker 2>It's always been a fantasy. It's been there for the

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<v Speaker 2>last eight years. He hasn't acted on it, and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to now. But I guess it does raise

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<v Speaker 2>some questions, though, doesn't it? Bret Like if Matt said

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<v Speaker 2>to me that he had a fantasy, and because I

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<v Speaker 2>brought the brought it up to him and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to spice our relationship up, and then he said that

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<v Speaker 2>he'd had this fantasy he'd never acted on, there would

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of me that would want to please him.

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<v Speaker 2>They would be a part of me that would want

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<v Speaker 2>to do the thing that he wanted, even if it

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<v Speaker 2>made me feel a little bit uncomfortable, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to begrudge him of something.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I couldn't be further from the truth. But I

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<v Speaker 1>never get mean a threesome with another woman neither.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not care what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my thing and I'm not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it because someone else wants me to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that's what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like, even though there would be a little part

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<v Speaker 2>of me that would want to asking me jokes, even

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<v Speaker 2>though that would be weird that you didn't see me

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<v Speaker 2>stop asking, Like it was very quiet in the corner there,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's been me and Matt who are like Bretney

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<v Speaker 2>knock on the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm going to have that threesome that we've always

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<v Speaker 1>stop asking me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not coming over, okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what I'm saying is I empathize with your want

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<v Speaker 2>and that's because you care about your partner's sexual desires

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<v Speaker 2>and needs.

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<v Speaker 3>But do you owe that to him? No? Please don't

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<v Speaker 3>go and have a threesome against your will.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it'll also if you're not fully into it and

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<v Speaker 2>fully subscribe to it, it'll fuck your relationship, hondy because

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<v Speaker 2>it will make you insecure handy.

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